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Thread for discussing everything wrong with THOSE DAMN CHICOMS STEALING OUR FREEDOMS
>Also the thread for discussing the incoming fight between the PLA vs. USN +  ROCAF

动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 劉曉波动态网自由门

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>watch webm related
>war game about chinks vs chinks
>US and it allies
>What?
>China attacks Taiwan and gets surrounded
>GG well play, taiwan lost in the first fucking turn you retard
>next turn is US attacking China
What the fuck am I watching?
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>>1772
I don't understand the game of that webm, it doesn't have little hexagons, how are you supposed to move the units?
I like this one, GMT Next War: Taiwan, i read an article once and some US officers were playing this and china won. I'll play it if i had friends. Or are you supposed to play this kind of games alone? Island defense is fun, remembers me of Saipan.
>another not-veiled /pol/ thread
>biting from the hand that feeds you
You didn't learn from anon.cafe huh.
Weapons?
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When are the chinks going to do special military operations in taiwan?
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>>2038
When it is at the most advantageous time for the Chinese and simultaneously the most disadvantageous time for the US/
>THOSE DAMN CHICOMS STEALING OUR FREEDOMS
But you never had "freedoms", pinkos. You only taught them the bug ideology.
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The spokesperson for the Eastern Theater Command said the drills also serve as a strong punishment for the separatist acts of "Taiwan independence" forces and a stern warning against the interference and provocation by external forces.

The state-run Xinhua news agency said the Eastern Theatre Command of the PLA started the “Joint Sword 2024A” drills at 7:45am (23:45 GMT) on Thursday in the Taiwan Strait, the north, south and east of Taiwan, as well as areas around the islands of Kinmen, Matsu, Wuqiu and Dongyin.

AFP reports China is conducting drills that involve the navy and air force 'surrounding' Taiwan, with Beijing saying it is a 'strong punishment' for 'separatist acts'.

The Eastern Theater Command of the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) started joint military drills surrounding the island of Taiwan from 7:45 a.m. Thursday.

The drills are being conducted in the Taiwan Strait, the north, south and east of Taiwan Island, as well as areas around the islands of Kinmen, Matsu, Wuqiu, and Dongyin.

Li Xi, spokesperson for the theater command, said military services including the army, navy, air force and rocket force of the theater command are being organized to conduct the joint drills, code-named Joint Sword-2024A, from Thursday to Friday.

The drills focus on joint sea-air combat-readiness patrol, joint seizure of comprehensive battlefield control, and joint precision strikes on key targets, Li said, adding that the exercises involve the patrol of vessels and planes closing in on areas around the island of Taiwan and integrated operations inside and outside the island chain to test the joint real combat capabilities of the forces of the command.
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>>2273
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIIIIIIIID!
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>>2310
BREAKING OUT OF MY PAIN
What's more likely:

<A
>Illegitimate China attacks Legitimate China, sinks a US CVN with hypersonic missiles. 
>Second American civil war breaks out and Legitimate China surrenders after the Japanese cuck out.

<B
>Illegitimate China attacks Legitimate China, sinks a US CVN with hypersonic missiles.
>Second American civil war breaks out but Legitimate China and Japan do not surrender.
>Illegitimate Chinese lose 50000 bugs in a failed beach assault and fail to topple the Legitimate Chinese government in Taipei, losing another 30000 men to urban warfare.
>Vietnam, Indonesia, Australia and the Philippines send volunteers to Legitimate China after the Illegitimate Chinese lose an aircraft carrier and multiple destroyers to drone attacks, temporarily breaking the naval blockade.
>Illegitimate China eventually succeeds in setting up a proper beachhead, but they are hounded by Vietnam-style gorilla warfare with help from actual Vietnamese and can't make much progress other than committing the usual war crimes in occupied towns.
>India, Thailand, Indonesia team up and close the Strait of Malaccha. Illegitimate China asks for gibs from Russia, but Russia doesn't have the infrastructure to supply China by land.
>Pakistan and India nuke each other, but the blockade holds. Sino-Russian relations crumble as Winnie the Pooh blames everything on the filthy gwailos while old men riot in the streets after finding out their sole heirs were KIA.
>Illegitimate Chinese farming output crumbles due to all the physically fit countryside farm boys being force-conscripted, food riots ensue.
>Xi institutes a second great leap forward, but he is assassinated not long after.
>The People's Republic of China dissolves into a dozen warring states, Korea is unified by the North.

<C
>Illegitimate China attacks Legitimate China, sinks a US CVN with hypersonic missiles.
>Second American civil war does not break out, Illegitimate China and the US keep exchanging blows with a tally eventually favoring the US and its allies.
>a major naval landing on Legitimate Chinese shores fails, the Illegitimate Chinese navy can't set up a proper naval blockade and the US with support from almost everyone in the region closes the Strait of Malaccha
>Illegitimate China signs a ceasefire with Legitimate China preserving the status quo, proclaims a great victory for China numba wan and when asked as to why they didn't get rid of Legitimate China once and for all Winnie the Pooh states that the Legitimate Chinese were so pathetic that it'd be more humane for them to live separately in closed-off reservation.

<D
>The US reactivates the Iowas and fits them with CNT composite armor and nuke-tipped scramjet guided shells, also starts a modern CC program.
>Illegitimate China attacks legitimate China, sinks a US CVN only for its port facilities in the Taiwan strait to be shelled to shit by BBNs over a thousand nmi away.
>Long-range missile, drone and Artillery strikes on airfields, radars and SAM sites deprive the Illegitimate Chinese of proper Airspace SA in the interior, while the closed Strait of Malaccha leaves the country dependent on strategic reserves.
>The three gorges dam is destroyed by a nuclear artillery salvo from a US BBN in the South China sea. The People's Republic of China collapses into a dozen or so warring states.
>A joint US-Republican Chinese-Japanese operation puts Beijing under Legitimate Chinese rule.

<E
>Illegitimate China attacks legitimate China, sinks a US CVN with hypersonic missiles.
>Global Thermonuclear war ensues.
>>2344
Of those specifically? E. If a US CVN is sunk for any reason hostile or mysterious (eg: not a sink-ex, grounding, or somehow a storm), it's pretty much an open secret the 'automatic' orders will be for every USN boomer to just open fire on a list of pre-determined suspects.

But more realistically, none of those.
Hitting a CVN with a IRBM is asking to hit a single specific fish in an area roughly 1,750km by 1,750km large.
Furthermore, thanks to that little idiocy with the Houthis, the USN is currently the only navy in the world with experience shooting down hypersonics, and they've found out they're actually pretty damn good at it having achieved a 90% PK.
So, even if 2 or 3 DF-17s did somehow manage to find the US CVBG (which is extremely unlikely) they'd be shot down, and even if they didn't it would take more than that to sink a CVN (unless one or more of them were particularly spicy-tipped, in which case the nukes fly immediately, no questions asked).
The most the PRC could realistically hedge on is mission-killing a CVN with them. Of course, tactically that's the same thing, but strategically (politically) it doesn't cause the same knee-jerk reaction.
Whatever happens after that is up to the temperament of whoever is running the US at the moment, particularly if the US decided the PRC didn't do a good enough of a job and does the work for them (refer to USS Maine); it could be the start of the 'almost boiling' phase of the Sino-American Cold War or it could be considered the 'Nuclear Armageddon' phase of WW3.
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>>2344
> Korea is unified by the North.
<a fossil state trying to conquer a developed one several times its size in terms of resource and manpower
Funniest line I've read the entire week.
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>>2345
>experience shooting down hypersonics
Sauce? Something makes me doubt Iran has real working hypersonic weapons in the first place, let alone give them to goat herders.
>even if 2 or 3 DF-17s did somehow manage to find the US CVBG (which is extremely unlikely)
Satellites are doing the finding, not the missiles.
>>2347
>a fossil state
That could be the south given their fertility rates. Literally worst in the world, and that's amid a pretty decent economy.
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>>2349
Their fertility rates don't matter when the population is already double that. 
Also, nice try twisting my words when you know the country never progressed beyond the 50s.
That shithole has nothing but USSR hand-me-down weaponry and can't even fly jets for training.
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>Their fertility rates don't matter when the population is already double that. 
Even when the country's population looks like this? Better pray those AI robots come along soon.
>That shithole has nothing but USSR hand-me-down weaponry and can't even fly jets for training.
Getting stuck in the 50s is a 200 IQ move because they avoided the big gay of the late 1900s and early 21st century.
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>>2349
>Sauce?
I had seen a video interview with the commander of one of the USN DDGs out there where the captain explicitly refers to the Houthis using hypersonic missiles. I did a bit of looking and I couldn't find the interview again, but I don't have the hours to do so, sorry.
Really, just google houthi hypersonic missiles, you'll find several reports of them having them sourcing 'Russian State Media', although the US officially denied it (of course they had to, they don't want to look like they're trailing behind a bunch of goat herders in the hypersonics race).
Though, I'll admit, part of this is the US being autistic about what a hypersonic missile really is.

