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I think this is big enough deal to merit pulling it out of the 'news' page into its own thread. If you don't know what's going on, a bunch of states have pulled a fast one on us and are trying to/have passed age verification laws in various states in the U.S. on the operating system level.
- Lunduke's Journal has been having a spree providing updates on it ( lunduke.substack.com )
- I made my own page to try to keep track on what you can do. Please think about sharing it (or something): https://websitereview.neocities.org/ageverification
- Reclaim the Net has a campaign trying to counter it https://reclaimthenet.org/age-verification
- The EFF has a campaign https://www.eff.org/issues/age-verification .
I've included some minor links suggested by >>18007 and >>18008 . Please keep in mind I'm a moron and don't know what I'm doing, but felt something should be done here. Please share your own sites, updates, and thoughts on the situation.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER.
>>18011 (OP) 
I for one support tyranny as it enables a black market being stronger.
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>>18013
I don't support tyranny.
i support tranny
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>>18011 (OP) 
>I'm a moron
the cat gif already gave it away
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>>18011 (OP) 
Yeah, a seperate thread is likely a good idea for keeping track of this stuff. I might as well post anything relevant I find here in case someone else finds a use for it.
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Skimmed some of the legalese about regulating "operating system vendors" in regards to age verification, but is there some agreed upon definition of what even constitutes an "operating system"? Everything from graphing calculators to microwave ovens have "operating systems" and there are no doubt vendors vending them, but is my computer running an operating system? I'm not so sure. There wasn't even a vendor involved. I just took a little code from over here and a little code from over there and compiled it with a little more code from over there. Would a collection of tarballs constitute an operating system in potential? If I compiled the contents of various tarballs from various sources in such a way that my build functions as one, am I then an operating system vendor? If I can verify my own age could I then vend it to myself? Lawyers should have a fun time with the this bullshit legislation.
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>>18019
There's also the question of what a compliant "age verification signal" is, is it more than a line in the @finger info of your account's passwd file? Depends on how much attention the bureacratic harpy in your government is paying, or how paranoid your distro's legal team feels.

I'm not scared of these bills themselves as written, I'm scared of the clear attitude of malice behind the fumbling hands that wrote them, and the wanton irresponsibility of the mindless rubber stampers that abet them.

They must be told in no uncertain terms that, just like prior attempts in the '90s & '00s, nobody wants what they're selling.
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>>18023
I'm against this stuff even as written. Look at how the U.K. has used it.
>>18017
Then DO something, you astroturfed Indian chatbot.
>>18018
thx
The current list of states proposing it on the OS level has expanded. Here's the current list:
California
Colorado
Illinois
Louisiana
New York
Texas
Utah
System76 is supposedly trying to carve out an open source exemption. Canonical and Fedora are doing jack shit.
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>>18037
Current status AFAIK it.
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Yet another attempt at this on the federal level:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/3149/text
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>>18016
>the trans population goes from 1 percent to 2 percent 
>everybody loses their minds
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>>18037
Who are the sponsors of such legislation? They have names and reputations in addition to re-election campaigns to protect no doubt. They should be humiliated for being useful idiots or just straight up idiots whatever the case.
>>18042
Please help with that.
>>18038
That's a confusing choice of colors. Should've been more like:
Green - GOD's COUNTRY
Yellow - Proposed App level
Orange - Passed App level
Red - Proposed OS level
Darker red - Passed App/Proposed OS
Brown - Passed OS level
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>>18042
>>18045
Because they are virtue signalling that it is for the children to be protected from the supposed horrors of porn you can't argue against such a thing with pearl clutching misandrist  FemNazi normalfaggots. What is the argument going to be? LIke with VPN you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide. Wanting to be anonymous just makes one sound like a criminal and normalfags hate criminals. If they are such idiots then why are they overly educated rich people with tons of money? Ridiculing such people would be hard when the type that would want to protect anonymity would never stick their neck out with their real identity in the first place so no one is going to try to go against it due to this; you'd only ironically humiliate yourself doing so. 
<let me copyright infringe maaaan who cares if the kids are watching porn they're gonna do it anyway
Sounds like greedy and sociopathic "pedophilia apologism" to normalfags as they think that if kids will see porn it will groom them into being sexually 'abused' (in reality they're going to have sex faster if not sated by porn and if you looked up porn you were already horny in the first place). If someone breaks one law they figure they break them all as all laws are sinful and all sins are equal in the eyes of god to many christians. Christiand don't like porn at all, they want to do away with it. Also everyone knows that if you pay someone for sex and record it then it's no longer a hooker and that makes this feminist world very mad of which is what this is really all about but no one ever tells their true (v)agenda (they hate men using women as it implies that they were worth only their sex appeal and empowered women are all old hags so sex work insults them). In reality not having porn means you'd have sex more but they were only pretending to care about kids the entire time and will pretend that sex irl is more healthy than porn. The worst part is that you'll agree, won't you? To not agree you'd have to play the "but literal cheese pizza would lower the rate that pedos attack children" to make porn sound positive but freedom of expression does not allow you to say that and you would be arrested for 'defending pedophilia' even though in reality you didn't. Logically only illegal stuff should be porn is the point here and that would give everyone and their mother the vapors to be that logical so there's no point in arguing with moralfaggots and rest assured politicians are professional moralfaggots that do not actually care about efficiency nor protecting anybody nor any thing. It's about cat and mouse. They want to catch a criminal. Laws are often passed to try to cheat their way into a criminal's life through one way or another such as by stopping people without a bicycle light on an frisking them for drugs. You allowed such a policy to exist but did not care as you were not a nigger on a bicycle. You were breaking the law copyright infringing and being antisemitic, breaking the law like a nigger, but you were not a nigger so you did not care. "First they came for x but I did not care as I was not x". One could say that the digital economy is not the same thing as a bike being stolen off a porch but a pawn shop bicycle goes for about 100 dollars and most people pay 3k a month for rent on average. The government steal more from you than that nigger does and niggers usually only attack niggers so why do you care about niggers? You hate kikes for being rich and yet you hate the idea of communism making everyone poor. It's just hypocrasy from everyone and you think you can out argue a politician that's virtue signalling that it's for the children? You cannot refute their logic without saying "I am an antinatalist and a misanthrope and I do not care what happens to normalfag children give me my illegal downloads plz". 

People like ((( Jerry Springer ))) used to go on about how they wanted to take porn away but no one gave a shit. He's jewish after all and jews want to sell porn. I hate reality tv myself but the point is that people have known that the powers were trying to attack freedom for literal ever. Like, where I live it says just paying for a place for a woman to stay is soliciting a prostitute. If you buy a woman dinner and she has sex with you you just arguably solicited a prostitute. In other states just living with a woman might mean you married without even having a wedding also. It's a christianity bullshitery sorta thing but also feminism as it makes women fume that they lost their holy hymen and he didn't marry her and these women that were dumb and got pumped and dumped are empowered in politics and when they're not they're still married to powerful men that are in politics. These women care about the children more than the men also and only a fool would question that. 

VPN, proxies, Tor, it's all going to be banned/broken and to make sure no one feels anonyous enought to do things like fap or copyright infringe, nor talk in unethical ways, ever again. They want you to see your real name every three seconds when you are on a computer to feel watched so you will behave better. I grew up that way myself, my family did not let us have our own computer and threatened to check the cameras and Internet history. I never used it and fucked shit up irl instead and they never knew that I fucked shit up irl because irl the camera won't follow you around. Once it does you'd logically act like a nigger and be proud of doing time. They say 'fuck these rules these are white people ruels' and you'll say 'fuck these rules these rules are misandrist and or jewish'. That is the future. Your new operating systems won't have backwards compatibility with older software so things like emulators and dvd ripping/burning software and such won't work. It's all part of the little games they play to see how far they can take it, the game, and to see just how much people will let their power be taken away whilst thanking them for being tyrannical and they will thank them and they will be happy. 

We will all be safer and media will get better once it's no longer damaged by copyright infirnging and racism will go away once we are no longer passing it down safely via imageboards and such anymore. Even if the games get worse you were being degenerate not working hard and having kids anyway. You hated niggers but were breaking the law like one anyway. What even would your argument against their policy be, that you're a criminal that hates children and brown people? You know you yourself don't want kids watching porn anyway so you already agree with everything they are doing morally.
*all law breaking is sinful as the bible says you must obey the laws of the land
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>>18047
The watermark tells you the url where you could make your own, better version.
So, please help with that.
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>>18039
Apparently, that legislation impacts most mainline linux package managers.
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>>18047
>>18051
Update:
This is where age verification is currently at in the U.S.. It's beginning to happen on the OS level. It's already passed in Brazil at the base level. Canada, New Zealand, and the U.K. have fallen. It's being proposed in the EU ("International Digital Strategy") and Australia.
Reclaim the Net and the Electronic Frontier Foundation have campaigns ongoing to help stop it. The Free Speech Coalition has a campaign to support it (they want their own version of it). The Free Software Foundation is mute on the issue.
System 76 is currently lobbying Colorado, Omarchy is not complying, and MidnightBSD is changing their license to fuck out of California. Fedora and Canonical are both mute on the issue and appearing to not even be lobbying about it either way. Discussions are ongoing in Debian and Archlinux forums to take the MidnightBSD approach.
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There's this: https://agelesslinux.org/

>>18055
Those colors are better, but I guess brown should be dark brown, darker than dark red. Or maybe black, with the state name as white. Green and red could also be a bit brighter.
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>>18052
>>>/v/agina
Have any of you guys had encounters with families that obsessively tracked their kids' every move? My impression is that they don't actually prepare their children for any kind of  responsibility or independence, and that when their kids move out they either continue living inside a bubble or encounter the raw, unfiltered world and get fucked up. It's as if some people completely forget they're supposed to be raising children and not just protecting them.
>>18058
Not a bad idea.
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>>18055
I liked the colors before, this looks like eye cancer
>An open-source intelligence investigation into how Meta Platforms built a multi-channel influence operation to pass age verification laws that shift regulatory burden from social media platforms onto Apple and Google's app stores.
https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
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Age verification is unconstitutional regardless of content. At worst there should be a check on a adult site.
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>>18065
Good. Please tell your representatives that, too.
>>18064
I am really glad to see this. This shit is where autists shine.
I'm sure that those xitter fags who cried about "gooners" all day will be glad when their shitposts get them fired from their job. No sympathy. This is what they get.
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>>18061
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter_parent
I've known parents who really, REALLY helicopter. As in leave cameras on in their bedroom level and cross that boundary from helicoptering to just downright creepy to maybe something really nasty is going on.
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>>18070
You seem like the type of "person" who wishes this ((( wikipedia ))) article applied to you.
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>>18071
>>18068
>>18059
>>18049
How much are you getting paid to shit on this one thread?
>>18072
You're retarded to assume every post you just quoted was made by the same person or party. Go fuck yourself.
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>>18073
Sounds like I hit the mark.
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>>18074
You didn't hit anything, you're a schizophrenic loser who imagines bullshit rules for "winning" exchanges on anonymous imageboards.
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>>18042
>>18045
This is some redditor's TL;DR investigation: https://archive.ph/eauof
>>18042
>Who are the sponsors of such legislation
>>18045
>>18076
TL;DR
JEWS
Either through JEW corpos, or using your money through government funded PACs.
>>18072
Maybe if you were getting paid you'd be motived enough to have an actual retort to >>18059 | >>18049 of which are my posts. The other guy is assmad and my tone is jaded and sardonic. 
>>18075
>>18074
You're both low effort.
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>>18049
>>18050
My go-to argument is that there are two kinds of laws:
1) True laws that are universalist and consistent, such that their they can be rigorously defined and enforced impartially. Cover subjects such as violence, possession, contract, etc.. Whether or not they're desirable laws, their substance can at least be agreed on.
2) False laws, largely reliant on subjective opinion. Their purpose is not to be consistently enforced, rather it is to provide a pretext for the holder of authority to enforce or ignore any action, on anyone, for any reason or no reason, without any grounds for question. Cover subjects such as censorship, surveillance, identity. It is naked, absolute power, exerting itself untrammeled by law.

This isn't just dangerous because "what if the other side gets control over it later?", it's dangerous because it's a yawning vortex of infinite tyranny that utterly corrupts anyone who wields it.


