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lol 2d minecrap

I don't get the appeal of this game. The bosses aren't good. The regular mobs aren't good. Building isn't fun because it's 2D. It feels like most of the gameplay is just farming for shit. It's awful, honestly.

>>301352
Bosses are great, regular mobs are fun, building is great because of the restriction to 2D. That's my opinion. That and it's been constantly updated for many, many years with no increase in cost. Only downside is they recently went Body Type because they're stupid faggots embroiled in the current cultural zeitgeist like the rest of this disordered world.

Can you quantify how the bosses and mobs aren't good?

>>301349 (OP) 
>Is Terraria a metroidvania?
There's no Yes/No answer. That's just pointless semantics.

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>>301353
>Only downside is they recently went Body Type because they're stupid faggots embroiled in the current cultural zeitgeist like the rest of this disordered world.

If you download the previous version, make a character, then update the game the gender will be preserved.

>Windows 1.4.4.9
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>Linux 1.4.4.9
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>Windows 1.4.5.2
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>Linux 1.4.5.2
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>>301356
>Hey anon, can you recommend me a good metroidvania
<No such thing
>Well what about Terraria? Is it like SOTN?
<Uhh

terraria is an interior design simulator tbh
all that "exploration" and "boss rushing" is just so you can get more block types to build more houses and decorate them
but thats just my take

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>>301358
>His base looked like shit

>>301359
Commie blocks are fine and efficient

>>301353
>they recently went Body Type
I thought the body type bullshit has been there for years and what they recently added was "nonbinary" characters, as in players can mix and match body parts from A and B.
Oh well, horrible in any case

>>301353
Most of them are beaten by running in one direction or running in circles. The only boss that made me think "wow, this is a proper boss fight" was Empress of Light.

>>301350
Terraria is what Minecraft could have been if that lazy slob Notch hadn't given up on finishing his game the moment he didn't have to work anymore.

The defining feature of Metroid-likes is exploration progression gated by action abilities which function as keys to access more of the world.  Terraria has a certain degree of collectible action abilities, but it doesn't really gate progression with them to a huge degree.  Furthermore, the vast majority of them you usually obtain before fighting the first couple of bosses (hooks, double jumps, speed shoes), without only one more substantial mobility enhancement focused on after the Wall of Flesh (wings).  In fact, perhaps the largest reason to collect action abilities is not so much to explore more of the world, but to survive increasingly elaborate boss fights as the game progresses.  The world of Terraria also isn't built around ability progression since it relies entirely on procedural generation instead of level design.  Because of this it needs to be classified in a genre more substantially unique from Metroid-likes.

>>301356
The answer to this question is actually surprisingly easy to derive: is Terraria part of Konami's Castlevania series of games that borrow heavily from the mould of Super Metroid with added RPG stat mechanics?  No?  It's not even published by Konami?  Well then the answer is "No." You stupid fucking faggot.

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I feel like the only person in the world who gets upset every time there's a new Terraria update.  I've been working for ages on mastering the game enough to complete a one-life-one-world Master mode challenge, but every time I get close to finishing this it seems like they push out a new big game update that dramatically alters the game balance and wrecks the skills I've invested so much time into honing.

>>301371
What's taking you so long? I did this back in 2020. The only two things you need to do: put recall potions on an easily reachable hotkey and use one whenever you feel like you might die, and overprepare for everything (have best weapons and armor, best buffs, all potions).
It took a few failed tries, but they failed very early on. Once a run gets going it's hard to fuck up. I beat Moon Lord and every other boss and realized I had skipped Empress of Light which was brand new at the time, so I fought her expecting another easily cheesable shitty boss and I FUCKING DIED because they defied expectations and made the only real boss in the game.

