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I like the Japanese aesthetic, but it feels oversaturated and lacking in some ways, so what are some Western comic and animation styles that you like and/or respect?

Todd McFarlane's style has always had high detail and energy while still being composed. The Coffin of Andy and Leyley shows that Westerners can produce simplistic, stylized characters in our own right and all the traditionally manga-looking depictions of them made by fans looks far more bland in comparison to the original designs. Courage the Cowardly Dog was excellent to me in terms of uniqueness and raw visual interest - everything looked warped and surreal. Lastly, I will give the devil his due, Hazbin Hotel. It's got the quirky Hot-Topic energy of yesteryear and has very distinctive and memorable character designs. I personally think the show is overrated, but it's currently the only Western animation I can think of that's reached significant popularity and the art is the primary reason why.
Everything after 1945 in the west is pozzed and judeo
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I like some of the stuff by Krystine Kryttre and Jhonen Vasquez.
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Show coffin of andy and leyley lewd art and porn pls
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>>299749
>bobs and vagene tier begging
indian detected
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>>299753
AAAARRRGGGHHHHH
>>299707 (OP) 
hazbin hotel was always a massive eye sore to me. Smiling friends is the superior show anyway.
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>>299729
Not everything.
>hazbo hotel
it has that jew nigger cock feeling like spongebob squarepants and every show on cartoon network and i never watched 3 nanoseconds of it after further confirming its shit by the fact that only the most loser dweebs in my high school watched it (cartoon network shit). the art style is ass and retarded at at least 3 levels of irony (whichever one the show is likely on)
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>>299783
Ed edd n eddy is kino though.
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I don't like cubism, but Samurai Jack had its moments.
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Only zillennial KINGS were able to grow up with pre-writer's strike CN. A curse upon Rebecca Sugar.
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One day I'd like to read Watchmen.
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I'm not into comics and never was, but Thorgal wasn't repulsive to me when I browsed some volumes when hanging out at someone's place. No idea how ((( progressive ))) it would seem now if re-read.
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>>299707 (OP) 
You seem to have a shallow hyper-individualistic view of art that it has to be unique at all costs, which is shared by a lot of modern westerners, including most present day western artists.
"Anime" styles go for a different philosophy of trying to look aesthetically pleasant and generally trying to make characters look attractive and/or cute, even if some "uniqueness" inherently has to be sacrificed. Good anime art actually takes a lot of time to learn and effort to make, whereas most western cartoons (including some of your examples) look like they were drawn by schizophrenic nine year olds in their notebooks during English class.
But even then, "anime" styles are pretty diverse (all within a general framework), and they only look samey if you compare them (either consciously or subconsciously) to modern western art, where everything tries to look "quirky" and super different from each other (but in the end most of them look bad).
Case in point, here's an example of the same character drawn by five different artists. It's easy to notice the differences between the art styles (and I'm not even talking about different clothing, hair style, etc); otherwise you're actually mentally crippled (reversibly, fortunately) by modern western art.
Now I can agree that anime as in literally anime, the TV animation series, are less visually diverse, but that's not as much of a problem on itself as the fact that they just don't look as good as non-animated illustrations in manga, standalone illustrations, VNs, etc, since they have to cut corners to prioritize animation.
PS: The pictures I posted are actually comparatively samey because those are pictures I have saved because I liked the refined aesthetic. But as an example of how truly diverse anime styles can be, there's the 2hu thread, for example >>294276 . The point I was trying to make isn't that "anime styles can be unique/diverse too!", but still, I got to point that out.
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>>299746
>Krystine Kryttre
This woman's art style feels very characteristically late 80's-90's, but I like it. 

>Jhonen Vasquez
I feel conflicted about him. He can be technically very proficient, but there's like a fundamental overexaggeration to all his art that I feel detracts from his character design. All his characters are very sharp, spindly, pointy and overly reliant on portrayal of eyes. As a result, I feel like I get bored of looking at his characters because they're just big (and little) corn stalks with giant bulbous eyes. It's distinctive, but I'm not sure I can count myself as a fan. I think my personal gripes are that his art just lacks beauty and is too much of the Tool/Korn aesthetic for me and it looks somewhat childish. 

