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I think is the opposite, since the first spanish missions, and the Meiji restoration 200 years later, Japan has been closer to the west, and for example, in japanese, you get a lot of loan words, while China, has gatekeep their culture way more and is very different from the west, still, both have been westernized successfully. But China is more unique with their culture.

weebs will hate you for saying that japanese culture and folklore is wholesale ripped off from chinese but made better. if there's anything the japs do well is copying other things and making them better. I've seen it time and time again in all sorts of yellow media, they can't make anything original, only derivative works with many, many, many coats of paint and polish.

>>325234 (OP) 
Chinese history and mythology is pretty cool, but, wuxia is gay as fuck and I can't take it seriously.

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>>325234 (OP) 
>Their mythology is richer; their philosophy more well-developed and I prefer their aesthetic richness. Chinese culture, especially in the traditional sense, reminds me of medieval European culture with its ornateness and artistry.
The peoples that currently reside in China basically have nothing to do with the cultures that preceded their current one, genetically speaking. Or so that one anti-China imageboard screenshot says.
>The Chinese language is buggish, but I prefer that over the more feminine-sounding Japanese language
There are many Chinese languages. You are not being specific.
>I think its alphabet or whatever the fuck it is is cooler looking, too
It's essentially the same, though? What are you even talking about?
>but China has been catching up with their own exports, especially in gaming like Genshin Impact, Naraka: Bladepoint and Honor of Kings
That may not necessarily be a good thing. For one, they love their kernel-level anti-cheat systems, which have the potential to brick your device.
>China is much faster to change things when the circumstances dictate
China has made leaps and bounds of progress in the last 25-30 years, going from steam trains (or some other kind of old train) to maglev trains.
Their insistence on change and progress may not sit well with someone who prefers things to stay the same. I don't know how their old people feel about things. Hell, China loves using AI for propaganda, and how old people in general can't seem to be able to distinguish AI from reality.
>>325238
>weebs will hate you for saying that japanese culture and folklore is wholesale ripped off from chinese
It isn't wrong. At some point (after 1000? 1200?) it started to become its own thing.
>if there's anything the japs do well is copying other things and making them better.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Not sure what improvement would be.

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>>325236
I think this might be an interesting mini-discussion in itself: which is more Western, China or Japan? I think you're looking at through a lens of cultural accumulation whereas I'm looking at it through intrinsic identity. For example, East Asia is widely known for its  absurd work/life balance, but while China had its recent period of 996 culture (9AM to 9PM, 6 days a week), the CCP was actually fairly quick to clamp down on it and initiate regulations to improve working hours, whereas Japan's addressing of the issue has been half-hearted at best. Sābisu zangyō remains a fixture of Japan, where employees are expected to stay at the job, even after there's no work to be done afterhours as a sign of loyalty. Again, this is just an example of pointless ritual that China doesn't share. I think that in the actual fabric of culture, China is more Western-like. 

>>325238
I'm not sure I necessarily agree. Chinese mythology is quite good and I prefer it to Japanese mythology. Chinese mythology is almost Greek-like with how complex it is. 

>>325240
I think Wuxia is alright for a fantasy setting. I like the martial arts focus and emphasis on personal growth. 

>>325309
>The peoples that currently reside in China basically have nothing to do with the cultures that preceded their current one, genetically speaking. Or so that one anti-China imageboard screenshot says.
You believe everything you read on the internet? The Manchu and Han started in Northeast China and spread south and west. They're still there. I have no idea what you're talking about. 

>There are many Chinese languages. You are not being specific.
Because I don't have to. Mandarin and Cantonese are regarded as the main Chinese languages and this is what most reasonable assume you're referring to when you say as such. 

>It's essentially the same, though?
Not entirely, Japanese has its own elements. 

>That may not necessarily be a good thing. For one, they love their kernel-level anti-cheat systems, which have the potential to brick your device.
Heh, at least they're serious about anti-cheat. 

>China has made leaps and bounds of progress in the last 25-30 years, going from steam trains (or some other kind of old train) to maglev trains.
Their insistence on change and progress may not sit well with someone who prefers things to stay the same. I don't know how their old people feel about things. Hell, China loves using AI for propaganda, and how old people in general can't seem to be able to distinguish AI from reality.
I didn't mean economically, but culturally. If you look at China, people often think it's a very static civilization, but it's not. "Mandate of Heaven" is literally about society changing drastically when it is necessary, unlike Japan, which has had a much more uniform history.