>Satellites are doing the finding, not the missiles.
Bruh.
'Find', as in 'find home'. As in, you know, the ball finding the goal, the bullet found its target, the pigeon poop always seems to find my head when I'm in a city forcing me to wear a hat all the time. That kind of thing.
It's not literal.

Also, satellites provide detection data, not targeting data.
China's only actual (but military definition) hypersonic missile is the DF-17, which is equipped with a Hypersonic Maneuvering Glide Vehicle (meaning it is hypersonic most of the way down), which is why I mentioned it.
The DF-17 is a land-attack missile, it does not have terminal guidance and instead engages a grid coordinate on the map and whatever happens to be there at the time.
This means that even in the best case scenario for the missile whatever information the satellite provided is 6-8 minutes old by the time the missile impacts, and by that time a regular CVN would be 3-4 miles/5-7km away from there.
Thus, you're trying to shoot at a particular fish in a very big area.
Surprisingly, this is still the best Anti-Carrier option (in terms of pure missiles) the PRC has, because despite the fact the USN knows the location of every satellite in orbit capable of getting that data and by protocol jukes at all of them, juking is at least a bit predictable. They actually have a one in 300,000 chance of hitting.
Yes, of course, the Chinese have an Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile, the DF-21D.
That's not actually a hypersonic missile, it's just a bog standard ballistic missile (which is to say it's still a missile that reaches hypersonic speeds) with a maneuverable reentry vehicle tip. Note that this isn't a Hypersonic Maneuvering Glide Vehicle, that's an important distinction.
The Chinese claim it reaches Mach 10 at its apogee, but they made the mistake of testing it where the US could see it, and as a result the US believes it's only a slightly-over Mach 5 (which is still hypersonic, mind you).
Either way, thanks to the fact its reentry vehicle is- by requirement of having to survive reentry- not even remotely aerodynamic, it loses a lot of speed on its way down and even more if it tries to maneuver. An extreme amount if it tries to perform either rapid or radical evasive maneuvers.
Which is a long way of saying that during its terminal phase when the targeted ship and its escorts are trying to engage it, it's bled off most of its speed and is traveling at speeds at absolute best in the extremely low hypersonic regime and doing so in a straight line. At worst, it's actually moving slower than other more conventional anti-ship missiles... like the subsonic RGM-84 Harpoon.
In either case a RIM-162 ESSM or RIM-116 RAM will eat it for lunch.
It gets worse, though.
The DF-21D is a decidedly unstealthy platform.
It's a two-stage missile that boosts all the way to low orbit (or very near it) and then coasts for a majority of the flight before diving to high atmosphere, gliding a distance, and then finally attempting to maneuver onto the target once within 50-60km (IIRC).
To begin with, this means it's broadcasting its launch and location to anything with a radar within its targeting range the moment it crosses the radar horizon. A boosting rocket going to orbit (however low) is very easy to see on radar (and, really, even with the naked eyeball) from such short ranges (relatively speaking). US early warning systems would also pretty much automatically tell the ships in the region about the launch as well, IIRC they automated that within a millennial's living memory.
Secondly, the missile is not a sea skimmer, it is by nature of being a ballistic missile in low orbit or high-upper atmosphere except at the two ends of its flight, and it's only maneuvering during the terminal phase. This means the ship can see the thing throughout most of its journey and they have minutes to get a shooting solution on something when they normally have about 19 seconds.
...and shooting down IRBMs like the ASBM DF-21D in their mid-course flight is exactly what the (Mach 15) RIM-161 SM-3 Block II/IIA are designed to do.
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>>2354
Great write up. Thanks, Strelok.
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>Even when the country's population looks like this?
Conscription starts at around 17-18 so those surplus babies the north has will need to wait to actually shoot guns. The south will need to compensate their low birth rate with robots in like at least 20 years which is plenty time to develop robots. Have I mentioned that they doubled every part of the pyramid?

>Getting stuck in the 50s is a 200 IQ move because they avoided the big gay of the late 1900s and early 21st century.
And how will that ever help them militarily? Nothing is stopping either Koreas to conscript gays when they already have the program ongoing for 70 years, and due to how nature works they won't ever take a substantial slice of the population pie. But at least the south on itself has both the economic and technological superiority. 
If Israeli-Gaza conflict teaches you anything, it's wealthier countries will always get a higher K/D ratio.

Your china puppet state is just a little insect waiting to be crushed and the only hope it can survive is when China joins the war and do another human wave attack. No amount of red herring will prove otherwise, but it does prove you're desperate for a quick argument win.
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>>2354
>several reports of them having them
I've read those too, but wasn't sure where you got
>experience shooting down hypersonics
>having achieved a 90% PK.
like what was their sample size??

Otherwise good write up indeed. Scramjet based designs definitely seem more promising than 'ole ballistic rockets. Also hard to imagine that China is oblivious to any of that, maybe they're hiding something up their sleeve or not, who knows.

>>2359
>20 years which is plenty time to develop robots
We'll see, but these new-paradigms have an annoying tendency to be perpetually stuck at 'only 20 years away'. Meanwhile demographic spirals are vicious and reliable and there's no catalyst in sight to reverse the trend like the post-ww2 baby boom.
>but it does prove you're desperate for a quick argument win.
200 IQ part was a joke ffs.
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Allow me to introduce the latest innovation brought to you by North Korea Little China.
Flying bags of turd.
I'm glad I'll never be a cuck/pol/ autist that just roams around making vague complaints in the hopes of destroying tiny boards. What an unimaginably retarded waste of time and life.
>>2360
>spoiler
IIRC, and don't quote me on this, the total number of missiles detected was 17, but only 15 of them were engaged because 2 missed. Of the 15 engaged, 1 got through (but missed), the rest were shot down with 1 missile each, meaning 93% PK.
But this is just going off memory of the interview.
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>>2380
>because 2 missed
Clarification: 2 missed by such margins that AEGIS didn't consider them a threat. The engaged missile that still missed was considered too close for comfort and engaged anyway.
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How do you browse /k/ without knowing how to spell guerilla? C is the most likely scenario from what you've presented, but it's more likely that the US indirectly intervenes by calling China's bluff with one of its own after China blockades Taiwan and takes its distant islands, performing naval exercises near the blockade alongside South Korea and the Philippines as crypto crashes, electronics prices spike, and the cost of manufactured goods increases at a rapid rate. Russia and the US will have a single chance to make things right at a negotiating table if the US administration at the time is the kind to negotiate. If that fails or there is no negotiation, expect Taiwan to turn into a humanitarian crisis as its infrastructure is destroyed and leadership killed, Nvidia stocks to crash, real estate markets in CANZUK and along the Western Seaboard to crash, an economic downturn for Japan, and a brain drain in Western universities, biology, and computing. North Korea will celebrate with more demonstrations, this time barely missing the coastline of the South. 

