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>>28026
>A couple of them went to Australia I think...
You mean the Australian board or you just joshing us?

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>>28074
His name wasn't Josh.

>>28075
I don't get it. What does the unfunny cartoon guy larping as tarrant the obvious FED agent in the fake shooting video have to do with this thread topic?

Dunno where to post this, so I'm leaving it here

🔴 LIVE: Pope Leo celebrates first Easter amid Middle East war | AFP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sREmPpdtUJ4

Happy Easter /christian/?

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>>26231
I knew i got one wrong, i even double check and didn't see it.

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There you go.

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>>22362 (OP) 
Tried and failed to edit a Captain Falcon helmet on St. Nicholas. Still, good banner hopefully.

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>>26545
And I forgot to scale it down. Mea culpa

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I hope this doesn't count as a Mormon banner.

>>28065
Lucifer is the demon of logic, he rebelled against god, because couldn't understand why a allmighty being created such flawed creatures as humans, God doesn't always act rationally. For example, giving offspring is not a rational behaviour, for example, in the material, economic sense. Yet some people still have children. Malthusian thought and transhumanism are the epitome of luciferian ideology.

>>28072
>God doesn't always act rationally.
"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:8-9

God always acts rationally. We just don't/can't see or understand all the factors that weigh into his decisions.

>>28065
It's much simpler than that: God commanded us to go forth and multiply. In addition, Paul says it's preferable to be married and have intercourse than be tempted to fornicate.

How does one identify what is good fruit and not? Is it as simple as having children or doing your part to preach and spread the Word? Or is it deeper than that. When reading some of these parables about the talents and fruit/pruning again I know that I haven't been doing my part in the last few years on both parts, though I am now working to fix it slowly but surely after living in the world and falling away for far too long.

>>28135
>How does one identify what is good fruit and not?
I always thought these verses were part of the answer to that, specifically verse 22-23:

"19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."
Galatians ch. 5 KJV

>Or is it deeper than that.
It's deeper. It's your heart's disposition.

>>27968
I got a word filter ban and couldn't check in on Wednesday. I'll post an update this upcoming one since I'm busy with Christmas stuff with my family.

>>27946
The book of Psalms was originally poems and songs (songs, Psalms, haha) that were later arranged into a narrative USING narrative pieces that can offer another perspective on the lords mercy (I think?)
It IS in the Bible, it IS important, but man it can be difficult to interpret.

>>28017
Well, anyways. I've made it to 1 Corinthians 11

>>28113
Semi-regular check-in: I've made it from 1 Corinthians to Hebrews

Going through Acts for probably the first time. On 12 right now. I always avoided everything in the NT growing up past the Gospels because I considered them "boring" in my youth. Man was I wrong, especially about Acts. I'm really enjoying it thus far.

I'm also going through the Gospels with my GF (her first time reading them). Is about a chapter a day a good pace? When I first started I accidentally went through all of Matthew almost in one day with her over almost 3 hours and it kind of burnt her out a bit. Oops...

>>28123
Literally not an argument. Pagan hymns to Zeus are not holy scripture

>>28124
Did you even bother reading my picrel? Nobody is talking about hymns or whatever nonsense you're going on about. I'm talking about referenced sources and materials of prophets and other important figures saying or doing divine acts, which most definitely existed with good credentials, but are now lost or were nevertheless excised willfully.

This isn't 'referencing' a particular rock existing somewhere or even a foreign king that did so-and-so wicked act, in the context of evil.

>>28125
Scripture directly verbatim quotes pagan hymns. Your argument is that if scripture quotes something it must itself be scripture. Either your argument is bogus, or pagan hymns are scripture. But pagan hymns are not scripture, therefore your argument is bogus.

>>28125
>This isn't 'referencing' a particular rock existing somewhere or even a foreign king that did so-and-so wicked act, in the context of evil.

These are the particular quotes from pagan hymns I had in mind: Acts 17:28 “for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His offspring.’” Titus 1:12 “One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, ‘Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.’” How does this not accord with your given standard of approvingly using material as a source?

