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Could you share some advice for someone looking into becoming lucid in their dreams?
there is a lot i wish to experiment with it, i read one can practice skills in a lucid dream and become better at it in the real world, and that one could have a conversation with their subconscious. 
the potential of this perplexes me, and i wish to explore its secrets.

I've tried for over two weeks now with minimal results, what techniques and tips would you recommend to help me become lucid?
Please. and thank you.
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From what I remember: dream journal is a must, learning how to wake up without opening your eyelids immediately, make a habit of checking if you are dreaming by looking at your palm and concentrating on the fact that you are awake if you practice it enough it will be your key to lucid adventures.
I know some books on the topic but they are all in slav, and all my sources for the info are dead slav imageboards.
Also persistence I tried it for month with some results and kind of stopped doing it
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>>2209
Russian? If so post, them
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uuuuuuh Is it true I can have SEX in a lucid Dream?
Can I live out my questionable unrealistic fetishes and enjoy them fully as if they were REAL???
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>>2211
Just make sure not to confuse real life with a dream and accidentally rape your mother or something
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>>2210
Here is a 12 year old .pdf should be enough information to get you started.
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>>2212
so you're saying its just like the real thing? with anyone or anything i can imagine? no matter how morally questionable it is?

Teach me your ways
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>>2214
Yeah, but more than likely you will end up getting raped by demons.
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>>2215
>but more than likely you will end up getting raped by demons.
Now I'm really interested
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>>2216
I would share some techniques with you, brother, but then I would be responsible for your soul after your rectum was impregnated with satan's spawn.
what method works most consistently with lucid dreaming?
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>>2219
The method I used, which honestly, I cannot remember where I learned it from, was to have reminders built in throughout the day. Such as looking at a clock or watch and asking if you are awake. I did that for quite a while, not sure how long, but then one night, I had a dream in which I did that, and as it was supposed to, triggered me to realize I was dreaming, and then I had complete control of my dream. I eventually stopped playing around with lucid dreaming as I would get too excited and then wake up mentally, but my body was still asleep, and I would be in a sleep paralysis state. It got too annoying, so I have not done it in a long time.

> tldr Have reminders throughout the day that will carry over into your dreams that trigger you into realizing you are dreaming.
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>>2220
>addendum

The reminders are there to help you notice that the dream world is slightly off. Using the watch or clock technique and asking if you are awake is intended to help you perceive the distortions between reality and the dream, so it causes the trigger.
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How do i prevent insomnia when trying the WBTB method? i find myself unable to fall back asleep after waking up
should i take Melatonin to help with my sleep?
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>>2222
It all depends on your perspective
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>>2208 (OP) 
I did my research a few years ago before losing interest.
Do maximize the frequency and quality, you do dream journaling (already mentioned) and mind&body-sense awareness meditation (with completely no non-essential movement or eye movement) as a tool to drift into sleep. One thing I haven't tried yet is to gaslight yourself that you're already lucid dreaming even before you've fallen asleep.
The secondary buildings blocks would likely be generally taking care of brain's health, and trying out different practices that involve different types and areas of metacognition.

> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10773514/
>Alpha waves can be much higher during LDs than during REM sleep
Push the brain towards specific lucid dream-associated frequencies by listening to their sound forms before and/or during sleep.
And don't forget the classics of taking melatonin (up to 15 mg) before sleep, doing reality tests (pinch yourself or something, and do some math in your mind; already mentioned) during wake time to make it such a habit that it bleeds into the dreamworld, having a diet and lifestyle good for neuroplasticity and gut health, et cetera.

>>2209
>wake up without opening eyelids
That's more about drifting into potential hypnagogic dreams. Just to clarify.

>>2227
Open the most boring books you can find and start reading.
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>>2245
You could also look up which non-neurotoxic/non-toxic (I'm not your dad, DYOR) herbs are good at making dreams/nightmares more clear. Empirically, valerian root tea helped me.