>>18076
Some solid investigative work, but man, those comments:
>us bad, eu gud, even though our courts have been better about slapping down these laws than theirs
>this is all the gop's fault, even though these bills sail through votes unanimously across states blue and red
>this is clearly a heckin scheme to genocide faggotroons, not tech illiterate boomers booming into the innertubes yet again at the behest of bioluminescent americans 
I wish Reddit could stop being so insufferable for even a moment even as they're being marched to the gallows with us
>>18080
>I wish Reddit could stop being so insufferable for even a moment even as they're being marched to the gallows with us
I'm not sure what's worse: reddit's insufferability or--well--just read how helpful the posters in this thread are. You're absolutely correct, but at least those assholes are actually doing something. Here the thread is just devil's advocate trolling and complaining while being too lazy to even change colors on a map let alone actually even send an email to a rep. It's kind of eye opening: I can see why our side consistently loses now.
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>>18072
The actual shilling was a gradual process over several years, seeding in the public the idea that resisting censorship is morally wrong and unattractive. You were the one who was too busy shitting your pants over bad movies and wars on the other side of the planet to do anything about it.
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>>18088
Hey everyone else, this is the sort of stuff I'm talking about. Look how much this guy is helping this cause out. People like this guy are why boards like this die and stuff like this gets passed in our operating systems.
>>18058
Nice agorist solution, sir. You are a good example of someone helping, thank you.
>>18055
Good update. You are a good example of putting in some amount of legwork, thanks.
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>>18090
>tvchan
I like how seagul deleted my comment in a thread wherein you posted this website killing spam and your shit got left up. You do reailze that tvchan is dead for a reason, right? Stop posting the exact same 50 images over and over again. I also like how the comment of mine was pointing out how normalfaggoty a poster was and then his retort was that he was just there to troll but he used a German word to exploit the moderator's amygdala. It's funny that you people feel that way when I'm far better at it. One of those 'can dish it out but not take it' sort of things. Also the reaction vid used when saying he was just there to troll (as a normalfaggot) has been posted many times there. I should start using the same reaction files over and over again, it'd not be insane at all. Kind of like how voting and then seeing society get worse is not insane at all when you keep sending letters and you keep voting, surely something good will eventually happen if you keep doing the same shit over and over again. Sure sure. A bunch of frogs being slowly boiled alive won't hop out of their pots, that is why I support tyranny. We need them to push harder or you won't push back.  Your ilk worships a homosxual porn star and does not even post porn in general on your website, how gay can you get? You know you were booted from the webring at one point due to be 'that bad'. You won't even stop your 'essay fag' spammer  due to him being half your traffic on a very dead low traffic site. All it'd take is some wordfilters and captcha. There's so much to talk about in regards to hollyjew movies but nobody is ever going to say shit until you fix your website. Well, maybe outside of /dunk/ but everyone is going to start with /dunk/  as everyone starts with /b/ and /dunk/ is /b/ and with how bad /dunk/ is that kills the site. I just checked and even in tv and movies the first comment you click is that essay fag spammer again posting mark over and over again. If you want to not use that site then stop acting like an illegal alien and leave yoru shitskin behaior behind where you came from and that means stop posting that image. 
<but you're libertarian!
Let me post daisy's destruction and shit and we'll see how long you last, nigger lover. You've got a handicap on in that game of spamming. If we still gore bombed people like you would get your twelve year old asses off of the Internet and into therapy where you belong. 

>>18089
Wanna know what leg work is? When you and your buddy actually move your legs as you walk outside, shoot someone that pissed upon libertarianism, and burry the body in the woods so there will be no murder investigation as it will never ever be found. That's leg work. What we're all doing right now is bitching and hoping the kike smiles, roles his eyes and tables your spanking for later. His kids will need to cut their teeth on the goyim later on anyway of which is why they are not doing it to all areas at once mind you. They're learning how to better handle us with every new Commiefornian or Jew Yorkian experiment. I laughed seeing that Texas cares, that's the only thing that suprised me in this thread. Then again they are rigth wing Americans and their current officlal stance on children and them getting ahold of porn is that 'oh god what if porn turns my boy GAY' so of coursr their mkultra'd asses would side with commiefornia and jew york at this point. One too many jewtubers with a beard and a baseball cap indoor stold them the lefts were after their kids. Guess who programs computers? Left wingers. 

>>18088
People are afraid of not censoring due to legal trouble or there'd not be censorship all the way onto this very website. On places like reddit or halfcuck they pulled their funding if they were not polite. WE could have ran things with p2p but then the feds would upload cp so no, course not. Hou can't handle that. 

>>18080
There is only 1 kind of law: rich man quells poor man. Law is meant to be tyrannical. They know where you live you don't know where they live. It's been this way for generations. We've not had libertarianism on the Internet even since the 1990s and you people get the vapors that they're making the Internet even worse. Your goal should have been to brake all laws. Remember Neo? He broke "virtually every law" the agent said. The system is broken.  You are guilty until proven innocent or thigns like bail would be what you children are pissy about instead. Lawyers wont' even take cases unless you pay then tons as it's a risk otherwise. 

>>18087
Yes, because they /r/epresent us, these politicians. Vote harder you redditor you. Send them an email about how jews are bad next, that'll go over well when their assistant reads it and tosses it into a trashcan  just like all the other mail they get. Well, now days it'll be read by AI so you won't even get that. Dunce. You're why we are no longer judged by a jury of our actual peers, faggot enabler. All their talk is lies and what it boils down to is that the rich don't represent us, the rich are those politicians, rich people brake whatever laws they please and get away with it, you should be able to do the same and you do. Rather than have  a jet and a lawyer you should have the black market in  empowered in your neighborhood.  That's the 'local' thing that represents us that is not even there
 yet due to a lack of tyranny. These richies can just hop on a jet and go to wherever something is legal and do whatever they want including copyright infringe but they want you to pay for their media slop as they are royalty and you are a peasant and no you cannot choose to be rich in current times.  The point of the devil's advocate post is that you have no argument against such people. We need them to get worse so we can fight them, the powers, otherwise you just made yourself look like the enemy, and you are. Peace was never an option. They don't want to hear what you have to say and when forced to it only matters if all of reddit indeed ruined their little voting statitics, thus you want normalfaggotry to protect you, normalfaggot. I remember redditors going on and on about how normal it is for kids to watch porn. Why don't we see how that conversation goes instead of beat around the bush? Can you handle it? I for one know you can't as I've seen too many comments get whiped for saying the 'wrong' thing even here. It is not about saying anything, it is not about negotiating, they are against you, law makers, rich people, normalfaggots, everyone is against you. 

t. >>18013 >>18040 >>18049 >>18059 >>18079
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tl;dr: I don't care about this thread.
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>>18080
>Some solid investigative work, but man, those comments
>I wish Reddit could stop being so insufferable for even a moment even as they're being marched to the gallows with us
If it helps at all, it's pretty obvious a lot of his post is AI generated, and he admits to using AI to source a lot of his claims. Fuckers can't even dig properly or do web searches anymore, as they evidently need a neural network to do it for them.
>>18087
I'm reminded of that one think-tank piece which concluded the best way to destroy imageboards wasn't through outright shilling, but by flooding them with posts so inspid that anyone interesting or potentially dangerous would get bored and leave.
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>>18089
You need to get a thicker skin.
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>>18094
>a lot of his post is AI generated
As several of the Redditors there complain, the worst effect of that isn't any factual errors OP may have failed to check, but just the sheer volume of redundant wordswordswords he didn't trim, making it needlessly harder to read.
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>>18097
https://tboteproject.com/git/hekate/attestation-findings
This one says it was Meta all along. There is also this video featuring Mental Outlaw saying zionist occupation government:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=4KyiLyOxux8
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>>18101
Note that video's source you linked is a mirror of >>18064 >>18076 posted upthread.

Niche partisan opinionstubers aside, I think this issue does actually seem to have finally breached normalfag consciousness as well this week, though there's no telling how long that will last. Hopefully enough anger can be stoked to remind legislators not to blindly rubber stamp it, and judges to mop up everything that's already passed.

Thinking about the chain of events that kicked off this latest wave of dumb crap, I wonder if there's any hope for Bongland to reverse their insane net nanny nonsense now that the Tories and Labour are both self-immolating. Again.
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Looks like even the faggots over at eff joined the fight, for what it's worth.
>>18102
Well, at least we have one more mirror now.
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>>18094
>>18095
>I'm reminded of that one think-tank piece which concluded the best way to destroy imageboards wasn't through outright shilling, but by flooding them with posts so inspid that anyone interesting or potentially dangerous would get bored and leave.
You have to assume it's already going on even in this thread let alone the webring boards. I've been counting on the fact that a board is VERY slow moving/low-post count not being as much of a target as a way to avoid this (low threat target risk); but it's likely that you can't count on that anymore.
You're right it's a problem. I've no idea how you counter it.
Interestingly though, instead of not going to imageboards, personally I've found that it's the mainstream places (mainly Youtube for me) has been flooded with so many insipid videos that I've stopped watching it. I feel like what that paper fails to account for is that the real standard is "What's the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry".
>>18097
We're getting there. The Mental Outlaw ( >>18101 )/Techlore/Lunduke videos are all converging on the single sentence "Meta paid Digital Childhood Alliance as a lobbyist proxy" talking point.
>>18102
My guess is it'll end up like COPA PIPA FOSTA etc. etc. where the moment it loses momentum it fails to go anywhere past committee after that point.
>Thinking about the chain of events that kicked off this latest wave of dumb crap, I wonder if there's any hope for Bongland to reverse their insane net nanny nonsense now that the Tories and Labour are both self-immolating. Again.
I can't see it happening. I don't fully understand the polsci behind it, but when a law gets passed it basically never gets repealed.
But, idk. After all, the U.K. will be the first time in history a two-party system collapses. So, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the U.K. in the near future overall.
>>18104
Yeah, >>18055 , EFF and Reclaim the Net are the only two nonprofits in on the fight atm. FSF is mute on it afaik, which surprises the absolute fuck out of me. It's interesting how it seems people have converged on three fights with this: over the states, over the nonprofits, and over the distros. You'd think the latter two would've automatically had our back on this one.
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>>18106
>FSF is mute on it afaik
https://web.archive.org/web/20241211205834/https://digdeeper.club/graves/freetardism.xhtml
Because FSF was never about actual Freedom, but rather about pedantic pilpul cultism. Same thing with Stallman, remember, he was all for forced Covid injections.
As long as the age verification/ID check/rectal check shit can be implemented under the GPL license, they're fine with it.
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>You have to assume it's already going on even in this thread let alone the webring boards.
The document does bring up endchan, so they were definitely aware of the webring. We also get enough fed attention to get CP spam, so it's way more likely that we get bots shitting up the place than it is that we get game industry shills (most of the time, anyways).
>You're right it's a problem. I've no idea how you counter it.
That's part of the problem. Sperging out and accusing everyone who's a bit of a cunt of being a fed or neural network (in this scenario, that is) plays into their strategy of making imageboards nothing but dull infighting.
The only thing I've really come up with so far is just trying to be a better poster myself and either using more reaction images or making more spontaneous image edits. The latter is a bit difficult in practice though, as contemporary imageboards are so dull that it's hard to find inspiration for funny edits the way I did on 8chan and the early webring. I'm not saying this to shittalk /tech/ in particular, it's just my experience nowadays. I literally have an easier time making shitposts based off conversations with guys at church than I do on modern imageboards, and that's pretty sad when imageboards used to be the gold standard for meming.
>Interestingly though, instead of not going to imageboards, personally I've found that it's the mainstream places (mainly Youtube for me) has been flooded with so many insipid videos that I've stopped watching it.
Yeah, those are utter dogshit. It's so bad that I often have more success researching niche topics with Wiby than I do more mainstream search engines, as everything else is flooded with endless AI sites and unhelpful answers from Reddit and StackOverflow.
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>>18106
Legislative repeals are indeed rare, but laws getting struck down or gutted by the courts is pretty common, even in Bongistan. The amount of raeg over attempts to ban private VPNs definitely indicates one step too far.
>FSF
Closest thing I could find was this reaction to when Dicksword hopped on the bandwagon:
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/2026-discord-doesnt-deserve-your-unquestioning-trust
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>>18111
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>That's part of the problem. Sperging out and accusing everyone who's a bit of a cunt of being a fed or neural network (in this scenario, that is) plays into their strategy of making imageboards nothing but dull infighting.
>The only thing I've really come up with so far is just trying to be a better poster myself and either using more reaction images or making more spontaneous image edits.
You're a better man that me.
>Yeah, those are utter dogshit. It's so bad that I often have more success researching niche topics with Wiby than I do more mainstream search engines, as everything else is flooded with endless AI sites and unhelpful answers from Reddit and StackOverflow.
It's strange, I was expecting if things got so bad the MSM internet fell that it'd be MAD. I guess we're the cockroaches after the bomb.
>>18114
>laws getting struck down or gutted by the courts is pretty common, even in Bongistan.
Fair.
Updates on OS front:
- Adenix is planning to not comply (he has madd a nice statement in the Debian mailing list https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2026/03/msg00022.html ).
- Canonical has not made a statement, but has been looking at something re dbus to comply.
- Fedora has not made a statement, but is looking at ways to comply.
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>>18107
>FSF was never about actual Freedom, but rather about pedantic pilpul cultism. Same thing with Stallman, remember, he was all for forced Covid injections.
Well Richard Stallman is literally, genetically, and ethnically 100% jewish.
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>>18127
>Melt down
>Literally just gets a slight bit angry and smacks his water in the confrontation of stupidity
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>>18132
typical propaganda
expects the viewer to not possess critical thinking and just accept exaggerated claims at face value
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https://reclaimthenet.org/brazil-digital-eca-age-verification-law
Well, it looks like Age Verification took effect in Brazil toda--
>Rockstar Games, maker of Grand Theft Auto and Red Dead Redemption, announced that as of March 16, digital titles are “no longer purchasable from the Rockstar Games Store or Rockstar Games Launcher by our Brazilian players.”
>The company didn’t attempt compliance on its own storefront. It simply withdrew from it, redirecting Brazilian customers 
...stop making me like age verification.
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>>18132
>>18135
I guess I could have chosen a better file for that post or maybe not included one at all but that shouldn't take away from the fact that he's literally jewish with all that implies. I personally thought that video in particular highlighted his jew personality but whatever.
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>>18140
Hey, how come the Jews haven't run out the Democratic party yet for not backing them in their war against Iran?
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>>18141
Because there are different kinds of jews enacting different methodologies of subversion that are still part of the same spiritual/material death and or enslavement cult despite seeming conflicting on the surface?
Huemonkey here, regarding the retard law in Brazil, first I have to explain how retarded it is, the government in the same fucking law demands that all OS providers and service providers must identify the user, observe user behavior, and not identify the user and not observe the user behavior, at the same time, this country is on another level of incompetence.
People are already using the law to target content creators on goytube, twatch and twatter for the smallest infraction, its funny as fuck to be honest, ArchLinux32 and MidnightBSD are blocking brazilian ips, it reached the boomer news in my country, some of them are afraid the computers will stop working because of the bans, the e-sports people are getting financially fucked, underage professional players were banned from competitions, "professional" e-sport club are completely fucked, the literal communist party, not to be confused with the labor party, is against the law calling it 1984 on steroids, politicians are already using the law as political propaganda against the current administration, people who still remember the military dictatorship are really pissed at the government, apparently government used the video of a 10 year old girl twerking to advertise the law in some social media, and the best part is that the government used an elderly high class prostitute who had simulated intercourse with a 13 years old boy in a movie financed by the government 4 decades ago, and likely pimped her backup dancers she hired for her children's show to actors and politicians as the official spokesperson for the law.
This law will likely be modified in the next 8 months, some people are pushing to be removed but is unlikely to happen this year, why, because its election year, its a carrot to make sure you vote for certain politicians.

