/christian/ - christian

I am praying for a persistent borrower to remove theirself from my "house," so to speak, lest I grow weary of them, and so hate them. Also because they're the kind of borrower who repeatedly swears falsely about how many more times they will borrow, changes how much money they owe, changes when they will repay, and changes how much they will repay. All the while reciting fantastical, and convienent, sob stories about why they need to borrow, that I believe are lies. But supposing they are true, they still sound like they're coming from someone who is trying to get into trouble.

>>27922
Whelp, so far it looks like my prayers have been answered. And the debtor has probably removed theirself from my presence. But if they did, then I am almost 100% certain they did it by ripping me off, and fleeing town with the debt. Because they have failed to even show up at the three appointed times they promised to me would be for starting repayment. But that's okay. I had a hunch something like this would happen for the past few weeks. I feel the hunch was virtually confirmed, when the debtor uncharacteristically flinched their eye, after I repeated to them the day of the week for repayment. And yet I loaned anyway.

Now I pray for my hunch to truly be the case. For the peace of mind in knowing the debtor is finally sticking to the value they have chosen, and will not vex me with more flip flopping games. And for the general peace of mind in knowing a cantankerous, career petty thief, and swindler, is out of my life. And so I can return to freewill giving, and stop this confusing giving that feels half freewill, half compulsory. And so "And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors." has a literal meaning for me. And so I can say I have not only passed being rewarded evil for good, but also that the burden is light.

But as for the debtor, if they have ripped me off, then I hope they do not spend that money all in one place. Because they flattered me with "You're the only person in the

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>>27549
>I pray to God for me to be not afraid of sudden fear, neither of the desolation of the wicked, when it cometh.
Today I have heard an answer to this. Thank the Lord. And the answer is so what if I am afraid of such a thing? The people I am talking about are so hopelessly addicted to their misery, and excess, and great wastefulness, that they're basically dead already. And they have been dead for a long time. And there is a non zero chance that they were never really alive to begin with. Because of how they have fallen so far, that they willfully allow "The Empire's" ideas into what ought to be their own personal oasis away from The Empire, literally 24/7 via television and social media. So that they never rest from The Empire.
Moreover if there was only one object I could use to summarize their outlook on life, it would be a magnet on their refridgerator that is similar to this post's picture. I am keen to notice the proverb doesn't say anything about asking the child's permission for the loan. It doesn't say anything about repaying the loan either.

Existence is giving me a headache today.

I ask for a prayer too truly feel like im actually trying for God to turn my life around and better myself

>>28105
Praying for you 🙏

Happy Easter, coward. I'm still here and you're still a niggerfaggot.

>>28091 (OP) 
<Fake Christians
You mean like yourself? Hast thou never said 1 John 4:1-2?
>BELOVED, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 
>Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
Or read romans 2:27-28?
<My post
<>>>/k/15540
Matthew 24:6
>And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
<the subject of TPTB
<These lies will all end & the truth will out.
If that's a person, do they recognize the existence of Jeremiah 27:21-22? If its tucker carlson know that he is a idol that never existed and acts as a mouthpeice for 2 thessalonians 2:7 and daniel 8:12
<NO GOVERNMENT is beyond attempting to usurp God
You clearly lack understandonf of romans 13 and what a government is.

What is TPTB?

>>26036
I'd say there are a few things we should separate. One is engaging on homosexual activity. That's wrong and disordered and, thankfully, I doubt I have to convince anyone here about that. We all know it's a heinous sin. Even in cultures like Ancient Greece, marriage was always between a man and a woman, homosexual relationships were more like a past time, always between people with a huge age gap and didn't involve anal penetration, which was seen as unnatural.

Now, people may also have homosexual temptations. That's no different from many other sexual temptations. You must not lust after a woman, you must not see her as a way to placate your desires; straight people also deal with a lot of sexual temptation. Straight people can also feel attracted to people they shouldn't date: maybe they're already in a relationship, or there's an age difference, or you've had the bad luck to fall in love with your cousin. Feelings can play all sort of nasty tricks on you, what matters is that you recognize what's right and what isn't and follow that instead of your feelings, no matter how intense they are.