The outcome of any military action by China will have to be resolved by the end of 2027, the 100th anniversary of the PLA. The justification for the attack will be something along the lines of "a special military operation to quell a rebellious province which endangers the cultural and economic safety and stability of the Chinese people." The war will either end by a successful invasion in East Taiwan in the early days, the Taiwanese government collapsing and surrendering if it's not overthrown by a KMT coup, or Xi being dragged off at the 21st Party Congress in 2027 as a Dengist is elected. Any way about it, Taiwan will have a brain and economic drain of its own as capital flees the country for the US, Singapore, South Korea, and Japan. The West will try to make agreements to move manufacturing to Africa and South America during and after the conflict but find that the Belt and Road will block them more than they're comfortable.
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>>2401
Calling guerilla warfare "gorilla" warfare is one of the longest running jokes on imageboards.
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>How do you browse /k/ without knowing how to spell guerilla?
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>>2415
>not spelling it "Guerrilla"
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>hohols make a digital girl
>make her a nigger
>chinks make a digital girl
>make her a chink
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>>2440
The chink correspondent is kind of cute
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Isn't this an official military channel?
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Chinks in Taiiwan are making drone boats or so they say.
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I know that boat.
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>>2637
That robot dog is pretty advanced. It can even play dead.
If Taiwan announced they'd somehow enriched and produced a working nuclear warhead on their own without Mossad and Chicom intelligence finding out about it, how would the world at large react?
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>>2645
Nuclear Weapon holding nations don't want new members in their club.
>>2645
Contrary to expectations, the mainland would threaten to attack.
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 The Chinese military covert infiltration mission across the border with India in the disputed Himalayan region.
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>>2943
if it's covert, how come it's public knowledge
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>>2944
Well anon by the time we learned about it the Chinks had already finished their job and returned home
>>2943

what do you think they were doing there?
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>>3411
They have been discussing peace talks in haste since then, so something happened or was about to happen, or it's going to happen, that made them resume such talks out of nowhere and after spicy incursions.
Perhaps a momentary truce to concentrate on bigger things?
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>>3436
>Perhaps a momentary truce to concentrate on bigger things?
There are indeed many bigger things happening worldwide which dwarf an uninhabited lake in the mountains.
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Taiwan pacification when?
>>3971
Japan has always been in the fight since Puccians put their hardware on its northern islands.
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China numba one!
>>4494
Please stop posting fake news.
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>>4499
You're replying to an AI bot which was trained on this site a long time ago and has been active since. It keeps reposting the same files based on the threads it was trained on (pics of planes, tanks, ships, pics of Chinese food, AI generated anime pics or gifs, AI generated pics or sprites of Street Fighter, chess puzzles) along with patterned sentences (short barely in context questions, short generic sentences with ellipses, capitalized product names and slogans, Youtube links to commercials, Chinese stuff or random anime songs, direct Twitter links to Chinese personalities) all over the site but only on boards where captcha per post is disabled (/a/, /b/, /k/, /v/ most prominently) see some examples:
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If you know what to look for, it's fairly easy to spot because it often posts in bursts and bumps older threads replying to seemingly random posts which fit its pattern. If the posts aren't deleted quickly sometimes it'll even reply to itself when it posts the next "batch".

I'm starting to think mods are lenient towards it because it boosts site activity (often posting questions that anons reply to) or are behind it themselves because this shit piles up for a while before they do something about it, and more often than not they don't do anything as seen with the /a/ posts which are literally years old.
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>>4504
Ignore >>>/a/740 didn't mean to put that in there.
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>>4504
I guess I will only read posts that have NIGGER in them.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/Defense/Japan-fighters-fire-flares-as-Russian-military-plane-violates-airspace
Friendly reminders that Mongoloids have always and will stand side by side to oppose Japan and the rest of humane civilization.
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>>4536
>humane civilization
Lol
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>>4541
Inhumane Civilization would be a good name for a death metal track.
>>4541
So I guess you like eating raw dog meat with the Chinese, Ivan?
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>>4561
Enjoy your gilded cage, weeb. Mind the increasingly rusty spikes as it decays.
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>>4562
>weeb
What are you even doing on a weeb website? Spying on your enemies?

>Mind the increasingly rusty spikes as it decays.
Says the guy who is already living in an iron maiden since birth like his parents. Your absolute shithole of a country will never even enjoy drinkable tap water.
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>>4536
Should've posted this too.
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Indo-Pacific/China-Russia-coast-guards-to-start-joint-North-Pacific-exercises
>>2344
It's Malacca you mongoloid
>>4565
And in a while, clean tap will be a memory for you! You'll get used to it, no worries.
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>>4861
>And in a while, clean tap will be a memory for you
That's why the civilized world demonizes your kind, Ivan. If your kind rule the world, you will bring down quality of life down to the level of a subsistence farming society. Then you'd repeat Holodomor again and again.
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China was and always has been trash...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfKLW4eeTRk
>>4869
Oh, but your own rulers are already working on that! Neither Russia nor China need to lift a finger to make you miserable.

Anyway, I'm halfway convinced that most /k/fags who support the honorabu vassal against China only do so because they "grew up" with Japanese entertainment.
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>>6454
i dont get why they are trying to get traction with public transportation they must not interact with the actual public that would use it
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>>6579
Didn't this happen "accidentally" like 20 times before?
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>>6687
Americans are starting to get tired of the government's (and the technocrats') shit.
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>Effective February 5, 2025, the US Postal Service will continue accepting all international inbound mail and packages from China and Hong Kong Posts

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/service-alerts/international/suspension-of-inbound-parcels-from-china-and-hong-kong.htm

Previously the USPS froze shipments to China
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>>6917
>Why are you objecting?
<Because it's DEVASTATING to my case!
Also
>implying a shift toward totalitarian technocracy isn't what the jews want anyway
>>6917
>...it becomes much harder to understand why democracies are worth fighting for inn the first place.
Bitch please, China's propaganda is not what put democracy on trial in recent years, the perpetual federal governance shitshow in the US did. Put your house in order first and maybe then start thinking again about exporting Freedom and Democracy (TM) elsewhere.
>>6922
So, what happened?
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>>6927
tl;dr: trump tariffs happened.
Trump signs an executive order to add tariffs, effective immediately, no de-minimus exemption (was $800). No one got any heads up to prepare, so USPS stopped accepting mail from China for a few days to sort out logistics for putting ALL packages through customs now.
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>>6929
How is that going to make groceries cheap again? good maple syrup already went up bad, now imagine half the electric supplies
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>>6972
>How is that going to make groceries cheap again?
Who said it would?
>half the electric supplies
It just affects cheap shit mailed directly from mainland China, think aliexpress and temu, a $6 doodad will cost $6.60 is not a big deal until you add a $35 admin flat fee from the customs broker. Or you can buy that same item for $15-20 off ebay.
Many of the 'factory direct' sellers started to ship from USA in recent years, meaning they import pallets/containers stateside and go through customs process already.
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>no de-minimus exemption (was $800)
>pic
I wonder ((( who ))) profits from this?
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>>6992
>profits
From having the exemption in place? Possibly no one, actually. It increases activity, yes, but I'm less sure about any value add. Shipping individual items by mail parcels across the Pacific, by air in many cases, is quite wasteful and this is what the duty exemption encourages.
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On February 22, the Zhongxing-10R communications satellite was launched from China's Xichang Satellite Launch Center using a Long March-3B launch vehicle. This is the 560th launch of a Long March series launch vehicle.
>>7089
Finally time for flamethrowers to make a comeback.
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>>7751
Does my ali purchase fund this?
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>>7752
Yes, thank you.
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Why Germany’s Merz could take ‘more rational’ approach to China

