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Also "make the goddamn thread already" edition
Previously: >>16405

>Trump has all the cards (in UNO)
>Israel to increase hasbara budget to $730 million
>KC-135R shot down over Persian (sic) Gulf
>HAPPENING UAE STRUCK AGAIN BY IRANIAN DRONES
<actually it's the arabs
<who the fuck knows
>Iran will run out of oil storage capacity soon™
<or maybe not
>Operation "Epic Fury" is over. Now "Project Freedom" starts
<pls cross strait you can trust us :3
<gets missiled immediately

<double check catalog
ok here we go
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Arab flipfloppers
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>>17014
>Pic on the right is them getting pissed off at Trump using their territory without consulting them.
>Pic on the right is them realizing it benefits them
What a shitshow.
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>oy vey, its anotah plandemic
>help us goyim
Can't wait for the eventual news that it was Iran who released the hantavirus in the world.
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>>17016
>Too many of the goyim are aware of our influence, corruption and pedo islands
<Time for another fake and gay plandemic distraction and lockdowns. After that? we'll find another George Floyd to start up the riots again, push the bbc stuff harder and later in the year have our puppet trump resist an attempt of impeachment by attempting a real coup on the capitol with staged actors, undercover agents and his actual retarded supporters with guns and once they fail? Begin the jewish dictatorship of USSA.
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Trump is the worst war time president ever. I'm convinced he is trying to help make the global economic situation worse. The hantavirus shit is just the icing on the cake. The elites are trying to crash this economy with no survivors
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What a pathetic disaster
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>>17018
If there's no ceasefire, then "his" team in congress will need to hang themselves voting for his war. Which means other team wins the midterms, and obliterates his ego projects, possibly a successful impeachment too boot.
Also the markets need to believe that he is actually looking to resolve this, or it's a global shitshow with no way out.
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>>17019
>"Iran please stop."
>>17019
>Trump 2016-2025
>Fuck the UN, bunch of pussies. Who even needs them? All they do is complain about world events. We should leave the UN. They're nothing but toothless faggots
>Trump 2026
>UN! Tell Iran to play nice! Aren't you like the ultimate authority?!
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>>17018
>trying to help make the global economic situation worse
That seems to be a popular conspiracy theory at the moment. From the Nord Stream pipeline going boom to drones of dubious attribution blowing up the Gulf state's energy infrastructure, what the world might be left with is a situation roughly equivalent to that of the "great reset", "new normal", or "build back better" agenda.
The difference between the covid virus lockdowns and this clusterfuck being that a larger group of nations coordinated via the UN were involved with media induced covid paranoia, while this implementation is now being overseen by a much smaller clique opposed to the burdens of such a plan being shared equally. The austerity resulting from a scenario like that would of course have much harder and more localized limits placed on economic activity since blowing up energy infrastructure is something that can't be walked back in the same way as temporary lockdown measures. 
Polite sage for engaging in a bit of tinfoil tier speculation rather than having any new information about the conflict to post.
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>>17024
I don't speak for everyone, but it's hardly tinfoil, Strelok. The US has supposedly funneled $20 trillion building a bullshit bunker system, abd most prominent countries have as well. We might be looking at TPTB hitting some hitch and trying to raise the body count with brute force before taking cover. 

At this point, I generally look at the zOMG SO STUPID moves of higher ups as feeding into their plans, but masquerading as incompetence or base corruption. Cops do it all the time. 

>vidrel from a couple threads ago
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>>17026
Right this global conspiracy shit is idiotic. The women in the vid is full hasbara and frankly the west can crash the global economy by  themselves and we do harbor all the kikes and eugenecists that want to remake the world as a lot more empty to begin with.
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Fuck we could remake the world easily still in the west but the reality is our current power elite are hostile foreigners or captured and see their better world as an empty automated one. And that's empty of everyone but them.
>>17024
Reads like KikeGPT
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>>17020
>"his" team in congress will need to hang themselves voting for his war.
The gas prices have already sealed their fate. It is too late.
Tariffs on inbound Chinese junk? Meh, we're buying too much junk anyway.
Food prices up? Dropping a few pounds won't hurt the average American.
Fuck with gas prices? You're cooked. gg, no re.
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>>17002
>The Arabs turning on each other is happening faster than I expected.
Saudi Arabia was dominating a lot of the Arab world largely by the application of force. It turned out, they didn't have the biggest guns and their backer (US) and new ally (Israel, courtesy of Abraham Accords) both got btfo and turned out to be unreliable troublemakers endangering them. The Saudi Arabia style of domination is one that produced obedience but also resentment, so now that the cracks are laid bare, SA's whole "leader of the Arab world" enterprise is in danger and Saudi Arabia really doesn't like the UAE wriggling free, especially because it could easily be more than the UAE walking away.

But part of the issue is also that UAE is seriously considering realignment since it is not sure if it can survive another Iranian drone+missile rain after Iran depleted the fuck out of its air defenses and the USA refused to resupply while still supplying Israel. The Ukraine deal does help the UAE, but it doesn't put more ammo into UAE interceptor stockpiles. Well, the Ukrainian drone interceptors can certainly help, at least. But last time Iran went after UAE really fucking hard so it's not looking good if a resumption of hostilities commences.

>>17013 (OP) 
Dude, if you're going to post Trump's "I have all the cards" you're obligated to post the Iranian embassy's reply to it too. They're tooling Trump pretty hard.

https://xcancel.com/IraninHyderabad/status/2051104507233456621
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>THEORY REVISION
We'd posted a few threads ago about the possibility of the IRGCs sub fleet being "unaccounted for" once the command structure became effectively decentralized, and discussed the possibility of widespread nuclear reatliation.

In light of (>>17040, >>17041) and the other mysterious hits  recently, do you think the subs might have a small stock if drones instead or in addition to a nuke payload? Im thinking that a smaller sub with SoTA stealth tech could pop up, hit a target, and slip away largely unmolested. 

Hell, now that I think about it, the Chinese could drop supplies from their bajillion merchant ships at ocean dead drops and nobody would know. Just a floating box or two, tied together with a cell phone in a ziploc bag, and captain Ping gets a little social credyt.
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>>17026
That vid is grade A brainrot. "The press is trying to destroy the country." Listen, the mainstream press might be into peddling white guilt, but everyone knows they're in bed with either the government, the deep state, or the same people who pay off the government and while the white guilt peddlers love to pretend they like Islam, the secret truth is that they don't, which is why "Islam is RIGHT about women" trolling works on them so well. If they genuinely believed in the message of Islam, this sort of trolling would not offend them at all. It offends the PC types because deep down they really don't agree with what Islam says about women but they feel compelled to not say anything negative about Islam lest they seem islamophobic and intolerant themselves. And that's another reason why they wouldn't go out of their way to support that Islamist shit like the crazy lady is claiming.

>>17027
To be honest, way too many Iranian monarchists are genuinely this fucking dumb.

>>17042
I don't believe the subs have a nuke payload. I do believe there are also submarine drones though, yes. The idea of Iranian subs having drone payloads is interesting and possible, yes, but I'm not sure what benefit they get from drones, unless they use them for scouting? I guess they could be used to deliver torpedos and return instead of risking the sub proper maybe, but I wonder why you wouldn't just build longer-range torpedos to begin with. Usually subs are limited by capacity rather than price of ammunition so they would rather have better weapons.
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>>17043
Islam was always right about women & faggot though, Strelok.
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>>17044
A broken clock is right twice a day. Don't forget strelok origins...
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>>17043
>That vid is grade A brainrot.
She has a retarded normies take, sure, but the fact that normies are starting to have a take to present is substantial. I think shes right about the horseshoe effect, and that PTSD-addled retards on both sides will sign on with censorious atrocities mistakenly believing that theyll be exempt from repercussion. 

>submarine drones
First, if Iran did have nukes, itd be convenient to put them out to sea so inspectors are left empty handed. Or, they could build nuke capable subs (sans nukes) and have the Chinks load them up with nukes elsewhere. 

Second, im thinking that a drone sub could have a custom section of firing ports (like you see on missile subs) for drone deployment. They could very easily have a workshop underneath to manufacture drone sand load the ports. Operationally, they could pop up, open the ports, launch and guide from the ship, and sink back down once they confirm a hit. Super simple. Could even be a new amphibious multi-stage drone model we haven't seen yet for extra dickery.

Sub-to-sub could have maybe one or two torpedo bays, but at a certain point it makes more sense to invalidate everything on or near the surface and let US subs starve until they surrender.
>>17014
Too late to play both sides. Iran alrrady paints them as legitimate targets and removing US assets just removes whatever scant protection they have left 
>>17020
Congress would vote in a heartbeat to support if Trump wasn't in power. They are so afraid of optics that they rather just break the law, afterall they create it so why can't they break it? That Congress only does half hearted votes against Trump's war powers and lets the issue as a whole fall to the wayside is sign they support the continued war.
>>17042
Most of the Iranian sub fleet are small subs that are really only made to transit the strait itself and near Iranian shores. Their larger subs are conventional and unless they kept a top secret project for just this moment, a drone launch sub carrier isn't part of their known fleet.
>>17045
Fair enough. Not in any way promoting these mudshits, merely pointing out the two things they get right.
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>hezbolla have fucking fiberoptic drones
wew
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All part of the plan
https://nypost.com/2026/05/03/us-news/doomsday-for-california-as-last-barrel-of-oil-from-the-middle-east-arrives-in-long-beach/
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>>17055
Didn't the retarded Governor run all of the oil companies in California out of state?
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>>17055
The port of Longbeach and Los Angeles make up 1/3 of all import volume and traffic, if california can't transport goods due a gas shortage then logistics as a whole also collapse in the east coast as well.
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>>17058
It just means ordering oil from a couple of other jurisdictions. There are two continents that California can buy oil from. Which they obviously have done in the week since that article was published.
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>>17057
Yes, most of their oil is sourced from other states like Alaska or foreign countries. States like California have long been following if that you pollute somewhere else, then the tree huggers don't actually give a fuck and it is ok. Also allows them to pitch electric cars and the eventual taxes per miles driven.
Both Newsom and Trump are alike in that they see high gas prices as acceptable. For Newom it helps push electric vehicles and for Trump it helps US oil get richer. 
>>17058
California has long threatened to kill transportation by banning large trucks that are not electric. If the rest of the country does not have alternatives in place, then they deserve shortages because they have had years before the Iran war.
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>>17062
Alternative to oil based transport? Just off the cuff how is the majority of electrical energy generated in the US?
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>>17063
>Just off the cuff how is the majority of electrical energy generated in the US?
Oil of course.
>>17063
>"The majority of electrical energy in the United States is generated using steam turbines powered by fossil fuels (primarily natural gas and coal) and nuclear energy. 