Please nuke Brazil, the mass destruction of a few cities would generate a net positive for this country and the world.
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>>18155
>>18155
>>18158
Just saw in Lunduke journal that "Canonical is under police surveillance" apparently. I'm curious to see how Canonical reacts.
Brazilbro, in the U.S. we'd all be hyped on the "Courts'll strike it down" train. Any hope for that there?
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>>18158
Its complete shitshow here, this year is going to be absolute hell for Shitzil, truckers are planning a mass strike across the entire country due diesel and gasoline prices, US is preparing to classify criminal organization as terror organizations, this will cause so much damage to our economy because at least 20% of our economy is controlled by organized crime, the moment financial institutions get the list of accounts of individuals and business whose assets must be frozen, its over for Brazil for the next 5 years, we also arrested our own Epistein.
Man, I miss plandemic.

>>18159
>Any hope for that there?
As of right now, they hope that by targeting the talking heads who support the current administration and supported this law, it will create enough pressure to force the government to do something, either remove the law, pause the law, or modify the law.
Here is the thing, foreigners can help stop this, they have more power than the brazilians because they are immune from sanctions and they control the supply chain, Brazil is not US nor EU, its shitty ass country with politicians stuck in the 70s, they don't even know how the internet works, its magic for them, its a fucking ant that can be squashed at any time.
If a repository like npm or a large distro blocks updates and downloads to brazilian ips overnight, is going to be chaos, and the government will have to do something about it in less than 24h.

I'm going to ask two things from anons, I'm sorry if I'm breaking house rules but I'm desperate to find a solution to this bullshit.

If you know any developer in any project, big or small, please ask them to ban brazilian ips, ask them to add a license that bans brazilians from using their software, library, distro or repository, follow the MidnightBSD and ArchLinux32 example, this is easiest path to stop this bullshit from continuing, the government will have to do something, good or bad they will have to make a move, foreigners have more power to put pressure in Brazil than the brazilian themselves. 

Second, If you know any pro-privacy organizations, or pro privacy e-celeb, please ask them to talk about the age verification law in Brazil, its extremely retarded, and send them this link
https://www12.senado.leg.br/ecidadania/visualizacaoideia?id=216356
This is a civilian legislative request to revoke this retard law, and tell them not to trust the ANPD, its the agency responsible for this mess, the director is spineless cuck he is going to say whatever because he needs to protect his cushy governmental job.

>Why don't you do it yourself
First, because I have to assume I'm being watched, I'm not going to trust protonmail, Google or Microsoft not fuck me in the ass when push comes to shove; second, feds and the cops will arrest you slightest infraction, and if they can't find one they will invent one to fuck you, you can get arrested for calling certain politicians egghead, Lex Luthor, fat fuck, criminal, corrupt, rapist, pervert, pedophile, a week ago a woman had ran away from Brazil because she called a tranny politician a man, I don't have the money to do that shit, I don't have the money to hire a good lawyer, if I get arrested I'm dead, and I don't put stress in my family.
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>>18163
>Brazil is not US nor EU, its shitty ass country with politicians stuck in the 70s, they don't even know how the internet works, its magic for them
Tragic to think you guys back then were had enough pride to try building your own Silicon Valley in a bid for autarky, before domestic industry wimped out and just did cleanroom ripoffs of tariffed foreign computers & software.
>If a repository like npm or a large distro blocks updates and downloads to brazilian ips overnight, is going to be chaos, and the government will have to do something about it in less than 24h.
This is a fucking brilliant idea. Gawd, imagine if even a few of the major cloudshitdev repos like PyPI or Maven blocked California IPs today until our retarded law was revoked. Newsom would feel the master's whip that day.
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Actually Linux is a kernel, not an OS
Actually coreutils is just userspace programs, not an OS.

Here's an USB stick with two TAR files. I trust you won't unpack those in the same directory as that is illegal. Actually, come to think of it I don't give a shit. I will torrent literal Linux ISOs. I have dozens of them on my HDD. Remember when cryptography had export controls?

Any petitions I should sign?

>>18158
Did a bit of CSS trickery to unspoiler the text.

>>18176
Didn't expect anything else from the gigafaggot bl*ca (Piss Be Upon Him) and p*ttering.
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>>18176
Great, more Pottering pottery for the collection.
I'm gonna have to move my Dad's computer off Linux Mint at this rate, aren't I?
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-I-
What's the simplest way I can change Linux OS? It takes a lot of time for me to transfer all the files on my PC, and I JUST installed a new OS into this PC like a week before the Lunduke reporting on all this stuff started going down. E.g., I guess I'm going to be moving over to Ageless or freaking ARCHLINUX now...
-II-
https://github.com/BryanLunduke/DoesItAgeVerify
Update OS listing
>>18176
I came in to post about the same thing. Why the fuck is Lunduke THE ONLY PERSON TALKING ABOUT THIS?!
And all discussion of it is getting banned nearly everywhere (*). It just keeps accelerating, folks!
>>18178
>Did a bit of CSS trickery to unspoiler the text.
Thanks.
>Any petitions I should sign?
My god, I'm surprised that I don't know of any yet. Just looked on Change.org and didn't see anything (for the current situation(s). Really? Nothing? No petitions for the systemd, Debian, state movements?
>>18179
I hear he even chewed out some guy who even DARED to revert the pull request.
-III-
(*)
There's a shitton of people getting banned for simply posting a link to the age verification systemd pull request. Is this the refuge now? Are we already completely underground?
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>>18180
Which OS are you currently using?
If it's Debian then I suggest Devuan. I don't imagine Devuan maintainers will comply with this nonsense https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=7854
Arch -> Artix I guess. Never used the latter though.
I'm on Guix. No idea what their stance is but I don't see them complying either. I don't recommend it unless you already have pretty deep knowledge of how Linux works, as it doesn't follow the FHS and getting some programs to run is a pain.

In any case I suggest you make a backup of your data now, then use that backup later when switching OS.
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg390277.html
This post is fucking brilliant.
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>>18055
>>18139
>>18155
>>18158
>>18159
>>18163
>>18164
I generally love my country, we're decent at football, have great looking women... and even if the people are often low IQ, they generally come from a good place and have decent intentions, the average Brazilian is lighthearted, but a cunt sometimes, which is where I think our bad reputation comes from... but man, sometimes I hate my country.

I can't believe a law like this is actually passing, I hate that fucking fagoot Felca so much.

P.S. I hope we can win that fucking Hexa already this time.
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>>18180
>FreeDOS
How many companies still use FreeDOS-based discs for firmware updates?
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>>18183
>If it's Debian then I suggest Devuan.
I didn't know you could do an in-place migration from Debian to Devuan. I should've done this a long time ago. It was a lot less painless than I thought it'd be.
Thanks.
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>>18190
Also, I need to eat my humble pie here. I ignored all you guys when you were complaining like fuck about systemd. I was retarded and I get it now.
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any chatter from tails and qubes devs? will this be a red line and it's heads over tails from here on out so to speak?
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>>18192
What's wrong with systemd
>>18195
It's mostly a Rust-like problem: The core software itself is mostly fine and the problems with legacy crap it solves are real (there are similar systems like SMC & Shepherd without the following baggage), but the ecosystem is unnecessarily expansive and tightly coupled, and the people behind it are insufferable thinskinned passive-aggressive fuckups.
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>>18189
More than you'd be able to guess.
>>18196
Mind you, I only just switches to Devuan, and only just saw what happened in >>18176. But these are my initial thoughts:
-The main thing is I don't see the bootup time advantages systemd promised. Am I just biased atm, or was it all propaganda?
-The Unix philosophy (modularity/do one thing and do it well) creates a highly decentralized project structure. That structure--I'm guessing--likely makes it far more difficult for one guy who represents Microsoft named Putterding to induce regulatory capture on the entire project.
- That same structure also likely creates an inbuilt incentive for a high degree of liberty for the user built into the OS at a deep level.
- So far I don't see any difference in customizability/difficulty in troubleshooting issues in one versus the other.
Again, I'm a really recent convert, so someone can say if I'm speaking out of my ass here.
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>>18183
JFC those devs are hilarious. They're planning on making an optional "age verification daemon" that just reports Jeffrey Epstein's birthday if asked.
>>18199
>-The main thing is I don't see the bootup time advantages systemd promised. Am I just biased atm, or was it all propaganda?
I read Lennart Pöettering's blog posts. He said that the key to faster system startup is (1) start less and (2) parallelize as much as you can. This is not unique to SystemD at all. Runit does it and OpenRC can be easily configured to do it. sysvinit can be hacked to kinda do it but it's stupid and reckless. In my testing Runit is a bit faster than Systemd, in fact.