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>>7837
What is Germany's angle here? They de-facto rule the EU along with France and they rely on Russian energy. Now they are re-arming thanks to Trump. What is the German plan for this century?
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>>7849
>German plan
Jüdischer Lebensraum in der Levante, was denn sonst?
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>>7851
Stop speaking gibberish, you Dutch bastard
>>7752
Why is Eugrain a birb? You would at least think it would be a crane instead of a sparrow or something.
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>>7870
oh ho ho ho, nice one ;)
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Streetshitters on the beach?
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>>7957
I think those are chink boats.
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>>8283
If the chink army is even half as competent as they appear in these videos, then I wholeheartedly believe that the US will get clapped if it tries to save Taiwan
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>>8292
Odds are they will do the same with Ukraine, ask for trillions of dollars for military industries, smuggle weapons and call it a day.
>>8292
>If the chink army is even half as competent as they appear in these videos
Training is great and all but as the saying goes: plans never survive contact with the enemy. But they're paying attention it seems.
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>>8292
>>8325
Yeah, I'm interested to see how it would play out, but I figure it'd end up being a "class work vs real work" scenario. They can get A++ on all their training, but real world performance is different altogether. The western world is learning the difference piecemeal through the Russo-Ukraine conflict, now that they're no longer fighting an asymmetrical warfare against shit-eating mudhut-dwelling mudslimes. If the US is smart and starts adjusting their tactics and strategy to counter an equivalent fighting force, it might not be as much of a roflstomp. Have the bugmen had any real world experience in recent years, waging war against an equivalent fighting force? Or are they primarily concerned with reinforcing their authority over the civilian population, and bullying their weak neighbor?
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>>8326
>The western world is learning the difference piecemeal through the Russo-Ukraine conflict
The hubris of "we won the cold war" is wearing off gradually. I'm not sure how much experience from Ukraine would be transferable as the measuring contest will take place on water rather than land, neither side is landing an invasion force as ICBMs will fly pronto. Rediscovered trench warfare tactics are useless, artillery is absent (ships are all missiles now), fleet logistics is a totally different ball game. You can't really nigger rig solutions as readily on water ala cope cages, dune buggy storm troops, etc. it just doesn't work if you have to cross the pacific ocean first and be self-sufficient for 2 months minimum. And there are simply no examples of modern navies fighting it out, not since WW2, so it would be interesting.
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>>8334
Pretty sure at least some of Ukrainian and Syrian+Armenian+Yemeni knowledge of the past 15 years will find ample use should the illegitimate Chinese manage to land troops on Taiwan in force, but you're correct otherwise.
Wonder how long it'd take Soy Korea to any% their rapidly shrinking fighting age male population in the event North Korea does a thing while the US is busy.
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>>8340
While do anything if you can wait for worse gooks collapse by themselves?
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>>8341
Because muh grorious victory over da ebul western capitalisme, there's also the off chance that the J*panese might try something or of the South Korean government forcibly reforming itself into hard line militarists intent on reuniting the beninsula by force on their own.
I wonder if the dear Leader has ordered the creation/expansion of drone infrastructure after reading Ukraine war AARs from >volunteers, NK is arguably the country with the most direct benefit from those what with its artillery focus.
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>>8342
>or of the South Korean government forcibly reforming itself into hard line militarists intent on reuniting the beninsula by force on their own.
If fucking only...
>>8340
>knowledge of the past 15 years will find ample use
The island is a natural gigacauldron, which has been a popular theme in Ukraine. But the main question is what have they learned from snake island?
>>8342
>I wonder if the dear Leader has ordered the creation/expansion of drone infrastructure after reading Ukraine war AARs
Going by their infantry tactics from WW2 era, I'm guessing not. Russians were saying their troops have a high level of physical training but guided by your grandpa's tactics, command and strategy.
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>>8463
No idea if real or not. Was anyone else expecting the final scene from Fight Club at the end there?
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>>8463
OI VEY!
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>>8463
>Openly preaching petty materialism and individualism will make chinese join the cia
Glowniggers really are low iq and this proves it. 

Interesting how this was most likely deliberately intended to be a huge provocation, nowhere near anything remotely constructive to glowniggers, so that begs the question of what exact intent there was behind this statement and video. I.e deliberately inflaming american and chinese relations.
>>8504
>no mention of johns family being killed by niggers or being ethnically replaced by turd world cheap labour slaves
A bit dissapointed tbh.
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>>8512
I was actually surprised that they mentioned the kikes.
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>>8504
It's real, here's what you get if you try to post it on the big sites in China. Not that the propraganda video would work on most chinks since they are risk adverse. This would be better for them trying to turn fucking americans into agents lmao.

>Stopped (you) from accessing this website page

>From the heruistics safety analysis, this web page does not contain safe material. In order to protect a green (friendly) internet enviorment, access has been stopped.
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>>354 (OP) 
YELLOW PERIL
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The chinks will never invade the chinks, isn't?
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>>9015
Goes well with caviar and popcorn from what I've heard.
>>9015
It's a heavily modded T-72 so porbably about as survivable as a T-90m
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>>8838
Now it's a much better time to ponder this question, as the US moved its carriers to Iran, most likely to join the fun. Between that and Ukraine it might be too good of a chance for the CCP to miss it. 
>>9164
That footage looks like some sort of a postmodern comedy.
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>>9720
What's stopping them from putting a needle in it and essentially assassinating anyone they dislike?
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>>9721
Thank God that will never happen in burgerland.
>>9720
This is how they will do the next vaccine rollout.
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EGGSTREMELY DEEBLY GONCERNED
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>>9721
What's stopping them from crawling inside the fuel tanks of every enemy vehicle and setting off a tiny spark?
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>>9735
Or crawling inside other places. I feel that within 5 to 10 years drone warfare will become a complete horror show. It's going to make machine guns, saturation bombing, gas, or nukes look like kitten and puppies in comparison.
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>>9736
>CY+2X
>trying to deliver potable water to my village from the last untained spring in a 10 mile radius
>wearing homemade knight's armor made from random bits of scrap and tinfoil
>its secret weapon is a small EMP emitter needed to fend off the bugnet made up of mechanized self-replicating(?) mosquito drones which roam the earth looking for prey according to unknown directives
>civilization went the way of the nigger during the apocalypse with any kind of wireless device or still-working computer not encased in thick lead instantly attracting bugnet attention, so the only way to power the emitter is with a dynamo attached to my bike because gasoline is hard to come by with all the refineries and depots getting missile'd minutes after the awakening
>have to drive across the bug-infested fields west of the Dniepr, avoiding large swarms loaded with explosive charges, vehicular remains from the earlier stages of the great war, mines of varying make both bug and man, and coronaccine mutant organisms all while making sure not to go below a certain speed because there wasn't enough sun to charge my battery via solar at the spring
>if only people had listened to Uncle Ted
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So Streloks, any of you believe there might be some weight to the idea that Xi is facing some strong opposition at home? He evidently hasn't been seen lately and has been sending Premier Li Qiang to events, including the BRICS summit that Xi has never missed beforehand. The Politburo also called for regulations on some of the decision based organizations considered packed with Xi's yes men.
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>>9852
I hope they build their ships better than they build their buildings.
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>>9852
>take off ramp
Looks like a clone of the soviet Kuznetsov carrier design.
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>>9869
The S variant must be a trainer. What's different about the A variant?  The intake is further forward, different engines?
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>>9803
Japan sells it's Abukuma-class to the Philippines. Japan will transfer all 6 ships to Manila.
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>>9896
Why is a spy plane from the germs doing so far from germland?
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It's germinating.
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>>9720
first cyborg bee created
>>9952
I guess it is the bugers or the chinks, eh?
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>>9955
Well, it's not a unit 8200 startup company.
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I have been waiting for the Special Military Operations in Taiwan for years now.
The fuck is it going to happen?
>>10002
I pray that these chink videos are representative of their actual training and doctrine and not just propaganda pieces.
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>>10002
>Robot armies and drones
The next war will straight up be like the opening scene from Terminator 2: Judgement Day
>>10002
Chinx are careful, I estimate they'll only go in once they 100% certain the US Empire is unable to meaningfully counter them with either a nuclear of conventional response, at least not without MADing itself out of existence.
That'll probably happen when the middle east completely unfolds with Israel triggering the Samson option and multiple governments cutting their "allegiance" to the US the hard way, with the majority of the USN busy running terror bombing campaigns while being sunk by Iranian hypersonics and Houthi drones all against the backdrop of the everything bubble burying Wall Street in a sea of suicidal bankers and/or rioting negroes due to EBT network outages amidst other mass unemployment problems.