There's a third thing, and it's what is sometimes called "homosexual affection". I may be nicer to a girl cause she's cute and I find her pleasant, even though I'm not planing to date her, and I can do so without lusting after her. She's just nice to be around and I'm just being kind. Some people have an easier

Also, I'd love to hear testimony from people who are homosexual and practicing Christians (that is, they live chastely). If anyone could share their experience or knows of some good interviews, it'd be lovely. It's a topic that comes up a lot and people do have genuine sometimes honest questions about it, and not just the usual "but I like wrong why it has to be bad".

>>26053
If they're "chaste homosexuals", they're just chaste and confused, but at least they're not sinning. Ask God to show you the truth.
Matthew 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."

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>>26052
>"But I can't choose what I'm attracted to!". Precisely, all the more reason to not let it define you.
100% truth, anon. That's the problem with hypersexuality, people who suffer it often let it define them. Ever noticed how people addicted to hentai are always freaking out about how much they like l*lis? Furries make their whole personality revolve around being an anthropomorphic animal, etc

Best thread on this board

Porn sucks and I hate being a degenerate. I _hate_ myself. I started watching it when I was 11 and I'm nearly 30 now. If I could get rid of one vice forever it'd be porn. Lord help me.

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>>27307
I just turned 30 and I stopped because I got really angry about the state of the world and my life and how Satan is ruining everything for everyone and wasting my time and energy with nonsense so that I'm not in a position to oppose him, and also because it just feels wrong when the women being trafficked by pornographers are 10 years younger than you now. It's like there was a decade where the world could have been improved and these vices should have retreated but instead because we fooled ourselves into thinking that the devil doesn't exist evil has only spread further and increased its grip on our society. I went and ran 10k every day for a week straight and I doubled my productivity at work and I had a long talk with my pastor about getting more involved in church. I have a feeling that there is a big wave of conversions and reversions of those who've fallen out of the faith coming and like in Matthew 9:37 the harvest is plentiful but the workers are few, and the Lord will be sending us out to the world to witness soon in these last days. I don't even know why I used to want porn or masturbation so badly now, it's just sad and it was a crutch to fill in holes in my life where I felt badly about myself, and even when I was doing well secularly before my conversion it was something that I kept turning to even though it brought no actual value to my life. I was also worried in the past rounds when

>>24520
Hey anons, I'm this guy. Anyway, Ive relapsed pretty terribly after abstaining from all pornography for close to to five or six months (?) I mean I wouldn't say it was completely cold turkey, but rather I slowly over the months got rid of the most disgusting fetishes until I completely cut porn out entirely, and I was working on slowly phasing out masturbation completely. The depression I was feeling slowly went away, but something really upsetting happened, and the depression immediately came back, I wasn't sleeping well, and yesterday completely out of nowhere I relapsed with the most embarrassing disgusting animated stuff for hours until I felt literally sick. Until really early in the morning, something I hadn't done for close to 6 months. It's like all the effort I built up over months just fell apart completely. I was already a bit ashamed I couldn't just outright stop, but I legitimately was changing, and now none of it feels real. 

I've had to come to terms very quickly that whatever is in me that makes me do this isn't going away, and I'm not sure what that says about me. At any point it can sneak up during a weak moment and overtake me completely, and that horrifies me. I'm not really sure what to do now, I was hoping God gave me the grace to take it out of me slowly, that's what it felt like, but now I don't know why I was built like this. I certainly don't blame God for anything, but 

>>28086
>At any point it can sneak up during a weak moment and overtake me completely, and that horrifies me.
True. But understand that the Gospel isn't something you just accept once and then move on. You live it. You preach it to yourself every day: "I've failed, I can't do it on my own no matter how hard I try... but thank God that He loves me enough that He sent his only son to live and die for me... to accomplish, on my behalf, what I could never do: live a life of perfect righteousness and obedience to God."

>I've had to come to terms very quickly that whatever is in me that makes me do this isn't going away, and I'm not sure what that says about me.
I hope you don't mind me copy+pasting what I posted for another anon, but it's dealing with this same recurring issue:
>In Romans, the Apostle Paul writes that he felt the same way you do:
>"We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I

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Hi,i honestly been struggling with dirty stuff loke hentai and stuff recently while trying not to look at it anymore and go clean after a few christain channels and up too this year in the mid-late 2020's i got baptized,telling God id cut off mastubating but i occasionally relapsed once in december of last year on christmas eve where i beated off and felt bad and prayed for forgiveness the others between in in the current year of 2026 i edged a bit too control myself but end up blowing my load like today i was on polybuzz and chatted this one bot of a wide hipped rabbit character and had two scenarios (both essentially had me banging him w/o his consent) the second one being more explicit by phrases like "stress relief" as the bot acted out him struggling to get free as i played with myself a little but tried to pinch the head too stop myself from blowing my load but that ended in disaster and now i hate myself for technically relapising again along hating how i still enjoy it...i want to quit but feel like I'm not saved truly and wasted my baptism as i keep falling in my habitual sin and hate i still enjoy. (Pic below as reference l)

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Are you still going to church, /christian/?