>-The Unix philosophy (modularity/do one thing and do it well) creates a highly decentralized project structure.
This is the biggest argument against SystemD (or any other similar project). Over time it will become too easy to lock users in. And the SystemD thing can become too hard to replace, even when a better alternative gets developed (S6). The other argument is that all of the unnecessary (and often unwanted) extra functions that SystemD has will lead to increased attack surface. (Why does SystemD come with a sudo-like tool calledrun0?). SystemD is monolithic because none of the components work, unless you are running SystemD as your init system (why you can't just use journalctl with OpenRC, for instance?)

I also leave this link here ---> https://suckless.org/sucks/systemd/

PS.
I also hate howDBus can be used to activate SystemDick units.

>- So far I don't see any difference in customizability/difficulty in troubleshooting issues in one versus the other.
You could make systemctl or journalctl clones for any other init system. sysvinit had service helper utility and others. Logs could be grepped or read using your text editor.
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>>18203
>The other argument is that all of the unnecessary (and often unwanted) extra functions that SystemD has will lead to increased attack surface.
Talk about good timing with what you just said!
https://thehackernews.com/2026/03/ubuntu-cve-2026-3888-bug-lets-attackers.html
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>>18199
>The main thing is I don't see the bootup time advantages systemd promised. Am I just biased atm, or was it all propaganda?
It was all propaganda.
sysvinit was and still is extremely fast because systemd does unpredictable things.
And then there's shutdown speeds, which matters anytime you need to power down quick.
I check back in on systemd every few years and it can still hang on processes that don't cleanly end, leaving you with a system that refuses to shutdown cleanly instead of just killing the process and continuing with the power off.
Every other init system handles hung processes preventing clean unmounts.
>induce regulatory capture on the entire project
Pic related.
>So far I don't see any difference in customizability/difficulty in troubleshooting issues in one versus the other
Troubleshooting systemd requires systemd components (journalctl) to read log files.
This is vendor lock-in.
Every other unix or gnu init system produces text files that can be processed by anything that can read a text file.
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>>18206
>Troubleshooting systemd requires systemd components (journalctl) to read log files. 
And I forgot to add that it's trivial to lose systemd logfiles
>Currently, journalctl can detect corrupt logs but has no "fsck" type command to attempt repair. The journald will automatically switch to writing a new "clean" file as soon as it detects the problem, so theoretically data loss should be minimal.
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>>18207
>so theoretically data loss should be minimal
That's an awful statement to get from a system logger. Your software is there for when shit hits the fan and the user's system breaks or does the unexpected. Saying data loss is "theoretically minimal" when the unexpected happens (which is, well, unexpected and thus hard to predict and model ahead of time) is a statement that your software sucks at handling exactly the kind of weird situation where it's needed most. You might as well tell the world your logging system is a failure.
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>>18209
Yeah, and boittering in general has been very blasé about critical bugs and including excessive libraries into what should be an almost fully self contained code base.
You have to wonder why an init system would need qr-code generation (external library), dhcp (external library), ntp (historical security nightmare external library), uefi control (external library).
elogind is pretty nice though
The outward appearance is that systemd is and always was meant to control or compromise a large portion of the GNU ecosystem.

Just look at the xzutils exploit that was discovered last year. It didn't effect other init systems, just systemd.
Really makes you notice.
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>>18210
I've been wondering for a while: what is systemd's killer feature compared to its competition? The relative ease of writing service files for distro maintainers? I recall hearing somewhere that many daemontools-style systems lacked the ability to make services depend on services, but I forget the specifics.
t. has only directly messed with runit on Void Linux and has more or less left init alone on other distros
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>>18213
Back when I first heard this whole debate, I thought it was just simply runtime was its "killer feature".
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>>18213
>daemontools-style systems lacked the ability to make services depend on services
At the time sysvinit had service dependency resolution.
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides:
# Required-Start:
# Required-Stop:
I don't remember if LSB formatting had these two back then, but I seem to recall it did.
# X-Start-Before:
# X-Stop-After:

>The relative ease of writing service files for distro maintainers?
The killer features were "boot time" and "ease of configuration" without "shell scripting hell".
To put things into perspective, boittering believed that the winxp way of handling services was superior.

Take a look at this bug:
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/22947
>needing debug level logs to diagnose post-kernel-bootstrap startup issues
>init system compiled with cURL
>init system compiled with GnuTLS
https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-8043-1

And then there's the whole non-deterministic startup can of worms.
Every other init system is better than systemd.

Even the "boot time" argument was blown out of the water by puppy linux way back.
Have fun with this:
https://techrights.org/n/2025/10/20/Barry_Kauler_Explains_That_Puppy_Linux_and_EasyOS_Exclude_Syste.shtml
We have to keep Lennart away from the compoetter
They're stuffing "protect the children" into legislative proposals from the White House now and stuffing it into AI bills:
https://docs.reclaimthenet.org/ai-policy-framework-legislative-recommendations-2026.pdf
>>18195
>What's wrong with systemd

They added age verification.
<https://github.com/systemd/systemd/commit/acb6624fa19ddd68f9433fb0838db119fe18c3ed
<https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/41179
>>18186
>have great looking women
I didn't want to further derail this thread, but I must object here. That only holds true if you're a hylic into the whole slutty huge ass tanned bimbo carnal aesthetic thing.
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>>18228
I'm having a tough time wrestling with the fact all those years all those faggots on /g/ and here were right about systemd all along.
>>18232
New has equaled bad for a very long time.
>>18195
https://nosystemd.org/
https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Arguments_against_systemd/
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>>18232
schizos are right about everything
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I bring news from Hueland, the country of the future.
They leaked everything, we are fucked.
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>>18232
False alarm, it's just an optional date of birth user profile field, local faggots were just doing the usual headless chicken routine in the end.
>>18238
Total coincidence it gets added now bro
Totally won't become mandatory in the future bro
Totally won't get automatically sent to whoever asks for it bro. What are you, a conspiracy theorist? Conspiracies aren't real lil bro

Definitely don't research what this new "Amutable" startup of pottering and burka is all about
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>>18240
I guess in your case "I'll see it when I believe it" is more appropriate than the other way around. By the way, immutable container OS is great for deployments and systemd is unmatched in boot provisioning, netbooting coreos/flannel is a go-to choice for local IaaS deployments already.
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>>18238
>false alarm, the Microsoft employee-maintained init system has just begun storing your age in a place every application can query, nothing to worry about goyim
>>18237
>forces everyone to use they spywa... i mean fintech
>the same spyware owned by the retards who forced you to get a vaxx or be fired
I just hope more leaks like this keep happening.
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Oh fucking boy. Lads:
Amutable: Systemd Creator Lennart Poettering Launches New Linux Security Venture 
https://archive.ph/kPSiV
Look at pics related. Poettering is openly trying to create a world where the goyim are locked into ((( remotely attested ))) Linux distros that prove to ((( third parties ))) that they haven't tampered with their own computers. By ((( sheer coincidence ))), he has been working on this while age verification laws were quietly pushed across multiple countries and US states, and now his meme init system wants to store your birthday. It's no wonder that seems flimsy on its own: it's incomplete until Poettering's new cryptographic verification spyware is pushed onto your distro.
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>>18247
JFC. That's the sort of conflict of interest that should get you kicked out of a project and your pull requests reversed.
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>>18246
The problem is that legislator see "privacy" as this "wacko civil right for the guilty" thing, and don't at ALL see the connection of how privacy is absolutely and utterly necessary for cybersecurity. Because of this lack of knowledge, politicians will double down on erasing privacy, and create this downward spiral.
https://www.tomshardware.com/software/operating-systems/grapheneos-refuses-to-comply-with-age-verification-laws
GRAPHENEOS REFUSES TO BEND THE KNEE!
>>18249
>Because of this lack of knowledge
>assuming ignorance

They are purposefully doing this, simple as.
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archive is not working for me, so screenshot it is. 
What if this entire shitshow isn't about removing privacy, but its a manufactured shitstorm so people and organization won't have the time, resources and energy to stop zuckberg gay glasses until 2028 or 2029.
Meta is selling mass surveillance glasses to people, they need to collect data from humans so they can use to train robots.
Assuming my theory is real, is a genius move.
>>18252
What if worrying about gay glasses is the distraction against destroying the entire GNU/Linux ecosystem?
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>>18249
Yeah, it's mostly the voters who are sincerely retarded rather than simply malicious:
https://archive.is/rws6E
In spite of 80% of Americans polled worrying about leaks, and only 20% thinking age verification laws are the best way to address children online, 80% still support such laws.

They don't understand blanket rules inflicted on child and adult alike are the legal equivalent of "why not just shoot him in a nonvital spot?"

>>18252
Much as with AI, this pretty much wouldn't be an issue if people just used local storage and compute, instead of entrusting everything to shadowy datacenters online.

Of course, for the specific issue of face-tracking cameras tied into massive coordinated networks, the ongoing centralization of CCTV all around the world is a much bigger issue than wearable cameras. Especially since we've had decades when we knew it was imperative we regulatorily crack down on CCTV before exactly this kind of automated video analysis became cheap enough.
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>>18249
>>18256
We should be Privacy is Security into the public consciousness. Drill it into their minds that without privacy then nothing is safe.
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>>18258
Alas, the masses always follow the path of least resistance, so you would have to either take over several governments and pass laws that force people to care about privacy & security, or somehow force a future where it is more convenient to run your services locally than to sell your soul to big tech.
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>>18259
Maybe some kind of highly invasive AI cyberstalking scammer crapflood will make revealing your real name/age/sex/location completely unmanagable even for the bootlickingist of normalfags, causing anything vaguely resembling social media to die, because everyone is FORCED to abide common sense netiquette norms every parent and employer knew in the '90s.

Maybe augmented by outright DDoS, clearnet delenda est!
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>>18263
Sign in to prove you are not a bot is more 202X tier an image to post along with showing dead invidious instances. Download disabled all over when it used to be automatically saved in your temporary Internet file folder, those FLV files, and porn sites you could just right click to save. But at least you won't get censored over just speaking your mind on a little imageboard; it's not like the Internet totally died, right? 
>>18232
>>18228
The future pearl clutchers chose.
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>>18183
>If it's Debian then I suggest Devuan. I don't imagine Devuan maintainers will comply with this nonsense
Bro, I just switched a few days ago and THANK YOU.
https://x.com/lundukejournal/status/2034697759291310115
Devuan declared they aren't complying.
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>>18231
We have way more than that, especially in the South, also some natives are nice too.
>>18155
>it reached the boomer news in my country, some of them are afraid the computers will stop working because of the bans
Huerambe, Please share a news article of this if you have any.
>>18264
That's what you think. Login and now you have to give your id/face.
it's only a matter of time before systemd will include a circumcisionStatus field
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>>18271
If I was not this lazy I would have already sent in a pull request to add a fields for pronouns, chromosome, sexuality and mental illnesses, then write a post on bluesky about how that Poe guy is literally Hitler.
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>>18272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR-zJKdAkOc
You'd get a CoC violation from ArchLinux for that. The coordinated mass banning, deletion, and censorship campaign across every single distro at the exact same time is VERY telling.
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>>18273
This doesn't surprise me at all.
I'm willing to believe there used to be some point in time when Arch was good, but there has been something wrong with it for quite a few years.
I suspect the reason Microsoft and such lobbied for this law is actually the liability thing. If they ask the user his birthdate and tell applications that ask the age bracket, then they are not liable if the user lies or if the application misuses the information. Also, if another state tries something worse, they can say to just copy the california law instead of making it complicated.
What are the current federal proposals at the moment? Is there yet another PIPPA, FESTA, COPA CABANA?
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>>18183
~8? years on artix and counting, it's comfy.
>>18234
>https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Arguments_against_systemd/
This always makes me chuckle, reminds me of some "Arguments against God" title somewhere.
>>18238
kys
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Fedora has not only bent the knee, but it's advocating for Linux to use Apple's API.
Slackware has taken the picrel stance.
>>18256
>>18252
>>18247
This might just be the end for all freedom and privacy forever. Kikes are so much fucking stronger and smarter than us that it's not worth bothering fighting back. The solution: accept that we are over and surrender.
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>>18261
Don't bother resisting. Jews have so many contingency plans its not worth resisting.