>>2213
The only good recs in the PDF are making dream maps, categorizing your dream characters, taking glycine, and the suggestion of using whatever hypnosis you can to get yourself into LD. The literature rec list is trashy; best it has is Jung who will only tell you how to do active imagination but not the actual lucid dreaming.
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>>2245
>>2246
so if i master lucid dreaming i can hang out with my favorite 2hus, right?
Now tell me how to induce a permanent coma or make a time chamber in my dream
>>2208 (OP) 
Hey op im not well versed in lucid dreaming itself but im a hermetic occultist and so i think i could be of atleast some help 
What in particular are you struggeling with?
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>>2261
falling back asleep after waking during the WBTB method. most of the times i just end up with insomnia and screw my schedule.
doesn't help that recent events have added some stress and uncertainty with the future, which is making sleep harder as my mind is troubled.
aside from that, I've yet to attain lucidity after 18 days.
How the hell does lucid dreaming even work
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>>2290
You wake up but your body remains asleep. Can cause problems with sleep paralysis if you are prone to it. It takes practice, but it is doable for most everyone.
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20 days in and little to no luck.
any advice?
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>>2311
Tell us about your training
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>>2312
WBTB plus taking 15mg Melatonin an hour before bed and doing reality checks frequently throughout the day.
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>>2313
There is a supplement that you can take that may help. I cannot remember off the top of head, but when I get home I will go through some stuff.
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>>2314
tell me when you do!
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>>2315
So, the supplement I remember reading about was, I believe, Galantamine. Here is one product that has it and is marketed for lucid dreaming. I don't think the product alone will cause a lucid dream, but in combination with what you are already doing, it might be the final cause that breaks the dam and your first lucid dream. I have never taken it myself, as I have some degree of sleep paralysis off and on since I was a kid, so becoming lucid in my dreams seemed a bit easier for me. If you haven't already started keeping a dream diary and recording as many of your dreams as possible, I would suggest starting. Anything you can do to make yourself more aware of your dreams is always good. The link below is for a 2018 study on the effects of Galantamine on lucid dreaming.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6082533/
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>>2315
Forgot the pic for the product. There might be better Galantamine sources out there, this is just the first I came across. I hope this is helpful
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i've recently had a major breakthrough, but not a lucid dream yet.
 i was buying melatonin on some shitty pharmacy store for lucid dreaming, in my dream. and after some dream nonsense later on i noticed it was 13:00, but it was night outside. but i woke up shortly after as this occurred shortly before my alarm went off.
doing an anchor by holding my thumb and index finger together has had a noticeable effect, and i will be doing it along side all my other things.
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>>2317
This seems interesting, I'll keep an eye out for it.
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>>2208 (OP) 
Be careful what you wish for

I had a dream last night where i was somehow hugging a giraffe through a fence, it was very comfy until suddenly hyena came and attacked it in the neck and sucked its blood slurping it out of its neck. Another dream was a diahrea attack and i shit myself publicly, literally couldn't stop shitting all in the same night.
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can i hang out with my waifu in a lucid dream?
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>>2320
>Another dream was a diahrea attack and i shit myself publicly, literally couldn't stop shitting all in the same night.
this is (You)?
>>2318
Sounds like you are getting really close. Keep it up you are almost there ☺️
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Once again, very close to a lucid dream!
I took a short nap in the day having barely slept last night
after a brief dream, i was awake once more, but then i noticed i was becoming increasingly paralyzed. this was proof that i was about to enter sleep paralysis, and thus a chance to enter a lucid dream!
but unfortunately the paralysis faded and i woke up properly.
Considering this incident with yesterday, I think I'm very close towards having a lucid dream!
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>>2330
>cant lucid dream
consider suicide retard
>>2330
awesome!
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Yet another very close call, but no lucid dream just Yet.

After having woken up outside in my bed on a cold snowy night, i went back to my home with all my things and turned on my computer
I noticed once again the time was 13:00 while it was still night outside, and winter while it was may, and begun to ponder why that might be the case.
but before i could figure it out, the alarm off and woke me up. i then fell back asleep and into a normal dream again.

I will have to adjust my alarm to go off a hour later. I'm beginning to notice things more clearly.
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>>2334
How is the dreaming going?
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>>2335
not too good
I find myself having trouble falling asleep during the wbtb method, even after taking enough melatonin to kill a horse. 
as i am writing this i have once again failed to fall back to sleep after two hours.
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>>2336
I'm sorry to hear that anon, hopefully you'll figure it out eventually.
In the meanwhile, I really want to know what's up with that pic.
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>>2338
After looking at it for a while, I'd guess that's a tengu followed by three awoos.
>>2338
that's clearly a negro running from the KKK
Sometimes I will do everything short of falling asleep (turn the light off, lie down, throw some blankets over me, shut my eyes) and start dreaming while awake, usually hallucinating that some figure I can't identify is watching me from a short distance, typically peeking around my door frame, before it promptly runs away. Guess that's more like the polar opposite of lucid dreaming. Sleep paralysis maybe? Though, like I said, I'm awake or not fully asleep at the very least. The times I have successfully initiated lucid dreaming were preceded by these episodes. Unfortunately, I almost always jumpscared myself awake when I achieved it. Unlike coming back to reality after noticing I'm being watched during sleep paralysis, I usually fixate on a door or window and something pops out from behind it and lunges at me shortly after.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've just had a lucid dream!

I was wandering a grocery store looking for some cold drinks
but then i noticed they were not in Fridges, but piled up in Shopping Baskets under the shelves...
so i looked down into my hands to see if i was dreaming, and then i realized my hands were off and I WAS DREAMING!
I Believe had a lucid Dream!
Looking down at my hands helped clarify that i was in a dream.
I tried to Fly or do something special, but it didn't work.
i did i managed to turn one of the guys i was with into a cheap and looking Dragon before turning him back into a human.
However, The Dream quickly begin to fade as my consciousness was drifting, I tried looking at my hands again but it was too late.
I then Had a false awakening where i tried getting on ZZZchan to write of my experience

But now that I've woken up, The Lucid dream feels very groggy and foggy, as if I was just Dreaming that i had a lucid dream.
Someone Please Correct me if This was Indeed a Lucid Dream.
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>>2342
Did the lucid dream cause you to start capitalizing random words?
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>>2343
No, I was mostly focused on my intents and reality checking.
I even breathed through my nose while holding it.