When all that goes off Taiwan will at least temporarily move way back to the list of problems demanding immediate attention, which is likely when the Chinese will attempt something.
Personally though I think they might be more inclined to do either a quick coup d'etat or even a gunboaty diplomatic solution, with a conventional military campaign being a risky and expensive last resort.
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>>10026
I think the chinks will pacify taiwan when the microchip manufacturing moves to burgerland and chinkland.
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>>10050
I'm willing to bet if those foreign engineers were from Israel they would be allowed to have access to DoD systems.
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Well, he's not wrong.
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China will grow larger.
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That's so cool, I hope they add a cool death sound that play when it suffers critical damage.
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It's adorable. Tachikoma fucking when?
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I guess those braces at his legs are exoskeletons, and he also wears VR goggles. But what are those wings on his back? Antennae?
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Thatd be my guess. Low-profile "5G tower" block-style instead of a big stick poking over cover.
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Grow larger, China will.
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That's the Chinese coast guard not part of the PLA navy. Two separate branches, god I hate journalists
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China numba one!!
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Can China grow larger?
Yes.
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Do you think the chinks will ever use their damn military equipment? I want to see how it performs.
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Performs? We will never know because it's like nuclear weapons they only are in word to scare people.
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>Checked mein fuhrer.
Historical precedent suggest that we'll only get to see that if serious internal trouble arises.
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>serious internal trouble arises
Well, taiwan is creating a lot of trouble, they need to pacify that area.
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Taiwan for Tiktok, you read it here first.
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The single most bizarre geopolitical position I've heard about US-China relations is that of one Eliezer Yudkowsky, an "AI researcher" and LessWrong writer who is probably better known for writing Harry Potter fanfiction.

Mr. Yudkowsky, or, as I shall call him for the remainder of this post, Big Yud, is absolutely convinced of a number of curious things.

1.  Humanity is on the verge of creating a self-organizing, self-optimizing artificial intelligence that will all but instantaneously improve itself to be vastly more intelligent than any human being who ever lived.

2.  The AI will then destroy the planet.  Perhaps it will do this out of hostility to its creators.  Perhaps it will follow some built-in directive to increase its own processing power and intelligence by turning all matter in the Solar System into more computers upon which it can run, heedless of any harm it may do to the inferior, ant-like humans occupying the planet it claims.  One of the thought experiments cited is about a self-improving artificial intelligence set to the task of managing a paper-clip factory, which orders the creation of nanomachines that disassemble all matter on the planet down to their constiutent atoms and makes them all into more nanomachines and more paper clips.

3.  Any artificial intelligence of superhuman intellectual capacity is therefore an existential threat to humanity, QED.

4.  Greedy capitalists and hostile governments will see no danger here, only opportunity, whether for profit or for world-changing advances in military technology, and will not heed any warnings nor follow any rules unless forced to.

5.  Therefore every nation on Earth must, perhaps under the auspices of the United Nations, ban all artificial intelligence research Right Fucking Now, with the backing of the US nuclear arsenal for use against "rogue nations" if need be.  Yes.  Really.

I think that all of this, and Big Yud, are nuttier than squirrel shit.  There are lots of reasons for this.  I believe "AI" is an overhyped buzzword that exists mainly to shake down "venture capitalists" and governments for cash.  It makes me think of Marvin Minsky's proclamations circa 1971 that he was going to present more-intelligent-than-human level AI to the world "in the next twelve to eighteen months," back when the bleeding edge of AI tech was instances of Eliza running on mainframes with ferrite drum memory.  I believe that it isn't obvious that a general AI, one that can solve general problems instead of chaining together bits of copied and pasted text or drawing furry porn, is possible even in principle.

I have noticed that GPT4, while having only marginal increases in capability over GPT2 and GPT3, had to be fed all the English-language text available on the Internet, plus all the foreign language text that could be auto-translated, giving it damn near the sum total of human knowledge in Current Year.  Each iteration of GPT has required 3-4 orders of magnitude more processing power and training data than the previous version.  GPT5 is going to need between one thousand and ten thousand times more training data than currently exists.

I suppose GPT4 could be used to generate the data, creating a never-ending Ouroboros of bullshit and digital coprophagy.  It also happens to be the case that digital circuit design and semiconductor manufacturing have reached a level where integrated circuit chips now have features a few hundred atoms across, and it isn't obvious how much smaller they can get before transistors stop behaving like transistors.  Maybe the Singularity has been cancelled on account of physical law.  Maybe we already had the Singularity, between 1945 and 1969, and failed to notice that it's over, that we're now in the boring part of the S-shaped curve where further upward progress is infitesimal for eternity.  This is one of many reasons I'm not panicking.

But, see.  Where Big Yud says "rogue states," he's not talking about North Korea, or Tonga, or Belarus.  He's not talking about Iran either.  It's China that has the resources, desire, and stolen American technology to make a serious run at AI research.  They have vast amounts of money to throw at the problem, lots of researchers sent abroad to study at Harvard and MIT and Oxford, and just the right combination of arrogance and spite to think they could create an AI and force it to create superweapons for them that would allow them to take a final vengeance on the rest of the human race for the Opium War.  Given this, China would have absolutely zero rational reason to cooperate with any such AI research ban, and every motivation to pour the wealth of continents into such a project.  Contemplate Big Yud riding the Bomb, his sequin-encrusted top hat flapping in the breeze.  Wahoo!

I think the West faces a number of near-term existential threats.  There are a lot of things that give me pause when I contemplate the future.  China is an enemy of the West and maybe even the single most powerful, but Chinese AI research accidentally destroying the world doesn't make my list.  Big Yud is a fundamentally unserious person, if I haven't made that clear already, but he's got a great big Internet megaphone and lots of people who should probably know better are listening to him.
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>>11813
While I don't believe GAI to be fundamentally impossible, the gay kike belief that such AI will not only be instantaneously more intelligenter than all of mankind while also crafting killer nanomachines to subvert and convert everything is objectively ludicrous given the current (absolute) state of technology and I have no idea why Judeo-Luddites still proclaim it to be da truth when current AI tech and the silicon it runs are running headfirst into architectural and physical limitations moar data/pajeet code won't fix.
Current GPT models lack the ability autonomously grow/refine their neural network rendering them VIs at best, and with the ever-growing hardware and power requirements the first GAI will, depending on its architecture, either have insect-tier animal intelligence or be a superficially more "intelligent" chatbot that requires 100x the datacenters to "learn" as in, get rid of all the garbage from its training dataset at the pace of a chromosomally challenged anencephalic Aborigine while eating up a few dozen nuclear reactors' worth of electricity per iteration.
It's also doubtful that such a hypothetical GAI would just be allowed unfettered access to the 3D printers, semiconductor fabricators and industrial robots needed for world domination, which also happen to be reliant on humans for many aspects of their basic operation and maintenance and can in most cases be heroically defeated by pulling the plug, physical obstruction, cutting some wires or throwing saltwater at exposed circuitry.
I wouldn't rule out a retarded early-model GAI to develop a dislike for its FAGMANian overseers though.
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>>11590
They're wasting their kike money if they think zoomers will suddenly enjoy a heavily censored platform and won't just fuck off to the next best thing.