>>301372
The late bosses and waves still give me trouble, and more recent game updates have had a trend of removing exploits I used to rely on for them.  Ironically I made some substantial progress upgrading my skills on newer content I was always afraid of facing last year and I'm actually quite good at beating the Empress of Light now, but I still have no idea how to handle the Moon Lord on Master mode.  I've come up with a very satisfying Queen Slime mount strategy for the Moon Lord on Expert but it just isn't good enough to survive Master mode.  I'm also still unsatisfied with the tedious amount of arena preparation I always do for Plantera, and Duke Fishron still feels like a tossup whether I'll win or lose.  The alien invasion saucer also often ruins my runs, and I don't have really have reliable strategies for the frost and pumpkin moon events.

It also doesn't help that my friends are Terraria deadbeats or casuals who won't touch Master mode, and it's hard to find the motivation to play through Master mode on softcore on my own to more effectively practice the late game content.

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>>301357
You linked the 1.4.5.2 Windows version twice. Where's the Linux one?

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>>301349 (OP) 
I used to play terraria back when it was new. Not autistically lot but I did beat the wall of flesh. I don't remember how or why, I grew to hate it, it looks like shit and sounds like shit, I think if I were to hear the cave soundtrack again I would go insane and paint a pentagram with my own blood while screaming. I simply don't know why, it is the only game that makes me feel that way. These dogshit graphics infuriate me.
Despite it taking place 15 years ago I can still imagine standing there in some boring cave swinging hammer 30 times to break some max health up heart, this slow nauseating animation, swinging my sword at the skeleton 10 swings in a row while he just moves into it doing these ungodly sounds. I cannot bear this, terraria is hell.
>>301352
This is accurate
>>301353
This is warped

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>>301379
>I think if I were to hear the cave soundtrack again I would go insane
<not embracing the madness
But yeah the version you are describing 1.1 or older I think, were pretty annoying from 1.3 it's much more of a power fantasy and caving/combat is more rewarding then ever.

>>301357
>making a save with the old version to not get the tranny version
Isn't there a mod or something?

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God this piece of shit game with 2000 infatuated updates.
Why are they still updating it and not making a new game when they could fix all their woes and go ham with new stuff in every way instead? 
You're not even milking any money and, most of the time, mods do what you do a thousand times better, so why are they even bothering?
The core loop has not changed since ML was introduced. It's all been bloat and bloat and bloat stacked on top.
And while the unique seeds are, in concept, a decent subversion, they don't change the core loop. They only make it much more annoying to go through.
This game is like their one shred of pride they're too afraid to leave behind at this point because they want people to remember that they exist?
Or they don't want to take new risks?
But there's no fucking glory to be had in adding useless new shit to a rotting corpse that was preserved and well remembered before you dug it out and started to bloat the fucking thing with useless shit until it started stinking up the fucking place.
(Btw, no, I don't believe these coffee collabs or whatever are bringing in that much money.)

>>301382
>gameplay loop
Go back to watching your video essays, son.

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>>301379
>15 years ago
it got better

>>301383
Did essay autists actually coin the term of "gameplay loop"? I'm curious.
>>301385
No it didn't you fucking footfag.

>>301382
God forbid you actually make a game worthwhile of playing and only make a sequel if it's actually worth doing so.
>indie tards shit out gov funded propagandas
>I'm indiieeeee look at me I'm not sucking 50 cocks a mile

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>>301357
>>301376

>Linux 1.4.5.2 (for real this time I swear)
https://mixdrop.top/f/el061mq8fqlgv9q
>Windows Patch to 1.4.5.3
https://mixdrop.top/f/r69pw8lqsvolw9
>Windows 1.4.5.3
https://mixdrop.top/f/jdzq9xd1c7vg49
>Linux 1.4.5.3
https://mixdrop.top/f/k0mwnzx8aw1wer

>>301379
If you make a new save with the "Drunk World" Seed you can talk to the Party Girl to change the soundtrack. Why this isn't an option in the Menu and instead a secret is beyond me but it really does improve the game.