All hail Mark Zuckerberg

All hail Lennart Poettering

All hail the new world order
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>>18011 (OP) 
>but felt something should be done here.
Nothing can be done about the inevitable. All we can do is take the black pill.
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>>18011 (OP) 
We cannot do anything anymore except bow to the jews. Age verification and digital ID are the only future. We will never, ever breath the air of freedom ever again.

Jews are geniuses and we were fools to ever oppose them. May our wrongthoughts get us killed one day.
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>>18315
Install gentoo faggot. If the kikes want it to get that bad then using software compiled yourself offline and then sharing it with others will be the only way to develop. Best case scenario would now be to force yourself to only download linux related things from over tor. Problem is that the developers in china that now control a majority of the FOSS world would also be subject to these crackdowns globally which means the kike dragnet survielence would globally stagnate as people who understand how to keep the system running age out and die off. The point of this is to bring all the knowledge of such to kikeland so goys do not understand it. This of course will backfire spectacularly as the kikes can't keep up with the physical requirements of such a system being sabotaged physically. It would only take one older zeroday and a well written virus to destroy most of the digital things at that point. Actually we are already there, its only going to become easier and easier to do as time goes on and the knowledge of computing is forbidden.
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>>18295
>>18301
>>18314
>>18315
obvious psyop is obvious
>>18316
Nobody's gonna do shit to stop the kikes, the kikes already checkmated all of us who only want freedom and anonymity forever. Linux is dead and so is everything else. Digital ID and age verification 1984 NWO is the only future to exist.
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>>18317
You're replying to a dedicated shill known as "niggerpill" who's ban-on-sight on /v/.
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Even if the apocalypse is destined to come, pushing back its date is still good.
>>18317
Yeah.
>>18319
Thanks for the warning.

Anyways, I've been trying to find out if there's some sort of petition or anything like that going on. Closest I could find is an open letter of a shitton of computer scientists saying "No."
https://csa-scientist-open-letter.org/ageverif-Feb2026
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I've been trying to find petitions. If you know of any, please reply.
https://www.change.org/p/exempt-linux-and-bsds-from-age-verification-laws?utm_medium=custom_url&utm_source=share_petition&recruited_by_id=ab518f00-bc06-11f0-a3d6-93e5b646bdc4
https://www.change.org/p/stop-age-verification-laws-completely?source_location=search
https://www.openpetition.org/us/petition/online/prevent-colorado-from-implementing-os-level-age-verification
https://www.openpetition.eu/petition/online/eu-dont-force-id-to-access-the-internet-stop-killing-privacy
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>>18317
Picrel

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>>18320
Anon just accept that digital ID is a foregone conclusion and nothing we can do will ever stop it. All is lost.
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>>18324
>pic
only niggerpill would have that image ready
>all is lost
must be a sad life to seek out and hate on people that care about privacy and security
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>>18325
This kind of posters exist on several places and I wonder if they are just really committed trolls or trying to reverse psychology people into action.
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>>18326
When he shows up often you see "prove him wrong"  so it's the latter.
>>18011 (OP) 
My state has a proposal going on, but we can see which lobbyists/orgs support/don't support the law. I did not see EFF or any other org on there. I emailed EFF/ACLU to see if there'd be at least a note from them in the "do not support" column. No response yet.
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>>18328
Speaking of states, Michigan has joined the OS pile: https://www.legislature.mi.gov/Bills/Bill?ObjectName=2025-HB-4429 .
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>>18011 (OP) 
You're the ones who kept accepting their EULAs. Lie in the bed you made.
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I wouldn't care about this so much if there wasn't so much blatant banning, repression, demoralization, and censorship around it all. It makes it all really suspicious. If the discussion was allowed, I'd've maybe been demoralized and given up by now.
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>>18339
niggerpill doesn't understand that a EULA is irrelevant, as a EULA cannot overrule something made mandatory for all companies, so preventing these mandatory practices is still a good thing
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>>18345
The more important point is that, unlike a lot of stuff we bemoan, this is something dumb politicians have been failing at since the inception of the web in the 90s over and over again, soundly stomped on in Burgerlard courts every time.

Yes, Bongistan putting it in place is being made to look like a big deal, but other countries like Worst Korea and Shitposter Island have had it (supposedly) in place for many years, with no effect on the broader world.
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>>18348
>soundly stomped on in Burgerlard courts every time.
I'd rather make sure this gets fought at at every turn, because Burger court is at the end of the process, and we're just one bad court case away from being permanently fucked.
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>>18345
>buzzword in lieu of big boy words
Stopped reading there. Communicate like a grownup or you'll continue being treated like a drooling little brat. Ball's in your court.
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>>18341
>suspicious
You should be. Don't let your gut feelings go to voice mail.
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IT'S JUST A DATE FIELD.
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>>18364
>irrelevant perspective removing all context
>>18360
Protip: Anyone who says "niggerpill" as an argument can be dismissed immediately. "Niggerpill" is a boogeyman spread by newfags who can't accept that anon used to imbibe in darker topics and acknowledge that the future is forever doomed. Now the final stage of the world is coming and we will all be slaves to the eternal God-class elites, as foretold by the TRUE right-wing (not retarded cumpill MAGA goyim) forefathers.
>>18375
Nigga what?
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>>18377
He's like a jew recoiling at the mention of his own race. The guy is a fatass forever alone "wizard" who writes blog posts about conversations with his tulpa, so of course he finds himself repulsive. Of course he doesn't like being reminded of who he obviously is. He wants to be your inner demon and feed off your suffering, but the only demon he succeeds at being is his own.
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>>18375
You don't get that it's not that he's a black piller it's that he acts like a nigger while black pilling. I used to defend him until I saw his posts stay up long enough to see how gay they were. Proving him wrong gets the website taken down essentially.Right wing though? Anons used to be libertarian. Do you think imageboards started out as right wing? Get real. Politics is 8 directional. My post is negative and nobody would call it niggerpill: >>18049

>>18378
Must you spam? You posted that gay bird image in this thread already, even if you did not it'd still be spam with how often it's been spammed on /v/. >>18052 and 

>>18377
the 'nigger what' has happened several times today in another thread. Is that shit a bot? It's been at least 7 times today including this instance. 
>>18364
>it's for the children freedom-snek flag goes here
What is the slippery slope? They change things slowly to prevent the short sighted goyim from rebelling. The human brain can only contain about a tb of data and due to information overload they will delete your soul over time, gaslighting you into thinking you were bad, the soul you had before, and then you will thank them for asking you for your id as it keeps you safe just like those 9/11 anti-privacy laws keep you safe. Do they really? Nope, but you will think they do. Most people will anyway. They're just trying to charge you, that's all. They say it's for the children but the children once adults will be prosecuted too. In fact since the Mafia days they charge kids as adults anyway. In reality children having less rights is to get them ready to have less rights when adults. In yesteryear kids made their own fireworks and now you need to be 18 to buy a matchbox. Does that mean you no longer have the rights a caveman had and must rely upon the electrical grid? YES, due to the fact that they have burn bans and also when the solar industry threatens the normal grid they put taxes on it. Tip of the metaphorical iceberg, when they control a child they are raising not a man but a slave. Slaves own nothing and are happy if they hate themselves. They want you to feel guilty and inferior over every little thing. You can't even have a gun where I live until 21 but you can go joint he army and die at 18 despite this. You can't drink until 21, but, again, you can go fuck off and die for Israel anyways. They suck at even pretending they are protectnig the children but due to most normalfags having kids their 'protect the child' light goes off in their heads and they will fall for it every time. Parental instincts were never designed to even be libertarian as adults love to boss their children around, it's how it is mean tot be, so when the government helps they go 'okay' and send them to ((( school ))) and other gay shit to force them into submission. Don't put them in school? I'm sorry 'adult' but that child is a ward of the state, you do not own it, the state does, off to foster care it goes so someone can make mad cash with those foster care checks! CATTLE! They turned your children into CATTLE and so are you. Just a data field, just an ssn, just a video upload of your face and two step verification and an email and a password reset and a thumbprint and a dna sample before you get your tax refund that they should not have taken from you in the first place. Faggot. All they do is attack the Internet because it ended up libertarian. All that freedom of expression, self taught programmers (can't do that if you're not allowed to touch a computer until college aged), copyright infringing, etc. Misinformation they call it as they attack freedom of expression when it's counter propaganda. That really pisses them off. They want to know if you're of age so they can call you a terrorist and torture and or kill you without a trail. You download an mp3 and they want you on the chaingang as a legalized slave, though now they'll call it probation work or court fees. You won't be judged by a jury of your peers even if you get a trail, you'll be judged by corporate drones and the judge himself will only care about you if you were ((( born rich ))) enough to pay bail. Only the gas stations will the cameras go! Only a little SSN! Just a thumprint! Just a little DNA sample! You'll be a cloned slave for eternity at this rate with no opinions of your own and thus no rights as you did not come up with them yourself thus they were commands that an insect would get that lives in a hive. How is it that you can't see the writing on the wall when they try to ban everything constantly, but only the poor go to jail over breaking the rules? 1909 they ban opium from the people. 1920 they ban booze. 1936 you get an SSN, 1938 they ban full autos from the public. By the 1940s jews got a number on their skin and you don't see the writing on the wall? The governments are too tyrannical. That phone in your pocket is a tracking device as though you were a tagged animal being studied. All the javascript and the tracking cookies and them trying to ban VPN/etc, you're a tracked animal they are gathering information on to learn how to better control it. 

My meandering rant bottom lines to:  if it is just a gay field then they will add more rules later, just as it's not only your ssn, it is your face, it is your thumb print, it makes you have a cellphone to have an email, you need an email as well, all to get your money back they stole. It is where you live and also have lived and where you work and have worked. It is whether or not you are single or married. They ask and they ask and they ask for more and more data on you. It is not just one thing. A child could fake it. You might not be you. Id.me needs your face. They need your email, so you must buy a phone. VOIP won't work, you need an activated smart phone to get into the site and get your money back, constantly resetting your password using two step verification. Did you use the same password? They know! They kept it. Better go change it goyim, and when you forget, no matter, you have your phone right? That thing that tracks you like an animal, incriminating you every step of the way? It's funny in my state it's illegal to record someone's talking without their permission and yet jewgle androids pick up voices all the time in various ways. Kinda like when the fbi used to hack emails before they were supposed to, before 9/11. That Untouchables bullshit wherein they break the law to uphold it. They play shit like Chicago PD on tv so impoverished children can see cops act like sociopaths and think it's a good thing. It's not even a tv show, it's neural programming. A blue blooded knight has rights and is a hero and you are a little worm until proven otherwise as you slave away to get credit, credit that was never required in the past. 

Oh shit I kept going. Oh well. You're a dumb ass for not being offended when attacked by a people that do not have your interests in mind. They don't represent us. They control us. They use us like animals with a broken spirit. You are under attack and they are trying to break your spirit. Even dogs are treated better than that. You are a horse and when you demand equality naturally they would call you a donkey, not that democrats are wise. they are not far down enough on the quadrant. They should be further south, both sides should be. It should be social libertarians vs anarchist capitalists not republitards vs democunts.
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>>18382
I thought you said you didn't care about this thread?
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>>18383
<not that I care, but *types a bunch anyway*
>uses meme image to make fun of self for it
>sages the thread over and over again to absolve self of guilt
Wow. That crow meme really works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ErSdJLa3w
This Dylan guy is...suspicious.
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Flatpak wants to introduce age rating API.
I'm tired boss.
>>18404
With each passing day I understand Old Testament God's rage more and more.
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>>18406
from the very beginning, flatpaks have always been for nigger cattle, this is to be expected
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>>18404
At first I thought that was just Flathub, but they're trying to insert this trash into the XDG protocol itself! Absolutely sickening.