>>299777
>hazbin hotel was always a massive eye sore to me
Why do you say that? 

>Smiling friends is the superior show anyway.
Never saw it. *Does quick search*. IDK, all the characters just look like shapes. I feel like I would get bored of watching it for that reason alone. 

>>299783
>it has that jew nigger cock feeling
What? Why do some of you always have to bring up the concept of 'nigger cock?' Stop saying that. 

>like spongebob squarepants
Early Spongebob was fun before it got embedded into the popular consciousness. It was inane, but also had humor adults could enjoy without being entirely puerile. 

>the art style is ass and retarded at at least 3 levels of irony (whichever one the show is likely on)
I don't think it's ass and Medrano does a good job with character designs. Like Invader Zim, it relies entirely on le quirkiness and I can't really appreciate watching either to a high degree because the stories are just too unstimulating. It is polished, though, one example being Alastor's voice, which has like an old-time radio filter over it, which is a nice touch. I put it and Zim in the same category as all style and no substance, but I think Hazbin is a little superior in my opinion. I do remember reading a "critique" of the style by some retard on Tumblr and the criticisms were literally that the characters are too skinny (no fat people), too White and some other shit dumb shit.
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>>300516
>you seem to
retarded 8 year old developed brain autist larping as adult
>hyper dis an dat
stopped reading there
>trash anime picrels
strike 3
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>>300543
>retarded 8 year old developed brain autist larping as adult
mature things for mature people like myself
>stopped reading there
illiteracy badly disguised as projected maturity and "you can't tell me what to do"
>strike 3
homosexuality
sage negated
>>300543
>chino
>trash anime 
Back to tvchan
>>300537
>Never saw it.
If you've ever seen a Newgrounds parody animation then you've already seen Smiling Friends.
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>>300558
It's even lamer, they can't be as edgy as they were on Newgrounds.
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>>300562
We had DJ spit being a mocking caricature of latinxes at least.
>>300562
And the adult animation industry is so shit that this is still high bar.
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>>300516
>You seem to have a shallow hyper-individualistic
Meaningless buzzterm.

>view of art that it has to be unique at all costs
I never said or implied that. Uniqueness is but one trait that art can be judged on. Let's take picrel, it's called "Comedian". It's a banana taped to a wall. It's extremely unique, but I consider it trash. It's a meant to be a corny statement about what is and isn't art and it sold for over 6 million dollars, but it's trash to me, regardless of novelty value. 

Part of my praise of uniqueness is tied to identity. It makes sense for your images to eschew significant distinctiveness because they are trying to portray a wholesome cuteness and aesthetically, they accomplish it. I consider it good art, even if it doesn't strike my eye that much. 

>>299786
EEE was cool and I've been watching it since it came to Prime Video. It has a weird style, like everything has a liquid like quality and could melt at any moment, if that makes sense. 

>>299787
It did, I felt like it was good at building atmospheric moments. 

>>299874
It's not bad, but overrated, imo. 

>>299888
If it's the European equivalent of or in proximity to Conan the Barbarian, it shouldn't be too or at all "woke".
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>>302472
>Part of my praise of uniqueness is tied to identity.
<things that i like
You revel in nostalgia over old Cartoon Network shows, (which is completely fine) and you didn't really understand why people liked anime during similar times.
It is still, however, retarded to claim that anime artstyles are "samey", or, if you're OP, "oversaturated and lacking".
Surely Panty and Stocking would be up your alley? Even if the director, or directors, are retarded and didn't think that people would care enough to want a sequel.
Or, you know, Power Puff Girls Z.
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>>302473
>You revel in nostalgia over old Cartoon Network shows
Please stop projecting. I'm not one for nostalgia. If I remember something fondly, it's because I value it regardless of relation to time or the events surrounding it. I was never a fan of Kids Next Door. Billy & Mandy was a meh for me. Ben 10 may as well not exist. 