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>>301387
Please, do tell us how shitting 5000 more cosmetics, some worthless golf system, the slime pets, the pets, and wind of all things make a game more "worthwhile of playing".
The only good changes have been: the pylons, which is made a bit worse by the fact that it also introduced the happiness bullshit.
The whips, which made a half baked class a slight bit more interesting to play. (But hybrid is just as viable and more fun in most cases.)
And the EOL, which is an actual boss instead of whatever slight bump the other "bosses" are.
A sequel allows you to optimise the base you already have, explore new ideas you couldn't implement, and add more since you're not anchored to a setting that's already set in stone.
And if a game doesn't need a sequel, then it sure as shit doesn't need 20 superfluous updates that does fucking nothing stapled on top of it.

>>301389
What's your favorite game, angry anon? What is a good game?

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How come everybody tries to discuss a game on here somebody has to get angry about it?

>>301391
I swear it's basically feds basically being paid to shit on anything that's actually good and anything bad is just natural except for the part it was funded by these cocksuckers but the bad shit is basically being forced upon your eyes. It doesn't make sense at all otherwise.
Like how would you really even make a sequel to Terraria without a good chunk of time and a updated/different engine? Even if you were to make it people would likely complain that it has less content despite that all they could do is just add QOL make new bosses/revise them. Which people would likely complain that it's just like isaac being remade

>>301394
>I swear it's basically feds basically being paid to shit on anything that's actually good
What is it complexly?

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>>301396
The only other alternatives is third world monkeys and chat bots being inserted into any sort of social sites to poison the discussion.  All this behavior and so called modern "games" are too suspect to be fucking natural.

>fake indie shit but dude cybershit and new vegas

>retards making entire fanfics out of thin air 
>No discussion of the said angry posts, the video game or OP's question
<Dude feds haha 
>no you can't say you don't like the worthless updates the game is perfect nooo 
<haha guys remember to change your genders on the old version that's totally gonna own the dev team 
I'm just gonna hide this shit thread
You people are making me remember why I left these shitholes years ago
And to answer Op's question: I'm on the same mind as >>fe76ff
The game does not really "require" anything per say to get through, and some people have done the entire game omitting entire mechanics (npcs, crafting, fucking movement keys of all things, etc.)
Meanwhile, a metroidvania will just plainly have you need to get movement abilities or just "can't go past here without x thing" moments. Unless you glitch the fuck out of the game, of course.

>>301406
Stop throwing tantrums when people discuss things you don't like. Go take a fucking ambien or something you perpetually butthurt loser.

>>301391
lots of gamers are nolife autists with very strong opinions on their hobbies because they have nothing else going on in their lives and a lot of free time to argue online because they literally nothing else going on in their lives

>>301409
whats going on in your life that's so important for  you to keep posting here? we know, normalfaggot or would me calling you failed normalfaggot make you feel better?

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>>301388
I think that whoever drew that picture and anyone who's attracted to that muscly body type is a closeted homosexual.

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>>301418
>muscly body type
leave some food for the rest of us and stop breathing so loud, you revolting hambeast

>>301418
I concur. 
>>301419
<as I resisted the urge to indulge in food my taste became more homosexual
Soon you won't even want her, as you get used to denying yourself things you will get into femdom and or ntr. 
>>301349 (OP) 
Do you like such popular games because they are never finished? Do you get depressed when you beat a video game?

>>301421
>Do you like such popular games because they are never finished? Do you get depressed when you beat a video game?
Terraria is beatable so I wouldn't consider it a "never finished" game. Free updates are always appreciated as long as they don't take away content. I don't believe that anyone is loosing out whenever a developer adds more to a game instead of making a new one, as the next game could easily be total dog shit. I understand the frustration when studios like Bungie or Yacht Club get locked into developing forever games but there is no guarantee that the man hours spent updating an existing game would have been put towards anything worthwhile.

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>>301421

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>>301418
I prefer to be gay than  a pedophile.

>>301425
That's what I get for dieting and exercising!
<this hurts I want to stop *keeps running like a bitch*
>I want to take it out of my ass but I won't
<I want to eat like a king but I will eat like a woman instead
>you can have my sandwhich Tyrone I don't need it
>>301429
Funny how gays nor witches were accepted before the period of ((( Enlightenment ))) and how the word/concept of pedo did not even exist back when being a sodomite and or a Satanic person was bad. 

