/christian/ - christian

>>26837
Pretty much, when you think about it. Since the historicity of Christ, the early church, and the events of the OT grow stronger each day with modern archaeology, most atheists are left with attempting to attack the base of the Jenga blocks to topple the tower. But doing so is futile since they can't disprove what we already know happened.

>>26837
I say no because you have the really common (and autistic) argument that "believing in God used to be reasonable, but now we have Science(tm)" which is difficult to decipher as to what that's even supposed to mean, let alone connect it to something so specific.

>>26822
Documents were never dated that way even by secularists because at best that would only give you the age of the materials not the text.

>>26849
So, would it be best to frame it instead as a clash of opposing epistemologies? Empiricism versus rationalism.

>>24165
The Septuagint hands down. Required viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI1yRTC6kGE

>>26892
I have never heard it ever enterained anywhere that he held any inclination of gnostic thought. The problem with being creative is that people will see whatever they want within your work despite what you intend.

>I have never heard it ever enterained anywhere

A quick search could easily show you it is a pretty old topic in multiple languages.

>>26898
 A quick Google search could reveal many things and yet not make it a mainstream suggestion.

>>26900
>I need things to be in the mainstream in order to consider them
May I suggest returning to cuckchan or plebbit?

>>26915
Do you need an echo chamber?

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Five hundred years is a long time to be separated from family. You should make up and return to them, Luther-kun.

Telegram requires a smartphone so I can't join.

Of course I assume after 10 days you probably gave up anyways, but Revolt doesn't require a phone. But in general... this board is dead... so I'm not sure how a spinoff would not be dead as well. I think there's very little hope for continuous all week fellowship through the internet.

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First a glowie wants to glow even the Holy Bible (get a life, seriously). Then Kohen wants to shout this ministry is dead. With all due respect, BO... but nevermind. Let's sit and wait what will come next. I'd wager JoSfaggots and asatrutrannies are just around the corner.

Can we not have a Bible study thread? If the thread doesn't have a reply limit we can just keep it going as we move through the year, and anyone can jump right in.

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always remember

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>>26796
Based, and a sobering start.

>remove religion
>promote degeneracy
This is the part I can't stomach. How many will not be lost to the current state of things and their triumphant brokenness. I feel it in my heart that I have to be open to the possibility that righteous people exist at God's pleasure, everywhere and nowhere, in every niche of the socio-political landscape but for the most egregiously demonic. Test, with patience and loving kindness, because Jesus said so. I pray that our civility stands on His spiritual reality, and not on any secular reason. This is how the people of the God prepare to look at worldly things without becoming worldly themselves. Amen.

Consider this, please. Both candidates are 777% what Schlomohomo wants. Both ostensively give a living demon like Netanyahu whatever he wants, among a laundry list of scandals. It may be the case that no institutional politicians would ever even become présidentiable without ((( their ))) blessing. I don't know what we should be doing about this, honestly. A Christian party? Aren't there too many already? Not in the US, but does that even matter? Any dealings with these people, whom we test as per the above, and most unfortunately, are literally jumping into a pit of spiritual vipers. Christian anarchist ways? I have an interest in p

>>26796
Just as the video in this anon's reply says, no matter what happens with this election or any elections thereafter, Jesus will win. The Word of God will be fulfilled. Of course, I am also aware that the outcome of the election will also have immediate and long-term effects on our current society, outcomes that have the potential to bring some amount of pain and suffering. Even so, I'm thankful for this chance for people to learn/be reminded of this valuable lesson: "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. (Romans 3:23 NKJV)."
People rely a lot on elected officials and leaders. Oftentimes, many will put these leaders on a pedestal, see them as untouchable, infallible. But of course, every single one of them is human, guilty of sin like everyone else. As the election process continues, and political candidates/leaders continue to make mistakes, I pray that people will turn their gaze upward to see the One who is truly infallible: our loving Father. 
Of course, if there is some way for the election to become more reasonable and less tumultuous, I would be very thankful. 

>>26798
Your reply is very thought provoking, thank you. Sadly I don't have answers to all of your questions, but I do have some thoughts. 
>I don't know what we should be doing about this, honestly. A Christian party?

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>'Alien' perspectives lovingly appreciated.
What did he mean by this?

>>26852
Aliens can believe in Christ also...right?

>nujaks

>>23278
>Even a child knows that if the universe had a beginning, then something must have existed before it.
That just moves things one step backwards.
>>26725
Even worse, it is AI generated.

>>26726
That just moves things one step backwards.
To the uncaused source of all things, which is logically necessary for the existence of something which does have a cause.
Its a simple premise; anything that has a begin, and we know the universe does for multiple reasons such as entropy, requires something to begin it. 
>That just moves it back
Is a non-argument in the first place, since it still doesn't provide an explanation for how anything exists. Indeed, materialism can never explain how anything exist. The very nature of everything in the universe requires something unbound by that nature to even be here.If nothing uncaused could exist, than nothing could exist.

But the universe itself cannot be this uncaused source because know it had a beginning, we know it is undergoing entropy and changing into an ultimate state of uniformity which is fundamentally incompatible with the idea that the universe always existed because then the universe would have 'already' reached that state
In short, the finite logically cannot exist without the infinite.

>incites extreme racial supremacy
>and woman oppression
>utter schizo shit

Stop making demon worshippers sound good.