If you're referring to the post, It was haste-fully written and poorly corrected.
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I had to take a short break from attempting a lucid dream due to being busy last week, but i got another Close one, but not as close as my first "successful" lucid dream.
rather, i found one particular part very vivid, and had some semblance of control, but i wasn't fully lucid. at least i don't believe i was.

 It was when i suddenly stopped walking down a familiar road, and wandered into an empty room, i then started imagining Doorways appearing before me, Doorways which I painted with my mind.
but i believe whatever lucidity i had was quickly lost following the next part of my dream.
and i doubt i was fully lucid, because painting doorways or making portals was not in my intentions for the moment.
I believe I'm improving my control and awareness.
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SUCCESS! LUCID DREAM ATTAINED
I did it. I can now Confirm I've had a lucid dream!
Now to start, I got insomnia this night after waking, and decided i would take a nap later on. 
When i fell asleep and begun to dream, I dreamed of some bizarre road trip.
I was then in my childhood home when it was completely covered in snow, more specifically Dunes of snow partially burying the place.
I noticed it was supposed to be summer, and i wasn't supposed to be there, and so i did a reality Check, and then I noticed I was in a dream.
The First thing I did was attempt to fly, which i didn't quite get.
Then I just wandered around the home, which didn't seem unusual, and decided i would go outside.
I found a military backpack sitting on the floor and tried to find some warm clothes, I've even tried to will clothes in there, but found nothing inside.
ultimately I chose to go outside without anything, Since this was a Lucid Dream after all, not a very vivid one.
Around me were massive snow dunes completely encasing my old home and the neighborhood, it was really bizarre, like a terrible snowstorm just swallowed up the land.
I then attempted to Fly, but didn't get high and fell into the snow, which was surprisingly deep.
I begun to wonder if anyone else was here, Given i was completely alone. 
and suddenly not too far off from where i was sitting, I Spotted Nazrin, or at least a poor dream interpretation of Nazrin laying on the ground, lifeless like a doll with white icing covering her under skirt and legs.
coming near her, I tasted the white stuff and it was indeed Icing, or tasted like it, looked like it too.
however, the sight of her laying there with her underskirt covered in white stuff reminded me of something more perverse, and the sight of her pantsu made me incredibly aroused.
Though I managed to Contain these Urges, because i wanted to do other things as part of my intentions, mainly practice and experiment with my newfound lucidity.
I did several more reality checks to confirm i was in a dream, but I was losing control and the dream became a bit murky despite my best efforts to retain lucidity. 
So before I woke up I decided I would go to space, and Then Tried to Imagine space and all its stars.
I managed to Get "Space" to appear in the sky, but it looked more like a Video Game, With miniature Planets Dotting the sky and a purple tinted space skybox covering it all
I then tried again to fly and managed to succeed, but i wasn't very fast. an so I begun to gradually ascend across the many small planets.
But because i was starting to lose control, the planets gradually begun to appear less rendered and warped as i struggled to retain lucidity.
and then i transitioned into my bed like it was all just a vision.
I can Confirm Now, that I've had a successful Lucid Dream!
or a lucid nap to be precise.

I Would Like to thank everyone for their advice which has helped me attain my first proper lucid dream.
and given how vivid it was compared to my previous success, It will only get better from here.
I would love for someone to suggest me to do something in my lucid dreams, mainly so i can add them to my bucket list of things to do and practice.

Here's a Crude Paint drawing of what I witnessed, I made this to help Retain memory and awareness of my dreams.
I'll Post my Methods and how I managed to Achieve it later on, i have things to do.
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Time for me to Explain what I've done to achieve my lucid dream. 
For me, MILD (Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams) has been the one that's granted me success. 
and I'll explain to you the techniques that have granted me success.