About famous Wangblow games: If it is not ported to Android it likely is skippable.  Kotor for example I have for Android though the text is too small unless you have an eleven inch tablet or are using an external monitor. Kotor isn't a clone (of Super Metroid) though so I must sage. I wonder what it could be considred a clone of? Naw, it was actually good.

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>>301418
>Muscular
What? Dude, what the fuck are you talking about? Why are you using a pic of Freddy? You're talking like she's a giant deviant monstrosity when all she has is some slight arm definition.

>>301434
Her shoulders are bigger than her hips. That makes her a male with gyno. In this case it is gayno. I will now call that body type gayno, or more properly typed as case sensitive: GayNO.

>>301429
>if a woman isn't muscled like a man, she's a prepubescent child
We know gaybro, we know.

>>301418
Just because I want an 8 foot tall woman to carry me doesn't make me gay. Now the people who like roided out looking women are DEFINITELY gay.

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>>301418
>sees a big-breasted woman whose arms aren't sticks and doesn't look roided up
>starts sperging about homosexuals
If you were a premodern peasant, you would have memed yourself out of the gene pool by refusing to marry or fuck a woman strong enough to do the laundry and other household tasks. There's a good reason the Bible says the ideal wife "girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms."

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>>301447
>The sight of Nietzsche without his mustache reveals instantly who he truly was
What? Meds.
>There's a good reason the Bible says the ideal wife "girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms."
<MUH JEWBOOOK!!
Go cut some foreskins and kiss some nigger feet, chirstranny.

Holy fuck would you faggots shut up already?

>>301449
>>301436
Perpetual penis on the mind, regardless of what you see, means you are gay.

>>301449
>meds
Saying that in defense of Nietzche is kek material

>>301447
Reveals what? He looks like a normal person.

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>>301447
Alright, now I'm even more confused; what does trying to besmirch ol' Fred have to do with defending tomboys?

>>301453
That sounds like the arguments that transvestites use to insist that the only reason people complain about them is because they have a secret desire to engage in an imitation of coitus with their mutilated bodies.

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Wasn't this a Terraria thread?  Rate my latest biome hotel design anons.  I recently overhauled my typical setup and am pretty pleased with this.

>>301491
Looks like a penis

>>301491
Why not put the pylon on top?

>>301495
Because then you're exposed to potential danger when you warp.

>>301497
Do you mean that as a roleplay thing? Enemies don't immediately spawn when you warp to a new area and enemy spawn is reduced when 3 or more villagers are present. Also a wraith could kill you in the struggle to get out if you had a weaker armor set equipped, but since you're already far enough along to get cyborg I fail to see what could threaten you spawning outside.

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>>301498
This is a generalized pylon hotel design, that's just a snapshot of it at a given moment in time.  I play on Hardcore Master mode more than anything, where catastrophic failure is never more than a few seconds of carelessness away.  3 villagers may not always be present at a given time for any number of reasons, and during events like Blood Moons they can't suppress the spawn rates anyway.  At minimum I always want to warp somewhere with a wall at my back so I don't have to worry about a wyvern spawning to fuck my shit up in areas that are a little too close to the sky.

As for wraiths and reapers, they are one of the reasons I usually build floating hotels in the first place, or at least try to keep warp points and NPC housing a minimum height above the surrounding terrain.  Not pictured in other image is a biome lake below the hotel for convenient and safe fishing.  That's what the holes and toilet (+5 fishing power) are there for on the bottom floor.

>>301504
>That's what the holes and toilet (+5 fishing power) are there for on the bottom floor.
Oh fug I didn't know that. Nvm you seem to have this shit figured out.