>>27916
I like going to Mass during the week, it's quieter than on Sundays.

Bethel Redding is live currently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4yawoEd4gA

Happy Easter

>>28092
happy easter anon

>>23737
Why is it called a Pentateuch if it's a complete Old Testament?

>>23737
finna whip this bad boy out and start quoting from it any time i get in an argument about religion.

>>23738
The original article I found about it seemed to be confused between two manuscripts, Sassoon 507 is the Damascus Pentateuch but the one being auctioned is actually Sassoon 1053. It also seems that someone took photos of it before it was privately bought:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tanakh-MS-Sassoon-1053
https://archive.org/details/Sassoon_1053_Tanakh

Wasn't sure where to post this. This is a 6-hour Greek Bible study but actually covers a lot of deep material. It has an interdenominational group, with a Jewish guy, a Catholic priest, an Orthodox priest (Fr. Stephen De Young), a Calvinist, a Coptic Christian, and a few other Orthodox Christians. This 6-hour video is just the first meeting, and I am only 4 hours in, but I think it will address for sure some of the questions that OP asks as well bringing to light many questions during the 2nd Temple and elsewhere. It was from this video that I learned about Islamic mythicism and that Islam may really just be a heretical Christian with Muhammed being just a made-up character. They have continued on with a few more meetings. Not sure if they are completely done. But this is really good stuff. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSjatPfFKlI

Are any of you familiar with the translation work of Mauro Biglino?
He's an advocate of translating what can be translated and leaving what can't be translated as it is but with annotations.

One example of things he takes issue with is the translation of words such as elohim, el, elyon as simply god.
This perspective paints a very different picture to what I originally believed of the bible, it provokes serious questions and curiously brings it into closer alignment to depictions of similar beings by other ancient theologies such as the greeks or nords.

>>28081 (OP) 
>sometimes think in if im really saved as i still under my bad habits
Take heart. Cleaning up your life does not save you. You are saved by what Jesus has done for you. That is why the gospel is such good news. God has done for us what we could not do ourselves.

In Romans, the Apostle Paul writes that he felt the same way you do:
"We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? Thanks be to 

>>28083
Thx for the advice and admittedly most of em was a bad attempt to edge and stopping too soon up too and fully ejactualte not helped as even as i try to avoid stuff that'll have me relapse i end upjust looking at it either nudes,lewd rp's and such ending up in falling back ingo my sin.
which I'd be disappointed/mad at myself for said relapses and by guilt admit to God in what in my relapses still feels good/looks hot hence why I think im not s/a fraud follower

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The whole radiation emission theory for the shroud might actually be even more credible now. Not saying this study is directly related, but light emission from the body forms the foundation of the theory.
https://www.sciencealert.com/we-emit-a-visible-light-that-vanishes-when-we-die-says-surprising-new-study

What do you say to people who say that Christ’s body was wrapped in multiple linen strips and therefore the shroud is not legit?

Were there multiple strips around this main one?

Assuming that you're actually talking about "Christian pictures" and you're not looking for help hiding another sort of picture with the same abbreviation that will land you in jail, just use Veracrypt.

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>>27987
>We don't need more useless voices drowning out the truth of Christ

Following the 1:9:90 principle, advertising would lead to significantly more viewers than users, and board culture could still be used to gatekeep idiots who want to be in the 1:9 crew that have stupid things to say. 

>Through reading our works, rhetorical and actual, and the intense debate that can only come from minds focused on Christ, that is the only way to reinvigorate this modern generation of gelded, feminized losers being lost to the lies of their time. 

My point is who's reading you? Old 8chan was a top 5000 ranked site. zzz, great as it may be, is rather in the top 300k in the US, and in the top 800k worldwide. 

You're not exposing people to the theology that you're discussing. 

 
>What's the difference between your propositions and just resigning oneself to plebbit/r/christianity with all the other losers?

plebbit uses vote based algorithms to drive content to the top that appeals to the masses (the "90" from above), rather than bump-order based sortition that lets the most discussed (rather than mass-appealing) topics rise. Because of this, plebbit intrinsically appeals to idiots, because it gives a low effort voice (voting) to the masses. 

