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A thread for all forms of naval warfare.
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>>18712
>no more was heard about "unrestricted submarine warfare."  It's almost like what is and isn't muh "war crimes" depends on whether you win.
I'm going to be lazy and just copy kikepedia, but the long story short is that Nimitz saved Dönitz by plainly admitting that the US was doing the same:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_D%C3%B6nitz#Nuremberg_war_crimes_trials
>His sentence on unrestricted submarine warfare was not assessed because of similar actions by the Allies. In particular, the British Admiralty, on 8 May 1940, had ordered all vessels in the Skagerrak sunk on sight, and Admiral Chester W. Nimitz, wartime commander-in-chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, stated the US Navy had waged unrestricted submarine warfare against Japan in the Pacific from the day the US officially entered the war. Thus, Dönitz was not charged with waging unrestricted submarine warfare against unarmed neutral shipping by ordering all ships in designated areas in international waters to be sunk without warning.
Most German generals could have just walked away from those trials if there were more people like Nimitz amongst the allies. Not to mention that if Nürnberg was really about meting out justice, the 
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>>18716
Like every other aspect of US military and foreign policy between 1933 and around 1946, it was done to please Stalin, who loved him some show trials.  Never forget that this was just after half a million working-class White American men were enslaved by their own government and sent to their deaths to prop up Josef Stalin and install Mao T'se-Tung and Ho Chi Minh.

I don't know whether US entry into the war could have been prevented, realistically.  Japanese territorial ambitions in the Far East specifically and explicitly included the Philippines, then US territory.  Some will claim that the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was the direct and predictable result of eight consecutive years of calculated provocations, denunciations, and ultimatums from the Rosenfelt Administration.   There is truth in this.  FDR was desperate for a war and worked very hard to bring about conditions for US participation in the war that the whole world saw coming years before the fact, preferably on the side of ((( the Tribe ))).  But even if the US had not gotten a Red regime eager for a nice long expensive bloody war to get rid of working-class males who were surplus to requirements and give peasantry foreign enemies to talk about as a distraction from their own government's corruption and ineptitude, the Japanese plans for a Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere were real and went back to the 1
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Are the UK carriers HMS PRINCE OF WALES and HMS QE any good?
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>>19376
As with most hardware, the answer to that depends on how good a fit it is for what you're trying to accomplish. They're overbuilt for the STOVL carriers they ended up being, but they're also too small for sustained overseas operations like the Nimitz or Ford classes are for.
On the other hand, if you maintain a relatively small military and you only get one (well, two, but they're supposed to rotate in service with each other) they're probably the best compromise you can get. They're small enough for littoral work but big enough for bluewater, they can launch long range strike aircraft or ASW sorties, and carry 250 marines across the Atlantic with only a bit of DD/DDG support. If you're not going to run dedicated AAS hulls like the US marines or China, you're better off with the all-in-one solution even if it's not as capable as giant CATOBAR carrier and a group of support ships.
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Are there pictures enough to at least guess the navy and the type of the vessel? Those electric sockets on the right side of the cabin seem to be American to me, but I'm not even sure about that.

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Previously, on "Lifestyles of the Rich and Goatfucking": >>18371

>multiple cities host the funeral of the Late Ayatollah Khamenei (PBUH) with a turnout in the millions to honor his passing
>traitorous niggerfaggot Senator Lindsey Graham (PBIS*) dies of "heart attack"-like condition, probably unrelated to missile landing up his ass while visiting Kiev
>Gee, Bill! The US is blockading the Strait with TWO carriers, over 20 ships dedicated to the totally non-war that nobody American has died from
>Trump gaffs about "Islamic Republic of Japan", possibly alluding to Japanese being blocked from attending the funeral of Khamenei
>Negiyahu 5000, the Bibibot designed to defeat Ultraman, declares that the merger of the US and Israeli militaries is "ahead of schedule"
>multiple strikes reported in Bahrain, salt is back on the menu

*(Please Burn In Shit)
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>>19660
Honestly it would be full clownworld if it was Hasidic jews that caused the collapse of Israel by refusing the draft violently.
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>>19662
That's a clownworld I can get behind fully.
>>19659
That reminds me, what's that cartoon of a jew in underwear sending a soldier to die for him, it said something about Jerusalem too, i think? It really fits the situation we are now.
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>"The BIGGEST attack you've ever seen. Probably the Biggest Attack Ever!!
When will they ever learn?