First I do Reality Checks semi-frequently throughout the day, Mainly when something unusual happens or odd appears. 
you should try keeping it up as a habit.
here's the reality checks that i do
>count the Fingers on my hand
>then try to press a finger through my palm
>if these don't work I try to breathe through my closed mouth or hold my nose and try to breathe through it
Second and arguably the most important step, have a Dream Journal Prepared. It can either be a book or on a .txt file on a computer.
The Journal is to Try and Memorize your Dreams in order to create awareness and pattern noticing when dreaming. Awareness is key to success, as you won't get a lucid dream unless you've conditioned to the signs that you're dreaming.
there's not much to say, but keep aware of things that might seem off, and if something is off be sure to do a reality Check.
>in the moment i am writing this, its early summer, but in my dreams it was winter or cold outside.
>It was typically night time, but the time on the clock displayed a time when it wouldn't be dark outside.
>I noticed I'm in a Location i am not familiar with, or a location i have not been at for a long time.
Third the WBTB Method.
I Set my Alarm to wake me 4 hours after bed, and ensure all the rooms are dark and there are no distractions that might disrupt me later.
When I go to bed, I Remind myself in my mind as i drift asleep "I will attempt a lucid dream"
After my Alarm wakes me, I take 3-5mg Melatonin and try to keep myself up for 5-10 minutes in order to wake my mind partially before going back to bed
>Avoid Lights or anything that could hamper your sleep cycle
>Keep yourself from waking fully or you might give yourself insomnia
>avoid getting out of bed if its not necessary
Fourth as i fall back asleep I focus on an Anchor, an Anchor is something you focus on as you drift asleep. This can be used for WILD (Wake-Initiated Lucid Dreaming) or to further Improve your awareness as you sleep.
they can be anything, from holding a hand sign to a subtle sound in your room.
The Anchor that has been most comfortable for me was putting my index finger on top of my thumb while pressing my middle finger onto the thumb's print.
Don't be too focused on the anchor, try to be focused enough to keep aware of it while you drift into sleep
>Don't Try to remain completely still, move to whatever sleeping position is currently comfortable at the moment as you would in normal sleep
>try not to focus or think too much, keep yourself in a clear mind as you drift into REM sleep
>don't forget to remind yourself of your intentions
Fifth
Now one of two things will happen, You will either fall asleep like normal or Begin to feel paralyzed throughout your body.
If the latter has occurred, that means you've entered sleep paralysis!
But Don't be worried, yet. this is a prime opportunity to enter into a lucid dream. 
<although I've had no success with that just yet
but here is how i Usually attempt it if I do enter sleep paralysis.
While in Sleep Paralysis, I Try and Imagine myself In a dream, I Either make up a dream scene or use one that I remember. I Focus on the Dream in my mind, and hope that I enter straight into it.
I tend to feel great discomfort throughout my body, but as long as i keep your eyes closed and try not to move, I'm usually fine. 
but the discomfort usually gets the better of me, so i snap out of sleep paralysis as i move to a more comfortable position.
>If all goes Well, You're In a lucid Dream.
>If all goes not so well, You've woken out of sleep paralysis
>If all goes wrong, you're stuck in sleep paralysis
Sixth
If you simply fell asleep, and didn't become aware that you were dreaming, Don't feel Discouraged, Its time for the most crucial part, writing down your Dream.
try and Memorize the Dream, The Locations, The Encounters, Maybe Draw a blueprint or scene of some location you remember. Do so just after you wake up if possible.
The whole point of Journaling your dream is to improve your dream awareness and memory, which will help your dreams to become more clear and your mind more conscious while dreaming.
Each Failed attempt is a learning opportunity, Practice is Key.
It has taken me roughly 54 Days and several close calls to achieve my first proper lucid dream. and my first close call was on my very first attempt! but you are not likely to get a lucid dream fist attempt, at least not one you are hoping.
>Memorizing your dreams is the most crucial step to achieving a lucid dream
>keep up with it and you'll eventually get one
>don't be discouraged if it takes longer than you've hoped, Keep trying and you'll get one eventually

That's It for now, I hope you find success through my methods.
I'll keep practicing and hope to attain better control and lucidity, Until Then.
>>2345
>needing to attempt to lucid dream
its beyond over for you anon
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>>2348
but he got one in the end.
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Had another Lucid Dream, wasn't expecting one so soon.
First two parts weren't lucid, but the last one is.

The first part was me and an old friend celebrating the destruction of Israel after it becomes a smoldering crater.

Then i woke up and initiated the WBTB method

The 2nd part was me playing some form of hotline miami clone, then my character grabbed a plane and left.
which then lead to some MMOrpg mod page that was for some reason compromised? i just remember being mad.

THE PART WHERE I BECAME LUCID
I was Gordon Freeman with Alyx in a bunker, complete with an HEV suit, taking a piss in a toilet.
After getting out of the toilet, i thought to myself "was this a dream?" and looked down at my hands.
as was typical, they were off, six fingers in one, and four on another.
I Became Lucid.
I wasn't really expecting to become lucid that day, so i didn't have much in plan beyond exploring and practicing my control
the first thing i did was fly out into gm_bigcity. it was a bit surreal, like i was physically present in a video game.
i was getting much more accustomed to flying compared to my previous lucid dream. i was much faster, and it required far less mental effort.
i did a few spins to try and ground myself into the dream, and it sort of worked for the time being.
then i began to fly around a bit, before trying to fly somewhere else.
Then i was in minecraft, which i wasn't so keen in being, so i flew high and far and tried imagining a great city before me.
and off into the foggy horizon a city began to form. first a few buildings, then more.
i landed on top of one of the skyscrapers, and thought of attempting the space thing again, but decided against it.
afterwards I decided I would interact with someone.
yet it seemed off when i summoned a "character", as i was then looking at a computer screen of one? and i was in third person?
then i was starting to lose consciousness, i tried to look down at my hands and ground myself in the dream.
but it was futile, and i drifted back into unconscious sleep.