Dominant Sources: Natural gas is the single largest source, accounting for approximately 43% of utility-scale electricity generation in 2023, followed by nuclear energy at roughly 19% and renewables at 21%. 
Generation Technology: Most electricity is produced by heating water to create steam, which spins turbine generators; this method is used for fossil fuels, nuclear, biomass, geothermal, and solar thermal. 
Other Technologies: Additional major generation methods include gas turbines (often for natural gas), hydro turbines (using flowing water), wind turbines, and solar photovoltaics (converting sunlight directly to electricity).
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>launcher gets droned
>send goys to fix it
>goys get droned
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>>17068
Funny, but who is droning whom, and what kind of a launcher was that?
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>>17069
Hezbolla is droning an iron dome launcher that uses Tamir interceptors, come on, anon, keep up.
>the kikes set up a secret base in Iraq to launch attacks on Iran
>attacked Iraqi forces that discovered it
>months of "oi vey" you can't attack nations that have US bases
Just another example of the kikes being literal cancer in the region.
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It seems that longs on Oil are going to pay out tomorrow.
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>>17075
>tomorrow 
Asian markets are open. And US oil is up 3.94% over three hours.
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>>17075
>Mr. President! What are you going to do about opening the strait and oil crisis? Countries are running out of oil and soon we will be out of diesel in 40 something days and there's this hantavirus stuff going on
<I don't care about any of that stupid stuff. It doesn't affect me. I care about my ball room and nothing more. tHaNk YoU fOr YoUr AtTeNtIoN tO tHiS mAtTeR.......now piss off.
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>>17077
Everyone knew negotiations will go nowhere.
I am surprised ceasefire still holds at this point.
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>>17077
Trump is the most anti-imperialist president that has ever existed in recent memory, all due to his sheer level of incompetence. 
Those bankruptcies were no joke, man.
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>>17078
After being hit like it was, even the US knows it would further lose a propaganda war with even more footage of burning planes and bases. Now with the US enforcing the blockage and Iran using the land routes to China, will the US get back enough balls to strike the land routes?
>>17079
>inb4 there is a sudden an unexplainable rise in "practice fatalities" across multiple bases to cover that the same people have been dead for months
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>>17087
>practice fatalities
Don't forget "heart attacks," "suicides," and SEAL Team 6-style "tragic vehicular malfunctions."
>>17087
>Now with the US enforcing the blockage and Iran using the land routes to China, will the US get back enough balls to strike the land routes?
How quickly could Iran and China build a higher capacity oil pipeline to reach an equivalency of their previous tanker shipping volume?
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>>17091
years, and that's just the construction. You have potential decades of negotiations about who the pipeline is going through and what concessions they'd like for the rights.
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>>17013 (OP) 
>When the enemy wins, you also wins
>Dun Tacsu
>>17093
Given the situation,  id be surprised if parties involved with the major BRICKS players werent speeding the process along. The US has had a lot of leeway from other countries over the years from "at least keeping the lights on" (re:oil, security, ag, trade). Now that weve started to compromise that dynamic, everyone will be looking elsewhere for alternatives or rapidly expanding the ones they have.
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>"Why must they hate me so?"
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>>17099
Thank G-d Trump is president, the never ending salt from all sides is fantastic.
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>>17099
Is he really calling out the basket of deplorables? Fucks' sake...
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>>17100
Denounce the Talmud.
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I think this is somehow related to the war in "Western Asia", no?
>>17104
>When you redeem.
>>17104
>tells pajeets to not buy gold
That's like telling the orange fucker to drop his ballroom. Or gold. Or this war for the kikes.
>>17104
Keeeeeeeeeeeek okay I'm back on the trump train. Single handedly restricting the export of the global coolie class
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>>17104
Do not reedem, sar!
SAR
SAAAAR!?
WHY YOU REEDEMING!?
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>>17111
Excellent information, Strelok.
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>>17016
>Hantavirus.
>wtf is a hanta
>Look up meaning
>Literally scam/fraud in heeb.
Way too on the fucking nose, are these niggerkikes for real? Even normalfags are noticing this.
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>>17113
They got away with it for years, now their hubris is catching up with them.
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More dead kikes?
More dead kikes.
>>17117
Great stuff. Thanks Strelok, nice Whitepill to start the day off right.
>>17113
>Has the name hantavirus.
<Doesn't turn people into horny tentacle monsters.
And I thought the heebs are supposed to be the kings of laciviousness. Or something. But I guess that too is another Jew lie, huh.
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>>17120
>But I guess that too is another Jew lie, huh.
No, that one is definitely correct. That truther doesn't primarily originate from ((( them ))), but rather from the goyim.
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>>17117
>OY GEVELT!!
>>17120
well...
>>17117
Glad to see they learned to bring multiple drones after the first strike. There have been a few other dubious hits that could have racked way more kills if they simply doubletapped.
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>>17124
Maybe a supply issue, either way you can tell these guys are new to the tech and still gaining experience.
>>17124
Yeah, I'm actually surprised that they are sending multiple drones at the same time while having one drone coordinate with the other ones.
The sandniggers are learning fast, the kikes on the other hand...
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>Bonds record high.
>Oil at $110.
>Strategic oil reserves running out.
I think things may get interesting pretty soon.
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>>17128
If fucking only.
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How many times now that trump has insulted americans and america?
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>>17132
>thinks it's about his attempted "revitalization"
<doesn't think about the circumstances of it coming from a nation with millennia of history, that understood through its own history the dynastic cycle
When has there last been a burger president with an education, and real diplomatic strength? It's before Nixon isn't it?
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>>17133
JFK comes to mind no pun intended
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Time for the US to send another package of munitions. Now was it sabotage, drones, or just retardation?
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>>17135
Glad to hear it. That entire section outlined in your map can't be obliterated soon enough.
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Kikes have changed up their story, obvs. Many such cases.
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>>17135
It's artificial scarcity.
Shooting missiles to other people is too much  of a hassle, so now the business model has cut out the middleman and the ammo detonates the second you put it in storage.
>>17135
Man if I'd looked out my window and saw that I'd be wondering if it were a low yield nuclear blast or not. That must have been a lot of material that just went up.
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>>17140
kek
>>17139
Reminds me of the port in Lebanon going up.
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>>17142
I missed that. Vid clips?
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>>17143
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vo0cMwl-u-A
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>>17144
Thanks Strelok.
>>17128
Summer's gonna be fun
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>>17152
>immovable rock
>irresistible force

Adding kikes into the mix only makes it just that much more popcorn-inducing.
What the prediction markets saying for renewed strikes Friday not just in time for Memorial long weekend?
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What did he mean by this?
>the UAE nuclear drone attack is still "under investigation" with no one saying it was Iranian
>US was pushing UAE to occupy an Iranian island 
Seems like the kikes really wanted a false flag to kick off everything again to justify war crimes. 
>>17155
Standard rant that journalists report on news. And not kissing the ring.
He's upset that everything everyone knew played out the way it was expected, with Iran not admitting defeat, operating asymmetrically, and withstanding the kikes favorite decapitation strike. And is holding a very strong card economically. And can still retaliate against further strikes in kind. With all that being reported on. With leaked memos confirming all of this. He needed another Venezuela, he became Bush with  Iraq, but worse. And the media noticed. And there was no attack by Iran to conjure up support for his, the kikes warmongering.
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>>17152
Ah... the war special operations continues.
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>>17155
>Just surrender please Iran before I lose the midterms and lose my chance on that ballroom.
>Russian gas has another 30 day extension
I am now absolutely certain oil in the middle east will be on fire this week.
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Well Iran immediately surrender unconditionally as soon as they meet the full might & power of DIE!?
>>17159
Turns out it was TACO Monday. 
Gulf states might have been explicit on how fucked up things will be for their states if Trump went ahead targetting infrastructure. And that there would be no "bounce back" to normal for years
>>17159
When the motor oil, gas and diesel runs out everywhere. I hope the angry masses gives trump, his family and his cabinet the mussolini treatment.
The whole world is about to go through a gas crisis and it's all the fault of one stupid orange troll and a genocidal old kike. Meanwhile the masses of both "democracy" loving nations don't give a shit and are too busy hopelessly wage slaving with high prices and shit wages, eating goyslop, being degenerates and enjoying mindless bread and circuses. We all deserve the suffer the consequences.
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>>17166
Funniest thing. There was a fatwa against nukes. Those two lunatics decided they needed to kill him. Suddenly having a nuke might be seen as a deterrent to "mowing the grass".
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>>17161
I don't believe that I've ever seen two planes Yaranaika like that.
>>17167
Imagine if Britain when they was an empire did this shit with their ships. The funny thing is america's 250th birthday is 1 month away and THIS is the best we can do.......
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>>17169
To be fair, you can do better. It's just that idiots and kikes are involved.
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>>17161
>"There is a white female pilot, a beaner female electronics warfare officer, and also a pajeet electronics warefare officer that were apart of the 2026 team. The females were in different jets and the jeet wasn't paired with a female. There is a total of 4 pilots and 4 ewos making it a 50% chance that a female was involved in the crash, and a 25% chance that the jeet was involved which brings the total chance of DEI involvement up to a 75% chance. Kek."
DIE indeed.

Some truly bizarre flight dynamics after they tangled up. Its a miracle that both teams managed to eject, apparently safely.
>>17155
Trump just truly doesn't seem to be able to comprehend the concept of asymmetric war/resistance, nor does he understand that different victory conditions can exist beyond "KICKING THE ENEMY'S ASS, ONESIDEDLY!" It's like asking your 6 year old little brother, who's a big fan of G.I. Joe, Transformers, and DBZ, how would he fight an win a war. If an enemy is "beaten" but they refuse to surrender and can continue to resist then they aren't really beaten.

Trump has 3 choices at this point with Iran
>abandon the war under what ever terminology (surrender, tactical retreat, frozen conflict, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED or whatever)
>deploy the troops (which will likely fail and will absolutely become a quagmire)
>complete obliteration from the air (which, while doesn't necessarily mean nukes, it ultimately means nukes.)
Doing it with conventional arsenal will cause a lot of damage but will most likely not unseat the Iranians and risks draining even more of America's missiles and bombs to a critical point. Which just puts Trump back with the same 3 choices for the Iran war (surrender, boots, or obliteration (this time definitely with nukes)).

And the clock is ticking and it's not on America's side. Iran and the US are like two guys trying to choke each other out, only Iran is a groundhog man or something and is tolerant of lower levels of oxygen. The blockade is hurting both but Iran is use to that sort of pain and is capable of operating at a lower levels of inputs while as the US is very soon going to start suffering from multiple, interconnected, and complex systems beginning to stutter and shut down.
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Why is trump doing this?
>>17173
Who even cares at this point.
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>>17173
He is fucking insane, and wants to piss over everything, marking territory. And he never read or understood any classics about the passage of time, and how his bullshit will be the first to fall.
>>17173
My honest guess is systemic delusion. Trump thinks everything is OK because like many rulers through out history who have surrounded themselves with highly ambitious yes men (or found themselves surrounded by them) has become completely insulated from reality. Such a situation would make even a genius make disastrous decisions, and Trump isn't close to a genius. 

Reminds me of how the last Emperor of the Han dynasty was being controlled by a group of 10 scheming eunuchs that constantly fed him false information to manipulate his actions to the point that the Emperor had no idea what was going on in his disintegrating country. At the very end all the eunuchs basically turned to the Emperor and said to the effect
>"Hey man sorry about all this. Try to do your best OK. lol lmao" and then threw themselves into a river to drown
And the Emperor was just left standing there with a stunned expression of
<"What the fuck."

>>17174
Future historians will care while trying to piece all this shit together.
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>>17176
>Reminds me of how the last Emperor of the Han dynasty was being controlled by a group of 10 scheming eunuchs that constantly fed him false information to manipulate his actions to the point that the Emperor had no idea what was going on in his disintegrating country. At the very end all the eunuchs basically turned to the Emperor and said to the effect
Sounds very similar except our eunuchs is jews
>>17173
Why?
Because we need salt.
>>17161
Why does the Navy feel the need to take their more expensive electronic warefare variants and put them in airshows? Articles mention the Thunderbirds were already headlining, like the elite trained pilots weren't enough?
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>>17179
>Why does the Navy feel the need to take their more expensive electronic warefare variants and put them in airshows?
Because that's half the point of airshows. It's all about shoeing off how awesome your equipment is and how awesome the personnel that operate the equipment all are. Assuming it all goes well of course.
>>17179
I reckon those airframes are on the way out and this is a good way of saying they've eaten the flight hours and now need to be replaced.
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Last one isn't related to ME, but, I think it is an interesting piece of information.
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>>17185
He'll probably fuck up the bay of pigs 2.0
>>17186
Lovely.
>>17185
If Cuba indeed has enough drones for a US strike, then it can repeat what Iran did on a worse scale. The US mainland is woefully under prepared as there has been for too long an air of invincibility that comes with most conflicts happening the other side of the world. That the US has most of its major oil refineries within striking distance and likely not defended by any air defence is too good to pass up. Cuba has nothing to lose either, that the US is talking with Cuba just means the US playbook of stabbing countries in the back during negotiations is in play. With the Iran front a dismal failure, Trump will likely strike as a means of moving attention to a "positive".
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>>17156
Update on the drone attack on UAE nuclear plant. 
It came from Iraq. You know, the same place that the kikes set up not one, but two bases to strike Iran. I stand by my previous statement, the kikes wanted this to be hot again, dragging UAE as the useful goyim.
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>>17191
>Update on the drone attack on UAE nuclear plant. 
I found an unsourced twitter screen cap claiming that the reactor is actually leaking after the strike. Take it as you will.
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>>17196
I wish he fucking would already. The world has just become too shit and too gay and I was promised a post apocalyptic wasteland my entire life.
He clearly wants to and if he doesn't his master Netanyahu certainly does. The peace negotiation is completely intractable. He's ether going to have to make good on his threats or he's going to have to cuck out. He can't keep the economic situation in limbo like this forever.
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>>17202
Kentucky isn't even a kike-owned vassal. May the shabbos boomers who committed this act see many more circumstances occur like this one:
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>>17204
Can we just send the zogged boomer retards plaease. Just airdrop them into Iran if they're so convinced it is worth the blood. It should be theirs being spilt anyway.
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>>17205
The only one that should be allowed to decide where they fight are the soldiers, everyone else should fuck off.
>>17207
War is just politics by other means, it's just that it's not American politics that drives the military decisions anymore.
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>>17196
>we will bomb Iran like we bombed Japan
If fucking only, but sadly the boomer doesn't have the balls to nuke cities full of sandniggers.
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>>17209
Iran is Persian, not Arab. Regardless, while I think you may be correct. OTOH, The retarded orange monkey + his NathanAI Yahoo #794 master may be just this retarded a combo.
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>>17211
Any nuclear weapons used will destroy the user as quickly as the target and I personally don't think even the US can survive becoming a complete pariah state.
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>>17212
Survive?
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Which one of you goys did this in jew York near wall street? I thought we purged those "Occupy Wall Street" nazis.
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>>17207
>The only one that should be allowed to decide where they fight are the soldiers
This is how tribal niggers operate. Return to your brethren.
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>>17216
>near wall street?
Wall St???!!!??? OYY VEYY ITS ANNUDAH SHOAH!1111
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE JUST THINK OF THE SHEQELS!!?

