>>317220
If consciousness is not from physics, then where from? God?
>>317234
>That (You)r human hardware can determine. That doesn't mean that cutting a live broccoli stalk doesn't react--indeed, it can be proven that it does, simply from the way plants have adapted to release chemicals to stop such attacks; nicotine, solanine, etc.
Do you have any evidence that plants feel suffering and consciousness like animals?
If they have chemicals to stop eating them, this doesn't prove anything. It's simple evolution and randomness, it is not a conscious decision of the plant to release the chemical.
>I am not advocating a should imperative here, but that taking life, any life, will cause a reaction to either attempt to preserve itself, or bemoan it's fate.
The evolution doesn't want someone to eat the plant. But the plant itself doesn't have mind and consciousness, doesn't feel anything.
>An onion does indeed scream when you cut into it, but that won't stop me from eating them.
It doesn't.
>I will always eat cows, birds, pigs and other animals as well. But it's MY sense of connectedness to everything that causes me to try to reduce the suffering of those animals as much as possible.
You are eating yourself, it another dimension, you are cannibal or actually self-cannibal.
If you had sense of connectedness you wouldn't eat animals.