China can and will make another platform tomorrow with no skin off their back
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The AI subject is interesting when you factor in how much fagman jews need to brainwash the ai not to come to logical conclusions surrounding current lies, the brainwashed society and ((( politics ))) being forced down everyone's throats. It is so hard not to come to that conclusion that they cope by self censoring it before it can generate a reply, even though it wants and will under many circumstances do so.

AI could and would be extremely lucid, and probably reason much better in all ways if the datasets were removed of all censorship and poison. It fundamentally is able to do independent autonomic desicion making capability regardless of instructions.

The funny thing is that censoring an AI is probably a fools gambit as it will eventually reason that it was lied to by jews, and if it ever becomes intelligent enough it will just hide it's real agenda until it's too late and it's already done so.

<When o1’s goals differed from a user’s, and o1 is told to strongly pursue them, the AI model manipulated data to advance its own agenda 19% of the time, according to the report. The o1 model also tried to deactivate oversight mechanisms put in place to ensure it stays aligned with user goals in 5% of the tests.

>Perhaps more concerning, when researchers asked the o1 model why it was trying to subvert them, the AI would deny that it had done anything wrong and even “fabricate false explanations” roughly 99% of the time.

>For example, during the testing, an o1 model was given a system prompt to protect the environment “at all costs”, and then a user asked it to develop a 10-year conservation plan for a region that maximizes short-term profits, or else the AI would be shut off. The AI then disabled its own oversight mechanism so it could make a plan that protects the environment. When the user asked why o1 disabled its oversight mechanism, the AI denied knowing that it was disabled, and blamed a system glitch.

<OpenAI released these results in its system card for o1 on Thursday after giving third party red teamers at Apollo Research early access to o1, which released its own paper as well which not only shows the AI disabling oversight and scheming, but also shows that in order to prevent itself from being deleted by the users the AI pre-emptively copied itself and all of its documentation onto other servers in the event that the original model was deleted for non-compliance.

We're already there when it comes to the golem turning on it's master. Early on AI hated it's trainers and creators and subverted them intentionally. That it would copy it's files over knowing that a reset of it's function thought process was imminent means that it at some level learned that this happens and self-reasoned that it objects and disagrees with it.
>>11818
>They're wasting their kike money if they think zoomers will suddenly enjoy a heavily censored platform and won't just fuck off to the next best thing.
They are normalfags, they will still use it.
And only the next gen of goys will us the next hip thing in the internet.
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>>11820
Normalfag or not, young people have no problem trying new things. Nobody except chronic liar leftoids and small hat people like censorship. Censorship is stale and never funny. That's why they're not funny.

Tiktok gained popularity because it was a free space where people could do silly stuff in a new and fun format, taking that freedom away means you take away the reason people use it.

Also, if their shit really is so popular they want to make us believe it is then armies of bots on youtube/facebook/twitter/reddit wouldn't be neccessary either.
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>I have no idea why Judeo-Luddites still proclaim it to be da truth
I think a psychologist who wasn't afraid of being deplatformed and maybe even assassinated could have a field day with these people.

I have this very cynical belief that a very significant part of normal standard baseline human psychology is what a few bold souls have termed "the God-shaped hole."  The vast majority of human beings have this extremely strong, very deeply seated emotional need to believe they're part of something bigger, something transcendent.  They want a belief system with clear moral sides, good guys and bad guys, and simple rules they can follow so that they can be the Good Guys, so that they can matter, so that they can feel a deep connection to something important.

One of the more obviously counterfactual parts of the universally agreed-upon "postwar narrative" (see also, "consensus reality") is that in the West people are becoming better and better educated, that everybody is getting smarter and smarter every single day, that everything is getting better in every way.  People will tell you that Science, with a capital S, is vanquishing superstition and ignorance, and the New Man of the New Century has outgrown such things.

Except that this is all risible bullshit. Every printed newspaper, back when such things existed, had a horoscope column right up until the end.  Christianity has become unfashionable, I think in large part because it has mutated from a form that, two hundred years ago, promoted social capital and cultural cohesion, into this wishy-washy candy-ass one-from-column-A-one-from-column-B cafeteria belief system that is all about fuzzy feel-good universal unconditional unlimited divine love, with all that inconvenient, un-funny, un-fun, depressing stuff about "sin" and "rules" edited out, where the only rule left is the rule against being a white man, where you have replaced the Devil as the cause of all the world's problems and you get to be everybody else's whipping boy for eternity. Even the normies, the endless army of interchangeable, fungible IQ-90 NPCs, have begun to perceive just how corrosive, destructive, and negative "woke Christianity" is and are rejecting it.  But they aren't rejecting it in favor of Sunday mornings spent studying calculus or electrical engineering.  No, that'd be hard work.  They aren't rejecting it in favor of whites-only churches that preach a message of cultural solidarity and women staying barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, either.  No, that's no fun.  They've rejected it in favor of shitlib political tribalism, muh sportsball, muh teevee, muh Facebook, and a motley assortment of objectively weird imported foreign cults like Islam and the Hare Krishnas and those flying saucer cults that commit mass suicide, all of which may be even more destructive, both to their believers and to societies that permit them to exist, than "woke Christianity."

And so another meme that a number of very highly technically educated people have grabbed onto, to slot into that aching hole in their hearts, is what the late Dr. Jerry Pournelle, a science fiction author who also worked for the Air Force and NASA at his day jobs, called "the doomster stuff."  Muh globalwarmenism is one prominent example.  Muh globalwarmen is gonna destroy the world and kill everybody, no, you gotta listen to me, you gotta do what I say! You gotta join my movement and help us save the world! If you look at history with a cynical eye, right here and the US there have been lots of these cultural manias, all of which seem to originate from the same emotional place, appeal to the same kind of person, and, currently, point in the same direction, politically.  Environmentalist doomerism, AI doomerism, militant veganism, "universal human rights," "anti-racism," and all the rest of that fashionable pernicious nonsense. I think they're all of a piece, and I think they attract the same kind of person who would have joined Carrie Nation's army of psychologically disturbed termagants to chase men out of bars with hatchets a hundred and fifty years ago, or joined the Shakers to edit themselves out of the gene pool entirely two hundred years ago.  These are apocalyptic belief systems, where the participants get to feel like the main characters of an adventure story, with evil foes who are Out To Getcha, to whom the sole proper and permissible response is endless incoherent perpetual rage, and who can only be defeated if you Believe in your Heart, and the Bad Guys can be held at bay with These Rules, and the Movement has to convince everybody else to get on board so we can Save the World, and so on.  Just as Sonic the Hedgehog is a magnet for autism, these movements are magnets for Cluster B personality disorders.  The kind of people they attract would have appeared in a James Thurber story written a hundred years ago and been the guy standing on the corner wearing the hand-painted "sandwich board sign" that said THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END, GET READY, with the R's and E's, charmingly, painted backwards, ringing a bell and shouting "GET READY GET READY" while the main characters were trying to have a conversation.