>>22029
so trve anon, so trve

>>26646
Quit completely, delete every porn image off your devices and stop whacking it. If you can abstain for a day, then you can abstain for a week. If you can abstain for a week, then you can abstain for a month, and so on. Small steps, and if you fail, you pick yourself up, ask Christ for forgiveness and strength, and start over again. It's a journey and a hard one, but eventually it will be a distant memory and you won't even have to think about it anymore.

>>23460 (OP) 
The biggest thing was getting involved not just in a church, but also in a good Christian group of friends who love the Lord more than anything else. When you spend time around other people, you become more like them. It took special permission for particularly advanced souls before certain monks became hermits. You need good people in your life who will build you up and expect better of you.

>>26646
There's nothing wrong with quitting a part of yourself. Otherwise, we would never improve. You need to face your emotional insecurities and flaws before they destroy you. Try to find a good Christian therapist who can help you avoid hitting rock bottom in the process. And stop abusing yourself. You deserve better. Once you've crossed that bridge, you'll thank the Lord that he brought you there. Remember, you are more than your addictions and flaws.

>>23461
one day you will, by the will God.

>>26650
>If you can abstain for a day, then you can abstain for a week
Wrong, also your own imagination can make porn or porno situations
The best way is to distract yourself

I have not. And I probably never will. Notwithstanding the most success I have with quitting pornography by far is a proverbial cutting off of that which offends me, in removing myself from ownership over desktop PC's and laptops (I post this from someone else's computer.) Now I am "free" from pornography. "Free" because I do not practice the habit anymore, but I still have the habit. And I am sure if I went back to my old ways that I would quickly pick up from where I left off.

I still use a smartphone for computing tasks. But curiously smartphones do not have the same grip on me like PC's and laptops do. Perhaps the web browsing logistics do not mesh with me. Perhaps it is because it was PC's, and not smartphones, that had dominion over my impressionable adolescent years. Either way, thank God for me being enough of a no name wage slave that I do not need my own PC for my job. It makes the transition to a smartphone and staying away from computers easier.

>>26772 (OP) 
Based OP

>>26659 (OP) 
These miracles lead people to Christ and the church, which would be the opposite of what Satan would want.

>>26793
Do they? At what cost? Men and women of remarkable perseverance in discipleship are to be celebrated, especially the example of those who willingly suffered and died for Christ. This is proper veneration, without graven images. I have even known Catholics and Orthodox brothers who had a sober understanding of sainthood and veneration, but I fear they are an infinitesimal minority: most will simply run to the idol-mongers hoping to find magical recipes and amulets until Jesus has so small a place in their hearts that it doesn't make much difference. The OP brought the issue of miracles attributed to the saints or, more precisely, to the favour they were able to obtain from the Lord. Do most believers care about this precision, though? How many are not left with the impression that the saints, and not Christ, are performing those miracles?

>>26794
Funny you should mention that. Today I shared the gospel with a good aquaintance. I asked him if he goes to church (as I had a feeling from prior chats that if I asked him if he was Christian, he would say yes). It turns out he's Roman Catholic. I asked him if they ever told him how to be saved and go to Heaven. He responded uncertainly, saying: "yes, you know... be a good person". He showed me a little 4" statue of a saint, and some kind of tabletop locket (I don't know what it's called - it opens and has a photo of a bearded saint on one side, and words on the other). He started telling me about the miracles done by this saint. He never mentioned Jesus during our whole conversation.

I had a pocket New Testament and shared with him scriptures showing that it's Christ alone who saves us, and he did all of the work. Our part is simply to trust in him, and we go to Heaven. I shared the verses in Romans 3, which say there are no good people and we're all sinners. I shared the scriptures about the unnamed crucified thief, who was a criminal who did no good works, who simply changed his mind at the very end, recognized his own sinfulness (contrasted with who Jesus truly was and Jesus' sinlessness) and asked in faith for Jesus to remember him. Jesus promised him Heaven. I shared Romans 4:5 ("But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteou

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>Guadalupe
Of all Marian apparitions... fiery, spines, sparks... Holy smokes! It shows through 2d. What abominations wouldn't have amused themselves going by that name and losing souls!

Idolatry is such a disgraceful sin, a nail striking the soul, a rabid bark against the Lord... one finds it here once and there again, until it permeates every aspect of one's life. Isn't the slope a slippery one indeed? It tears our agency away as individuals and societies, it normalises degeneracy on every level, to the point of infanticide and ostensive human sacrifice to demons. Monetised snuff. ((( Zeitgeist ))). Lord please speak to the anon's friend, show him even a shimmer of Paul's favour, that by Your own voice he may come to straighten his ways and rejoice in Your mercy. Would you not possibly, Father, consider to also give me and my bros the strength to fear and love You alone? Please let us not remain slaves to sin, this whole pit of golden calves. Please, have mercy. In Jesus' name. Amen.

>>26797
As a Catholic I agree that your friend was definitely misguided

The traditional Catholic view is that salvation is through God by having faith in Jesus and following his commandments ("following his commandments" are what we consider works and sacraments).

With that being said, I don't think he was idolizing that Saint. To worship something means to treat it as God which he obviously did not do. The Catholic "idols" are usually akin to something like the nativity during Christmas time.

With that being said, thanks for helping your friend. God bless you.