The insanity of the xitter lebbit crowd mindset is on full display here, risking their very lives for that one last selfie. Some day, thousands will all die in the same conflagration that way.
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>>17219
>Some day, thousands will all die in the same conflagration that way.
And nothing of value will be lost.
>>17207
I think you aren't wrong here. Yes, war is politics by other means. And politics is war by other means. It is about exercising power, compelling your opponent to obey you, against his will. But on the ground, at the sharp end, it consists of problems in a certain narrow category that require certain solutions.

In the years after the First World War, it eas popular in certain circles in the US to level the charge that the career officers of the US military had far more in common with their German counterparts than with their countrymen. And, if I may borrow a line from Fehrenbach, so what? German plumbers and American plumbers stare into the same murky water, holding the same wrenches. If they resent it when some rich kid half their age, who never wore the uniform, who never wore any uniform, who don't know which end of the wrench to hold, keep grabbing them by the elbow and screaming NO NO NOT THAT WRENCH STUPID YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG STOP IT NO STOP TURN THAT PART INSTEAD, YOU'RE JUST THE HIRED HELP, I PAY YOU PEOPLE, DO WHAT I SAY, we can't really be surprised.  If they say, look, Broseph, you sent us out here and told us to fix this mess you made, and when you give that order it always comes with an implicit "do what you have to do, by any means necessary," and if you didn't want that, what are we doing here? I can't blame them. Maybe we, as a species, do this "war" stuff too much. Maybe we should stop and think now and then.
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>>17190
>If Cuba indeed has enough drones for a US strike, then it can repeat what Iran did on a worse scale. The US mainland is woefully under prepared as there has been for too long an air of invincibility that comes with most conflicts happening the other side of the world. 
You just got my noggin joggin, Strelok. If the situation was more dire than we've been told, it would behoove the US to acquire "bumper" territories to slow attackers and provide retaliatory force projection. If we were wxpecting Brazil and/or Venezuela to come from the south, Cuba fits that bill.

I'm also reminded of Putin telling Trump "taking Ukraine helps me more than taking Greenland will help you."
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>>17222
There is something so fucking funny about AA being droned, also a shame the wasn't a second drone for another angle for action. 
It should be quite the fireworks if it's not decoy.
>>17196
>>17201
No joke though I don't see any way that the US doesn't resume strikes against Iran by the weekend. There's no middle ground on the competing peace agreements and Trump is bored and angry that the Iran war didn't go quick. On top of that gas and groceries (and other items) continue to spike in price as summer is about to begin and midterms are only 5-ish months away.

>>17207
This is just the plot and backstory to Metal Gear.

>>17223
Well if that's so then we're fucked because Mexico exists. Really all of Central America if you think about it.
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>>17190
>Cuba
i don´t want to sound jingoistic but Cuba is an actual shithole that literally cannot keep the lights on, yes muh 56% country and the orange cheeto being incompetent and blah blah blah, but Cuba is literally a shitskin shithole and unlike Iran you can´t just make up excuses in regards to being Persians or some historical platitude

Regardless this whole "The country is going to shit on summer because rising prices" is reminding me of a similar scare in Europe, i think it was back around when nordstream wen to shit, the EU even issued some warnings on how to get a "survival kit" of sorts, maybe im just delusional but to me this is just more proof that none of these events are "Real" as in, prices aren´t rising because any organic "effect" they are rising because its planned for it to be like that, even if it happened "organically" the whole concept of a Globalized world where everyone relies on everyone else and no country truly has their own raw materials or factories is the precursor for such shortages and price spikes wich in effect would be the same as intentionally causing them
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>At first I was like, DEATH TO THE GOYIM!
<But then I was like, AACCCK I CAN'T SCHEME!
>>17211
>Impling sandniggers only refer to Ayyrabs 
Newfag.
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>>17236
Admittedly the once-great Persian men have mingled with sandniggers through the centuries -- more's the pity. But if you're trying to equivocate sub-80 IQ niggers with one of the more intelligent races on Earth today (viz; the Iranians), then you & yours are in for a rude awakening. If you're here attempting kike ((( hasbara ))), then this is obviously a very good thing! Boom Boom Telaheeb! :D
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>>17208
>War is just politics by other means
I hate how pervasive this mistranslation of Clausewitz is. A much more correct translation would be:
<war is a continuation of policy through the admixture of other means
Politics is the internal struggle for power within a government, policy is the aims of that government. War is a means to achieve those aims. War does not replace policy, it is an attempt to continue policy where normal means have failed. Clausewitz believed that it was abnormal for wars to be fought for reasons other than a clearly articulated policy, he would have blown a fuckin gasket over modern European and American irrationality in the realm of strategy. He considered war without a clear policy goal to be such base savagery that even primitive people would be unlikely to engage in it. War waged by modern democracies might be characterized as politics by other means, but that's because something has gone terribly wrong.
>it's just that it's not American politics that drives the military decisions anymore.
Immediately after articulating the point that war is a continuation of policy through the admixture of other means, he juxtaposed it by defining war differently. In that passage he says that war is nothing but a "zweikampf" which is a mashing together of the German words for "two" and "fight". His argument in that passage is that war is a real fight where both sides struggle to accomplish their ends. The other side gets a way in war. This was part of a Hegelian dialectic where the reader is supposed to synthesize these two ideas together and come to a more comprehensive understanding through the understanding of the two different seemingly contradictory natures of war.
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>Well if that's so then we're fucked because Mexico exists. Really all of Central America if you think about it.
Sure, Mexio and Canada have been sending fighting-age infiltrators for decades. This might be to dissuade them as well. I am STRONGLY reminded that James Polk wanted to draw a line east from the tip of Baja and seize everything north of it for border security's sake and yo keep Latin America on a tighter military approach vector. Hindsight is 20/20.

Central America, otoh, would (probably) mostly sit back and wait: benefit from Mexican gains if they succeed, wave the neutrality flag if they don't. Panama and Colombia make for positional/political wildcards fro the rest of CentAm.

>This is just the plot and backstory to Metal Gear.
<WAR HAS CHANGED.
*chorus of drones buzzing overhead*
>>17173
To make TDS libshits refuse to get those things and self-own, clearly.

Actually it's because he's a megalomaniac, but the above reasoning is more tempting.
>>17218
Every read Starship Troopers? The only people that could vote are the ones joining the military.
I know literacy rates are down but damn.
>>17239
For all your verbiage that's exactly what I took from the quote to begin with. And yes I know he was using the Hegalian method to try and find the perfect articulation of what war actually is. 

But in this instance I was simply using it as shorthand for the current situation.
>>17242
They'd be even lower if you gave your average squadie that much political power.
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>>17229
Are we just going to pretend Cuba hasn't been sanctioned into the shitter?
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>>17208
>War is just politics by other means
Well, that sure explains why all of these modern wars are nothingburgers of fat, old, rich men playing around with their expensive toys.
>>17242
To be more correct only people who signed up and completed military service could vote. Soldiers themselves still couldn't vote while serving. Heinlein later stated that he also intended there to be a non military path to voting in ST. Presumably because otherwise they would have to be fighting someone all the time to continually generate new citizens or in times of peace you would end up with a space chair force, neither of which would be good for the long term health of their civilization.
>>17245
are we gonna pretend Cubans aren´t mistery meat shitskins that would have fucked their country with or without sanctions?
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>>17244
im pretty shure "Only Military can vote" was something the greeks did to some extent with Citizens being both Warriors and Nobles

sage for doubleposting
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>>17244
Couldn't be lower then the current let everyone vote mantra. The original idea of land owning men, even if extended to land owners in general because muh womyn rights, is still superior to today.
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>>17254
Replacing the current system where everyone can vote with a system where only welfare queens vote is probably the only way to make the current democratic system worse.
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Gabbard cited her husband's bone cancer as the reason for her resignation and resigns effective June 30th. She also committed to facilitating the transition in office smoothly and thoroughly.

It's tempting to read into this that Gabbard was forced to resign, likely because of the Iran war, and there is no doubt she was getting sidelined and put under pressure, but the structure of it does not suggest a protest resignation (those tend to be effective immediately) and it would be against character for Trump to slowly phase her out like this if he was forcing her to resign, but it's possible that he wanted her to leave and worked out a peaceful exit. It's also possible Gabbard is sincere and tired of this job enough that she opted to look after her husband during his cancer instead of continuing her job. So far, it looks like Gabbard wasn't interested in burning bridges on the way out.
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>>17252
you are right, only white countries can flourish
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>>17256
Good analysis, Strelok. Thanks.
>>17256
>after years of being pushed out, left with stumping for the clown in chief given an option to gracefully exit as opposed to forced out
>after years of being pushed out, left with stumping for the clown in chief realizing it's not worth the shit with a spouse with cancer
Honestly I think it's both at the same time.
Also, this gives her perfect maneuvering for the next 5 years, letting her to be the adult in the room amongst both the left and right in 2032, or 2036. 2028 is already going to be a shitshow for any involved.
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>>17257
unironically yes, if not explain to me why all of them are taking the kike money and moving to the west to fuck with us
>>17259
2028 has to have a democrat win in order to placate them away from skinning Israel. Instead they'll make it a mission to spend the next 4-8 years "saving democracy" and essentially slowly eliminating Trump policies with fanfare. Of course, with the aim the flashy farce will allow Israel to get more aid unabated. The same push to make antisemitism, or rather anything mean said about Israel, more of a punishable crime.

I would hope that other countries have seen the lengths Israel gets treatment. But those countries will fall to their feet and bless the US if paid attention to again under a different administration, even if the end result of no or little useful aid besides sprrading aids through luberal programs is the result.
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What I wouldn't give to be a fly in the wall as the heads of the CCP discuss whether or not the IDF breaching a nuclear power plant qualifies as an "Israel will cease to exist" scenario.

>>17262
Hm...do you think many EU/NATO countries are rethinking their overtly pro-Zion policies atm? My take has been that the US was for Israel, so others had to be for Israel to do business with us. With China actively trying to work with the world (in their way) and Iran winning a war against the US while half asleep, that starte to fall apart. 

Doubly so when you look at the IRGC not only actively minimizing collateral damages, but trying to work with smaller states like Sri Lanka. Nobody gave a shit when India invaded them some years back AND LOST so it goes that much further in fostering regional trust.
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>>17252
Easy exit from responsibility.
>>17253
They were also city states that's soldiers were drawn from the landed educated class.
>>17263
The answer is no, kike orgs are just as heavily imbedded her as anywhere else. It's why we will always supply weapons to Israel, it's why kikes still get massive amount of politic deference here.
>>17262
All the middle east countries that had US military bases for protection noticed that they weren't protected, that it made the targets in a war that the kikes/burgers started in their backyard.
And then there's all East Asian  countries with maritime despite with China who noticed. Taiwan. South Korea. Japan. And finally China. All saw that when push cones to shove, the kikes come first. And that the war with Iran was the official reason on delaying arms to Taiwan. That even though there was a policy paper looking to retract from the middle east, pivot to he pacific, it is hilarious how quickly Trump went "know what, we don’t care about allies in Asia, kikes remain my first and only priority as the useful goy that I am".
I sincerely hope that the nascent Muslim "NATO" takes off to bring Pakistan nukes to deter the kikes. I also hope that an East Asian block emerges understanding that the US has already ditched them.
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>>17242
>Every read Starship Troopers?
Yes, and it's science fiction, an exploration of ideas, not a fucking manifesto. In the same spirit, we should aspire to become a bunch of commies star treck style
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>The original idea of land owning men [vote] 
Do foreign investors buying up land get a vote too?
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I will be honest. I took a perverse pleasure in reading cultists and hawks (eg Graham) histrionics about Trump making a "Deal" that was less then promised. Conveniently after congress decided not to vote to hold Trump accountable this past week on Iran, as the right didn't have the votes. And the new "Deal" will have both sides agree to ending the war, so that in the next two months, a new strike will kickstart a new 60 day window. 
Also don't know if the "Deal" is meant to bury the issue, so the fucker can look for a win, in either Ukraine or Cuba.
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>>17272
>a new 60 day window
Washington still imagines they can turn the war on and off at their own discretion like a light switch. The Iranians get a say, and I don't think they'll agree to another ceasefire no matter how much pressure the Chinese put on them. I don't think the Russians will pressure them at all, and might even try to counterbalance Chinese pressure.
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>>17268
Im sure that video of Gaddafi's attempted "Arab League" is making the rounds in muslim social media right now. Its haunting to see him describing Saddam's death at western hands with legitimate outrage, when the camera cuts to Bashar al-Assad of all people laughing it off like a dumb child. 