I had some problems with retaining lucidity, but that was mainly due to me associating it all with some video game.
But Now that i have a slightly better grasp at controlling my dreams, i should attempt to interact with some dream characters, or explore on foot rather than flying everywhere at high speeds, it should help me retain lucidity and to explore the finer details of my newfound environments.

Regardless, i was improving my control.
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another lucid dream later, i have gained some insight in how it works, i can control my dreams more thoroughly and explore them throughout. and I'm now able to replicate it in my mind while i drift into sleep, which will help with more consistent results.
while I try to fall asleep, I can accurately imagine myself becoming lucid. i can imagine sensation, taste, smell, and the feeling of surfaces quite vividly. and although a bit hard to focus, i can map out entire landscapes and myself wandering through them, feeling the earth beneath and the breeze of the wind, as if my conscience in my head was a second body autonomous to the one resting in bed. 
its almost a bit worrying with how vivid they've become, i can feel it on my body's hands as i open and close them in my mind.

I'm pleased to see such great results as of recent, all the hard work has really paid off. 
i might try and intentionally put myself into a lucid nightmare or experience sleep paralysis, I'm aware of the risks, but also deeply curious as to what i might feel.
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I'm proud to say I've had two lucid dreams this week. 
but a new problem has arisen, when i interact with a character, i tend to suddenly wake out of the dream.
the one thing that has woken me up these past three lucid dreams was through the summoning or interaction of characters.
this has been a reoccurring issue that i must fix. I'll try stabilizing my dream beforehand through spinning and rubbing my hands together. if you have any advice, please do share.
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Had another lucid dream, will document my experiments as usual.

i was in some sort of doom level, and noticed i was in a dream right away.
i did a reality check, but my hands seemed fine. until i looked closer and saw that one of the middle finger was invisible.
so i begun throwing invisible middle fingers for fun, until i decided to leave this place.
wandering around the upper balcony of the level, i ended up in the backrooms? and decided to feel around.
rubbing my hands together, they felt as my hands usually did. touching some wood railing felt like wood, the drywall felt like drywall, etc.
I then came across some mirror room, though mirrors are a thing to avoid in lucid dreams, i decided to take a peek. 
and after close examination, i realized i looked like agent smith from the matrix.
looking too close made the whole world appear as his "mesh", but looking out made things relatively normal again, except for agent smith now standing there.
he was completely stiff and unresponsive like a statue, so i decided to feel his hands, and sure enough, they felt like hands. course and rough in texture.
realizing my dream probably wont last given current trends, i decided to feel something I've never really "felt" before, and decided to grab some breasts as a final test.
so i imagined a woman, and two came by from a corner. i asked her to hold still for a moment, which she did reluctantly.
then i ran in for the catch, and managed to Pin her on a corner. i slid my hand down into her shirt and begun grabbing her chest.
they felt like bags of sand. jokes aside, they felt what I'd imagine breasts would feel like, soft but a bit firm, not easy to describe exactly. and her shirt felt like a shirt, fabric and what not.
so i continued  groping and fondling them as she stopped thrashing, and got a bit carried away until my dream begun to fade.
then i woke up with a raging hard on. 

perversely Moral ambiguity aside, this was far more immersive than I've anticipated. everything felt so real in a physical sense.
with feeling around off the bucket list, its time for me to figure out prolonging my dream to last more than 3-10 minutes and to not suddenly end when interacting with another character.
>>2362
>piss in a toilet 
>while dreaming
Did you wet the bed? Any time I pee in my dreams I wet the bed.
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>>2367
No, i don't have problems wetting the bed.
but i do think if you get too caught up in a particularly vivid lucid dream you could wet the bed if you put all your efforts in taking a piss as vividly as you can.
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>>2368
And no isolated sleep paralysis either?
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>>2369
I'm uncertain if you can wet yourself during sleep paralysis, unless you have a rather nasty one that wakes you up in a panic, then you probably might wet yourself from shock.
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>>2371
I didn't mean at the same time I meant them as seperate issues that could be possibly caused by lucid dreaming. I myself will pee in my dream and then wet my actual bed, it happens every few years, sometimes more often. I also get isolated sleep paralysis rarely. I get these two things more often than become lucid in my dreams though sadly. I also can get stress induced optical micragins that make me go temperarily legally blind, so maybe some people's brains can't lucid dream because their brians are glitched too much. Whenever I have lucid dreamed I had minimal control and are usually attacked or bothered in some way by any "entity" inside the dream. Also I have nightmares every night. 