>and you didn't really understand why people liked anime during similar times.
Brother, I used to watch DBZ, Outlaw Star, Gundam Wing and more on the original Toonami. I watched Cowboy Bebop, Trigun and Wolf's Rain when Adult Swim got into anime. I was part of the time when anime hadn't quite embedded itself into the mainstream of the West. I generally liked and still like manga and anime more than what the West has to offer, which is unfortunate in my eyes. 

>It is still, however, retarded to claim that anime artstyles are "samey"
I don' remember making or implying this claim and I certainly don't hold it. 

>or, if you're OP, "oversaturated and lacking".
Those are my sentiments. My problem is that my people have unfortunately been outcompeted artistically by the Japanese and I wish I could see more White animation and comics that capture me as much as anime and manga. That is what the part I feel is "lacking". I want more Europid distinctiveness in a qualitative, not quantitative sense.
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>>299707 (OP) 
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>>302477
As a short person, IDK how to respond to this....
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>>302478
It is just for brother and sister
>>302477
6 fingered ai slop
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>>302480
Maybe that was intentional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polydactyly#Epidemiology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_among_the_Amish
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedigree_collapse
Maybe relevant if considered together. snicker
Making this thread made me realize how deficient Western comics and animation are. It's something we should be ashamed of. Western comics have been excessively oriented around capeshit (of which I'm guilty of having indulged in growing up) and the indie comics outside of them were never that good, either. In addition, Western animation oscillates between content aimed towards children and "adult animation" that is generally relegated to comedy. There are of course exceptions, but again, they're both woefully lacking in quantity and quality. There are no Western animations or comics that I can proudly say that I hold as dear to me as manga and anime and that's depressing.
>>305840
>we
Nah, nothing made past the 1900s could have been good as we were balls deep into dysgenics by that point
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>>305840
The only good western animation was french.
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>>305842
Greek Mythology was the original capeshit. We are the same type of virtue signallers we've always been. You could not go to heaven unless a hero. "Hero". Hubris is found to be a sin later but it's bread into the bone with us, that egotism that we have to help people rather than be humble. "Bro let me invade your nation so I can help you bro" they hated Rome for that shit and they hate the west for it and also England for it's colonization as well. You're not saving nor enahncing anything, you're getting what you deserve, muslimes and jews and niggers and spics that your genes told you to 'save'. The Germans hated jews and also Rome and helped to take down Rome along with the Orientals. The Japanese naturally sided with Hitler as they were never part of that gay Roman shit. They wanted to get rid of invaders not become them. Don't ask for a thank you when you attack people, faggot ass Romans.Conquest is fine if people around you are totally inferior also, kill them rather than say 'act as we do'. "All roads lead to Rome". "When in Rome do as the Romans do". Bullshit. Get out.  Everyone wants to copy them so they can 'rule the world' due to hubris. Nobody needed the heroe's help. Christians do this over zealous thing to this day where they will literally invade places that don't cater to their beliefs, like abortion clinics or porn stores, attempting to drive them away and often they succeed. Playing an instrument or drawing? The Roman.exse will activate and tell you to join the army. In Japan they don't tell their kids they can't be a flight attendent unless female, they don't have that Roman soldier living in their heads for all time. If the kid wants to play a flute he does, he is not bullied over it like in a Europoid setting of barbaric principles. In japan half the characters have blue hair but right now literally the Europoids are crying their eyes out over blue hair as it is aligned with being spiritually free. If you were spiritually free you'd not have to save anybody. Why feel so guilty that you needed to be saved through saving someone else, or believing in Jesus? Deeply disturbed the white man is, genetically flawed. The Orientals are going to win. Germans could have won, Slavs could have, but they lost already, the non-Roman  pozzed breeds of whites were dominated by the more aligned to Roman genetic having ones. The Chinese have dominated through literally just having the biggest economy. You can try to be the big bad soldier all you want but it's idiotic to think the world can just be marched all over when they outnumber the foot soldier and you cannot do the whiny baby and nuke everyone either as that will backfire.  
>>305840
It's because Europid children are childish virtue signallers. 
>chldren being childish
Japanese children are less childish is my point. Surely you noticed that there are more mature themes in manga than in our capeshit? They are more mature, the Japanese. One of the main reasons stranger Europoids got into anime/manga is that it didn't have as much naive bullshit in it. More antiheroes and darkness/maturity in anime/manga. We have an innocent kiss, or it shows a hero saving someone from rape, while in contrast anime thinks  rape is funny and random upskirts happen and gender bending and etc. That and blatant porn, hentai rather, of course. In our stores we used to have stuff like Alice in Wonderland porn but we banned it long ago due to virtue singalling. Church members used to invade such porn stores and force them out of town. That does not happen in Japan as they are more mature. They're not as bigoted and let people be themselves. In the West they acted like Joss was le stunning and brave over making Willow a lesbian for example. Compare that to shit just as old in Japan, they were all over that gay shit in children's cartoons due to blatant artistic freedom. It's funny that to this day you cannot say fuck nor shit on the radio. I wonder if we started that sort of bullshit? You know we did.   Put that flute down, it's gay, you can't be a flight attendant! Only girls llike scooters, ride a motorcycle! Do you have a staring problem? I bet my dad can beat up ur dad! Europoids are retardedly childish emotionally. 
>>305843
As funny as that is why not mention it so we can all know the entire joke?
>>305901
I liked a lot of the first section of your post.
>Europid children childish virtue signallers.
Yeah there is a bunch of virtue signallers but who is the most virtue signalling? jews and non-whites, orientals are also the highest virtue-signallers while their porn is degenerate as fuck and they torture animals for example. 
Also actual virtue does exist, and rape of someone in your kin is dysgenic, and so is faggot shit, the biggest issue is traits for the outgroup, and if Europid had proper leaders the masses of lemmings could be snapped into shape. Also what you perceive as childish because whatever reasons is not childish and feels it comes a bit against your whole notion of "freedom" as-well, wholesome fun and simple virtues (lacking around the world at the moment) are all you need to be healthy and still dominate, war is just another game and test of skill, feasting in gore and twisted shit doesn't provide any necessary value to winning objectives other that desensitization for whatever might come up for your role.