I think you're right in that the future might look less like the hard and fast "East vs West" that eere used to and more like multiple large economic blocks, not unlike a Risk board. It would be interesting to see if Oceania holds to the Anglosphere or tries to slide into the ASEAN bloc.
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>>17272
The issue is that the House and Senate need individually 2/3rds support to override any veto. A vote with even 1 less vote from either the House or Senate is a symbolic vote as Trump will veto it. The majority of the republicans in Congress are scared of Trump and are reduced to yes men in hopes of being supported in their elections given the fervor the MAGA crowd has for those going against emperor Trump.
>>17269
>Do foreign investors buying up land get a vote too?
Well the original intent of this dying republic was for citizens, plus the other restrictions, only to vote.
>>17273
Fact of the matter is Iran has the US over a barrel but Bibi has Trump over one as well. 
>>17274
The big problem with Oz and NZ is they're currently being flooded with Indians. If they do stay anglo aligned it will be after a fair bit of turmoil.
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>End of regional war on all fronts, including Lebanon.
>Freeing several billions of dollars of Iran's frozen assets.
>Lifting the U.S. naval blockade.
>Opening the Strait of Hormuz under ‘Iranian management’ (unclear if there will be tolls)
>Withdrawal of the majority of American forces from the Middle East.
ART OF THE DEAL
>>17283
When is "shortly"? Also 100% chance there will be another "surprise" bombing before or shortly heh after then.
>>17279
>Oz and NZ is they're currently being flooded with Indians
Outside of maybe some places in the caribbean, that's the case with the entire Commonwealth, including historical anglo clay. Decades of immigration policy led to this disaster.
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>>17283
Gee, I wonder how Israel is going to sabotage this.
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>>17286
Kind of think that it has already been  sabotaged. Namely, US/Iran will sign whatever, but the kiks won't move from Lebanon, as destroying nearby Christians is just as important as destroying Muslims.  "Greater Isreal" in practice, not just theory. There's been no real repercussions for their shit in Palestine. What is Trump going to do, sanction the kikes? Stop money flowing to the kikes? He's a spiritual kike where the only hope is that his own narcissism, and all his ego projects being potentially trashed this year because of his antics will make him pause, and behave like an adult.
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>>17285
The recent intensity of the migration is artificial however and all the usual players are involved.
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>>17283
It looks like Trump is actually leaning into doing what I half jokingly suggested that he ought to do. >>15954


>>17287
The only hope for this lasting would be for Trump signaling Israel and Iran that the US will not intervene after this point if they only fire missiles at each other and it's totally on them whether they make peace or blast each other to rubble. It's inconceivable that an American president, let alone Trump, would stick to that but who knows. Maybe Trump has just gotten so sick an tired of the whole thing and has decided to wash his hands of it.

If it's genuine and Trump intends for it to hold, even when it comes to the very contentious nuclear material issue then both the Neocons and the Israelis are going to be fucking pissed. Israel in particular is going to play all kinds of dirty tricks to try and draw the US back into fighting or if that fails to punish Trump or the US in general for "betraying" them.
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>>17290
>It looks like Trump is actually leaning into doing what I half jokingly suggested that he ought to do.
Zognald is personally lurking this thread, and is looking to us Streloks for global advice. Clearly.  :^)
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>>17291
Knowing how government agencies use imageboards for information gathering, it wouldn't surprise me if he was.
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>>17292
This place is the greatest. It's just the best. It's a high energy board full of world-class people. These are some smart guys, and I should know.
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>>17293
jej
>>17290
Bibi would tell Trump his plans of Gaza would fall through and they would ban his wannabe kike daughter from visiting Israel. There is absolutely no evidence Trump would abandon Israel, the pro Israel goyim are the only voting bloc still happy with him.
As for the deal itself, this is the equivalent of being allowed more time to pay on a loan you are at risk of defaulting. Trump has no means of saying no to Israel and is stuck in an impossible situation. It seems he rather keep the war in an infinite stasis to prevent the inevitable endless war or US surrender.
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>>17298
>Bibi would tell Trump his plans of Gaza would fall through and they would ban his wannabe kike daughter from visiting Israel.
Waitwat, Drumpf speaks with the dead now too?

>the pro Israel goyim are the only voting bloc still happy with him
Very true, I think.

>keep the war in an infinite stasis to prevent the inevitable endless war or US surrender.
That's probably what was ((( agreed ))) upon (reluctantly by the kikes present) during that "long night" at the WH last Friday.
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>>17299
>Waitwat, Drumpf speaks with the dead now too?
Always did.
>>17299
>Drumpf speaks with the dead now too?
It is incredibly funny to see the psyop machine in full throttle trying to convince people that Satanyahoo is still alive.
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>>17301
It's funnier when people see through it.
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>>17303
Lol. Could they have at all picked any more rat-like a visage of the ((( spokesman ))) for the murder of Christians in Lebanon?

Their footage & tactics are both improving. Fibre is best.
>>17303
Pure kino.
>found a command post
wew
>>17299
Drumpf speaks to the 6 million killed by the Nahzees in the Holocaust every day, why else would he be so devoted to the cause :^)
>>17303
Beautiful kike clean up crew.
The whole problem with this war is trump. Nothing can get done with his constant back and forth.
Ah. So it was just enough of a statement to placate the markets. But nothing has changed.
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>the US is carrying out "defensive" strikes around Hormuz
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>>17311
Yes, and they apparently got bitchslapped,
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>>17312
I like how the US goes to other peoples' countries and carries out "defensive attacks". It would be like breaking into your neighbor's house and shooting at them in "self defense." Even fucking yellowjackets aren't that aggressive.
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>>17311
>>17312
Just think. I was hoping for a small reprieve in gas prices this week. How foolish I have been.
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>>17314
Fucking blue sky dreamer over here.
>>17313
Just call what it is: Jewish behavior. The more you focus on that angle, the more damage you'll do.
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The trolling continues
>we don't have tolls
>we have an environmental protection fee

>absolute poker face
... it is trolling right?

Marco Rubio is not amused
>>17311
Just a love tap, anon.
>>17313
Yes it is self defense, if you go to a nigger's house and kill the whole family.
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>>17319
>We are not looking to charge fees
>These require fees
wew
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Time to die for Israeal, fellow weebs.
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>>17319
Rabio looks stressed out
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>>17323
I know that's a zogbot, but that's still pretty cool nonetheless.
>>17323
>join the army goy
>make funny and cute war videos with your favorite plushie
>ignore the fact modern war is hell
Nah thanks
>>17319
LMAO. Begun the Troll Wars has.
>>17320
>Yes it is self defense, if you go to a nigger's house and kill the whole family.
I like you're are creative approach solution to a vexing problem tbh!
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>>17329
Problem is it's not your neighbor. You're going to a foreign land to kill the nigger on behalf of a kike "friend". Who keeps blackmailing you. And keeps demanding money. Because you are such great friends. Actual self-defense would be targetting the kike who keeps dragging you into fights with niggers.
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>>17330
>3-digit iq problem solving
>>17330
Just so. The most appropriate solution to all this by far IMHO.
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>>17333
It's still weird to see early Ukraine/Russia videos with a more Arabian aesthetic being distributed today.
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>>17334
>It's still delightful*
FTFY Strelok. These are kikes getting droned by the Chadsbollah we're talking about here, right? Big difference.
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>>17335
The fact that one side managed to learn modern war, while the other did not is still surprising. Even if the latter are rats.
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>>17336
I'm sure both Russia & China are contributing know-how to the Iranians + cohorts. While all the yids can rely on is the ever-devolving DIE entourage from Burger.
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>>17333
Apparently they decided to do the extended remix on this one.
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>>17333
watching kikes get mulched will never get old.
>>17317
>Just call what it is: Jewish behavior. The more you focus on that angle, the more damage you'll do.
Reminds me of my mom. She is spiritually Jewish. While I was growing up, one of her tactics for trying to groom me into being a fellow pervert was to occasionally quiz me on sketchy happenings in movies, and Hollywood news, as they happened before us, by pretending she didn't notice what was going on and then asking me what just happened. One day, after I learned about the Jews, she asked me if I know who Horward Stern is. I said "A Jewish pervert." She stopped immediately what she was doing and looked at me with a blank stare for several seconds, while I stared back, before she silently walked away. She has never given me one of those Hollywood quizzes since then lol.
She is still spiritually Jewish though. And in her retirement she is suffering one of the most miserable existences in mind, body, and soul, anyone could have in a "first" world nation. It's so bad that I wouldn't wish it on my enemy. But not for peace. But because if I hated someone that much, then I would wish for them to be dead and then move on with my life. And it's all her own fault. I don't care about her excuses about growing up hellishly abused. I've caught her in so many lies, and things which might not be lies but still don't make sense, that I doubt she has fully told the truth about her past in anything. And for that I see her as an example of "A Jew will tell you he was hit. But never why he was hit."
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>>17340
Good on you, Anon. Breaking away from family infected with mindrot is difficult to do, but absolutely necessary for your own mental halth and prosperity.
>>17338
>They didn't see the drone
Holy shit!
>>17330
I guess you can extend the self-defense by going into the kike's house and killing him and his family after killing the nigger family next door.
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>>17340
When I said it's "Jewish behavior" that wasn't what I had in mind. Jews are the type to unironically think that killing a baby before it becomes an adult is a legitimate form of self-defense because the baby could grow up to become an enemy. To the Jewish mind, killing anything that could become a threat is self-defense.
>>17346
No. The kike holds a dead man trigger to blow up your house, your family with the "Samson option". The kike and the (sand)nigger are over an ocean away. The (sand)nigger is not a threat, but just hates you because you keep flying over oceans to kill family. Yes he might be a threat to the kike, but not you. Self-defense remains only with dealing with the kike who is actually threatening you physically and through other means. 
AKA nuke "Isreal". Negotiate with the musselmen. Only path to forward.
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>>17349
Samson Option is an old yiddish wife's tale now. It holds no weight no matter how you examine it. Assuming all their nuclear arsenal has been maintained, it's already established that the logistics require their threat to be on submarines, of which their navy is already researched.

If the threat was actually real and carried out, it'd be an enormous benefit to the European White West (their greatest adversary), besides the casus belli offered to systematically erase every last member of the jewish diaspora (since kikeland itself would be wiped off the face of the earth immediately) around the globe.

People who fear-monger about the Samson Option always forget too that Pakistan and other major undesirables already have nuclear weapons, so the whole threaten the whole world thing is old and tired.
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>>17350
Picrel very much related.
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>>17350
Number one post of the day. The kikes can't do shit.
>>17350
Yeah the underlying point though is it would be about punishing countries for not coming to their aid in an existential climate. If they reckon they're wiped anyway they may just do it to punish the goyim. 

That said between their ICBM stockpile and the fact most of the rest are tactical cruise missile based assets it really would not be as crippling as people think.
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>>17351
The one point you're missing is that the Sampson Option isn't really pointed at all of us per se as much as it's pointed at all the world leaders and elites. In the event of a major civilization ending/crippling event all of us commoners that survived would be able to regroup and rebuild even if we had to start from nothing. The rich politicians and elites don't wan to loose all of their power and their fun shit in a nuclear conflagration. Even if they all head into survival bunkers there's no guarantee that they'd ever be able to reassert control afterwards. All of their industrial base, surveillance infrastructure, international banking, and most of their military would be just fucking gone or at least out of their hands. They'd just be nobodies on remote islands with admittedly a cushy survival setup. But they don't want to live a life of just comfying out somewhere, if they did they'd be doing it right now and they'd not be a bother to the world. What they want is power and control.
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>"Samson Option"
>ACTUAL nuclear stockpile is pitifully inadequate for glassing the world
>typically Israel makes heavy use of infiltration, misdirection
>agents worldwide, not uncommonly in high-clearsnce roles
>leave your stockpile as is, agents hit everybody elses Big Red Buttons to kick off armageddon
<Samson tore down the temple from WITHIN the temple
>>17358
While fair, I'd like to point out Jews barely have any loyalty to each other. What >>17357 says is likely closer to the truth as blackmail, death threats, and "mutual interests" are the main things holding their society together.
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>>17319
No, it's an attempt to placate members of the international community that are deeply concerned about an international precedent of maritime tolling vital straits by framing it under a different paradigm.

Look up what a lot of people with vested interests in the Strait of Malacca have to say about Hormuz tolling. Most of them have no quarrel with Iran but are very concerned about international strait tolling becoming a thing.
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>>17364
Should have thought of that before this genie was unbottled. Honestly unless they're going to go after Iran themselves their best option is to pressure the US into peace and sort out some sort of alternative reparations package to placate Iran. Maybe get the US to pay.
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>>17366
You have an easier time threatening Israel into peace than their puppet.
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>>17367
No that's just how you get all your politicians killed in a series of unrelated pager explosions.
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More than anything I think Malaysia and Indonesia will be more desperate for oil than anything else in a few months.
>>17368
And you think the goodest of goys are going to break away from the war?
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>>17370
Probably won't have a choice by the end of the year.
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>>17371
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/component/content/article/eight-weeks-to-empty-shelves-sixty-days-to-famine-what-caused-it-and-what-you-need-to-do-immediately?catid=17&Itemid=101
Try 1 month from now and even then I doubt it.
>>17372
If it gets that bad I could see Europe pressuring Ukraine and Russia for a freeze to the conflict just to keep a stable flow of oil.
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>>17372
Interesting read we'll see if these dire predicts prove overblown.
>>17372
I appreciate having exact dates for when everything goes to shit overnight. And they better go to shit overnight. A week at most. Because if they don't, then I will know all of this war, from its beginning to end, was never for anybody an existential struggle that steers history. But it was rather your standard manufactured crisis for cattle driving the peasants. A "miracle" deal that saves the West just in time will tell me the same thing.