Christkike has shit taste as per usual. What a fucking garbage take

>>325339
I'm not a Christian and you don't seem capable of adult discussion, regardless.

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>>325336
>emphasis on personal growth
I stay away from wuxia, but for xianxia that looks like masturbation over power levels hiding emptiness of the setting with very little props giving it individual distinction. It's funny how there is implied power inflation affecting every corner of the setting every time the protag gets stronger.

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>>325343
Xianxia is just a cultural manifestation of China's martial arts history. The point of martial arts is concurrently the cultivation of the self along with combat capability. You could argue Dragonball is a distant relative to the genre as it places great emphasis on some similar themes.

>you have no culture 
>You're biology is incapable of make a culture more sophisticated then mudhuts
>Thousand yard nigger stare
That is how it goes every time.

>>325345
Personally, the most interesting titles belong to xuanhuan instead, because they fuse local and western elements. More variety of tools to use implies less repetition.

>>325347
Culture and technology aren't the same. As some court lady writing her novel titled "The Tale of Genji" demonstrates.

>>325355
cultural outputs are linked with the technological state of the society, and quite frankly the technology and dominance over material is what makes white's culture possible and better then everyone else's.

>>325348
I think that probably holds true for a lot of cases. Any specific titles to recommend? I've mainly been exposed to Wuxia and Xianxia on apps like WebComics, INKR and MangaToon. It'd be interesting to see like a specifically Eurasian fantasy that intentionally seeks to combine both poles into a coherent whole.

>>325347
>you're 
>then
>>325234 (OP) 
if you did not live in either place you likely don't really know what it's like to be there. Both places have different regions as well so even if you did you still would not know what you are talking about. As it is they are similar due to sharing that original kanji/etc bullshit and also dna regardless of what Fascists think. All that happened is that several thousand years ago the Chinese exiled some fishermen and that became all the other Asians. Some round eyed Japanese existed that got raped by Vikings I suspect and that made them sick in the head (sexually).

>>325379
You might try the webnovel or published novel version of Lord of Mysteries for well crafted entertainment. Throne of Magical Arcana and Warlock of the Magus World are less polished and too heavily inspired by western media, but I managed to read them without forcing myself at any point, unlike with History's Strongest Senior Brother, which wasn't to my taste, especially near the end. 108 Maidens of Destiny had some high points, if you ignore its Pokemon aspect, lol. Nothing else from over a dozen titles stuck in my memory to the same extent. Unless you want the warning to avoid something instead.

I won't help with manhua, never bothered with it, but searching through Mangaupdates or Mangabaka with tags you prefer would be more helpful than my recommendations. Although on Mangabaka you can still see something classified as Wuxia, but not as Xianxia nor Xuanhuan.

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>>325403
>if you did not live in either place you likely don't really know what it's like to be there.
Wow, really? What an astute observation. 

>>325408
Thanks for the recommendations. 

Anyway, I've downloaded this lad and we'll see how it performs on a Series S. I read that it's from a custom-designed engine, so maybe there'll be a sliver of hope for performance.

>>325411
Played some Where Winds Meet....the Wuxia setting is good and there's a lot of detail in the environment. It's attractively atmospheric and combat is a strength of the game, as is exploration. Unfortunately, the Series S isn't quite up to the task of running it sufficiently and it stutters frequently and frame drops are common. 

So, Chinese games I've played are: Naraka: Bladepoint, Honor of Kings, FragPunk and now this. All have been decent to good, so it looks the Yellow man, regardless of nationality, know what they're doing with videogames.

>>325553
Might stick with it if they can stabilize it more and fix the screen tearing and the stuttering and maybe just lock it to 30FPS.

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I feel more split on this one: Chinese vs Japanese food. 

Chinese food tends to place more emphasis on flavor through seasoning and flavor building. It's also systematic in a way and focuses on their fives tastes (sweet, salty, sour, bitter, umami). Chinese cuisine is about being somewhat bold. 

Japanese cuisine is more restrained. It tends to focus more on the flavors of individual pieces and emphasizes barely cooked or raw vegetables when they are served. 

Does anon have a preference in this realm?

>>325602
No contact, no preference. Although I guess talking about Chinese cuisine as a single subject looks weird to me. Sichuan province might be known for spicy food, but that's not necessarily right for other parts of China.