It's also retarded how you speak about wanting a looser and more free place, this is what we have now, fag shit is everywhere and you can do anything and dye your hair, make rape shit, the most punished thing right now is actual virtue or anything that goes against degeneracy, though some wholesomeness is still defended by the white biomass innate in them, it is the white base instinct that still defends an albiet small area of wholesomeness and productivity that is keeping the modern Rome running. 

I see some truth still in what you say but you fuck it up, and as far as the more "rough" examples of people you speak of in your examples at the end, those usually could use some more nurturing for their own children but these rougher parts are better than the "well if your into it" "I'm not going to kink shame" "ah my boy likes pink! lets get him a pink scooter!" 
Fuck all of that, be harder and don't stare at men who will call out your primal challenge of their authority, challenge between kids like the "I bet my dad can beat yours up" "I bet I can run faster than you, hah I won, loser!" 
This is prototypical men bonding and friendship, I flipped off my friends as a child and we pushed eachother but also supported eachother and helped eachother grow. those more "rough" people too will respond if you don't be such a bitch and step and show you are a man too and not just cry, if you can defend your stance and hold your frame, you can do what you want, you just need to demonstrate it's not faggy, fags and jews used this little psychology against whites during the transition to current globohomo where in earlier stages they had shows like south park where fags were played and acted like they were masculine like "Yeah I am a fag, fight me, what's wrong with it" and the issue is conservative types pussied out and weren't hard enough, liberals just waste traitors already, christucks "love all, help teach the clear enemies better" and the fact that the west already captured by jews and heavily cemented after WW2 finished.
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>>305904
Either you have freedom to act retarded AND freedom to mock it, or  it's posturing with something else under the name freedom. And why is that wall of text posting anon thinking that orientals have more freedom? Aren't they usually more conformist in their social values? The whole social 'face' concept?
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>>305904
Are the Orientals angry at left wingers? If no, could it be due to some old ((( story ))) about Sodom and Gaymorah? Could it be that Abrahamics don't beleive in equality as some are to go to hell and some to heaven? Do Abrahamics love violence and is it a war monger's religion? Didn't jesus come to make war and not peace for example? Hitler had a gay Nazi called Rohm when at the same time doctors were putting gays into the loony bin in the USA and even in Rome they might have fucked gays jsut to punish them, the ol' "you won't even like dick anymore after I am done with you". Do you even know what it means to be white? Christianity, Judaism, Islam, bullying that's passed down. It's not prototypical men bonding and friendship, it's passed down abuse. LIke when christians say "this hurts me more than it hurts you" as the whipped their kids just because the bible read to do so. 