And if there is no happening, good or bad, after the given dates, then I will not listen to excuses saying "Oh yes. But this is just the start. It will take a few more months for the disaster to really kick in! =^)" Anybody who wants to tell me that can take their bullshit and shove it in and out of their ass repeatedly. I wouldn't care about how many certifications and accolades they have on the subject.
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>>17358
>agents hit everybody elses Big Red Buttons to kick off armageddon
Nah. The kike's true (and only, really) weapon is the petrodollar. There aren't that many kikes in the entire world, much less in 'high places' in other govts. What's the cost of a 9mm shell, maybe 30 cents? Minor cost to address this problem right at it's source (starting with the Fed, I'd predict). Let the rest of them deal in the real world.
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>if we kill one more, Iran will fall in 24h
>trust the plan
delusional as always 
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>>17375
I take the numbers with a grain of salt because if it is true, then they will do everything in their power to avoid those circumstances even if it means cutting off Europe and forcing rationing.
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>>17357
>The one point you're missing is that the Sampson Option isn't really pointed at all of us per se as much as it's pointed at all the world leaders and elites.
All of those 'world leaders' are ZOG-loving pedophiles residing in hubs stuffed to the brim with kikes, shitskins, and niggers. I return to my original argument of it being a net good, assuming all of it is true and not a magical yiddish tale. No point was missed. I heard your explanation before, long before my points were posted years ago. It never survives a debate. They don't have enough arsenal to kill all conventional leaders, never mind all the freshly uprising true leaders that will take over their respective nations.

>>17358
<my sneaky mossad crabs will take over every country's missile silos, exactly before and after we're losing our borders!
I doubt it. It's even more far-fetched. The absolute lowest of shit-eating nations, jeetlandia and pakiland, have nuclear weapons already if we believe modern nuclear weapons technology is still a real thing (I have my doubts, feels exactly like the lost tech missing in every field where Europeans have disappeared such as space tech). Jews have excelled as a mimicry parasite species in the realms of early propaganda and religion, but they remain a 93 IQ imitation sandnigger on a biology level. Europeans didn't have a good evolved defense against this, but that power base and weakness is rapidly crumbling. The only type of comparable parasite in human history was the Manchus in ancient China, which managed to infiltrate despite being about 0.5% of that nation's population.
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>>17377
Wait, didn't the Pakis tell them that if they killed the negotiator that they'd have no people left to negotiate with?
>>17373
Implying the euros have any power on ukraine let alone russia.
>>17377
Doit.webm
>>17377
At this point Iran should just insist to do negotiations over video call.
>>17378
Depends how incompetent or malicious all our leaders are.
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>>17387
They quite literally outsource their competence.
I'm predicting a happening on 6/22/2026 because we are lead by faggots.

>>17372
Grim. I'm thinking international tech hasn't been"expanding" their AI sectors, but hoarding processors for when the supply chain stops. Not to mention the $20 trillion bunker network. 

Although >>17375 raises a good point: we've seen multiple successive generations getting high on doomsday bullshit, there's a chance this is more fear mongering to distract from something more shitty or to string us along by our stress. There's also apparently ZERO disruption to chemtrail missions I've seen recently, take that as you will.

>>17360
>>17376
>>17379
Ah, see, that's the beauty of it....if the bonbs start lifting off most actors would be too caught up in the immediate threat to properly investigate the launches while sending retaliatory strikes.
>>17372
>The permanent closure of one certain waterway will singlehandedly cause a global famine.
Smells like another The Shemitah fraud to me. Nevertheless everyone ought to have an emergency kit that lasts a few months anyway. Regardless of any possible imminent global catastrophe.
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>>17393
>Nevertheless everyone ought to have an emergency kit that lasts a few months anyway. Regardless of any possible imminent global catastrophe.
/thread
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>>17394
Currently the only thing I am missing is water.
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>>17393
I think the point is made that if global supply falls below global demand then the overall cumulative effect will be famine. I'll hit poor nations far harder but food inflation is already a problem here that the government is trying to manage.
>>17395
That's literally the single most vital element. Best get to it, Strelok. Be sure to rotate your stocks. GL.
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>>17401
Probably mistook her for a troop transport. Easy mistake.
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>>17411
Given the US might have to unfreeze other Iranian funds, this might just be an attempt to create more funds that can be frozen at will later.
>>17411
He killed the Christians in Iran. That was the more important goal.
>>17411
Keeeeeeeeeek called it, tariffing the strait was always going to be a none starter.
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>>17411
>calls it a reconstruction find
<This one means you are paying for damages.

>clarifies as an international "investment fund"
<This one means you expect money to come back.

Sonovabitch is going to tank the negotiations thinking the Persians don't know the difference. All while this conflict might have kicked off LORD KNOWS how many other conflicts around the world once resources become scarce. This 9001% confirms that we live in clown world.
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>>17414
But baste Iran has already raked in billions of Yuan, fren.
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>>17417
From the few willing to pay sure and that is also a coup for China but like I said it was always a none starter and the onus was always going to fall on the US to fix the fucking problem after making it. 

Lets be honest they couldn't do it militarily without basically gutting out all their other commitments and every fucking player knew it. How much manpower and material are you willing to spend Trump can you stomach that becoming your Ukraine, is that even sustainable for the US as this point? 

Even if the strait fully opens tomorrow the economic damage is done and will reverberate for at least 5 years, probably a lot longer.
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>>17420
Between the AI sector taking every resource to "green" policies destroying industry, oil and natural gas prices are only another drop in the bucket.
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>>17423
Not when it is the root of the world economy it's not.
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>>17419
>damaged
As in "the surface of the sea damaged the big drone into pieces upon impact"?

>>17420
>From the few willing to pay sure
So, every single one that has made their way out since Iran enacted this policy?

>the le military solution
Short of dozens of the big nukes turning the place into an utter wasteland, no lol. And if yidsrael lobs even one into Persia, that will be the end for the kikes.

Iran has already won strategically, regardless the number of boots Blumpf puts on the ground.
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>>17423
>>17424
Consider for a moment:
>In 1973, the Arab oil embargo disrupted roughly 8 percent of global supply. Prices quadrupled. It took five months to resolve.

 

>In 1979, the Iranian Revolution disrupted roughly 7 percent. Prices doubled. The effects lasted years.

 

>In 1990, Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait disrupted roughly 7 percent. Prices doubled. A coalition formed and resolved it in six months.

 

>In 2022, Russia's invasion of Ukraine disrupted roughly 3 percent of supply. Prices spiked 60 percent.

 

>In 2026, the Hormuz closure has disrupted 15 to 20 percent of global supply. Physical oil has already hit $144 per barrel. This is three times the Kuwait disruption. Twice the 1973 embargo. And unlike 1973, OPEC cannot respond because OPEC's own members are locked behind the blockade. Unlike 1990, there is no quick coalition solution because the damage is physical and structural, not just political.

I'm not sure if it is really clear to most people how bad it is if true. We are quite possibility looking at an event bad enough to destroy all of ZOG and create an opportunity to ensure the freedom of the West from Globohomo. It is quite sincerely an economic apocalypse worse than the Great Depression.
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>>17427
>We are quite possibility looking at an event bad enough to destroy all of ZOG and create an opportunity to ensure the freedom of the West from Globohomo.
My body is ready.
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>>17428
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/watch?v=Ni2wJo7fKBA&listen=false
Here's another white pill.
>>17429
Those effects are answer to prayer. Thanks, Strelok.
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>>17430
Remember to organize friend. This might be the only chance we get.
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>>17425
>So, every single one that has made their way out since Iran enacted this policy?
You mean the few dozen compared to the hundreds that used to transit then yes.

And no the US might be able to win conventionally but at the cost of tens of thousands of lives. I'm sure the Pentagon has projections that Trump is well aware of. More than anything I don't think the US could maintain the high tempo conflict that would be necessary to break Iran initially anyway. Just not enough industry left for basic shit like RDX for bomb and shell production.

Even then who wants another 2 decade long insurgency to deal with so you can pack another couple thousand into caskets?
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>>17433
I'll believe it when I see it and since Hezbollah is now drone equipped we should see very soon.
>>17434
>And no the US might be able to win conventionally but at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.
They can throw literally every single cock-slobbering DIE infestation they have at it, and they will not win against Iran that way.

>couple thousand
A couple of million wouldn't suffice, and the NPC public will pull the plug on it all long before then.
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>>17401
Heckin' chonkike
>>17433
Big if true.
>>17433
I don't think Israel operates any Mi-28s.
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>>17434
> the US might be able to win conventionally but at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.
How do you expect that to work? Like I keep hearing people say that but I never hear an actual plan to go along with that evaluation. Occasionally people bring up the idea of a WW2 style ground invasion with a massive conscript army, but how the hell would you even get that army to Iran, much less keep them sustained during the years of brutal mountain warfare on the other side of the planet. The whole notion that the US could launch a ground invasion of Iran seems Luigi Cadorna tier.
>>17441
>Occasionally people bring up the idea of a WW2 style ground invasion with a massive conscript army, but how the hell would you even get that army to Iran, much less keep them sustained during the years of brutal mountain warfare on the other side of the planet.
How would they even keep them from revolting? We are already seeing the US Navy having problems with "laundry fires," I could only imagine how the soldiers would respond to that.
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>>17443
>I could only imagine how the soldiers would respond to that.
They will respond with marching in iran with a smile on their faces.
For Israel.
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>>17444
I certainly hope that's sarcasm for as retarded as the goycattle are, they will not tolerate that and will dodge the draft if not flat out revolt.
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>>17441
By pulling all your assets from every other theatre tbh and concentrating the bulk of America's conventional forces. Even then I'm not pretending the opening wouldn't have something insane like a 70% casualty rate. 

That being said I am only talking about defeating the conventional forces of Iran and even then if you read closely I was sceptical that the US could sustain operations long enough to actually achieve an actual defeat rather than a conventional quagmire and even then it would just turn into an insurgent quagmire. 

I'm sure Trump was again told all this by the joint chiefs so he thought he would be smart and just bomb them to cover a covert operation to steal the uranium and you can see how that went.
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Reality is could the US do conventionally yeah, would it be anything but pyrrhic victory even if they did pull it off no.
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Then again after waiting this long I'm not sure the US armed forces could scrape together enough fuel anymore.
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>>17448
See >>17429
They definitely don't.
>>17429
Hardly an issue for the military. Even if they were trained, US troops are not prepared for guerilla drone warfare.
>>17448
That also is of no consequence. The US can and will prioritize military assets over civilian and so gas stations will run dry before the military does. It has been a while since they went to the lengths of WW2 and rationed everything, but they could always use a large enough war to justify it.
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>By pulling all your assets from every other theatre tbh and concentrating the bulk of America's conventional forces.
Okay, so step one is pull them out of every other theater, and step two is concentrate them. But where do you concentrate them? Where do you land all the forces for this campaign? This isn't shit you can just gloss over. The Iranians have demonstrated the ability to strike everywhere in the middle east.
>Even then I'm not pretending the opening wouldn't have something insane like a 70% casualty rate. 
I think a 70% casualty rate for those first two steps is being generous, it'd probably be higher. How do you get the surviving 30% of those forces to Iran, and how do you conquer the country with that ragged and battered force?
>That being said I am only talking about defeating the conventional forces of Iran
And I'm only talking about even getting to that fight at all.
>then if you read closely I was sceptical that the US could sustain operations long enough to actually achieve an actual defeat rather than a conventional quagmire
And I'm beyond skeptical that they can even reach the point of fighting Iran's conventional forces. I genuinely can't even see a path to it.
>even then it would just turn into an insurgent quagmire. 
You're glossing over so many steps to even be considering that problem that I don't think it's productive to think about it. Any sequence of events which brought you to the stage of defeating Iran's conventional military and taking control of the country would be so unusual that they would definitely radically shape the nature of the events that come after them.
>told all this
Told all what? You haven't articulated how it's supposed to work. Tell me what port the US forces would stage at, tell me what route they'd take to reach Iran once they were staged. Without working out how they'd actually fucking get there we can't even start talking about how the war to actually defeat Iran would look.
>>17447
>Reality is could the US do conventionally yeah
HOW?????
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>>17451
>HOW???
NTA, but my reading of his text was that he was saying, conventionally-speaking, if the US pulled ALL their assets from other countries, wars, and projects--and convinced (temporarily) the general populace and military leadership that this was a brilliant plan, they could win (at the catastrophic loss of everything else that the US values on a geopolitical, domestic, and international level). I don't see anything wrong with that statement.
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>my reading of his text was that he was saying, conventionally-speaking, if the US pulled ALL their assets from other countries, wars, and projects--and convinced (temporarily) the general populace and military leadership that this was a brilliant plan, they could win
That was also my reading. The problem is that it skips over the crucial steps of actually getting there and fighting the entire fucking war in the answer to the question of "how?".
>I don't see anything wrong with that statement.
So you don't see any problems with it then walk me through how you think it'd work. Tell me what port the US forces would offload at, where they would stage, and what route they'd take from their staging area to reach Iran. That'd at least get us through the first step. Then we can move on to step two, which is defeating a million man army who are on the defensive in mountainous terrain which is their home turf.
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>>17447
They are unable of concentrating forces before the strike, the bases are rekt, any ship that tries to get close will get rekt too and they cannot get enough planes to form an opening due to again, airstrips being an open shooting gallery and insufficent carrier capacity. They have already tried this. Its literally impossible at this point.
>>17453
>So you don't see any problems with it then walk me through how you think it'd work. Tell me what port the US forces would offload at, where they would stage, and what route they'd take from their staging area to reach Iran. That'd at least get us through the first step. Then we can move on to step two, which is defeating a million man army who are on the defensive in mountainous terrain which is their home turf.