Have fun I guess. The longer I dream and the more comfortable I get in the dream the more likely I wet the bed myself though without regard to being lucid. 

Opening doors and going through the same door changes everything. Looking into a mirror is also trippy. Do either of those things happen? Does talking to your "entitiy" you find freak you out and they.... morph into something scary....?
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>>2372
i guess you have some form of neurological problem or trauma that's affecting your sleep to behave weird. i'm not qualified to give any advice on fixing that.
> Opening doors and going through the same door changes everything. Looking into a mirror is also trippy. Do either of those things happen?
the mirror part is true. the scene shifting between doors depends on your memory.
>Does talking to your "entitiy" you find freak you out and they.... morph into something scary....?
the only time an entity morphed was when I intentionally tried to change its shape in my first lucid dream. it looked more retarded than scary. but that's partially due to my inability to remain in the dream when interacting with any character for too long.
I've become dream-aware numerous times in my life, but all it ever does is let me fly around.

From experience while I'm not good at deliberately inducing a lucid dream, having the brain supplied with enough juice during the morning hours or during an afternoon nap helps greatly as it sometimes lets me deliberately drift into sleep by shaping the closed-eyelid imagery until it manifests as a dream environment, though again it's the most direct dream manipulation I've ever been capable of as once the dream is fully manifested it prefers its own ruleset.
Sleep paralysis is a meme if you keep your eyes closed and/or lie on your chest.
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I've come to notice, for the past month I only ever had a lucid dream exactly 10 days apart despite my best efforts throughout the week. i don't think i will manage a lucid dream every day for quite a while, but every 10 days is a good enough deal for me.
I'll switch my sleep schedule accordingly, only doing the WBTB method every 9th-11th day.
time to see if results still remain consistent.
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I had a dream I was in Iran or somewhere like that on vacation with an old religious sect I was once part of. I ended up getting separated from the rest of my group for a bit since they went with some of the people we were visiting. Some fat, middle-aged woman from their family asked if I was hungry and insisted I have some fruit. There were normal fruits, but also a blue one that reminded of a dragonfruit or kiwi mixed with a watermelon. I asked if she was sure it was alright to treat me to so much food and she insisted again. I carved off a palm-sized chunk of the blue fruit and took a bite out of it. It was kind of like that artificial blue raspberry flavor found in some candies and drinks, but overflowing with juices.

As I ate more fruit, a couple of the woman's friends or neighbors (all fat as well) came over with platters of assorted sweets and graciously offered some to me. I was more reluctant this time because I didn't want to be a pig and figured my group would return soon anyway. Sure enough, they came back with the rest of the woman's family. Everything was fine until I turned around and saw the host family's daughter or granddaughter staggering slowly into their home, clothes tattered and covered in gushing wounds from head to toe. I turned back to everyone else and nobody acted like they saw a thing. I noticed a guy glaring at me from outside in the alley when I turned back to her to ask if she was okay. A moment later, he was suddenly bloodied up just like the girl. I looked around the room again and now everyone was bloodied.

Not sure if the plot of dream was supposed to be literal as in that blue fruit was secretly a hallucinogen and I started tripping balls or if it was more metaphorical on how Western relations to Iran are (they show hospitality and they're rewarded with bombings or something). Probably had no meaning at all.
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>>2417
interesting, what would you've done do if you became lucid in that dream?
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>>2418
Probably would've jumpscared myself awake anyway (that's what happened when I saw everyone was wounded). As soon as I'm aware that I'm asleep, I inadvertently look at a door or window and something pops out to spook me.
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>>2412
10th day now, time to see if i get a lucid dream.
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Turns out I was correct!
had a lucid dream exactly 10 days apart just as I predicted. here it is:


I was in a room watching garbage youtube videos, until suddenly I looked outside and realized it was snowing.
I didn't question it, so I went back to watching videos. until a family member came and nagged at me, so I hurled insults back at him
then I went to another room, and began to become certain I was in a dream
so I went to the window and did a reality check, i was obviously dreaming.
I apologized to my family member and flew out the window to what appeared to be a dead Reimu (Common trend of dead 2hus in my dreams)
but it turned out to be two dogs.
So I cleared all the snow and did a few spins on a rooftop, each Spin helped ground me further until it became indistinguishable from reality.
even touching the grass felt just like real life.
so it was time to do what i sought to practice, but I had to fly to a better spot.
I went out on the street and tried to fly, Didn't work.
I tried gain, no luck.
So to see if I was still dreaming I did a reality check, then went to tap the shoulder of some girl
when she asked why i did that, I just said "just kidding" then she giggled and went on her way
eventually I figured out how to fix my little problem by simply doing a flip and inverting gravity
when I reached the spot I wanted to be in, I reverted it back to normal.
but as I prepared to find a suitable place the dream faded, and i woke up.