You hafta go save heckin' valid Palestinian children from gay fent scooters or they might enjoy playing on a skin flute some day whilst having a skin flute themselves! A man might enjoy riding in a plane for lower pay rather than egotistically control the plane like a big impressive man that lives only for shekels that are meant to secure his very  non humble wife! 
>>305908
They made the choice to be conformist rather than were forced to be conformist via tyranny. It's why their art is more free. Their minds are more free.  

>>299729
Didn't the original comics the west made show heroes with smaller heads so as to imply that knowledge is evil? Put that apple down, it draws lightning!
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I just don't care about TV, but I was playing this game the other day that's based on some old cartoon I never watched. The sprites are kinda cute, and the controls are ok, but it's easy to get ganked when moving between screens because you can't see what lies ahead (or up or down, whatever the case may be). But that's normal for these 8-bit computer games. Overall not bad, and I'll probably finish this one.
>>305909
>Are the Orientals angry at left wingers?
Isn't that generally better to learn from mistakes of others than your own? Assuming that you would still manage to avoid repeating them later.
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>>305901
>we've always been.
I will grant you that whites have always had disposition for empathy, mercy, low negative ethnocentrism, and self sacrifice, but it was always kept in check by the ecology killing those that had too many genes that doubled down on such things until industrialization.
ultimately it is genetic attraction to novelty, and that allows great innovation, and something no other racial does, a speeding up the civilization cycle
white people are the manifestation of the strategy of high risk, high reward
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>>305901
>Greek Mythology was the original capeshit. 
I feel this is reductive and not entirely true. All cultures have their heroic mythos. It's not at all unique to the Greeks and the Japanese have theirs, too. Greek myths were also more morally complex than what you're suggesting; gods could occasionally be pricks and subject to bouts of scheming, cruelty and so on. 

The rest of that tangent, I generally agree-ish with. 

>Japanese children are less childish is my point. Surely you noticed that there are more mature themes in manga than in our capeshit? They are more mature, the Japanese.
More mature, but also more creative. Take for example Cells at Work! It's about anthropomorphized blood cells going about their business in the human body and I like it. That's a  novel concept and it works. In Western comics/animation, there's a much narrower range of ideas and you next to never see anything like that. One of the things people criticize Western comics for in comparison to manga is the lack of diversity and they're right. There's a very severe lack of creativity, so everything keeps getting funneled into the same trite garbage. 

>More antiheroes and darkness/maturity in anime/manga.
There's also antiheroes and darkness in Western comics, but it's much cornier. The Punisher is cringe. Spawn, despite my praise of McFarlane's art is cringe (he's literally a nigger), along with all the over the top edgy shit. That's the general case. It's poor ideas and poor execution on a frequent basis. 

Anyway, back to art. One Western 'hero' I can conceptually appreciate is Judge Dredd. I think he has a distinctive design, but is more of a neutral character. He is the blatant commentary of authority and his creator even said he upholds a corrupt system. I also appreciate this mentality:

>Dredd's entire face is never shown in the strip. This began as an unofficial guideline, but soon became a rule.[30] As John Wagner explained: "It sums up the facelessness of justice − justice has no soul. So it isn't necessary for readers to see Dredd's face, and I don't want you to".

So, there's a lack of heroism. Dredd is just the system anthropomorphized . 