Listen, I hate the ZOG-dominated United States of Israel more than fucking anyone else. I'm also aware of Iran not being a bunch of towel-heads as judeo-western propaganda has tried painting them as for 50 years. I'm not letting this loathing and hatred of an adversary cloud my judgment of their strengths, however.

We ARE talking about the United States, which stands as the single most funded military on the planet with their defense budget, even accounting for rival countries such as the Chinese notoriously burying their defense budget numbers. The 2+ million military personnel, not including mercenaries, is not something to toss aside. 

Would it be retarded and suicidal? Yes. Would it lead to a collapse in all other sectors for the most part? Yes. Could it actually be done, if truly willed to do so? I think that's another yes. It would cost everything else, but it could be done. The U.S. military's definition of winning has traditionally been converting a state into an ally (puppet state slave) after building them up again. If it foregoes this definition and strategy, instead doing what every other military defines as victory (devastation of a country, wiping out all leadership, and holding with an iron grip until everything is destroyed), then yes, I do think they can do this.

I'm personally hoping the U.S. does it, so an inevitable collapse on the world stage can occur, along with devastation of domestic law enforcement and military capability so that the United States as a country can be destroyed from within, before a new nation forms, but that's a different topic and matter.
>>17451
>I genuinely can't even see a path to it.
Doesn't have to be realistic, and I'm sure its a Plan Z somewhere in the Pentagon. But nuking the top 10-20 cities takes out the majority of Iran's population. The rest would be too dispondent and disorganized with the immediate bombing campaign to take put residuals. Maybe bunker buster nukes on the missile cities for good measure.
The 50k or so US troops currently in the middle east would only be able to at best take a foothold far away from the populated centers, unless the US has a plan to remove those population centers.
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>stage false flag attack on American contractors/personnel implicating Russia
>overstaff every EU base with combat personnel
>fill ever airbase with every C-130 you can
>(EES MASKYROVKA, SHH!)
>as this happens, civilian contractors in Afghanistan, Qatar, Bahrain,bIsrael, Saudi Arabia install new weather control equipment under the guise of "rebuilding"
>whip up thunderstorms in the Med, Indian ocean headed towards Iran
>JSLs cause "spontaneous fires" in essential facilities, military bases, populous areas just before losing visibility
>immediately after, make storms converge into a fuckhueg hurricane locking down emergency services
>turn extra humidity into pea soup
>C-130s  were flying immediately behind hurricane with EU cadre
>C-130s drop half a million men around Iran, sow absolute havoc in the fog, set up a few beachheads
>for extra dab points, have US ships look to pull away from Hormuz because of the weather, then pull a u-turn right as Hurricane Donald hits
>ground forces' main focus is locking down IRGC anti air and seizing (and FLIPPING) drone production facilities
>C-130s make a continuous assembly line-style dumping of men with no rhyme or reason to confuse the ratiinalist Persian mind
>occasionally dump literal garbage over cities to clog streets
>ignore uranium
>build big beautiful ballroom. the best. really. i really think it is. the best I mean. there are other ballrooms but not like this one. really.
>???
>Profit

I call it "Operation 90 degrees Normandy." The dumbest, most wasteful invasion I can think up at 2am because a) you asked how it could work three times now and b) im reminded how often other IBs claim that zzz is loaded with feds, so in the off chance that youre from Eggy AFB and its  all so fucked you have to poke internet spergs for strategic advice, I can technically say im performing my civic duty 

God Bless America. (@_@)7

BATTLE THEME
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>>17458
I LIKE THIS PLAN, SOLDIER!

Let's go with it. I'll inform the Joint Chiefs. Now pardon me while I phone the President with the good news.
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Sorry about my earlier silliness, Streloks. >>17433

Hopefully this will help make up for it.
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>>17441
As much as luigi sucked as a general. He would be perfect for the current state of Weimerica. He would send zogbots to their deaths and give us russia and ukriane tier drone videos. Trump is retarded coward who has lost all his steam and needs to step down.
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>>17458
Every imageboard claims the other is loaded with feds, at this point I'm sure it's feds on all imageboards accusing other imageboards of being loaded with feds.
>>17461
>Trump is retarded coward who has lost all his steam and needs to step down
Fuck that. I want Trump to stay in power long enough for everything to collapse.
>>17455
>I'm personally hoping the U.S.
Same, normalfags dying in 4K is always fun.
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>We ARE talking about the United States, which stands as the single most funded military on the planet with their defense budget, even accounting for rival countries such as the Chinese notoriously burying their defense budget numbers. The 2+ million military personnel, not including mercenaries, is not something to toss aside. 
Okay, so answer my fucking questions. What port would they land at? How would they get from that port to Iran? You're not even thinking through the very first steps.
>Could it actually be done, if truly willed to do so? I think that's another yes.
I don't think it can be done. You need to tell me how they'd actually do it.
>>17458
Thank you for your cervix. I'm going to keep asking until one of these retards gives me an answer though. The idea that the US just can because the US is so tough ignores the fact that the US can't fucking get to the fight in the first place.
>>17461
I think that Pete Hogsbreath would probably give ol' Luigi a run for his money if given the same amount of complete control over the army. Here's my imaginary war he'd wage if he were given as much power as Luigi got over the Italian army:
>try to seize Kharg island with a couple MEUs
>lose all of them
>declare victory
>send all remaining marines to storm the beaches of Baluchistan
>seize or construct an airfield somewhere and bring in the rangers too
>lose all of them
>declare victory
>send all of the Army's mechanized and armored divisions to Jeddah in Saudi
>lose about 3% before they even reach port
>lose another 6% to missile and drone strikes while they are unloading at port
>lose about 20% while staging near Mecca (he'd assume that the Iranians wouldn't strike near Mecca for religious reasons)
>form up into a big derp convoy to drive through Saudi to Kuwait and then up into Iran
>lead element gets hit by a drone or missile about a hundred miles into the desert
>massive traffic jam
>zogbots get the highway of death treatment
>declare victory
>conscript two million zoomers
>land them in Israel
>try to have them drive through Jordan then Iraq to reach Iran
>convoy of barely trained tik tok twenty somethings loses cohesion before even reaching Baghdad
>videos of American kids wandering around aimlessly in Iraq getting rekt by drones force me to create entire new folders to sort them into
>declare victory 
>die of liver failure
>>17465
lol. you come across as a fed.
>kikes are more belligerent in Lebanon 
I swear that's the real reason Trump hasn't signed yet.
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>>17467
More drone footage for me tbh.
>>17465
Doomstacks in Iraq and Pakistan, spam every F-15 in your inventory and use Paratroopers to help with tactical encirclements innamountains.
Just remember to put enough factories on trucks, AA and transports along with maximizing infrastructure+stability focuses and the logistics will solve themselves :^)

.....federally mandated shitposting aside, my personal brain damaged perspective is that a land campaign in Iran is physically unfeasible and politically suicidal thanks to the complete lack of war support on the home front in combination with growing diplomatic isolation thanks to Dup's excellent negotiation skills and a fucked economy that wasn't as fucked before the war but now is in the process of crashing with no survivors still suspended by financial engineering though the wreckage long stopped being airworthy.
No matter how many farts Jensen and Peter sniff in their Zoom calls with the President AI surveillance cameras for tracking cars with or without a license plate can't fix a thousand simultaneous Ruby Ridges and Wacos in response to a general draft, nor could they make the moderately peaceful Libertarian Syndicalists and their Naxalite QBoomer allies climbing the fence at the White House with tacit approval from the SS change their minds.
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>>17465
>What port would they land at?
All of them, yes even the ones in caspain sea.
Send all NATO forces on Iran, also sandniggers for shit and giggles, one to liberate Iran and bring democracy on the lands, and second to to finally train on drone warfare live in Iran.
6 millions will die, but its either that or releasing the child paradise island files.
>>17455
>single most funded military
Money != quality
US has very expensive toys but the price tag doesn't remotely match their value.
>The 2+ million military personnel
Quantity is meaningless if you don't have any way to bring them without being spotted and destroyed from a long range. Modern weaponry has too much range and is too precise even on the "budget" end.
If the US was able to disable Iran's long-range weaponry it might be possible but that task failed miserably. I'm pretty sure that's the reason things seem a bit slow now: Plan A failed and the US doesn't have other options.

I can think of only two ways the USA might still destroy Iran:
1. Nukes. Assuming the US still has functional delivery systems.
2. Destroy everyone's satellite network to ensure Iran is blinded.

Another alternative is to rebuild the industrial base they deliberately gutted out over many decades, but that will take forever and it doesn't seem there is any serious willpower to do that.
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>>17459
SIR, YES SIR! 
HAPPY TO DO MY PART, SIR!
*scrubbing toilet with toothbrush*

>>17465
Im driving a Vulva? Truth be told, my shitpost started as an honest action plan but I got tired and whimsical as I was typinh. I think the thing to do is to secure air supremacy and drop your forces in while ignoring ports very specifically because of the slogo f approaching, engagement, THEN landing, THEN offloading, TGEN securing what miniscule cover exists for the ~5% of your starting force. It's retarded to assume the Marines are "just gonna" take something with the worst possible support "somehow." streamlined WWII tactics with new toys and cool names and wifi are still WWII tactics.

Could some losses be mitigated by sea? maybe, if the US has been quietly investing in a shadow fleet ofmassive landing subs but weve seen neither hide nor hair of them. As such, air insertion remains the most reasonable means pf approach. 

Something we might not see (esp with Pete Shedcuck in charge) is a partial or even complete departure of vehicles in a frontline role. You touched on that in jest, but i can see it coming into play irl. the IDF hasn't pulled their Merkavas back to a mobile artillery role OR started using IFVs as taxi/ground medevac OR  stripped down their humvees fir fast fire team taxiing; ALL of which have become commonplace for both sides of the Ukraine war and have been for some time. The US absolutely would make the same mistakes (if were not already and we just aren't allowed to know). Meanwhile, a mostly infantry force can spread out, hide, and (mabye) shoot down drones in response. 

>send all remaining marines to storm the beaches of Baluchistan
This is one of the biggest fuckups of the whole thing. "We armed 40,000 dudes with guns and theyre all dead now." why didn't you land Marines AS SOON AS the locals were armed and ready? AND to secure the one coastal province OUTSIDE OF FARSI THERMOPOLAE?