>>18410 
Just like all fake "containerization" formats, e.g. Snap & AppImage.
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>>18406
>Old Testament God's rage
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>>18414
A lot of these kinds of posts seem to assume God created a hyper-deterministic cosmos in which His creation effectively has no free will. It's a line of thought that had its heyday in the era of Newtonian physics (although it was present a bit earlier) and Enlightenment Deism, and kind of fell apart after that. You'll still get cope from Calvinists who just can't accept the universe having any real form of indeterminacy, but the further you get from them and the concept of predestination, the less bothered Christfags get. Then you get to the Eastern half of Christianity, who flat out do not believe time is fully linear and insist there are multiple types of time, and you find that their cosmology is so fundamentally different that images like this end up borderline irrelevant.

Have a polite sage for off-topic religionposting
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https://reclaimthenet.org/apple-expands-age-verification-to-singapore-south-korea
It's extended to Singapore and South Korea.
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>>18416
If God can't control people's "free will", that means he's not all-powerful, and he should've avoided creating people with free will in the first place if he doesn't want to get mad at people doing things he doesn't like and sending them to the magic lava.
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MidnightBSD -> IsraelBSD
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>>18416
>nuh uh! it still makes sense if you water down "god" into "blind watchmaker, shat out the mechanical universe, delinquent dad after that"
Lame-o. Better explanation.

>>18417
Wut? A cursory search yields nothing similar for Singapore, but Korea has had FAR MORE PERVASIVE online ID mandates than anything that article describes for over a decade:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_South_Korea
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>>18421
>If God can't control people's "free will"
Let's set aside the logical problems for a moment. Your demand is part of the mindset that leads to insane government overreach like digital age verification and newspeak.
You might as well shit yourself in front of your mayor, and then say he can't kick you out of the town hall because he didn't pre-emptively lock you in an anal chastity cage that physically prevented you from shitting yourself. Even if your mayor somehow had the power to enforce that, most people in this thread wouldn't really want a mayor who wanted everyone to walk around wearing remote-controlled anal chastity belts. It would be funny for outsiders, sure, but it would also be uncomfortable and annoying in a way that the mere reasonable expectation that you don't shit yourself in public wouldn't be. And even if it was the most comfortable anal chastity belt in the world, so comfortable and flexible that you didn't even notice it was there, you would still fundamentally be a little bugman in a cage who isn't trusted to not shit himself. Your mayor would be a control freak for enforcing it, and you would be a massive wuss for wanting him to do it.
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>>18406
>Make a passing comment about how mad age verification makes me.
>Replies turn into 30 Years War II: Martin "Electric Boogaloo" Luther Edition
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>>18425
City government isn't responsible for intentionally creating both the ability to shit yourself, and the fact that doing so is bad for you.

Analogous bad government would be, i.e.: Every toilet in the city has a "suck out the contents of your septic tank and flood the entire building with it" button. It has no other purpose, its presence is mandated by law, pressing it is illegal.
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>>18428
>should've used e.g. instead of i.e.
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>>18428
>Analogous bad government would be, i.e.: Every toilet in the city has a "suck out the contents of your septic tank and flood the entire building with it" button. It has no other purpose, its presence is mandated by law, pressing it is illegal.
That's a pretty bad analogy for the universe existing in such a non-pedantic way that it's possible to do bad things.
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>>18429
Spotted that a second after posting, but felt it wasn't worth a delete/repost

>>18430
>the universe existing in such a non-pedantic way that it's possible to do bad things
The exact definition of "bad things" is baked into the universe, as is its coincidence with "things it's possible to do". It's special pleading that an omniscient creator isn't responsible for Bethesda-tier jank.

A real-world policy along these lines is the existence of credit cards: To strict people, they are functionally identical to debit cards, to sloppy people, they magically transform into ruinously overpriced small loans. The entire problem is an artifact of its being allowed.

To go back to your(?) initial comparison to the mindset underlying these dumbass panopticon Internet laws, the primary source of the issue is kids being online, typically with charge they phones.

Ban phones at schools, require telcos to register phones intended for minors as such and impose special restrictions (especially on app stores and social media) on them by default without parental override, make giving phones/tablets to minors at all socially taboo.

Boom, the conditions for basically all of what people are mad over would go away, Of course, even though such policies are extremely popular among both adults AND kids:
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/survey-parents-and-teens-support-school-cellphone-bans-and-most-dont-perceive-major-downsides/
This obvious solution is opposed by every relevant industry, all of whom are instead pushing regulation around the margins that they know will never fix the problem people care about, but WILL impose totalitarianism over the masses of adults, even people like us who DGAF about SNS or groomer MMOGs.
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>>18432
It'd be neat if there was a "mobileless" web. E.g., forums and websites and chans that would just...not show you the page if it sees a user agent having a mobile device, or even outright tell you to get lost. Or make the mobile version of the page have a long diatribe with a lot of "people like you"...
sent from my iphone
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>>18459
…With TapaTalk™
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>>18459
Aside from segregating the normalcattle away from the actual humans online, I guess forcing children to at least set up a desktop hobbyist microcomputer, maybe even bootstrap LFS on an SBC like in the old days, before they can obtain the privilege of getting groomed in thirst trap chatrooms, would help the little rascals:
http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/
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>>18461
Huh.
>>18228
>>18404
I hope Gentoo adds USE flags for disabling age verification.
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>>18403
How much money do you think he's getting paid by Meta for this?
https://tboteproject.com/systemdfindings/
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>>18483
This is really good information, but he presentation is dense. The more normie of the systemd workforce are going to lose the plot here. I feel like this could be condensed into a simple infographic and then just a "LENNY POTTER IS A CORRUPT SACK OF SHIT" meme.
Seriously, holy shit this is damning. If I were you, I wouldn't be able to just post the link and call it done. I'd want to rage for at least a single sentence.
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>>18011 (OP) 
Brazil is requiring face verification on 18+ websites now... I hate that faggot Felca so much.
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>>18475
>gentoo
Foundations based in NM, so far they had HB 313 (Digital Age Verification Act) but it died in committee. Since it's a shithole dem state watch them try again though, linux is going to have to move to fucking wyoming or montana at this rate.
>>18488
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt79mdQcoZc
FINALLY a petition (for Brazil only, though):
https://www12.senado.leg.br/ecidadania/visualizacaoideia?id=216356
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>>18530
I don't think this will work sadly, I'll sign it anyway though.
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>>18549
I'm just as nihilistic as you. Like I don't see political action as really doing anything, but all the same I see it as follows:
1 - I think it does help delay the inevitable. Like, metaphorically speaking, armageddon is coming for the world. There's nothing you can really do about it, but if option A is armageddon tomorrow and option B is armageddon the day after, I'mma choose option B. In this case, yes, the petition isn't going to do anything for Brazil. It probably isn't going to do anything anywhere else in the world--but I do think it'll at least delay it on average by if even just a few seconds more across the world.
2 - I think it does help you sleep at night. Maybe not _tonight_, but years from now, when we all have jackboots on our necks and things are inevitably far, far worse than they are now, you can have some solace that, "I at least did _something_ as opposed to _nothing_," and sleep microscopically easier than those around you in the bug pods.
I'm really hesitant to post this, because the crow schizo is going to see yours and my post here, and treat it like a goddam invitation to shit everywhere again.
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There is absolutely something you can do to make a difference, the most important being the education of yourself and others.
One example of a relevant topic I personally find interesting is revolution, such as those around 1848.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848

But there are many different relevant topics, and there is definitely more possible than merely protesting with a petition.
>>18558
I see, you've made some good points, anon. I agree with those sentiments.
>>18558
Yeah no. I judge courses of actions based on the end result and delay of a poor outcome is still a poor outcome. Political action is meaningless because of that.
I don't see it as inevitable like you do, though. Shit like drawn out revolution may be awful, but at least it would prevent more absolute power for those who hate us.
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Not OS-level but suddenly picrel when I look for a "pipe cutter blade" for a DIY item.
AliExpress was already getting significantly worse in usability, but if this crap doesn't get removed it's the last straw for me. Low prices be damned if I need ages just to find the shit I actually need.
They obviously already have my home address and payment info. Why the fuck do they need more?
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>>18576
I have no sympathy for anyone using Chinese services.
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>>18576
>go to see if real
>type tactical sword into ali
>no results aside from info page about tacdtical swords if in mobile
>search knife 
>nothing but blurred
So a despite China having the highest execution rates it is child abuse to let someone underage see an image of a knife? Amazon still has swords and they come from China also, how does that work? It might change if you mess with VPN but I'm not about to do that. Ali blocks sex dolls from US IPs for exmaple but I have it from a non-US IP as it is. I wonder if that makes a difference? They should only block their shit from their nation. A camera to see your face before you buy le weapon, it technically makes sense except that if you were to go and kill somebody you'd wear a fucken mask.
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The simple script here https://github.com/HardeQ/age-verification-bypass-aliexpress seems sufficient for now to bypass the blur bullshit, though I wonder how long that will last.
Also, this Au10tix company is apparently located in ISRAEL.
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>>18577
>xe sez on a device OEM'd in chingchong
Might as well cut out the middleman

>>18580 
Asian countries in general have a weird complex around knives, and sometimes blood. And just like porn, the censorship is done the most pointless way. In live-action dramas, for instance, you'll see characters being brutally clubbed and stabbed and shot and dismembered, but JUST the knives (but not swords, usually!) and wounds/gore (sometimes even bloodstains on the floor!) will be censored with a small Gaussian blur.

Some countries do have their own unique hangups though, like China's infamous aversion to skellingtons.
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Jesus Cristo, it keeps getting worse and worse. is like a nightmare that never ends.
>Mexico has officially introduced a digital identification system by signing a law that turned the previously optional biometric-based citizen code into a mandatory document for all citizens.
>The mandatory CURP will contain personal and biometric information, including a photograph and a QR code containing biometric fingerprint and iris data. The identifier is expected to be introduced gradually to all Mexicans by February 2026.
https://archive.is/sOaB9
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>>18583
>only uses archive.today link that requires js and doesn't even show the original link without js
>the original link works without js and over tor
always add the original link, but especially in cases like this, it's kinda ridiculous not to

https://www.biometricupdate.com/202507/mexico-makes-biometric-identifier-mandatory-for-all-citizens
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https://www.thecentersquare.com/michigan/article_7ca4e268-4a68-42fb-9042-f9d8604ebd7f.html
MICHIGAN WITHDREW! YAAAAAAY!
:D
>>18584
The site also offers a longer URL format:
http://archive.today/2025.07.24-104142/https://www.biometricupdate.com/202507/mexico-makes-biometric-identifier-mandatory-for-all-citizens
>the original link works
For now. If you know another archive site that doesn't routinely do takedowns and censorship at the slightest provocation, name it.
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Are you ready to use it?
Don't worry its ((( open source )))!
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>>18597
>it respects your privacy
>its anonymous
>user can't be tracked
>but you need to use your national id or passport
I refuse to believe these people are even humans, you either anonymous or you aren't, the moment you are required to show proof of your age you are not anonymous anymore, its a level of mental gymnastics that I cannot comprehend.
Just come out and say it out loud, we want to control you, we want to rule over you, we want you dead, at least is honest.
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>>18599
>honesty
why be honest when people are so easy to deceive?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info
It's been introduced at the OS level in the U.S. House.
>>18203
> He said that the key to faster system startup is (1) start less and (2) parallelize as much as you can.
This was the case back in the era of HDDs. Nowadays, with SSDs and m.2 disks even, bootup time of the actual system is really not an issue.
Or at least not something that is going to be fixed by the service manager. My system boots to the desktop within 20 seconds and 16 of these seconds are spent in the EFI firmware.
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>>18612
I still remember when machines such as the Apple ][ cold booted to ROM BASIC prompt in less time than it took to the first frame to scanout, and actual DOS prompt from incredibly slow floppy in under a second.