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SOME FOLKS ARE BORN
Last Time on Trumpf a l'orange's big Middle East Shit Show:
>nakadashi enthusiast Israel refuses to pull out of Lebanon
>Iran, tired of the refusal or inability of the US to fulfill it's side of the MOU, fires on a tanker
>US strikes Iran in response
>Trump has once again threatened to annihilate Iran 
>Heagseth has apparently taken a cocktail of coke & Pervitin and is now Bi-Winning!
>Iran in progress of closing the strait
>"cease fire" is hanging by a thread...
Really never thought I's have a good excuse to post the top pic, and hardly on Independence Day week of all times. These are strange aeons...
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>"the era of one-sided deals is OVER. We told you: keep your word or pay the price. Reality is knocking."
>from the Persian negotiator
Fun really is really back on the menu. How long until gas skyrockets again?
>>19057
>'«Lindsey Graham died in Kiev, not Washington, DC.»'
LMAO, I wanna habeeb.
https://news-pravda.com/world/2026/07/12/2436936.html
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>>19086
>He was visiting a drone factory in Kiev that was hit by the Russians. He did not have enough time to depart Ukraine on Saturday morning, take the train to Poland and then catch a flight back to DC.
>Senior folks at the Pentagon are talking about Senator Graham dying during an inspection of a drone factory in Kiev.
That is a remarkable argument.i too, "wanna baheeb".
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>>19087
SUDDEN ILLNESS
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>>19088
I will be completely honest. The worst of "neoconservative" politicians getting got in one of the wars they promoted pleases me. Shame it wasn't for this kike war.

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Retro and Modern for discussion of A-Bombs and their effects on history and the modern world. Including contributions to popular culture. So everything from serious discussion to giant gila monsters are both welcome here.
''tl;dr nukes, rockets, & radiation goes here.
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>>13640
Not really relevant when using a torpedo but yes and also yes the tsar bomb was just a stunt.
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North Korea Could Overwhelm US Missile Defense With Nuclear Strike
>North Korea is rapidly expanding its nuclear capabilities and may be nearing a point where it can challenge the effectiveness of US missile defense systems.
>According to Bloomberg on April 29, current estimates suggest Pyongyang possesses around 50 nuclear warheads and has the capacity to produce fissile material for up to 20 additional warheads annually.
>The report highlights concerns around the US Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system, which is designed to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles. The system currently includes 44 interceptors deployed in Alaska and California, with plans to expand by an additional 20.
>However, intercepting a single incoming missile typically requires launching at least two interceptors, limiting the system’s capacity during a large-scale attack.
>Under these conditions, Bloomberg reports that a simultaneous launch of approximately 20 intercontinental ballistic missiles could potentially exhaust available US interceptors.
>North Korea’s Hwasong-series missiles are identified as a key component of this threat, particularly when combined with the country’s growing stockpile of warheads.
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>>16870
Ok, mental note if one day I took over my shithole nation: have at least 100 nukes and throw 70 to israel and 30 to the usa.
>>18505
If you mean armoured vehicles I think so. Being able to over pressurise the hull seems to be a standard feature now for pretty much everyone not just NATO.
https://ews.kylemcdonald.net/ 
Found this website that tracks billionaire's business planes around the world and tries to give an estimate level of an imminent nuclear holocaust.

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>The U.S. carried out a second consecutive night of attacks last night on Iranian-linked targets after an Apache attack helicopter was hit by an Iranian drone, with President Trump declaring: “We hit them hard yesterday, and we're going to hit them again hard today.”
>Washington continues to describe the operations as "self-defense" strikes.
>Iran Retaliates
>Iran responded by launching missiles and drones toward U.S. military facilities across the region, including targets linked to:
<• Jordan
<• Kuwait
<• Bahrain
>Last ight marked the second straight night of Iranian retaliation.

Now the mad brute trump has posted on truth social of taking Kharg Island.
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>>18343
>Seems like this is becoming a daily thing now.
USrael carried out new strikes on the Iranian coast in response to that third tanker strike earlier in the day.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-us-war-live-trump-hormuz-attack-strikes-b3004145.html
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>>18365
Seems like the Blumpf-in-Chief's bluster>buy_the_dip>TACO>sell  cycle is a little off kilter now?
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>>18343
>Le "Transit with Caution" maymay
The standard kike issue part of all this is the burgerstanis are using the tankers & crew as fodder to test whether the minefields are still clear. Literally.