>>305843
Examples?
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>>306103
>That's a novel concept and it works.
Maybe you should check if you are wrong?
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>>306103
>Examples?
this isn't one, i just like it
>>306106
?
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>>306106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQUf7xma46o
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>>306116
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Upon_a_Time..._Life
Have fun.
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>>306118
>>306117
Fair enough and thank you. This does kinda pertain to what I said earlier about a lot of Western animation being disproportionately geared towards kids. In this context, the setting is just used as a teaching tool, not as a creative backdrop.
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>>306124
Still wrong to call that novel if that's a rehash of an earlier idea.
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>>306126
Yes, I was wrong, but I wouldn't necessarily call it a rehash. One is used as an educational tool and the other is used as a legitimate creative setting. I think there's novelty in using it for the latter.
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>>306128
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartakus_and_the_Sun_Beneath_the_Sea
I'd rather complain about woke themes than the target audience, but difference in creativity is not something defensible enough.
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>>306129
>but difference in creativity is not something defensible enough.
I think it is and intention matters. The educational nature of Once Upon a Time relegates the concept of the body to a superficial role. The difference between that and Cells is that Cells has to use the setting more organically, in consideration of its elements to construct a world with meaningful characters and lore, rather than just as an engine to teach. It's more original and unconventional in that regard. Take this panel, for instance. The cells are fanatical in their fight against germs. That's a humorous characterization based on their function. It takes the setting and adds its own personality, just like how the cells are dressed in worker uniforms and wielding knives, unlike Life's literal representation of them as red blobs. It's not the same.
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>>306137
Red cells don't fight anything, and them lacking nuclei makes them servile blobs. I prefer verisimilitude to pointless fancy. White blood cells aren't represented the same way as red blood cells and they shouldn't be. Red cells are restricted to blood vessels, white cells have exclusive clearance to patrol different tissues just like a totalitarian society distinguishes between its castes. Maybe you should apply more effort to your post. Fixed, lol.
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>>306141
>Red cells don't fight anything
That's not the point. 

>I prefer verisimilitude to pointless fancy. 
Then why do you even watch cartoons in the first place? It seems you shouldn't have a horse in this race if you don't value imagination.
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>>306143
Not because cartoons take inspiration from reality?
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>>306145
And a human body would be quite a hellhole if made into a society of its cells masqueraded as people, lol. A closer representation of reality has funnier connotations.
>>306145
>>306147
It just feels like a weird line to draw. You say you care about verisimilitude, yet don't mind abstractions. I can appreciate the educative value of Life, but Cells more "fanciful" take for the purpose of entertainment is more artistically valuable to me and it's more original in the context we're discussing. We're kind of comparing apples and oranges, kind of not. They serve two different purposes.
>>306147
It would turn into mostly cancer and die in short order
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>>306149
I meant that as for a society to be closer to typical body, not closer for a body to  typical industrial society. Cancer rights aren't cell rights, lol.
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>>306150
And collateral damage to innocent surrounding would be commonplace. Better to be excessive than be sorry. Not exactly something you would teach kids about society. I'm actually impressed how that edutainment frog anime had hidden all uncomfortable implications.
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I forgot about the Venture Bros. I always liked this show, so I'll have to revisit it and see if my feelings remain. I recall enjoying the awkward humor and I think the stylized Western pop-art style works well for it.
Bump for when I add more to this.
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This is all from an artist called Sweeney Boo and I think it's decent for simple and stylized.
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Goosebumps art was so good, would've loved to see whole graphic novels in this style.
>>312050
disgusting
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>>312064
That bad? Her art has the woketard vibe, but it in a better way than her contemporaries from what I've seen.  Looks like Disney + Tumblr, but with a little more polish.
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>>300516
>You seem to have a shallow hyper-individualistic view of art that it has to be unique at all costs
I'm going to bet you are hyper-autistic and think all aesthetic converges on a single perfect form.  Also she looks the same across all 5 artists.
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>>312125
>Also she looks the same across all 5 artists.
Did the Bosnian artillery blind you?
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>>312128
Slight changes in design due to the artist's hand, software, and shading techniques. I don't want to leave this as a tit-for-tat reply and I'm not in the mood to argue now so if you have a bone to pick with me lay out your accusations and pros and I will address them eventually (or not).
>>299707 (OP) 
I think that Andy and Leyle and Hazbin Hotel look good but the vast majority of comics/animations made by the west are trash by untalented hacks
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>>312125
>you can be right exactly as often as be wrong
It's more likely that aesthetics would converge than it wouldn't, but that's me. Disregarding randomness of preferences.
>>299707 (OP) 
So if the girl is Ashley then why is the game called the Coffin of Andy and Layley?
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>>299707 (OP) 
>The Coffin of Andy and Leyley shows that Westerners can produce simplistic, stylized characters in our own right
It is shrimply using the tried and true method of giving the characters feline skulls. Look at any CG where they are seen from a profile view and you will notice that they are drawn with the anime snout.
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>>313284
True, but it seems to work. I just noticed that I like the coloration of their eyes against all the monochrome.
>>312357
>Ash'ley'
Turns into
>'Leyley'
>>299707 (OP) 
>but it feels oversaturated 
Because it is the lowest common denominator.  Art made to be sold fast for entertainment, safe, without risk of damaging the image of big studios.   No wonder they became AI training images, because they are all the same.
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>>314062
Eh, the Japanese style is attractive and charismatic. I understand the popularity. 