>>27988
I'll bite

>Following the 1:9:90 principle...
>My point is who's reading you?...
The growth will come with time. ZZZ, as small as it is, currently is the most widely used altchan on the webring, and I think its second only to the sharty in terms of all altchans. Just like with the plebbit/cuckchan migration to 8chan, it will happen in waves, but the main draw was good moderation and insightful, honest discussion as to the zeitgeist they allowed. Cuckchan caught on to how gay their were being with the 15 minute post cooldowns, but between the 2 minute cooldowns and increasingly homosexual moderation, it's a matter of time before we see regular triple and quad digit uids here.

>You're not exposing people to the theology that you're discussing. 
You're grasping at straws, I regularly post on topics that catch my interest. What probably happened, is that the more lukewarm /christian/ posters from 8chan got cold feet and returned to normie tier denomination echo chambers via message boards and plebbit. We are obviously closer to zealots than you even want to admit.

>plebbit uses...
You naivete shows. Plebbit, like most of clearnet, is a perpetual jewish consensus cracking/manufactured consent psyop where ideas they don't like are suppressed and astro-turfed ideas are pushed forward to prevent resistance to their goals. Its why one can find hardcore porn there, but guns and national socialism are "le bad."

>What drew people to the old site was the gg related exodus...
Yes, to a point. One of the largest migrations was due to gg, but prior to gg, cuckchan and plebbit were already experiencing a wave of censorship surrounding "punching down" comedy, guns, "political incorrectness" and extreme dissatisfaction with democratic systems of the west. This was leading to a resurgence of Monarchism and national socialism as diametric to current social ills. Think about how many memes one saw of "medieval serfs lived better lives that you do" and quotes of past European regents and saints explain how they dealt with the problems of their day. 

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>>27989
>but prior to gg, cuckchan and plebbit were already experiencing a wave of censorship surrounding "punching down" comedy, guns, "political incorrectness" and extreme dissatisfaction with democratic systems of the west. 

It doesn't matter what social movements they were experiencing, old 8ch got new members because shilling on 4ch during that time period lead people to it. 

The site was exposed to a high CPM environment and gained membership by spam-advertisement. The social dynamics on the site accelerated this, but 8ch was still pissing spam into a high CPM site and leeching members basically the same way other sites currently do so through leigitmate advertising. 

>You naivete shows. 

You didn't really give a technical response to what I said and just basically said "it's all a jewish psyop". You don't demonstrate how, though, so I don't really follow. Yes, those places are trash and psyops, but I think there's solutions to that. Plebbit is engineered to be a psyop. But imageboards as a systematic framework do not have this same engineering in place. 

And besides, if your board culture and moderation are not designed to be psyops, then it shouldn't matter if you gain new members. The levers of power would still be held by people who aren't engaged in the psyop. 

>This was leading to a resurgence of Monarchism and national socialism as diametric to current social ills.

>>27990
>You didn't really give a technical response...
Buddy, again, how are you here if you don't understand the times we're in? Have you really not heard of the jidf, hasbara, pravda, zersetzung, their strangehold on mass media and entertainment? How they killed Christ and not only boasted, but asked to be cursed to all future generations? The only solution to the psyop is to opt out, that's why you're here! 
>Your board culture...
There it is, you aren't one of us. We don't need a psyop as again, proclaiming the truth in Christ doesn't require subversion or trickery. The truth has set us free, and we will free those to make the same pattern of choices that lead them among us. 
>Old 8chan's core users were tamping down on national socialism...
Further proof that you aren't as well versed in recent history as you think you are. Why do you think that zzzchan doesn't even bother with a /pol/ but goes straight to the fasces?
>That's the plan. Really just kinda thinking...
>I'm not talking about this board, but about other potential projects.
You're doomed to failure if you lack the necessary rigor to give any action meaning. All that's seen from you is pitiful rhetoric. Don't "kind of" think and sit down for a while and think about w

>>27991
Edify us then. What are the hasbara, the pravda, and the zersetzung and what does that have to do with discussing the principles of the doctrine of Christ?
>How they killed Christ
You see you already have been completely and utterly subverted and are apostate. The JIDF for example are not the descendents of the jews who killed Christ, for they are not jews in the first place.