Clearly they would tell them to stay the fuck out of those zones if safety of the crews, cargo, and ships was their priority. Its not.
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>>18368
Why the need for all the aerial refueling tankers aloft at once for such a minor patrol/interdiction operation? Fishy.
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>>18369
Huh. If this data is to be believed, it appears CENTCOM is literally allocating one full tanker to one T-38 each. These are very lightweight jets, so that makes little sense from an economic/logistics standpoint. Are they refueling other, hidden, aircraft as well?

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What are the coolest uniforms and camo designs you've come across?

If you were to revive one uniform or scheme for your ethno nation which would you pick and why?
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>>4466
It's high grade LARPing, that's what it is. It's as if the Finn soldiers would always wear the pure snow-white complete suit with fur just because that's the real deal out there.
The best camo at the office would be to look like a corporate fuck toy of the lowest levels since nobody would pay attention to you.
>>4450
Recognizably is half the point of uniforms. Also economy of scale.
>>18299
Honestly not really.
Unless its special coating for stealth or titanium white.
But you have to paint them anyway to limit wear and tear. You are paying for paint either way, might pay 5$ extra and have it painted in funny shapes.
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>>18314
it's a bot
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>>18320
I was wondering how a bunch of older threads bumped up out of nowhere. lol

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A tranny shoot up a church full of little kids and only manage to kill 2 I think, rookie numbers.
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>>18187
>manifesto against women
>shot up zogbots
>somehow manage to make a female zogbot to shot a jew
Poetry.
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>>18187
It could be another one of those agency groomed killers, wind him  up and set him off and he just so happens to bump off a few people that were starting to look a little threatening inside your regime.
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>>18201
Could be, yeah. Though I tend to assume the windup shooter is the threat to the regime, and any casualties sustained are written off as the "cost of doing business." Not that our perspectivse are mutually exclusive, of course.
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I forgot we had this thread!

Montreal shooter's alleged manifesto, courtesy of other IBs.
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>>18191
>>18190

Also, manifesto (or, "manifesto") in the appropriate thread: >>18250

(polite SAGERU for doubleposting)

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Thread for discussing everything wrong with THOSE DAMN CHICOMS STEALING OUR FREEDOMS
>Also the thread for discussing the incoming fight between the PLA vs. USN +  ROCAF

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Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning (CV 16) transited through the Taiwan Strait
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China will grow larger.
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>idiots lost in the middle east
>moved assets to protect their only friend the kikes
>everyone knows the US can only really engage in one theater due to stockpile depletion at the moment 
>the kikes won't let the US leave the middle east
<mainland steps up its claims to claim to the waters around Taiwan 
<including using coastguard and survey vessels
<steps up language against Japan and the Philippines 
Gee. Who could have seen this coming?
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>>18135
One video I saw, the guy had a theory that the US and China talked before this conflict and was like "Hey, stay out of this and you get Taiwan," which would explain why Chinese oil imports relaxed around the beginning of the war. I wonder if there's any validity to that, and I wonder if that's emboldened the bug-eaters now that America not only gave them a promise (not that they'd keep it) but also that America failed at the task and has shown they're too incompetent and unreliable to attack or defend anyone.
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>>18140
Economically Taiwan is crucial for supplying electronics to the US outside of West Taiwan. Completely ditching the document that outlined why the US should pivot away from other theaters to deal with West Taiwan would be completely irrational, detached from reality.
That is not to say that the incompetent "chief" wouldn't make that "deal". And it really doesn't matter, in effect, that is the current scenario.

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call Mao's bluff and invade the north after wiping Haoni off the map
Bro please I don't want to debate boomerwar any more.

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Current events reminded me that we haven't had a thread about /k/'s favorite manned ICBM test program SPACE TRAVEL AND OTHER AEROSPACE VEHICLES! I suppose X Planes too as well. Image posting of classic Space Age vehicles as well as prototypes and concepts welcome, along with discussions.

Artemis is about half way to the moon I believe at this moment. Further updates will be forthcoming...
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>>17793
>anon thinks we've ever reached space
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>>17838
>we
no.
>>17793
Isn't spacex the only none loss making business he has? I'm not exactly happy with the idea of him monopolising space mining but at this point anything that gets us off this dying rock.
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>>17793
You're not exactly allowed to gather 500 140-160iq people together anymore because that's not what the qualifiers are anymore.
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>>17941
spacex and blue origin aren't the only private players in space, there's Axiom who's trying to build a commercial space station. kind of like but hotel but in low orbit space

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