>>312134
A lot of them seem to have talent in that they are technically proficient in creating what they want, but often what they want is unattractive. For example, look at this side profile of Superman. It's just hideous.
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>>314077
>to be a superhero, you need also a super exaggerated case of goiter
I wonder, lol.
>>314077
>the humiym have begun noticing
I'd like to add that while Hazbin Hotel has decent character design, the writing is terrible and it says a lot that it's one of the most popular Western animations currently, unfortunately. It's pretty much Invader Zim level crap.
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>>314689
>It's pretty much Invader Zim level crap.
I've never watched that; elaborate.
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>>314691
They both have the same kind of puerile, frenetic energy that values loudness over substance. 'Edgy' humor like swearing and "lol, look at this casual violence" as well as the most rudimentary writing possible on anything outside of it. For example, expect daddy issues, 'trauma', extremely simplistic portrayals of themes like redemption and so on.
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It's unfortunate how popular Hazbin Hotel is becoming. I get that sometimes dumb is OK, but it does nothing besides that to warrant its popularity.
>>306147
>>306152
Another thing that especially stands out is the expected lifespan length for different cell types varying between days and decades in the extremes, those in small intestine lining lasting only a few days, erythrocytes 3 to 4 months, some memory T cells a decade or more and some neurons even longer. Something incongruous to anthropomorphizing them believably enough.
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I'm partial to Jinjer-zilla.
>PDF included
<PAYLOAD too large
Welp!
>>315185
i had an Ex who just Adored Invader Zim.
many a time did I endure a retarded:
>Hello Floor! Make me a sammich!

I suppose to her credit, she had the graphic novels and wasn't into the animations.
She also liked BONE for some reason, which was ok I guess.
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>>322662
>i had an Ex who just Adored Invader Zim
Was she a scene girl or an alt-girl? 

>She also liked BONE for some reason, which was ok I guess.
That was always one I'd see around. Worth checking out? 

Anyway, I learned about Ongezellig because apparently some recent shooter who killed some shitskins at a Mosque in San Diego liked it and so I checked out the first episode on YT and it wasn't bad. The art style is good for the show; the writing isn't try-hard and actually made me chuckle a couple times and you can tell it's made by someone who probably isn't your typical representative in the animation sphere. I'll watch more.
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>>322662
Is Invader Zim actually any good?
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>>322998
>Was she a scene girl or an alt-girl? 
YES.
I mean to say, she was a "Betty" who would change to whatever group she thought she liked at the time.
I didn't know what a wreck she was until it was too late.
<Many such stories
Not as much scene, more poseur gothy she was likely a Chan lurker, but at the time, I didn't know about that other than she liked to attach herself to groups that were of that persuasion.

Word to the wise:
Never get involved with a single Mom, no matter how enticing she might seem. It's Always a losing proposition for you.
She only managed to keep the crazy(passive) in for about a month after we were "Locked in"
As far as Bone goes, I think it was just about the art style for her. I never read any of them.
Seems to have the same aesthetic as Moomins or Shmoo.

I was more a "Myth Adventures" kinda guy.
That was more than a decade ago.
Tempus Fuggit
>>323000
>Is Invader Zim actually any good?
Dunno. I never actually picked it up.
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