>>16770
This isn't really feasible for any organization at scale unless the one creating the organization is capable of the same information superiority the CIA/NSA is, it's better to just leave the spying to faggots and create methods that test someone true dedication to the ideology and their understanding of it, thereby proving it's deeper than any fed would willingly do to blend in unless they were a seriously fucked up CIA infiltrator, if they would even be allowed by their superiors to do so.
>>16772
>What you say is bleak.
So? The truth isn't kind, we just deal with the situation as it is.
>But what do we have outside of it? Working within doesn't mean supporting voting, it means sabotage, intel
I'm not omniscient, nor do i work for the CIA or NSA, so how the fuck would I know?
The infiltration for intel and sabotage is possible but most who do so get caught because they will force you to do shit completely against what we stand for. I personally don't have the patience to do it, nor am I willing to compromise myself or my beliefs to do that.
>You don't need that system to have children.
Who said you did? I stated the derads need the system, obviously because they didn't think before doing any of it, so they trapped themselves into the system, and I personally believe that truly dedicated revolutionaries shouldn't have kids until SHTF, because parents subconsciously seem to bias themselves towards the system because even with all the evil and degeneracy it brings, it also brings a lot of ease and comfort.
>It wasn't that clearly cut.
I never said it was perfectly clear cut, Whatever Machiavelli said, i'm not talking about him, I'm talking about Derads and what I said is these fucking derads and the orgs they prop up are most often operating out of a desire to be seen as heroes, to be loved, but one thing History does teach is that heroes aren't often thought of as such while they are alive, they're men who do what's necessary consequences and popularity be damned.
>Are you opposed to unnamed and not so public organizations or structures too?
I have never been against organization itself, I am against the useless meatgrinder nationalism that has come out of aping fucking Rockwell(who people seem to forget was trying to break out of the stalemate he was in, and move to coordinated violence before he was murdered) for 80 fucking years, it hasn't worked.
>>16774
>So what would be your solution then? You can't go global without succeeding locally first. I think that's the word "organization" which you have a problem with. Right? What about local army group (LAG) then? How do you build that?
Have you read Siege? Form a group with people in your local community, if you can't find people who will awaken to being NS, abandon them, they aren't worth the time or effort. do whatever you choose to do from there so long as it weakens the system, it isn't a hard concept, and any leaks are entirely up to your own judgement and whether you let the stupid in. I've moved too far from home to form any connections myself at present, and the people back home that I thought I could trust, I couldn't, so I left them behind.
>But you would not be a problem for anybody either, utterly powerless, unless you had an armed group capable of fighting that "opposing faction" which would sadly be a terrible case of whites killing each other again.
You underestimate what one man can do if he puts his mind to it, and when the general situation isn't stable finding useful idiots to help you isn't terribly hard. Even so, I feel confident that I can find and build what I need from zero if and when the governments grip loosens.