10 days is a bit too long between dreams, i will try and cut that down to every 5 or 3 days now that i know what works best for me.
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>>2425
So you get god mode in ur dreams and decided to touch grass huh? To literally touch grass? Not to turn candles off and on in your mind and move bobby pins back and forth while trying to convince yourself that this dream world is the real world, slowly, as it becomes more and more a special place to be, but you touched grass and it felt real....isn't that like begging to wake up? So is flying as that's too instense, though without being lucid in my strangest dreams I usually fly.  I'm jus' sayin' to make it more believable moving small objects is what I do though I'm that insane poster from before. And isn't running up and touching women a risky reality check? I used to sit down and as I sat down I would feel myself in my bed squirm slightly and that would wake me up, usually sitting next to a common item such as a chamomile flower patch. To stay asleep I say to myself 'whatever, don't care if awake' but then that leads to using the rest room in your sleep if you keep that up...if too unbelievable I wake up easier is my point if lucid at all but if not lucid strange shit happens to me. I try to move objects when awake to perpetuate my own dreams turning half lucid, a very ironic way to do things, but that's just me, so I do it in my sleep later hopefully accidentally though the more I do it and fail in real life the less power I have in the dream pretty sure due to lowering of a sense of control in life effecting my control in dreams.   
>>2417
>eating in your sleep
I bite my tongue a lot. More fun to wake up to than in my usual restroom break. 
>>2412
>10 days
A week isn't 7 anyway traditionally when it comes to very ancient white civilization. They had no weeks, only used a lunar method of 29.5 days and had dekas of which were ten days, obviously, ergo the moon cycle is dictating your dreams and not an actual work week. Are you neet? Enjoy ur deka.
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>>2426
tell me more on that "dekas" and "moon cycles". i'm curious.
>not mastering lucid dreaming just to touch grass and women
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4th Night now, Tomorrow's the 5th day.
Lets see if i can break this 10 day cycle, or if my lucid dreams are linked to the 10th day of a calendar
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>>2428
nah, no lucid dream. will see if i get one in the 10th again
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What does it mean when most of my dreams have something to do with video games?
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>>2430
It means you weren't given a choice in life so you're mentally stunted to think  in freedom or a cage
>>2430
i suggest avoiding aislop as you might associate dreaming with AI hallucinations, thus making it feel less authentic
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10th day again. 
Lets see if i get another lucid dream at this exact time-frame.
>>2430
It is your subconscious telling you that you are living in a video game, but you are only an NPC. Sorry.
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looks like yet again i got a lucid dream at my 10th day, before wbtb more notably. but that was probably because i took a nap later this day.

not a very good lucid dream, couldn't do what i wanted to practice since things became chaotic. 
but regardless it was a successful lucid dream at the 10th.
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Lucky me!
I took a nap because i slept bad, and had a Second lucid Dream!
I'm quite ecstatic, although i didn't succeed in my initial goal the way i hoped, i did have some fun and practiced a bit bringing me closer to success in my original ambitions.

Maybe this 10 day rule has something to do with it, or perhaps its the moon phase?
whatever it is, I can attempt lucid dreams at every 10th with guaranteed and perhaps multiple successes. but I'm not really happy with this, and would rather decrease it to every 5 days at least.
Yo how do i summon a loli?
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Got a lucid dream 5 days in without expecting one.
i didnt do much in it, but its great to see i might break this 10 day cycle
>>2439
have you tried asking politely?
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>>2427
>>2428
I figure women get peroids every month. There used to be 10 months a year. 10 days. Humans like the number 10. The number 3 also has to do with circles and the moon is one. 3.14 etc. 10ish days. 30ish days. Roundish moon. I bet we used to have damaged kidneys and died after 10 days of no water whereas now it's 3 days, used to be considered 7 when I was in hs though. Damaged kidneys would retain water and we used to have lead pipes in ancient times. Also the moon is out when you sleep obviously and microscopic life is effected by it's gravity so why not your brain cells to? Human brains hate irrational numbers like pi and why is pi from the  16th letter in greek, or rather, why is 16 something to mean   perimeter? Never mind. People that stare at the moon are looneys. Only reason we liked 12 or 24 for days is due tot hat zodiac and the planets they could see in regards to them via the telescopes. They thought it dicated personalities.... it's whatever though. 12 has nothing to do with 10 or 3 or 30 until you remembet the planets were all round and merely they obsesed over 12 of them, and all those stars of course. I bet we segregated humans by compatible zodiac, much different than today's identitiy crsises.
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*typos
>>2439
2 dimensional candy?
>>2444
interesting read. i'm sure this might answer the 10 day interval.
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>>2446
Ten days is a week and then you get to party, you get paid, you get to live the dream. Our minds might expect something fun to happen. Evolutionary biology via the moon's gravity and or just our being so mathematical and cultural being part of us from the ancient times, or both. Idk. As people don't like having sex on their peroid I wonder if they also thought it took 10 months to have a baby, assuming you are using the cal method you end up taking an extra month often after getting married and then just not stopping after you start before the peroid....