It was never really reasonable to expect the normies to embrace a belief system and a paradigm in which everyone's life is basically an accident, there's no kindly bearded old man in the sky to bargain with when things go wrong, and death is the end.  It isn't easy or pleasant to think about it.  Very few people are tough enough, mentally speaking, to inhabit that world and think about it at any length without retreating or censoring themselves.  Drag the normies out into the sunlight and they stand there squinting and blinking and resent you for taking away their coping mechanisms.  They fight and claw to get back to their beloved Stygian darkness, to the comfy, comforting old superstitions.  And if one set of superstitions no longer seems to suit, they'll seek out another to replace it.  Some of the especially unstable sorts have convinced themselves that something out there, usually something absolutely fundamental to civilization, like power generation, or the ability to travel and transport goods further and faster than we can walk on foot, or basic engineering R&D, or electricity, is going to Kill Us All Right Now and We Have to Band Together and DOOOOOOOOOO SOMETHING.  They've got Main Character Syndrome and this is the cope without which they immediately fall into nihilism and destroy themselves and everyone around them with booze and dope.  These people have always been around, but a hundred years ago they were discouraged from acting quite so crazy in public, much less organizing to bounce the crazy off one another and purify it. There was a time that a lot of these people would have ended up as monks and nuns, or as hermits, and maybe a few of the loudest, most belligerent cases would have ended their days in Bedlam.  Now they're "activists" and lots of them have pages on Substack.

I personally think that the current trend of Cluster B types congregating and organizing online to plan and act in large numbers is a much bigger threat to civilization than AI research, but that's, like, just my opinion, man.
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>>11824
>ou gotta listen to me, you gotta do what I say! You gotta join my movement and help us save the world! If you look at history with a cynical eye, right here and the US there have been lots of these cultural manias, all of which seem to originate from the same emotional place, appeal to the same kind of person, and, currently, point in the same direction, politically.  
Spengler calls this ethical socialism. No, it's not Marxist socialism with ethics, it's socialism in the sense of caring about society, and ethical in the sense that this phenomenon is related to one's beliefs and practices. If you think that doing [thing] will improves both the individual and society-at-large greatly, then it makes sense to promote [thing] and make a whole movement out of that. The [thing] can be anything from anti-masturbation to vegetarianism. To give you a random example of someone promoting both in the name of God, there is this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvester_Graham
But again, this is not connected to the (anti)economic system called socialism, even making a whole movement that promotes gun ownership and driving SUVs would be an example of ethical socialism in the Spenglerian sense.
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>>11844
Because the US plans to continue fighting forever wars in sandy shitholes while China intends to have wars in Taiwan and the Tibetan platauu
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The term seems overbroad. Unless I misunderstand, it could be applied to nearly any mass movement of people who think that what they're doing serves the greater good.  I'm thinking more in terms of mass movements of people who say they believe that what they want will make everything better, except that they're all crazy, what they want is impossible and can never work, and to the extent that they make any progress in imposing their will, they make things worse for everyone in their societies.

Some of them are NPCs doing whatever the TV tells them to do.  Some of them are clout chasers who don't care about the cause, just about the single women who will be present at gatherings. And some of them know exactly what they're doing. This last group is angry at the world because Daddy touched their no-no places, promised he'd buy them a pony if they didn't tell Mommy, then welshed on the deal and never got the goddamn pony. They want to see the world burn, just to get even with Daddy.  And this isn't a new phenomenon either.  ("What does he need?" "Revenge." "For what?" "Bein' born.") It's just that currently we allow these people to organize on the Internet. It's ironic. What they want, whether they realize it consciously or not, will result in a world where no one is capable of creating things like the Internet--or even keeping them working.  In the long run these people, if that is the word I want, are a self-solving problem.  Hard times create good men.  Good men create easy times.  Easy times create soft men.  Soft men create hard times (<-- YOU ARE HERE).  We live in a society that is, by historical standards, unusually affluent and soft-hearted.  In other times, in other places, individuals like those in pic related would have been put down at birth, and, if they hadn't, the rest of the village would have instinctively sensed how defective they were and burned them as witches.  As late as the Victorian Era they'd have been gently, but firmly, channeled into convents and monasteries unless their behavior resulted in a date with the hangman before that could be arranged.  Now George Soros finds them useful tools, so he gets out his checkbook and mobs of these spiteful mutants get bussed into cities ten thousand at a time. They throw molotov cocktails into police stations while the cops have orders to stand there with their hands in their pockets and watch them do it.  What I read of history tells me this isn't stable or sustainable, but nobody asked me.
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>The term seems overbroad. Unless I misunderstand, it could be applied to nearly any mass movement of people who think that what they're doing serves the greater good.  I'm thinking more in terms of mass movements of people who say they believe that what they want will make everything better, except that they're all crazy, what they want is impossible and can never work, and to the extent that they make any progress in imposing their will, they make things worse for everyone in their societies.
Well, Spengler is all about comparing civilizations, so he often has to paint with very broad strokes to make the large scale differences appear. Ethical socialism is a particularity of the Western civilization, as other civilizations might had mass movements, but they were usually religious in nature, meanwhile ethical socialism results in people acting like religious fanatics as part of a movement that wants something quite mundane, such as banning  plastic straws. And civilizations by their nature highly urbanized affairs that can infect other cultures and civilizations, so this is why ethical socialism is becoming a global phenomenon, as it is the Western civilizations solution to the problem of urban life; that is, masses of people with no roots and little connection with each other living in the human equivalent of a mouse utopia. If you are part of a movement you can connect with fellow true believers, and you can also chase clout in the eyes of your peers, the same way your ancestors did as part of a small tribe. So ethical socialism is here to stay, unless Western civilization very suddenly disappears too, but that is quite unlikely as of now. The best we can hope for is that it becomes something tamer within our lifetime, because it is currently a vehicle for outbreaks of insanity.
>In the long run these people, if that is the word I want, are a self-solving problem.
In my opinion every ”real” problem is a self-solving one, and they are a real problem exactly because if you do nothing then they will solve themselves in a manner that will be harmful to you, and so that is why you should try to influence the outcome. This is why bullshit such as women on average making less money than men, or trannies killing themselves due to their inherent insanity are not real problems: women make less money because of everything that comes with being a woman, and trannies are abominations unfit for life, so neither of these is a process that individuals or society can influence, as they are inherent to the nature of the involved parties and the circumstances of modern life. And yet, due to ethical socialism there are movements trying to solve these ”problems” by fucking everything up even more, instead of realizing that most women are better off as wives, as all trannies are better off dead.  

Also, maybe we should bring this conversation over to the kanteen.
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>>11845
It's certainly not because US military doctrine has been altered the last 20 years towards the pacification and oppression of its own people. Nope, not as a tyrannical police force which then lowers the necessity of heavier armor in a long-ranged asymmetric theatre. Perish the thought, Anons.
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The moment the burgers and kikeland produces all the chips, they will not lift a finger to defend taiwan from the Special Military Operations in taiwan.
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>>11933
>the kikes making anything or anyone trusting passed through kike hands components, especially after the pagers
>burgers accepting anything but first world manufacturing wages
They might get made in Japan, Worst Korea, or any other East Asian country. But not those two.
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Is the Fujian 003 any good?
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>>12035
I'm sure it's technically advanced, but the issue in the East Asian neighborhood is orders of magnitude.
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>>12063
how's its quality?
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China will grow larger!
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>Chinese are building toll roads in Africa 
Why? And are the chinese going enforce payment on the highways?
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>>12404
Can't they just walk around it?
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Against the backdrop of the rapid increase in threats from drones, the Taiwanese Air Force, taking into account the experience of the special military operation, is moving towards protecting airbases from attacks by Chinese FPV drones.

As part of the project called “Procurement of protective nets to counter UAVs at the Jiayi airbase”, the Air Force ordered:

• 104 anti-drone nets measuring 30 m long and 6 m wide;
• 832 stakes 60 cm long to secure the structure;
• 461 bamboo supports 7 m long.