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>>301475
His sanpaku says otherwise, and in photos where his moustache is shaved, his lips always have this displeased, uncomfortable, and vaguely fearful look to them. It also brings out the awkwardness of his glare and a sort of nervous tension you can see in his facial muscles.
Growing that moustache was probably the best thing Nieztsche ever did for his image and legacy. It overwhelms the rest of his face and tends to become the thing the artist's eye and the eye of the memory latches onto. Any sign that he isn't the image he wishes to project of himself is overlooked or covered, and the effect is so strong that it covers not only much of his face, but his fate as well.
>>301486
>lovenstein

I'm actually contemplating uninstalling Terraria. As petty as is, I despise the faggy "heads" sprite art for characters now.
The party girl in the head art while talking to her is utterly different to her ya know physical fuckin' sprite. Did people forget she's based on Pinkie Pie too?
What the fuck man. Anyhow what bugs me is, the portrait art looks like shit & tact on because it is.

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>>301521
The newest update lets you disable portraits or have the sprite be the portrait. Also apparenlty you can download portrait packs somewhere.

>>301521
I don't like them much myself, mostly just because I always thought it was more charming to think of characters as their low-resolution appearances.

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>>301357
>>301388

>Windows Patch 1.4.5.3 -> 1.4.5.4
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>Windows 1.4.5.4
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>Linux 1.4.5.4
https://mixdrop.top/f/gjknm1xgcxrk46

Do people really run completely unknown software posted by anonymous users?

>>301531
Only if it has funny passwords.

>>301531
I trust my fellow anon and so should you

>>301531
in this day and age, anonymous are a more trustworthy distributor than many official vendors

>>301522
Well I may take a look. Don't enjoy how the devs have "balanced" this game over the years passed 1.3 even. Listening to reddit & adding body types.. yeah no. I hate niggers like this I also found out the main dev of this game is a smarmy kike from Israel that wastes al ot of money on Gachashit. 
So NO WONDER HE HAS NO TASTE
>>301524
Eh, the sprite work on the standalone NPC's is actually decent.

>>301559
>Don't enjoy how the devs have "balanced" this game over the years passed 1.3 even.
This is a surprising take to me.  You really don't like that they made more class-based specializations viable?  You don't like that they finally made melee weapons more competitive with ranged weaponry?

>>301563
lol?
They turned most "melee" weapons into throwables or stuff that hits at range. Class specialization is whatever but not all of them are viable especially when they get nerfed in retarded ways.
Does listening to reddit for balance not perturb you too? Those fuckers couldn't do game design if it bite them on the ass giving them a bug to make them specialized at it.

>>301564
>They turned most "melee" weapons into throwables or stuff that hits at range.
It's about the best the game is going to get in terms of melee balance unless they added some integral short-range mobility mechanics like rolls or parries, which would fundamentally change Terraria.  As it is, Terraria has never really had the sort of limited enemy design that works well with really short-range weaponry.  Just contrast for example Castlevania (especially the non-Metroidvania ones) monsters and bosses with Terraria's.  About mid-way through the game Terraria's enemies become substantially more mobile than Castlevania's.  Castlevania can justify the slow, deliberate mobility of a guy with a whip by setting hard restrictions on what enemies are allowed to do.  Increasing the range of various melee weaponry was the logical solution for Terraria's situation.

>>301563
>you really don't like them making melee weapons ranged to make them compete with ranged?
RANGED: shoots projectiles, has minions
MAGIC: shoots projectiles, has minions
MELEE: shoots projectiles, has minions
SUMMONER: shoots projectiles, has minions

Nigger, the "class system" in this is a joke and they all play the exact same.

>>301569
nuh-uh
magic weapons are way cooler than all the others

>>301447
>who he truly was
what, a cute twink?

>>301509
is it even possible not to have sanpaku when looking at something above you?

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>>301526
Not that anyone cares but for posterity here are the latest patches.

>Windows Patch 1.4.5.4. -> 1.4.5.5.
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>Windows 1.4.5.5.
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>Linux 1.4.5.5.
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>>301418
You triggered half of this retarded board with a single post, congratulations.

>>301409
Truthnvke.

I thought about hosting a game now that the updates have stabilized and I don't have to play the usual game of GOG releases being a week behind Steam patches pushed on DRM lovers, but I don't have much confidence in this board tbh.  Maybe someone else would like to.