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From what I remember: dream journal is a must, learning how to wake up without opening your eyelids immediately, make a habit of checking if you are dreaming by looking at your palm and concentrating on the fact that you are awake if you practice it enough it will be your key to lucid adventures.
I know some books on the topic but they are all in slav, and all my sources for the info are dead slav imageboards.
Also persistence I tried it for month with some results and kind of stopped doing it

>>2209
Russian? If so post, them

uuuuuuh Is it true I can have SEX in a lucid Dream?
Can I live out my questionable unrealistic fetishes and enjoy them fully as if they were REAL???

>>2211
Just make sure not to confuse real life with a dream and accidentally rape your mother or something

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>>2210
Here is a 12 year old .pdf should be enough information to get you started.

>>2212
so you're saying its just like the real thing? with anyone or anything i can imagine? no matter how morally questionable it is?

Teach me your ways

>>2214
Yeah, but more than likely you will end up getting raped by demons.

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>>2215
>but more than likely you will end up getting raped by demons.
Now I'm really interested

>>2216
I would share some techniques with you, brother, but then I would be responsible for your soul after your rectum was impregnated with satan's spawn.

what method works most consistently with lucid dreaming?

>>2219
The method I used, which honestly, I cannot remember where I learned it from, was to have reminders built in throughout the day. Such as looking at a clock or watch and asking if you are awake. I did that for quite a while, not sure how long, but then one night, I had a dream in which I did that, and as it was supposed to, triggered me to realize I was dreaming, and then I had complete control of my dream. I eventually stopped playing around with lucid dreaming as I would get too excited and then wake up mentally, but my body was still asleep, and I would be in a sleep paralysis state. It got too annoying, so I have not done it in a long time.

> tldr Have reminders throughout the day that will carry over into your dreams that trigger you into realizing you are dreaming.

>>2220
>addendum

The reminders are there to help you notice that the dream world is slightly off. Using the watch or clock technique and asking if you are awake is intended to help you perceive the distortions between reality and the dream, so it causes the trigger.

>>2222
digits

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How do i prevent insomnia when trying the WBTB method? i find myself unable to fall back asleep after waking up
should i take Melatonin to help with my sleep?

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>>2222
It all depends on your perspective

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>>2208 (OP) 
I did my research a few years ago before losing interest.
Do maximize the frequency and quality, you do dream journaling (already mentioned) and mind&body-sense awareness meditation (with completely no non-essential movement or eye movement) as a tool to drift into sleep. One thing I haven't tried yet is to gaslight yourself that you're already lucid dreaming even before you've fallen asleep.
The secondary buildings blocks would likely be generally taking care of brain's health, and trying out different practices that involve different types and areas of metacognition.

> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10773514/
>Alpha waves can be much higher during LDs than during REM sleep
Push the brain towards specific lucid dream-associated frequencies by listening to their sound forms before and/or during sleep.
And don't forget the classics of taking melatonin (up to 15 mg) before sleep, doing reality tests (pinch yourself or something, and do some math in your mind; already mentioned) during wake time to make it such a habit that it bleeds into the dreamworld, having a diet and lifestyle good for neuroplasticity and gut health, et cetera.

>>2209
>wake up without opening eyelids
That's more about drifting into potential hypnagogic dreams. Just to clarify.

>>2227
Open the most boring books you can find and start reading.

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>>2245
You could also look up which non-neurotoxic/non-toxic (I'm not your dad, DYOR) herbs are good at making dreams/nightmares more clear. Empirically, valerian root tea helped me.

>>2213
The only good recs in the PDF are making dream maps, categorizing your dream characters, taking glycine, and the suggestion of using whatever hypnosis you can to get yourself into LD. The literature rec list is trashy; best it has is Jung who will only tell you how to do active imagination but not the actual lucid dreaming.

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>>2246
so if i master lucid dreaming i can hang out with my favorite 2hus, right?
Now tell me how to induce a permanent coma or make a time chamber in my dream

>>2208 (OP) 
Hey op im not well versed in lucid dreaming itself but im a hermetic occultist and so i think i could be of atleast some help 
What in particular are you struggeling with?

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>>2261
falling back asleep after waking during the WBTB method. most of the times i just end up with insomnia and screw my schedule.
doesn't help that recent events have added some stress and uncertainty with the future, which is making sleep harder as my mind is troubled.
aside from that, I've yet to attain lucidity after 18 days.

How the hell does lucid dreaming even work

>>2290
You wake up but your body remains asleep. Can cause problems with sleep paralysis if you are prone to it. It takes practice, but it is doable for most everyone.

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20 days in and little to no luck.
any advice?

>>2311
Tell us about your training

>>2312
WBTB plus taking 15mg Melatonin an hour before bed and doing reality checks frequently throughout the day.

>>2313
There is a supplement that you can take that may help. I cannot remember off the top of head, but when I get home I will go through some stuff.

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>>2314
tell me when you do!

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>>2315
So, the supplement I remember reading about was, I believe, Galantamine. Here is one product that has it and is marketed for lucid dreaming. I don't think the product alone will cause a lucid dream, but in combination with what you are already doing, it might be the final cause that breaks the dam and your first lucid dream. I have never taken it myself, as I have some degree of sleep paralysis off and on since I was a kid, so becoming lucid in my dreams seemed a bit easier for me. If you haven't already started keeping a dream diary and recording as many of your dreams as possible, I would suggest starting. Anything you can do to make yourself more aware of your dreams is always good. The link below is for a 2018 study on the effects of Galantamine on lucid dreaming.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6082533/

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>>2316
>>2315
Forgot the pic for the product. There might be better Galantamine sources out there, this is just the first I came across. I hope this is helpful

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i've recently had a major breakthrough, but not a lucid dream yet.
 i was buying melatonin on some shitty pharmacy store for lucid dreaming, in my dream. and after some dream nonsense later on i noticed it was 13:00, but it was night outside. but i woke up shortly after as this occurred shortly before my alarm went off.
doing an anchor by holding my thumb and index finger together has had a noticeable effect, and i will be doing it along side all my other things.
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>>2317
This seems interesting, I'll keep an eye out for it.

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>>2208 (OP) 
Be careful what you wish for

I had a dream last night where i was somehow hugging a giraffe through a fence, it was very comfy until suddenly hyena came and attacked it in the neck and sucked its blood slurping it out of its neck. Another dream was a diahrea attack and i shit myself publicly, literally couldn't stop shitting all in the same night.

can i hang out with my waifu in a lucid dream?

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>>2320
>Another dream was a diahrea attack and i shit myself publicly, literally couldn't stop shitting all in the same night.
this is (You)?

>>2318
Sounds like you are getting really close. Keep it up you are almost there ☺️

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Once again, very close to a lucid dream!
I took a short nap in the day having barely slept last night
after a brief dream, i was awake once more, but then i noticed i was becoming increasingly paralyzed. this was proof that i was about to enter sleep paralysis, and thus a chance to enter a lucid dream!
but unfortunately the paralysis faded and i woke up properly.
Considering this incident with yesterday, I think I'm very close towards having a lucid dream!

>>2330
>cant lucid dream
consider suicide retard

>>2330
awesome!