>>28119
Pretty par for the course. Don't feel bad about relapse, just keep trying. Again, my best advice is to read the Bible, specifically the King James Bible from start to finish. 

Above all remember: 

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.

38 This is the first and great commandment.

39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
- Mark 22:37-40

>>28117
I went to that website, and wow are there a lot of instructions:
https://www.daytonannunciation.org/baptism
>Until we have received this form, together with all supporting documents, the date you have scheduled for your child’s baptism remains tentative.

One part about baptism the Bible doesn't mention - the paperwork.

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>>28117
I don't follow internet drama or social media, so I don't know the full extent of this, but I can give a bit of context for some cases.
A lot of Orthodox churches come from poor countries or immigrant communities. I know people in my parish who grew up in churches where the offering plate would go around and not a single bit of cash would be collected, even though everyone felt awful about it, as their congregations at near starvation-level poverty. There's still parishes a couple hours from here which are so remote and impoverished that they're under strict limitations on how many lights can be turned on at once, and many of these are apparently covered in roof tiles because it's cheaper than regular siding. This is part of why a good amount of parishes here have offering boxes instead of collection plates, as it makes offerings or their lack less conspicious when money is tight.
Under those kinds of circumstances, you gotta ask: how do you feed your clergy, let alone pay them? There were a variety of solutions depending on the situation, and people did what they could. At least one church near here was still paying its priest in vegetables back in the 80s or 90s, as that was basically all anyone had to give. One solution, and kind of an awkward one, was to just pay the priest whenever you needed a kid baptised so you could plan ahead of time and scrounge together your two mites while your wife w

>>28126
That is interesting to explain the origin of this practice, but it is still unacceptable under those circumstances. If the people are too poor to tithe, they are too poor to pay a baptism fee. If they truly cannot give and the church cannot afford to stay open on their offerings, the apostolic example is for the minister to become bivocational and pay for it himself, not to commit simony.

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>>28130
Ephesians 4:28 “Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to give”.

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>>28131
>If the people are too poor to tithe, they are too poor to pay a baptism fee.
You could also say that of the woman with the two mites. Those two mites were literally all that she had, and normally she wouldn't be expected to give literally all the money she had to a church's offering, but she did that in an abnormal way without pride or drawing attention to it.
>the apostolic example is for the minister to become bivocational and pay for it himself, not to commit simony
I suspect bivocational priests were likely common back then (based off a couple accounts of frontier priests I've read), although I'd have to ask around a bit more.
This isn't something I can speak authoratatively on, as I'm just going off what I've heard. It was an awkward practice, and the few times I've seen it come up with local priests, they didn't really like it partially because it was possible for it to turn into simony if it lasted beyond the circumstances which created it. In some situations nowadays, it likely is that. You could say the same about laxity in fasting: what could be consideration for health concerns, the newness of the Christian, and various situational elements for one person could be laziness or a lack of discipline for another (or even

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The Pope's Exorcist is based loosely on the memoirs of Fr. Amorth, so does it count as an outlier of Christian cinema, or is it resigned to the hollywood horror bin?

Surprised no one's said: It's a Wonderful Life yet. Also, more in theme and values than anything but The Homecoming: A Christmas Story (1971) also known as "The Walton's movie" has a lot of Christian sensibility.

I'd also recommend A Christmas Prayer and Bluegrass Christmas. Not as high quality but it was nice seeing something from Great American Family that seemed to intentionally try to showcase a Christian-minded narrative.

>>28115
Nice. Thanks for the recommendations, Anon. Cheers.

>>23561
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>>23562
very original

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>>23470
>They used the idea of a gay gene to get acceptance even though the science behind it was bunk.
I read into that one time and all I found was some mentions of genes that were more prevalent in gays, and maybe increased the likelihood of gayness, but nothing that could be called an actual CAUSE of that.
The "born that way" argument doesn't even work in their own framework because they still accept/talk about the existence of bisexuals, even though the entire premise behind it is 100% choice.