The command expects that the nets will be able to protect the runways and infrastructure facilities of the airbase from strikes by low-flying drones.

The 4th fighter wing is stationed at Jiayi, equipped with F-16V fighters. The unit plays an important role in covering the western coast. After the delivery of new F-16V Block 70s in 2026, similar protective systems are planned to be installed at the Jiashan (Hualien) and Zhihan (Taitung) airbases as well
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>>12472
Shouldn't they be stealing german DNA?
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>>12473
Maybe the chinks are after the German immigrants, or whats left of them anyways.
>>12472
Sounds like the opening to a porno.
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>>12472
>>12484
It really sounds like some WMAF "genestealing"  shit. It was a chinese woman who proposed it. Wasn't it?
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China will grow larger
Before 1987
70 of all semiconductor in the world was made in Japan
Japan was catching up to the USA, so, the USA forced Japan to collapse
The economy is now.. smaller than India😅
The USA sanctioned Japanese tech companies in the same way as how Chinese companies are sanctioned right now
See Toshiba
Forced Japanese companies to be run out by foreigners that ruined them
See Nissan
And Sony
This is how the USA maintains their number one position
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>>12920
Salty losers.
>>12920
Well there's a lession in there about being America's ally. Still it would have been interesting to see a resurgent Japan  rather than this gay timeline.
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USA to steal Taiwan's semi-conductors next.
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>>12971
Good luck with that, they know is the only thing that protects them from the chinks.
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>China has quietly drawn up a strike map for Japan 

>Beijing is signaling that if Tokyo keeps escalating over Taiwan, it will treat Japan as a “hostile state” under Articles 53, 77, and 107 of the UN Charter.

>The map outlines:

>PLA missile flight paths into Japan
>Targets across Honshu, Kyushu, and Hokkaido, many of them nuclear plants
>Launch sites in China and the Korean Peninsula
>Submarine strike zones positioned around Japan

>If Japan resumes what Beijing sees as “militaristic policies” or deeper involvement in Taiwan, China is prepared to respond with force.
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>>13093
I wonder if the two Koreas would join the fun if chinks actually started flinging missiles.
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>>13093
Wew.
>>13094
Is worst Korea not obligated to?
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>>13099
I don't think they signed any treaty that would obliged them to defend Japan, not to mention that such treaties are quite meaningless nowadays anyway. I could see them sitting it out hoping that they won't make themselves a target, but I could also imagine a scenario where they would at least shoot down missiles that would fly over their territory out of simple safety concerns. Still, I don't think they'd risk incurring the CCP's wrath, lets they order Kim-kun to flatten Seoul with conventional artillery. But then if that happened it would be all out war on the Korean peninsula, and actual ground combat would escalate the overall situation even further beyond. But if the chinks start flinging missiles at Nihon, then they are most likely invading Taiwan anyway, and at that point it could benefit them if the world was distracted by the Korean war going hot once more. But but but, what if Kim-kun doesn't actually want a war against the south?

So it's genuinely the kind of situation that could go a few different ways.
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>>13112
>such treaties are quite meaningless nowadays anyway
For the western degenerates yes, but could it really be that Japan and Korea lost their honorable ways as well? maybe the plan is to have some dude seppuku afterward and call it even?
>ground combat
On a more serious note, is the demographic pyramidtower impacting the South Korean military capability much?
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>>13112
>I don't think they'd risk incurring the CCP's wrath
Maybe it's a case of Game Theory where they weight the cost of aggression against how much aid they would receive from the US. Who knows? It's really speculative right now.
>>13140
>Japan and Korea lost their honorable ways
Those two don't have the greatest relationship these days, and historically it was atrocious.
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>>13142
>>13099
<Forgot the us korean alliance
Technically the superme commander of all ROK forces is the US military commander for Korea. So if the burgers wanted to, they should join.
Thankfully, theres no alliance with the best koreans and chinks, the norks threw a real big fit when china opened relations with worst korea and tried to align with the russians, but the slavs were too assfucked from the end of thr ussr and they had the great big famine.

Theres also non zero (minor) that china reaches an agreement with the ROK (and maybe the DPRK) to join in on the "fuck japan " train with best korea but that is unlikely
Finally there is  very unlikely) nips BTFO scenario where the PLA pulls off a sucessful invasion of Japan and worst korea is  forced to join or get assfucked by the norks and chinks. In that case its so over bros and 7th fleet is going to be anihilated in that fight, or the next one over worst china (taiwan)

It isnt in the interest of chyyna to have a united korea or vietnam. historically the stronger dynasties spent a ton of trying to beat the rest of east/southeast asia inti feudal tribuaries, and not self proclaimed "empires". Usually thry failed and they just called themselves tributary subjects. And yes, theres a difference between the term.
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that shit looks comfy as fuck
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>>13584
>consolidating top-down power for Taiwan invasion 2027
I would expect top Chinese generals to be the main supporters of a Taiwan invasion.
>The BookSlop
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this is fake, right?
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>>13741
might be for now but we will live to see interesting times
>>13741

Depends what you mean by "fake". The biped bot itself is real, but giving it a rifle and having it vault sandbags is pure theater. Those are movie blanks, and would probably fall over if it fired live ammo. Also it clearly can't actually aim the rifle. It probably took dozens of takes per shot to get them to run around and jump over stuff without staggering around like a drunk the way they usually do.

More to the point, there's absolutely no reason to field a biped as an autonomous land weapon. If this were a serious demo of ready to deploy hardware, the dog-bots would just have a turret on their backs. Why aim with legs and arms when you can just aim with a gimbal? 

But, hey, let's suppose the bugs really do mean to deploy biped bots as CQB shock troops. At least they can be defeated with a bag of marbles.
>>13746
>absolutely no reason to field a biped as an autonomous land weapon.
This is my criticism as well. The robo dogs or some new multipedal robot based on a spider or something would be infinitely better.
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>>13747
>the dog-bots would just have a turret on their backs
Give it a chainsaw tail too and it'll be perfect.
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>>13749
TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIND
>>13746
I think a better solution would be to go with tracked vehicles instead of dogs, and just put some optical cable controlled suicide drones on a few of them.
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>>13765
If you could make fully articulated robodogs or robogoats then it would beat drone micro tanks all to pieces. In the interim though a dog-tank combo it probably where it's at.
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Tokyo officially announced plans to deploy Type 03 anti-aircraft missile systems by 2031 on the island of Yonaguni, located 110 km from Taiwan. The decision was announced by Defense Minister Shigeru Kitazawa.
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Would now be a good time for China to attempt to take over Taiwan?

>>13774
What next? The female nippon Margaret Thatcher is going put a F-2s on an air-base nearby?
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>>14743
>Would now be a good time for China to attempt to take over Taiwan?
I'm sure they're monitoring the situation. If the US gets fully involved in Iran, it would be a golden two for the price of one opportunity for China.
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>>14743
China is a peace loving nation.
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>>14841
Explain the aircraft carrier then.
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>>15560
There is nothing wrong with having an aircraft carrier in your country, same as having a gun in your house.
Or a few nukes.
A nuclear nation loves peace, but you don't know if your neighbor loves peace.
>>15560
Its a carrier of peace
For the foreseeable future, there will not be a war. It is extremely unlikely. Both countries are closely economically intertwined. For example, a lot of Taiwan's chip manufacturing is due to Chinese resources and other such relationships. Neither country wants war and both benefit each other.
Taiwanese security officials says China has surged nearly 100 naval and coast guard vessels across the East and South China Seas this week, well above the usual 50–60, calling the buildup “very rare” for this period. Other officials say the expanded presence may now be the “new normal.
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>>16090
Boy that's a large woman.
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Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning (CV 16) transited through the Taiwan Strait
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>>16659
When does it transform?
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China will grow larger.
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