>>17433
Yhis just got me thinking: there were those multiple dubious vids of an IDF airlift where they shot down a drone...is it possible that they're reporting on the same incident? Could the JIDF have intercepted the real feed and made an AI video where the drone was shot down, to save face?
>>17472
>Yhis just got me thinking: there were those multiple dubious vids of an IDF airlift where they shot down a drone...is it possible that they're reporting on the same incident? Could the JIDF have intercepted the real feed and made an AI video where the drone was shot down, to save face?
Let's see that video.
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>>17474
What bill is this?
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>>17474
It would be way easier to oppose this if we what the fuck it is talking about.
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>>17416
>Sonovabitch is going to tank the negotiations thinking the Persians don't know the difference.
There won't be much of a difference between a gift and a loan if Iran's government doesn't pay any of it back. Sometimes the US deliberately does "loans" this way, when it cannot afford to look like it is just giving money or supplies but is out to do that. During WW2 the US's Lend-Lease Act gave a ton of stuff to the USSR that was never returned, for instance, and it was pretty predictable that would happen before it was passed, but the entire point, really, was to fund and militarily arm other countries to better take on the Axis powers.
>>17445
Yeah a draft is a non-starter they couldn't even do the draft in Vietnam without tons of officer fragging and recruitment centers getting firebombed and that was when lots of Americans were still patriotic and believed in the government.
>>17474
I guess don't need to persecute kike spies if you just give the kikes everything.
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>>17471
>Nukes. 
I'm not even sure that would work. People overestimate how much nuclear weapons can actually accomplish militarily. Yeah, you could kill a lot of Iranians, but at the end of the day the Iranians would still be able to destroy Israel and kick the US out of the region, and the Iranian government would probably even come out the other side intact.
>Assuming the US still has functional delivery systems.
I actually read somewhere that one of the upgrades to the Minuteman II decreased its range by a few thousand miles. It actually might not be possible to deliver nukes from the continental US to Iran with ballistic missiles, even ignoring the issue that the missiles would probably have to fly over Russia or China. So we might just be talking about air delivered or submarine launched missiles. The air delivered ones run into the problem that delivering them would be risky, and given the number of warheads you'd need to even theoretically cause Iran's government to collapse you might either run out of SLBMs or at least reduce your number of submarine deliverable warheads down to a level where you actually can't maintain credible second strike capability.
>Destroy everyone's satellite network to ensure Iran is blinded.
Iran has recon drones and I've heard they have an extremely robust HUMINT program. I actually suspect that destroying everyone's satellites would blind the US more than Iran. It's not like China and Russia would let the US destroy their satellites without at least destroying the US's back after all.
>Another alternative is to rebuild the industrial base they deliberately gutted out over many decades
Or maybe they'll wish upon a star and Iran will just surrender for no reason.
>>17472
>an honest action plan
I can't think of an action plan to actually get an army to Iran to start a ground war that doesn't involve a massive conscription drive not just in the US but in Europe too, and fifty million+ conscripts basically walking to Iran from Egypt and western Turkey in company sized groups, sleeping in foxholes and getting supplies delivered to them in individual truckloads. The complexities of dispersing the logistics to transport a force like that would be insane. Think of what Russia and Ukraine have to do to get men and supplies to the front line, but extended over hundreds of miles of harsh desert full of insurgents, and supplying a much larger force. That's not what you'd need to actually beat Iran, that's just what you'd need to do to get a force there. Then you'd still have to conquer a heavily mountainous country the size of all of western Europe. Your 40k pic is apt, you'd basically need the Deathkorps of Krieg to do it.
>secure air supremacy
Iran's got literally thousands of air defense systems. Not all of them are great, but even the worst of them are basically I-Hawks. You're never going to reach a point where you can fly over Iran without any fear of GBAD like was possible in Iraq and Afghanistan.
>drop your forces in
Literally nothing but paratroopers? Would you keep them supplied by air too? You'd be relying on the couple thousand parachute trained dudes in the US army to defeat a million man army, and you expect them to do it with basically just what they can carry with them when they jump out of a plane?
>massive landing subs
Like a UVARD? I don't think that'd work unless you have a bunch of giant fighting robots to go with it.
>This is one of the biggest fuckups of the whole thing. "We armed 40,000 dudes with guns and theyre all dead now." why didn't you land Marines AS SOON AS the locals were armed and ready? AND to secure the one coastal province OUTSIDE OF FARSI THERMOPOLAE?
As much as that was probably a fuckup, actually sending in the marines would have been a bigger fuckup. It'd still have been 40,000 armed dudes + a couple thousand marines against a million man army.
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>>17476
The proposal is called "United States-Israel Defense Technology Cooperation Initiative". It is section 224 of the 2027 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) bill.
It looks to direct leading goy Hegseth with integrating Israeli tech into US systems and trading military info along a broad number of topics. A seperate portion of the bill allocates $670 million to Israel.
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>>17473
Posted 4/27, aka last ME thread: 
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>>16819 
The poster even says they look slightly dubious. Its possible then, that maybe thiese videos could have been altered with AI to look like a close call. The headline above sounds almost exactly like vidsrel. Occam's Razor of course being that they didn't learn shit from said near miss and it cost them dearly. 

>>17480
Oh, that's not DKK, that's Armageddon Steel Legion (aka Spanish Foreign Legion/SS 250th Volunteer Division). Picrel is DKK.

>action plan to actually get an army to Iran to start a ground war...
I looked over my other posts and I guess I left a vital detail out derp: foraging. To many NATO forvces, would sound almost like trying to strangle yourself to death, but in a Win At All Costs scenario its an entirely valid means of strategic supply. Loot every house, dress down every fallen combatant (yours or theirs), maybe send them in with offline Goygle Translate for Farsi (*coughandchinesecough*) on their phones so they can utilize enemy armor and arty. Loot, steal, salvage, rape, burn, pillage, all of it. I have a feeling DIE conscripts would be more talented than most in thi regard. and quite frankly, if this last decade on the internet has taught us anything, it's that the United Syates is literally run by a cabal of fucking Bond villains.

>air defense systems
yes, and theyre the second biggest baffle to the overall plan just behind drone meta. I recognize thet you see the importance of seizing portsbut I disagree that such should be done BY SEA. the play here may just be to reverse our typical doctrine of
<"Marines secure the beach, Army pushes inland, everyone else consolidates wherever is secured, in that order, with zero change or variation"
If the Iranians KNOW that, because its the SAME SHIT damn near every invasion we ever stage, why not change it up? By dropping tons of men from overhead (HOPEfully with some concealment) and securing/destroyign AA sites you play to two of the US's consistent strengths: Brute Force and Air Superiority. If you supplement that with the above foraging, you unlock one of our oldest strengths: Skullduggery. YO HO! Will it be safe as Iraq or Afghanistan? No, but even eroding the quilt to a patchwork make sa huge difference.

>Literally nothing but paratroopers?
See Above. FIRST overwhelming Paras, THEN secure the weakened beaches with USMC expys and (carefully) positioned Naval assets.

>unless you have a bunch of giant fighting robots to go with it
Okay, well we have to stop by Japan for just a tick and grab a 6pack of Gundams. No biggy. ;P

>sending in the marines would have been a bigger fucku
No, I get that. And as another Strelok said upthreaf "all it did was kill all the Christians in Iran ". What I mean is (provided this war is germaine in its prosecution)  they not only wasted thousands of lives, but what initiative could have been had from the CIA's "I Can't Believe It's Not Terrorism" style insurgency. If there was a time and place to kick off conventionally, that was it. Thousands fighting in the streets and the marines show up to support/lead them to securing the foothold provence OUTSIDE the natural choke point. But now heer we are, theorycrafting with 40k memes after Lord knows how many dead servicemen were sent in halfhaertedly by some golf loving corpo stooges.
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>>17480
>People overestimate how much nuclear weapons can actually accomplish militarily
Because they've been lied to about Japan.
In school burgers are taught that Japan surrendered after they got nuked.
In reality, Japan surrendered because the Japanese emperor was worried about what would happen to the Japanese people when the soviets turned their attention to Japan.
>>17482
>that's not DKK, that's Armageddon Steel Legion
I'm aware, but the Armageddon Steel Legion would just get droned and missiled before getting within a hundred miles of Iran, while the deathkorps would be willing to fight a decades long war where men furtively dart from foxhole from foxhole at night to cross hundreds of miles of no mans land, only to engage in suicidal trench warfare against a well prepared foe, without any support and no real hope of victory.
>foraging
I don't think that pludering the Iraqi civilian population would provide a sustainable source of supply for a war with Iran, since we're talking about a multi million man army being necessary, and the war would be extremely protracted. You can forage if you're only passing through, but you can't sustain millions of men for years by plundering the local civilians, eventually they all just starve to death or flee.
>I recognize thet you see the importance of seizing portsbut I disagree that such should be done BY SEA. 
Aside from my joke about sending the marines to banzai charge the beaches in Baluchistan, I haven't suggested hostile seizure of a port at all. I'm saying the American troops would need to basically walk to Iran from Israel at the very closest, possibly Egypt or western Turkey. Anything that isn't small units moving at night is going to get droned, and FOBs would catch ballistic missiles. Daytime would be spent sleeping in foxholes.
>FIRST overwhelming Paras, THEN secure the weakened beaches with USMC expys and (carefully) positioned Naval assets.
So you're suggesting securing a beachhead in Baluchistan or something? All the supplies would need to come in by sea or air. Iran has demonstrated robust anti-shipping capabilities, and Iran's air defenses would blow up any big fat cargo planes you tried to send in. The beachhead would be cut off and quickly overwhelmed.
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Sorry to ask this here but since I think it was posted in one of these kinds of threads does anyone have a link to the post(s) someone made some time ago with infographics about certain non-perishable foods for long term storage for a disaster and general preparation? That is if it was even posted in the Middle East thread or on this board at all. I know there's >>146 but that didn't have the infographics I remember seeing but neglected to save. It sucks because they were really simple and seemed like accomplishable goals within a short time window compared to every other guide.
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>>17472
>This is one of the biggest fuckups of the whole thing. "We armed 40,000 dudes with guns and theyre all dead now." why didn't you land Marines AS SOON AS the locals were armed and ready? AND to secure the one coastal province OUTSIDE OF FARSI THERMOPOLAE?
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Also rockets. Lots and lots of rockets. And almost a million in military forces. Also armed nomads. Also Baluchistan's Afghanistan border where there are Taliban forces that wouldn't mind killing more US.

The problem is that Iran was already fully prepared for a US naval invasion over 20 years ago. This isn't attacking some fucking scrubs. This is attacking a country whose military has spent the past 40 years preparing countermeasures for US invasion and war. The enemy is completely prepared for this and fighting on home ground. US is underprepared. Committing ground troops has all the makings of a complete disaster.

>>17482
>I looked over my other posts and I guess I left a vital detail out derp: foraging. To many NATO forvces, would sound almost like trying to strangle yourself to death, but in a Win At All Costs scenario its an entirely valid means of strategic supply. Loot every house, dress down every fallen combatant (yours or theirs), maybe send them in with offline Goygle Translate for Farsi (*coughandchinesecough*) on their phones so they can utilize enemy armor and arty. Loot, steal, salvage, rape, burn, pillage, all of it. I have a feeling DIE conscripts would be more talented than most in thi regard. and quite frankly, if this last decade on the internet has taught us anything, it's that the United Syates is literally run by a cabal of fucking Bond villains.
Mate, all Iranian men have to complete 2 years of military service and Iran's nomads are armed. You're not just robbing old and inept civilians who can't fight back. There are plenty of ways for that to turn into a disaster.
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Everything is daijobu!
Iran has suspended negotiations over the US's recent "defensive attacks" and Israel's continued war into Lebanon.

>>17492
Nothing good ever begins with the words 
>I had a very productive call with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu
>>17492
Until he lays at least one new brick for the Temple of David by the end of this presidency, I will remain convinced that his massive ego is also a Jew deception.
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>>17492
Trump only means that Israel doesn't need US troops in Lebanon.
>>17492
>spent a month saying the Persians are desperate for a deal
<Persians formally stop talks because of the kikes' actions
<look, I stopped the kikes being 100% genocidal (and yes they won't stop their shit), I am a master of the deal
>>17484
>suicidal trench warfare against a well prepared foe, without any support and no real hope of victory.
Agreed. We send in Ukrainians in the first wave.

>can't sustain millions of men for years by plundering the local civilians
I was thinking of a stopgap measure rather than a full replacement. If we do this its going to get MORE fucked .

>I'm saying the American troops would need to basically walk to Iran from Israel at the very closest, possibly Egypt or western Turkey.
AHA! my mistake! I assumed you meant seizing a port to directly facilitate the invasion. Yes, moving overland makes a lot of sense for small units, as i think you said, the distances involved make it all but impossible. Said small units would also really never be able to take enough ground to mount a real threat from without. Hence, my retarded "kick 'em outta a plane or two" idea. 

>The beachhead would be cut off and quickly overwhelmed.
Granted. And I think Baluchistan specifically is wel past recoverable unless or until a larger op is underway. If the Pentagon is married to this invasion we're either going to see a) something new and high-tech, b) something crude, yet effective (nukes for instance), c) an everyone all at once blitz from all directions to avoid the other two. strutting up with a carrier  wide open and intending more threat than action doesn't work, Iran is an opponent who needs to be overwhelmed to be defeated.

>>17486
I know I know I know I know I know.

>Also Baluchistan's Afghanistan border where there are Taliban forces that wouldn't mind killing more US.
I know. I was saying that that ship had sailed, the "rEbElLiOn" the glownigs cooked up went niwhere and if it was to be used properly it should have lead to some larger action, not dumping off rusty pea shooters and calling it a day. If anything im surprised Talis not already our primary opponent since Troonp said he wanted to "take out base back"

>This isn't attacking some fucking scrubs. This is attacking a country whose military has spent the past 40 years preparing countermeasures for US invasion and war.
I know. and if this war is going to be committed in earnest, it would have needsd a larger commitment to go anywhere. 