I realize modern systems (*N*X/Win NT) are actually mainframe minicomputer OSs preconfigured to present the appearance of a personal workstation session, but surely on hardware thousands of times faster, we could do that again? Even moreso for hibernation rather than cold boot.
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>>18613
that would require a different architecture
the common factor is x86
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The EU's age verification app is somehow worse than any other age verification law in the world.
>30 uses left
Each token has a limited number of uses, the EU can now see, control and limit ability to access services.
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>>18615
minor critique:
>[the pin] should be hashed
For a 6-digit pin this is pointless because you can easily bruteforce every combination (only 1 million total) even if it is salted.
Then again, so is encrypting it. Why is it "encrypted" anyway and with which key?
>>18614 
I guess there's some truth to that, as even a highly optimized UEFI or normal U-Boot still takes almost 2 seconds before a stub kernel is executed, compared to something like U-Boot Falcon Mode or Punchboot that can finish in milliseconds, whereas the most optimized Linux OSs with userland (e.g.: a Firecracker image) can boot to a usable app in milliseconds.

>>18615
>Each token has a limited number of uses
!?!?!?!?

Even with the ludicrous assumption of good faith, I can't imagine what the assumed justification for this specific feature is supposed to be.
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>>18617
>Even with the ludicrous assumption of good faith, I can't imagine what the assumed justification for this specific feature is supposed to be.
It's probably just to prevent many users piggybacking off one ID.
I am from europe, since then do we have that shitty app? Is for every EU country? Asides twatter I don't know nothing else that requires age verification
>>18604
The full text has now been released, and holy shit is it bad. Like we are all royally fucked forever bad.
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>>18624
People really don't understand that everything will be taken away by governments (all over the world) to the point where it should trigger a revolution.

However, this is severely impeded by all of the psyops that are causing division in the population.

Divide and conquer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_conquer
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>>18626
>People really don't understand that everything will be taken away by governments (all over the world)
governments = Rothschilds
>>18624
It reads like putting a birth date field during installation would satisfy the requirements and prevent Linux distros from getting in legal trouble. Is this really such a doomsday legislation?
A reason on why I am proficient with computers is because I started using them when I was around six or seven year old, and later when the internet arrived, I had unrestricted internet access, so I could learn a lot and get a career in IT (and most important, watch anime and play violent videogames). Kids should be using computers instead of nigger phones.

Nuke brussels, nuke washington, behead every bureaucrat.
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>>18631
Goyphones are the reason kids and zoomers are so dumb now.
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>>18632
It's a big part of it, certainly.
I always have to laugh when I see the occasional advert for "Reduce your phone bill by HALF " and these dumb Boomers come on and say shit like
>I was paying $300 a month for my phones!
>Now I just pay $130/month!!
I had a flip-phone until 4G made most all of them FAIL then I bought a generic burner SmortPhōn for $35 and bought a card every month for $15-$20
The only time the retard hylics can seem to remember their own number is when the cashier at the store asks them for it for their "Store Discount"

You can chalk a lot of the stupid up to the intentional dumbing down of school curriculum over the past 50 years too.

As to the topic; If you are still on sites that require age verification that you can't get around, then you may be doing something wrong.
It's not unlike Amerilards and the Laissez-faire way they volunteer their critical identifying info to just anyone, and probably 99% of the time never read a EULA agreement.
<here...let me just leave my wallet on my dashboard with the windows rolled down in a stripmall parking lot in the bad part of town

Sorry for the rant, but before 1995, most people had multiple phone numbers memorized. Now if a retard loses their phone, their life comes to a grinding halt.
>>18604
Hmmm..
This might put a damper on my plans for duel booting with a Linus image.

I humbly throw myself at your mercy, Praytell, can you suggest an UNPOZZED distro?
I'm familliar with 2011 Ubuntu,(spent WAYYY too much time playing  'Beneath a Steel Sky' ,) but I know OSs like Mint and other forks have come a long way
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>>18633
>dumbing down of school curriculum
that's because being smart means being white, so it was deemed racist to uphold that standard
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>>18633
>Laissez-faire way they volunteer their critical identifying info to just anyone
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>>18637
You aren't wrong...
>>18638
Yes...but like car insurance used to be optional once, and even Credit scores were only established in the 50s really.
> 'Before credit scores, credit was evaluated using credit reports from credit bureaus. During the late 1950s, banks started using computerized credit scoring to redefine creditworthiness as abstract statistical risk.: 447  The Equal Credit Opportunity Act banned denying credit on gender or marital status in 1974, along with race, nationality, religion, age, or receipt of public assistance in 1976.: 573  Credit scoring adoption accelerated to shield against discrimination lawsuits.' 

My point is, this careful herding into the NEED for a SmartPhone of some sort, *JUST* to maintain a paid job, and even in some cases pay for things, is the whole game.
So, it would appear that you either have to drop out, or join up...There is no in between.
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>>18604
I called my congressman over this. It was my first time doing so, and I think the poor kid who answered was incredibly confused and naive.
>*Start discussing how incentivizing centralized dbs of children online is a bad idea.*
<Excuse me sir, just to check, the bill you're talking about is the 'Parents Decide Act', right?
>Yes.
<*Incredibly confused "O.K.."*
>*I continue on why it's a bad idea.*
I'm the reason you don't want antisocial autistic weebs doing things.
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>>18634
Just look for any distro that hasn't commented or won't do any of this garbage.

Americans and the orange nigger are wrong when they think independent developers really care and are beholden to the agenda of some retarded banana republic (except the feds that they themselves plant in open source that is)
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It's more than a bit odd FSF are silent on this.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFlyCLXdwT0
>You can't let this happen.
>Don't let this happen. Don't let apathy, depression, or the lack of desire to Google who your congressional representative is and figure out where the contact form is for them allow this to get pushed through. Don't listen to the people in the comments that are going to say there's no point in trying. Don't listen to the people that are going to say this is going to happen anyway, both sides, whatever.
>Just ignore all of the trolling because when you read a lot of that stuff, what something really important to understand is a lot of comments on the internet are bots. And the bots are not designed to get you to be Democrat, Republican, labor, conservative, whatever the hell else, they're designed to just get you to feel like there's so much overwhelming that I just don't have time for this and to move on to something else. It's designed to get you to feel overwhelmed so you just don't engage at all. And that's not that that's not the way to go here.
>>18661
spare me some sauce pls
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>>18664
>https://websitereview.neocities.org/ageverification#Actions

cool page btw
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>>18633
Having an electronic, telecom, wireless, automated alternative to physical objects and memorized numbers isn't the problem. If it were implemented sanely, it would be far more private, decentralized, and secure than anything possible in the past. The problem is the dominant (often stipulated) implementation is horribly malicious under someone else's control.

>>18659 
I think the most amazing thing about this is, in spite of how seemingly transparent the justifications are, voters and politicians actually seem MORE GULLIBLE for it than I remember them being back when practically none of them were onliine.

Hopefully, if this latest round of it is defeated yet again in MURKA, work will be done to repeal such legislation abroad where it has been allowed to fester without scrutiny. Surrendering IANA control of the Internet countries none of which have anything close to our 1st Amendment was a disaster waiting to happen.

>>18661
As I >>18114 noted upthread, FSF did complain about something related to the bongistan version back when that happened, but that's the closest I'm aware of.
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https://9to5linux.com/colorado-age-attestation-bill-may-exclude-open-source-oses-and-apps
GNU/Linux is apparently going to be excluded from the Colorado bill. I don't know what to think about this. I'm actually kind of on the fence about it, but I think that's GNU/Linux elitism showing.
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>>18668
>Having an electronic, telecom, wireless, automated alternative to physical objects and memorized numbers isn't the problem.
No, it's a big part of it.
You know how old people deteoriate way faster when they retire and don't find anything meaningful to work on? That's pretty much us. An increasing number of new technologies are digitizations of things people used to do reasonably fine themselves, such as recognizing spelling mistakes, navigating around cities, or remembering phone numbers. We aren't actually expanding our own capacities to think and act. We are merely outsourcing them, and we actively lose skills we formerly had in exchange for ever-diminishing returns.
Digitizing everything also strips away the material foundation that human cognition, perception, and intuition are built around. Money, for example, is better reasoned about when it's collection of physical objects you give and receive, as opposed to a card with numbers that go up and down on a server somewhere. You can sort of get around this through good education and bookkeeping, but in getting rid of the tangible aspect you remove its visceral, intuitive side which both makes it easier for the less-educated and inspires the perceptive. Even if you're educated and careful, the act of bookkeeping will stick better in your mind if it's done on physical paper instead of a phone or a computer. The physicality of the paper and ink and the muscle memory of each letter's unique strokes will give your memory more embodied hooks to work with than the eye-straining glare of a flat screen and the repetitive, mechanistic movements of a keystroke or, God forbid, barely tactile taps on a smooth touchscreen.
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>>18678
>Money, for example, is better reasoned about when it's collection of physical objects you give and receive, as opposed to a card with numbers that go up and down on a server somewhere.
I'm tangenting this thread, but ever since I started using cash everywhere and forcing cash payments for whatever I could, I suddenly began having savings and a retirement account. I wasn't even consciously thinking about saving money; it just happened when I started using cash.
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>>18678
Note this tangent is mostly irrelevant to my actual main point about how technology allows completely new capabilities in privacy, security, and decentralization, while retaining all older capabilities, rather than merely improved speed and convenience at best. 
>We aren't actually expanding our own capacities to think and act. We are merely outsourcing them, and we actively lose skills we formerly had in exchange for ever-diminishing returns.
I strongly suspect that only applies to unambitious slobs for whom technology has nothing to augment.

Outside of professional obligations, nothing they use a computer for is qualitatively different from a newspaper, TV, or telephone. The only application they use is a browser, and the only site they visit with it is probably Facebook. The greater efficiency granted by technology has nothing in their lives to make room for, because their hopes and dreams are inelastic, leaving a gaping void or repetition of the same thing where boundless human potential should go. A spellchecker and searchable reference material doesn't mean they can write a greater and more insightful opus, or keep organized notes for an elaborate project, it means they can hammer out an insubstantial and pointless interoffice memo.

Their input to technology aside, this is also reflected in the opposite direction, where instead of knowing what output of technology to ignore, normalfags are ceaselessly captivated by trivial noise. Think of how ensouled humans were able to have a mix of wacky shitposting and serious discussion online for decades without hamfisted moderation or bizarre spillage offline, but the instant normalfags got online in the late-'00s it was like unsanctioned psykers being exposed to the warp, both turning cyberspace into a terrifying eternal hellscape and blasting meatspace with daemonic screeching.

The problem isn't the power of the technology, but the people who expose no greater ambition when faced with it.
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>>18681
>my actual main point about how technology allows completely new capabilities in privacy, security, and decentralization
The key word there is "allows," and that allowance is not a certainty. Technology is a far broader field than computers and digital software alone, and in practice the way these latter two are used have produced far greater surveilence, insecurity, and hypercentralization than was possible without them.
>I strongly suspect that only applies to unambitious slobs for whom technology has nothing to augment.
/tech/ and its 4chan predecessor are pretty notorious examples of this, unfortunately. We have a reputation of being a bunch of genderswapped stationary girls who waste endless hours fiddling with desktops and arguing about languages without writing anything meaningful in them.
>A spellchecker and searchable reference material doesn't mean they can write a greater and more insightful opus
A spellchecker is a sad substitute for your own ability to recognise misspelled words. It doesn't grant you etymological insights or increase your vocabulary the way flipping through a dictionary does, and correct spellings gained through it don't stick in one's mind the way a hunt through the dictionary does. So no, it doesn't help you write a greater and more insightful opus: at best it's a tool you run quickly over a document after it's done to see if there's any typos you missed, and at worst it's a thoughtlessly enabled, niggerlicious substitute for something any remotely literate person can trivially do himself.
As for searchable reference material, the experience of actually reading digital documents is a huge step back from books and a regression to the scroll. You go from a physically bound object in which all information have spatial and tactile locations as memory hooks, and which can be flipped through or opened at random, to a linear, despatialized stream of information. You navigate this new format by either literally scrolling like the ancients, jumping from one disembodied page to the other, or using its sole new feature: text search. That's it. That is literally the only reading experience advantage the format has for the reader, and it is one that scientists and scholars thrived without for thousands of years.
>or keep organized notes for an elaborate project
Even aside from the cognitive differences of typing vs writing (which can be taken even further if you get into, say, the way cursive engages the right brain more than block letters), you don't need a computer for that. A piece of software or an operating system can push you towards a good style of organization, but they generally don't strictly force one on you unless you yourself install something which does force it.