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>>28047
>Is there a scriptural prohibition against celebrations that are not explicitly commanded by God?
Yes. Leviticus 10:1-3
>the celebration of Christmas is covered under Christian liberty.
1. The Church has no liberty to corrupt God’s worship by introducing whatever idolatry and will-worship it feels like 2. For the Church to observe Christmas destroys Christian liberty, since all who are present are forced to observe Christmas with their church. And the nature of Christian liberty is not that we are free to throw our liberty away, but we are bound to reject anything which impedes it (like the will-worship of man) Galatians 5:1

>>28106
>Yes. Leviticus 10:1-3
This wasn't a cultural celebration. Two sons of Aaron were executed for violating the very specific rules God prescribed regarding the tabernacle and sacrifice. If they burnt strange fire in their homes or in the wilderness, they wouldn't have been killed.
>1. The Church has no liberty to corrupt God’s worship by introducing whatever idolatry and will-worship it feels like
No one said it did. Christmas is not idolatry or will-worship, it's a celebration/remembrance of a real historical event that is recorded in Luke's gospel.
>2. For the Church to observe Christmas destroys Christian liberty, since all who are present are forced to observe Christmas with their church.
Very few brothers' consciences are pricked by being "forced" once a year to remember the incarnation (which, btw, they also believe truly happened). After a certain point, zeal crosses into legalism and extinguishes faith.

>>28108
>This wasn't a cultural celebration
Neither is Christmas.
>Two sons of Aaron were executed for violating the very specific rules God prescribed regarding the tabernacle and sacrifice. If they burnt strange fire in their homes or in the wilderness, they wouldn't have been killed.
The way they violated the rules was by doing other than prescribed. They were not starting a fire pit. They were offering sacrifice as ordained priests. For them to do this at all apart from the tabernacle would have also been a violation.
>No one said it did. Christmas is not idolatry or will-worship, it's a celebration/remembrance of a real historical event that is recorded in Luke's gospel.
You just said it’s not that but also it is. This special holy day is nowhere instituted in scripture, it is God who makes holy and not men. To observe a holiday which God has not instituted is to add to His worship and corrupt it with our own inventions.
>Very few brothers' consciences are pricked by being "forced" once a year to remember the incarnation
I would be concerned for anyone who ever forgets it, but this defense is no excuse. Whether or not the conscience is pricked is immaterial, because we are bound by God to stand fast for our freedom, our own consent does not legitimize a fresh sl

>>28109
Maybe you're from a denomination that holds the date as sacred, but the churches I've been to claim Jesus likely wasn't born on December 25th and there's nothing special about the day other than that we picked a day to remember. 

You speak of freedom, but call Christmas celebrators idolaters and will-worshipers. Can you give an example of Christian liberty? Is it only negative liberty? Are we only free to NOT do things? Is there anything we're now free to do that we weren't when we were under the law? Your argument could be used to demand that we obey all the OT dietary and feast laws as well.

>"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it." Romans 14:5-6 KJV

>>28110
>Maybe you're from a denomination that holds the date as sacred, but the churches I've been to claim Jesus likely wasn't born on December 25th and there's nothing special about the day other than that we picked a day to remember. 
As I said, if it’s only a sermon on the incarnation, there’s much less to object to. The problem is that this practice has a history. In the middle ages celebrating Christmas meant much more than a sermon on the incarnation, and it still does in most churches which observe it across the world; in the church of Rome, in the eastern churches, in the Anglican communion, in most Lutheran churches which celebrate it etc. Practically nobody observes a day called Christmas as nothing more than a sermon on the incarnation outside of Baptist and Reformed contexts. Now it is good that in your church you are told it’s not a special day, since this day is at least like the bronze serpent of Moses which became an idol and needed to be destroyed, so if such a sermon should occur it should be prefaced with the clarification that the day is not especially holy. But I think it is wise to remove it altogether to remove the monuments of idolatry from the Church and leave no trace of it.
>Can you give an example of Christian liberty?
Christians are free to eat whatever foods they want, and to fast or feast.