>Mate, all Iranian men have to complete 2 years of military service and Iran's nomads are armed. You're not just robbing old and inept civilians who can't fight back. T
I know. And ill again say that this is an option. Wed blanche at the thought of it, but its on the table. Would it be easy? Fuck no, none of this is. its the dumbest shit in the world, but its an idea.  mandatory service is also a mixed bag. Some definitely see it as 2 years if PE class and never look back. And how many small arms are in civvy hands? We had to send them to Jim Baluchistan, so probably not many. And again, if they're doing this, big glow is going to have to throw everything and the kitchen sink ta them

>here are plenty of ways for that to turn into a disaster.
<turn into
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polite sage for der doppelposten

I should add that we still –STILL– dont know the extent of the damages and losses to everyone whos already been sent over.  The US, Trump, the Pentagon, the baby eating faggots paying them all and big oil dont take a black eye lightly, which is additinal cause for motivation.Israel definitely doesnt take a black eye sitting down, even if they almost never swing back fairly. I doubt the western parties involved want to quit while theyr "ahead" so i strongly believe we could see larger acts of retardation. 

I'm also the anon a couple threads ago who theorize that the Green Beret c130 landing op may have been a play to embed personnel rather than steal the uranium. This is because it worked as a prelude to the Gulf War and because we havent learned shit from punching down for so long. 

Not Learning > Same Mistakes > Big Beautiful Invasion That Looks Cool On My TIME Magazine Coffee Table Book Cover

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>>17501
>>here are plenty of ways for that to turn into a disaster.
><turn into
>>_>;;;
Pic related.
Unironically Trump’s best course of action is to just use the holograms.
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Could someone please reply to this >>17485?
>>17506
must you beg in a thread not meant for it?
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I don't even know who to reply to so I won't eve attempt it. 
My take is that negotiation isn't going to work because Trump won't budge on the uranium issue and neither will Iran, despite the fact that in other ways Iran seems to be offering Trump an off ramp of "let's negotiate an end to the war and then talk about the specifics of the uranium thing at a later date." And then Trump goes I WILL HAVE THE NUCLEAR DUST OR I'LL EXTERMINATE ALL THE PERSIANS He just won't fucking let it go despite all indications are that Iran isn't at a critical nuclear threshold even if their reactors were still working.
On top of all that Israel is doing and will continue to do everything to sabotage the talks and Trump has limited to no ability to influence them. His only option is to have a full break with Israel, and that's not happening.

Nuclear is also out. While the US could do terrible damage to Iran with atomic weapons the consequences of using them would lead to nuclear WWIII either immediately or within weeks to months. Unless he plans to strike Iran while also attempting a sneak decapitation first strike at both Russia and China it's a no go. I mean unless Trump is actually crazy to the point of derangement.

Conventional destruction of Iran by air is also a no go. We'll drain our self too dry of munitions and then probably still loose as far as any real objectives go. And then we'd be vulnerable to attack in the short term while we're replenishing stocks. Assuming we don't lose something actually irreplaceable in the time of it.

So his only options are either to 
>declare victory and leave
He might honestly. Probably his smartest choice.
>admit defeat
Won't happen. Trump's ego won't allow it and he went all in on the Iran bet. It's be way worse than Biden in Afghanistan because most people beside extreme political partisans don't care about the withdrawal because most people considered it to be a lost war for years and it wasn't Biden's bag anyway. Iran is Trump's war 100% and it was a complete war of choice too with out even a false flag figleaf to sell it to the US public.
>massive ground invasion
If he wants to actually (try to) win this is his only option. He'll have to instate a draft and in response to the mass unrest due to instating the draft he'll probably have to declare martian law. He'd probably at least attempt to cancel the election too. Whether he'll actually get away with any of that is anyone's guess but likely not given even Republicans broke rank with him over the "Political Weaponization Fund" thing. And the US will probably still lose in Iran anyway. And if it got bad enough for Iran I'd expect them to scuttle the strait and strike oil fields and desalination plants on the way out to inflict a Pyrrhic victory on the US. They'd also throw everything they have at Israel too. It'll be a massive debacle and it'll leave the US, the Middle East, and the world more unstable for it. It also might be the end of Israel and the Republican party too.


>>17506
Do you remember when it was posted? Or at least when you saw it?
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>>17492
Wow, that invasion really bit Trump and the USA in the DICK! Get it? Kewek, bit the shit out of it!
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>>17492
<We're losing on all fronts and need another ceasefire to regroup for more scheming.
I doubt the ceasefire is real. In any way. But if it is, then I hope Hezbollah keeps shooting anyway. I mean, somebody important somewhere has got to stop taking his Twitter negotiations at face value, right?
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>>17501
>something new and high-tech
They have already tried all that, the anti drone lasers and the nigger bird dark eagle hyper sonic missiles.
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>>17512
>that mystery meat goblin
.  .  .

>le ebin nuklear codes
The fuarking pakis & pooshits have nooks. The kikes have lots of nukes. Why shouldn't the Persians have nukes? That's never made any sense to me about this whole debacle tbh.
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>>17514
Because it threatens the kikes ability to bully Iran with impunity or regime change them with out a device going into the wild.
>>17506
>>17485
palanq.win has the 4/out/ archive, you'd be drowning in infographs there
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>>17514
>that mystery meat goblin
Judge Napolitano is just from New Jersey. He's as white as anyone from there. He's also one of the best commentators on the news out there.
>>17520
That Jew is a great salesman for DJI.
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>>17507
Sawy. >_<
>>17508
>Do you remember when it was posted? Or at least when you saw it?
Within the last 6~8 months? I remember it emphasized honey as being really shelf stable.
>>17518
>403 Forbidden
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>>17522
https://archive.palanq.win/out/thread/2531639/#2531639
Retard. I didn't even know about this site and I found it fine.
>>17520
Dog and pony show. They're trying to outlaw smol drone ownership from the goyim (cf. the recent ((( FCC ))) ban on DJI drones [in specific] within the Burgerland b/c "communications safety" reasons), and just trying to play the "muh_eternal_victim" card to drive it through. * 

He knows he's lying; any combat ready drone is going to be much larger & heavier than these little fleas.
>tl;dr
Was a kike's mouth moving? If so then you know it was lying.

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*  Humorously enough, he apparently still doesn't understand that old dog won't hunt any more: everyone is DELIGHTED with the fact the Chadzbollah is rekt'g the IDF.
US attacked Iran again last night and Iran attacked US air bases in response. Seems like the "cease fire" is beginning to slip. Iran continues to pause the negotiations despite Trump claiming that they aren't. Either Trump's outright lying or he's being kept out of the loop and has been placed in an imaginary loop and being fed completely false info. Wouldn't be the first time that happened. That even happened during  his first term.
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>>17526
>US attacks in one place.
>Iran attacks in two places in response.
>And also the Kuwait International Airport, because why not?
Now that's more like it. Tit-for-tat works only when the defender punches back twice as hard. Hopefully Iran is learning this lesson.
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>>17530
>>And also the Kuwait International Airport, because why not?
No, it's because Kuwait International Airport also hosts Abdullah Al-Mubarak Air Base, which is the HQ of the Kuwait air force which hosts a lot of the US air force that operates in the region.

A lot of airports in the middle east are dual-use because the country's air force is small but they and their US backer still need some air bases or they were just being stingy and/or figured that no one would attack them anyway when they are protected by the US so they could just cut corners.
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>>17531
At what point does it become impossible to maintain this low level tit for tat strikes and it just goes back to all out exchanges? Because the talks are going no where, the Israelis won't budge on ethnociding anyone that does drink goy blood and small outbursts like this don't achieve anything militarily or politically.
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>>17535
The waiting game largely favors Iran which is why they're being so patient when the US is playing stupid games. The economic damage is mostly going to pile up on the US and European end (but also other places, like SEA and Africa, will receive serious collateral damage) and Iran can build up faster and develop more to deal with the US, like longer-range drones and rockets, better air defenses, more infrastructure hardening, and so on. The clock is very much on Iran's side and letting Trump take ownership of a dogshit blockade situation that's going to bleed US's allies hard is going to politically isolate the USA and pressure Trump hard to make a less favorable deal. It also helps a little with the international image of Iran to show forbearance.

There are people who want to go "fuck it, we ball" because they have good reason to expect to come out on the winning end and believe the US doesn't understand any language other than force (which is fair, given the US's track record of honoring negotiations with Iran and the amount of stupid games being played), but there are others who prefer comfortably running the clock on the US and letting the Americans suffer the hot seat as the damage slowly piles up. It's also possible the futures market on oil starts to go tits up at which point some wild stuff will be happening in western economies since they've been using the futures market to suppress current price increases. Of course, the governments are all doing their damnedest to keep that situation from blowing up so who knows what solution will be arrived at in the end, but you can very much expect increasing economic instability and weird government moves as this shitshow drags itself out further. All of this goes back to the point that sooner or later the EU may actually try to strongarm Trump into fucking off before they get wrecked by the economic damage.

Another fun knock-on effect of the energy market going tits up will be the AI market, which is largely a bubble and has extremely high energy needs, bursting into collapse as well as the reduced capital flows, exposure, liquidity, etc. issues all squeeze it. Of course the AI market could also go to shit from Iran blowing up the 30 billion OpenAI+pals data center (called "Stargate") in the UAE, which it has already threatened to do. That would sure have some effects on the AI market, which is another reason the US is very uncomfortable with full-scale war, but Trump being Trump and American exceptionalism being American exceptionalism, they cannot resist trying some shit anyway, while remaining afraid of a full war.
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>>17536
>Another fun knock-on effect of the energy market going tits up will be the AI market, which is largely a bubble and has extremely high energy needs
To be fair, AI needs electricity, and pretty much no one burns oil to power the grid any more, so at first big tech companies would be indirectly affected by the costs of building new data centres going up at first, but they are already burning monopoly money to build them, so even this wouldn't be a problem. It's more likely that the bubble will be popped simply by the generic economic struggle, as one point the majority of investors will be forced to face the reality that most people don't want to spend their paycheques on gAI subscriptions, and without that the demand for this bullshit is not great enough to justify the running costs of this circus.
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>>17538
We do use natural gas however and as far as I'm aware aren't we mostly buying it in lpg from from the middle east?
>>17535
Is that Israeli anti-corruption thing against Bibi and associates going anywhere? Is there a chance for Israeli elections anytime soon? If yes to any of those, then all-out war will resume to keep Bibi dead or not, his group of associates in power.
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>>17545
Bibi keeps spinning up new states of emergency to buy himself more time and try to destroy the apparatus that would be charging him. It's a big part of the reason why he's acting so recklessly aggressive now (including the destruction of Al-Aqsa Mosque). The moment the crises stop, the corruption trial resumes, and it'd be the end of him.
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>>17546
>Nature might end up destroying more ships than Iran.
Shamefur dispray, Iran. But it's still funny.
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>>17547
>including the destruction of Al-Aqsa Mosque
But that hasn't happened. And if/when it ever does, the significant majority of the mudshits will join with the Persians to destroy the kikes.
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>>17546
nauplius and cypris larvae did nothing wrong
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>>17549
The little rocket that drone uses to take off reminds me of the old Zero Length Launch program that basically was an attempt to make the Starfighter into a VTOL aircraft by rocket launching it and then landing on prepared runways with carrier arrestor wires. The whole program was as stupid a waste of tax dollars as it was awesome.
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>>17554
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_catapult#Interwar_and_World_War_II
>Up to and during World War II, most catapults on aircraft carriers were hydraulic. United States Navy catapults on surface warships, however, were operated with explosive charges similar to those used for 130-millimeter (5-inch) guns. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAM_ship
>The ships carried a rocket-propelled catapult to launch a Hawker Hurricane, dubbed a "Hurricat" or "Catafighter" to attack Luftwaffe aircraft. Normally the Hurricane fighter would be lost when the pilot bailed out or ditched in the ocean near the convoy.
In other words, catapults are a well established technology, and if anything it's baffling they couldn't make it work just fine for that jet.
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>>17550
Yeah, it hasn't, but it's a great opportunity to spin up a new crisis while also building up internal support for himself by doing something the radicals have wanted badly for a while, so he's been moving in that direction. So long as there's a state of emergency he can delay the trial.
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>>17555
I know aircraft catapults were a well established technology, I remember reading about the CAM ship program for the first time in a Cracked.com article when I was in high school. The reason it reminds me specifically of the ZELL program is because that clip actually looks like they do when they launch.
>if anything it's baffling they couldn't make it work just fine for that jet.
They absolutely made it work, the reason the program was scrapped was because it was a logistical nightmare and by the time they got it working (NATO is basically an organization that turns every project into a bureaucratic nightmare) the doctrine had moved on and it wasn't really needed anymore. They actually got to the point where the whole airfield could be packed up into a couple of shipping containers and loaded onto trucks, arrestor wires and everything.
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>>17559
Even then, doing it with a plane with turn radius bigger than some countries does not seem like the best idea.
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>IT BEGINS

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