Keep in mind that I'm blabbing about all this on /tech/ on a computer, and that I think computers are pretty neat. I just find the things a lot of people brag about achieving through them kind of sad.
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>>18682
you're getting a bit polemic at this point
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>>18685
Sorry about that. It's been a bit of a lousy sick day, so I've been a bit grumpy.
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>>18681
>The only application they use is a browser, and the only site they visit with it is probably Facebook.
That's women. Women are hard-wired to only care about social interactions. Art, culture, science, etc. mean nothing so long as a social status hierarchy exists. They view it as the height of all human activity. All other heights of the universe are nonexistant. And so:
Mice:repeatedly pressed the short-circuited dopamine lever until they die::Women:swiping on social media until they destroy all of society 
Since I'm already schizo posting, I might as well go pedal-to-the-metal and say that I think I'm not Muslim but I think this is why Muslim culture will win out, because they understand how easily the female brain can be short-circuited and have the necessary cultural institutions to counteract it and they'll be proven right in the end because of it.
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>>18715
>the necessary cultural institutions to counteract it
Not really. Pretty much everyone handled it in at least some way until recently: the Muslim method just stands out because they're behind the curve in some areas and do weird shit to cope for their own horrible self-control in ways that usually make their problems worse. It's a religion where no one is allowed to drink, men are circumcised, and women have their clits cut off and get completely covered up. The result? A people so notoriously violent and rape-happy that groups of visitors to the holiest site in their religion have the husbands form a circular human wall around their wives so their own people don't gangrape them.
A good example of this is Muslim fasting. Other religions have periods of this for various reasons, with the development of one's self-control being part of them, but the Ramadan method is self-defeating: they simply don't eat when the sun is up, and eat whatever they want when the sun is down. This kills pretty much all the benefits of sustained fasts, and keeps them constantly switching between hanger and pigging out during fasting season (unless they're rich enough to give work the middle finger and sleep through the day). As a result, supposedly most Muslims actually gain weight during Ramadan, and my impression is that it probably enslaves them further to their appetites.
In general, I don't think Islam actually solves cultural problems, but pressurizes them to make bombs. And when there's no more non-Muslims to take out through explosions (the total destruction of which they cynically draw out after a successful conquest, as they preserve a slowly-shrinking remnant for tax purposes and a pressure outlet), their men blow up at other Muslim men and their women, and their women blow up at each other. Thus they achieve the meaning of their faith's name: submission. Hypothetically, anyways, as their religion is usually too cynical to achieve the perfect submission of a 100% Islamic population, and you get a bunch of Christians and weird little esoteric religions which survive for a couple thousand years and then liberate themselves or get liberated.
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>>18685
A bit, but he's not wrong.
>>18687
>Momma told me there'd be days...
Hope you feel better soon, anon.
I'm a newfag here, but I appreciate the higher level of discourse and effort posting.
<Spam water
<get them electrolytes in you
<Sleep, rest, sleep some moah
<Only eat when your body signals but when you do, consider taking a few K of vit.D
...Or don't.
i can't tell you what to do.
>>18715
>>18719
learn to stop writing text wall aids
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>>18723
@grok, turn 18715 and 18719 into 10 second tiktoks with 6 7 and skibidi memes fr
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>>18726
I was also going to respond to that post with mockery, but I guess I froze out of pity. Here's a guy who's so illiterate that he deems roughly six sentences to be a "text wall". That's someone who can't read.
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>>18726
>>18727
it's not about the amount of sentences or words, but how those are structured
a post could easily be 5 times larger and not be a "wall" of text if formatted properly
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https://lunduke.substack.com/p/open-source-exemption-to-colorados
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FSF?!
>>18634
If this passes, no OS is safe my dude.
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>>18728
Forgive me amigo, I forgot that walls aren't inclusive to Mexicans. Allow me to make amends with a superior structure: the Latin American road.
                                  Not really. Pretty much everyone handled
                                it in at least some way until recently: the
                             Muslim method just stands out because
                            they're behind the curve in some areas
                           and do weird shit to cope for their own
                           horrible self-control in ways that usually
                             make their problems worse. It's a religion
                              where no one is allowed to drink, men are
                                circumcised, and women have their clits
                                  cut off and get completely covered up.
                                    The result? A people so notoriously violent
                                      and rape-happy that groups of visitors to
                                        the holiest site in their religion have the
                                         husbands form a circular human wall
                                          around their wives so their own people
                                                 don't gangrape them.
                                                A good example of this
                                         is Muslim fasting. Other religions have
                                       periods of this for various reasons, with
                                   the development of one's self-control
                                  being part of them, but the Ramadan method
                               is self-defeating: they simply don't eat when
                                the sun is up, and eat whatever they want
                                  when the sun is down. This kills pretty much
                                      all the benefits of sustained fasts, and keeps
                                           them constantly switching between hanger
                                             and pigging out during fasting season (unless
                                        they're rich enough to give work the middle
                                   finger and sleep through the day). As a
                               result, supposedly most Muslims actually
                              gain weight during Ramadan, and my
                              impression is that it probably enslaves
                                      them further to their appetites.
                                      In general, I don't think Islam
                                   actually solves cultural problems, but
                                 pressurizes them to make bombs. And
                               when there's no more non-Muslims to
                           take out through explosions (the total
                    destruction of which they cynically draw
                  out after a successful conquest, as they
                   preserve a slowly-shrinking remnant for
                     tax purposes and a pressure outlet),
                        their men blow up at other Muslim
                           men and their women, and their
                         women blow up at each other. Thus
                      they achieve the meaning of their
                     faith's name: submission. Hypothetically,
                 anyways, as their religion is usually too
            cynical to achieve the perfect submission
         of a 100% Islamic population, and you
        get a bunch of Christians and weird
        little esoteric religions which survive
        for a couple thousand years and
        then liberate themselves or get
                     liberated.
>>18731
>WHERE THE FUCK IS THE FSF?!
See: >>18107
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>>18733
Yeah, I already saw that. It doesn't explain anything, and more importantly it doesn't help. It just encourages more do-nothing attitudes where you pretend you're above everything by being le black pilled nihilism. It's redditor-tier stuff.
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>>18743
If you remove the Ben Garrison-tier labels telling the viewer what to think, he just looks like a cool dude.
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>>18744
Oh. You ARE a redditor.
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>>18745
>implying redditors praise neo-nazis
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>>18745
It took me several hours to notice your badly-drawn hat was supposed to be a fedora.
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>>18746
>Implying that Jews aren't the ones who draw swastikas.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jewish-man-andrew-king-spray-paint-swastikas-new-york-schenectady-nazi-own-home-a7643996.html
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>>18747
It's a little prince reference.
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>>18750
not scary
https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-urges-member-states-rollout-eu-age-verification-app
Things are accelerating in the EU towards age verification now.
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>>18753
At this point I'm just waiting for them to state that the next version requires marking or chipping the user for authentication.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/3062/text
You better register your ID to use OpenLlama!
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>>18731
> no OS is safe my dude.
I've operated on that assumption since Pokemon GO!

>>18762
>This Act may be cited as the “Guidelines for User Age-verification and Responsible Dialogue Act of 2025” or the “GUARD Act”.
Oh FFS! more of the same ol' It's for the CHILDREN bullshit.
>>18753
https://audiovisual.ec.europa.eu/en/media/video/I-288345
The EU has started to push on the gas now! EU saying they have to ban VPNs to push this age verification shit.
>>18762
So any companies who don't comply would have to move overseas and/or block US users. That's shitty.
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>>18787
Yeah that's exactly the same tactics that a shitty sibling on a long trip in a car use...
>MOOOOOOOM! He's on MY SIDE of the seat..
<moves over even further
It's the passive aggressive tactics that children use. It ONLY works when the parents(gov't) are compromised.

I tried getting an anonymous crypto account today to donate to a content provider.
every single one required some sort of ID or tie-in to your phone,(which, let's face it, is anything BUT anonymous)
FFS guys, help a bro help a bro.. HOW DO I DONATE funds to Devon stack anonymously?
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>>18788
Gift card bought with cash
If you want crypto and are willing to take risk, there exist p2p exchanges with vendors that accept cash by mail or other almost-money like gift cards, etc.
>>18787
It's basically handing the AI industry that the U.S. developed on a silver platter for another country to have.
>>18049
>What is the argument going to be?
Whistle blowers, for one. They need to be able to speak up. They need to be anonymous due to how deranged corporations can be. Anonymous commentary is another. Unpopular opinion, hated or not, can be expressed instead of silenced. Ideas should never be stifled. Next, without anonymity you can be digitally stalked. Not just people, businesses. Think of the selective pricing going on for sold goods. I'm sure you can think of worse ways big business can stalk and harass.
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>>18836
There's also the flipside of whistleblowing, the panopticon effect.

As mass surveillance becomes more intense, it gains not only a clearer image of people and activities directly subject to surveillance, but also an inverted shadow image of people and activities it can't see, made conspicuous in their every contour by their silhouettes of absence in the increasingly total image of who and what it directly observes. In the case of modern social media, this is so extreme they have not only shadow data attached to user accounts extending beyond directly reported information, but maintain "shadow profiles" of people who don't have accounts at all.

Both unreported activities by those with accounts, and people without accounts, include many with good reason for secrecy, such as whistleblowers, dissidents, even rank-and-file cops!

All of that, however, only applies to normal people who have jobs, personal possessions, and personal interactions. Our existence as private citizens is too great a part of our lives to maintain an entire opsec second life.

In the case of plutocrats, megacorps, government agencies, and hardened criminals, they exist apart from normality, with both the skills and opportunity to create and maintain separate, falsified, or invisible identities. Worse yet, greater visibility of the rest of society makes such skulduggery more effective. No amount of surveillance will reliably catch sight of them.

Thus, total visibility of the masses perversely rewards and empowers secrecy on the part of exactly those who we least want to have it. The panopticon is anarcho-tyranny in its purest form.
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>>18841
That's a really good observation. Thanks for the cap material.
The modern era has a lot of strange inversions like this. We keep producing systems which supposedly equalize or control everyone, but in reality create a dichotomy of ultra-powerful elites with no accountability and more easily-malleable masses. When leftists encounter traces of this, they either deny its existence or claim it's actually fascism. The issue is that this happens so consistently that I'm certain this isn't just liberals slamming head-first into a reality that doesn't match their broken zero-hierarchy systems, but is an occultfag inversion trick done to gain power over people.
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>>18843
Absolute unconditional free expression, privacy, decentralization, due process, etc., are the classical leftist rallying ideals. Seeing the same people (not just the same orgs, even many of the same individuals!) who fought in court for the right of nazis to march in the streets and publish books out of sheer principle, today willing to shatter the backbone of the Internet to briefly inconvenience borderline irrelevant sites like Stormfront, is mindbending. Seeing the only people with any organized backing who consistently stand up for anonymity and open debate be self-declared fascists is bananas.

Everything political I've witnessed since OWS was crushed feels to me like a fever dream
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>>18011 (OP) 
>tfw I'm Brazilian and can't coom anymore because of a mentally ill moralist faggot named Felca.
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>>18845
Don't let yourself be pushed around, join your countrymen in exposing the toothlessness of that gesture:
https://www.riotimesonline.com/brazil-follows-venezuelas-lead-vpn-usage-skyrockets-amid-social-media-restrictions/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XoEBUsAGpo
Canadian corn companies are arguing for this shit. I know Lunduke's explanation, but I'm not buying it. To me, it's TEXTBOOK baptists and bootleggers theory.
>>18844
The Overton Window has shifted a lot in the past 40 years--even in the last 5.
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>>18844
That's because labels like "leftist" or "right-wing" are ultimately fake and gay and only exist for ((( them ))) to control people.
As much as I hate wojacks, this one is very relevant.
https://reclaimthenet.org/big-tech-backs-colorado-os-level-age-data-bill
FUCK YOU. GOVERNMENT APPROVED OSES ONLY.
>283 replies
>none of them showing how to bypass this bullshit
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>>18887
Don't comply
Don't install shitstemd
Don't visit webslop sites
Shoot a congressman
Keep torrenting fellow pirates
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>>18888
Based Quads of Truth.
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