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If you can't trust the food you eat, the water you drink, or even the air you breath how can you trust anything the government says? What's left to trust at that point? Why would you trust any level of government?
>>317169 (OP) 
I trust the violence they can inflict
>>317169 (OP) 
I trust the violence I can inflict.
I know that "traditionalists" place a premium on having a "high-trust society" and to a degree, I agree with them, but I feel that distrust should be the default state of things. If an "expert" tells you something, you should seek to verify it yourself to the best of your ability. If the government tells you something, you should think of why they are saying that to you and how rationally justifiable it is. And lastly, you should not trust your average person. Niceness is not the same as trustworthiness. Loyalty is not the same as morality.
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>>317174
difference is back then you didn't have a global chimera feeding you the info they want you to believe in and showing you the sights they want you to see 24/7, everything was spread locally and gradually evolved as it spread over the years.
The jewish government is diagnosing people that distrust with mental disease. But if you are the opposite, trustful and naive, they don't diagnose and treat you, they exploit you as good goy.
>>317174
high trust only works if the punishment faced when breaking that trust is severe enough, like being decapitated with a guillotine

the problem is that we got "too civilized" and just expect that trust to stay even without consequences, which is retarded
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>>317184
A lot of the time that was paranoia though and false confessions
Social contracts without violation clauses are hollow.
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>>317169 (OP) 
All things considered, a healthy society shouldn't have "government" telling you much at all. If arguing how much of it is false has become a worthwhile topic of conversation, then you're already in trouble.
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>>317200
Then you would have someone else  to accuse of lying. Improvement much?
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>>317353
Huh? I meant to say that  the importance of government lying to you is directly proportional to how much influence said government has upon your life.
If government was restricted to its due responsibilities, then whatever lies they tell wouldn't be a matter to obsess about, for it wouldn't make that much a difference.
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>>317398
An answer for a question kindly provided now by "gov" would be given by someone else if the "gov" were uninvolved / silent about it. How much better would that be?
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>>317413
>How much better would that be?
Considerably better, in fact as good as you could get it. 
Assuming that said person giving you the answer is a fellow citizen and wouldn't have authority over you, (so as to force his will upon you even if you doubt his answer).
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>>317416
My doubts would be similar regardless.
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>>317417
Well that's a sign of a critical and inquisitive mind. Don't see the problem with that.
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>>317422
Most people become less trustworthy when you threaten their bottom line. That doesn't change much if you focus on their groups. Any groups.
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