365/12= approx 30
(365/10) then divide 12 = approx 3

I'm jus' sayin'. Humans like 10, 3, and 30. 100/3 is 3.33etc. 3 is a holy number. 10 ((( commandments ))). etc 

but idk
...also they might have hit puberty at 12 and started the periods...
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no lucid dream this 10th, though i dreamed of trying to look up on how to lucid dream, probably will get one tomorrow or when i take a nap, or if my biological clock has been screwed since i got one at the 5th and it will be 5 days from now.
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>>2450
<zzz.....how do I lucid dream.....zzz
>later
<DAMNIT
lol meta
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so you know, can i visit the island and all that shit in my dream? but replace everyone with 2d lolis and nee-sans?
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>10 days, lunar cycles, etc.
The only thing I've noticed over the years is that I tend to have spontaneous peak experiences during the time around a full moon or a new moon. I never bothered to keep such a meticulous dream journal looking for daily patterns beyond that.

Maybe worth mentioning. I have an easier time inducing these experiences when I'm sleeping underground. Once upon a time I resided in a deep sub-basement of a concrete building and with very little or no meditation it was game on. It was almost more than I could handle at the time. Go to bed and it's dreams within dreams within dreams. Might wake up covered in sweat and feeling exhausted. Take a brief nap to recover later on and it would be more of the same, sometimes feeling as if hours had gone by in the space of 30 minutes, similar to the time distortion experiences reported by those who take DMT. For periods of time this would be a near daily experience.
I'm not sure if the ease of doing this underground had to do with the simple fact that I was living in the equivalent of a bomb shelter with no natural light and no sound whatsoever able to penetrate from the outside or maybe that I would have been shielded from EMF emissions down there. The reason I entertain that idea is I've also lived in a high rise building with quality noise canceling drywall where I could sleep in a quiet darkened room, but was surrounded by various EMF emissions, and in that case I could induce the experience, but it would usually require what I would consider to be a necessary period of meditation unlike when I was living underground. The underground factor was also interesting in that there are those ancient stone structures with curious subterranean chambers beneath. Maybe they could have been used for the purpose of easing the induction of lucid dreaming or out of body experiences? I'd entertain that possibility.
And to add a little bit more speculation. Some time after I lived in the basement bunker location I found out that there was an underground creek that ran either underneath or adjacent to that property. The building was such that there were also numerous water pipes directly above the ceiling. Why should that matter? I have no idea really, but when I recounted the experiences had there to someone who I knew to be adept at lucid dreaming, but who's overall opinions I took with a grain of salt because they were a bit woo-woo "new age" for my taste, they were very much convinced that proximity to running water had some relation to what might be labeled as paranormal experiences in general. I have no firm conclusions in regard to that, but I do assign a high probability of truth to the idea that sleeping underground can ease the induction of lucid dreaming or out of body experiences.
>>2461
Yes, you can live out your little Epstein roleplay with anime lolis once you're good at it.
I had a super short dream because it was 2spooky4me. I was in a late 1800s/early 1900s boiler room-type area. It was a couple levels tall, but overall had a low ceiling. I was on the upper level with around a dozen other people. There was a metal railing to keep us from falling into the darkened lower level, which sort of looked like it connected to the sewers. The upper level was moderately lit by several lightbulbs positioned along the brick walls. The fucked up part was that there were about 20 female corpses, ranging from ages 0 to 40, all wearing white nightgowns and dangling from nooses tied around plumbing/heating pipes running along the ceiling. Each one's face was fully destroyed, no features visible through all the blood. The ceiling was low enough that I would have had to push a corpse out of the way to navigate through the upper level. A couple corpses dangled within five feet of me on either side. Seeing the other people begin to retrieve the corpses, starting with an infant, I woke up in fear that whatever murdered all those females was about to kill the rest of us. The dream length felt about 5-10 seconds long. Couldn't get back to sleep after that.
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>>2481
Dayum son
Couple more dreams:
>massive buddhist statue with demons chaining naked women up and down it
>one demon chains a 600 pound hispanic woman to a stone sphere on the statue's tongue
>she's also crushing a slim blonde woman beneath her weight
>statue gives way to reveal a tall steel tower of spikes and buzzsaws with the naked women still chained to it
>spikes start growing, claws start crushing, buzzsaws start buzzing and all the women are torn to ribbons and impaled
>the end
Another one:
>taking care of my son or baby brother, not sure which
>trying to entertain him and also keep him from being too hyper
>mostly playing toys with him or chasing him around the house
>he runs outside because he wants to grab his favorite basket
>outside looks like a lower middle class neighborhood someplace around Minneapolis
>he grabs his basket and i try to help him stay in the small yard without stumbling into the street
>yellow high end sports car comes peeling around the corner and purposefully banks into the yard toward us
>wake up before impact
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>>2496
>someplace around Minneapolis
surprised a dindu didn't show up to shoot you
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