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>>292079 (OP) 

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>>292079 (OP) 
>the option will likely not be available for users outside of Japan
From what I can tell DLsite have created their own bank, that would only work for Japanese citizens.
How much harder would it be to establish a new payment processor all together, like Visa or Mastercard? From what I can tell hardly any online services consider any services that are the former two, like AmEx or Discover.

how is isolationism is good thing? you realize that russian also has MIR card? its own locked down pozzed processor amidst all the sanctions?

>>292093
The alternative is nothing at all or a watered down product.

RIP everyone related to DLsite, if only we knew they were so depressed and suicidal that they would end up shooting themselves in the back of the head 20 times.

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>>292079 (OP) 
Good to see Japanese companies fighting back. I wish them success.

>>292093
Is a step on the right direction, kike.

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>>292087
hnmmmmmmmmmm

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>>292079 (OP) 
As others have said elsewhere, this is a nice step in the right direction, but it doesn't resolve their main issue, which is no reliable method of facilitating east-west transactions. VISA/Mastercard still have a monopoly on that and thus the flow of western revenue, and so the censorship and regionblocking of "problematic" tags and content for gaijins will likely remain in place for the foreseeable future. 

You may notice that most of these payment options work for most or all of Asia, but not the west. I suspect the problem with setting up an alternate east-west transaction line is not merely VISA/Mastercard, but the SWIFT banking system in general refusing to play ball with potential competitors. SWIFT has long been used by the USGOV and its allies as a form of geopolitical power, extending and denying services as it suits them, and we've already seen that they're freaked out by things like Brazil's Pix system which could threaten to unseat their control of global finance.

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>>292112
Global finance is a spook outside of crypto, plus it's hard to believe Nips will suddenly stop making annie may when ((( Payment Processors ))) move in to wholly exclude Japanese media from ((( International Finance ))).
Honestly a major anti-globalist downsizing would do the industry some good, and I doubt Dup would personally intervene this time given the US has more important things to worry about.

>>292079 (OP) 
This is a good thing, but America still needs these "payment processor" to just process the payment and mind their fucking business.
This "they are a private company they can do whatever they want" shit went too far for way too long.
It's time to start regulate this shit.

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>>292112
>You may notice that most of these payment options work for most or all of Asia, but not the west
Quite honestly, I don't consider that a negative, considering how blatant the West has been in its intentions to pervert Japanese pop culture to fit Western values like raping women and children for real and stealing from them on TV while they're at it. If they've pushed so hard that Japan sees the flames, kicks them out of production and contracts inwards I consider that a success. That's like complaining when Japan is kicking all of Kishida's crimigrants.
One way to remedy this in the way you envision is to just be a louder voice and crowd out the sociopaths pushing for financial control, but where will that land you? One of the biggest voices online in pushing back is a freaking Nick Fuentes fanboy. Think about that.
Understand that for the forces behind Visa and Mastercard, their endgame is Japan bending the knee because of duh monee like with RGG and Hideo Kojima, and that they care as much about the preservation of Japanese culture and identity as they view racism as evil when they're left to their own devices.

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>>292112
You can't just snap your fingers and compete with global money processing monopolies. You have to establish things that work first and then slowly expand and make connections and hope you don't get suicided before or after you succeed.

This is something that bothers me in general. People think you can't do anything because it's "too hard to compete", as if the people you're trying to compete with started out as the globalist monopolies they are now. For example: "you can't make an operating system because you need 50 trillion different hardware drivers, it's just way too hard!". That's a completely faulty premise, no operating system in the world has ever done that. As long as you make a good OS, you can just expand hardware support over time. It's like how Steam OS is primarily designed to work on the Steam Deck, and how GrapheneOS is designed to work on Google Pixel phones, both are already popular despite only working on highly specific devices.

The current monopolies are so thoroughly rotted that they're basically leaving the door wide open for competition, they're making the experience of using their products so painful that people are willing to jump around more and more hoops and pay a bigger price and make more compromises to get away from them.

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>>292102
>balkanization of internet is good thing

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>>292149
>balkanization of internet is good thing
It is.

>>292148
>google pixel and steam deck
<using examples of devices controlled by monopolists in their fields as an example of OSes "succeeding"
Great idea, beat the monopolies by giving them more money and control, I can't see anything wrong with this.

>>292151
this pictures makes no sense in this context. balkanization of internet is the bottom graph, but copied for each country using their own "national alternative"
how is this a good thing?

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>>292112
>no reliable method of facilitating east-west transactions
Is there some reason why old fashioned checks or money orders couldn't be used to circumvent payment processor censorship?
Japs might even embrace a business model where digital transactions are for domestic only at one price and then they could gouge the gaijin with handling fees for alternative payment options via snail mail.

>>292289
>sending a check overseas
Wew

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>>292289
Considering that we are speaking about Japan here, you might be onto something.

>>292296
>Considering that we are speaking about Japan here
kek. They still do COD (cash on delivery) domestically. Is that's even a thing in the US anymore?

>>292303
Cash on delivery's pretty much a thing in most of Yuroland still, and that's as gay a place as it gets. Hopefully burgers got a spine as well?
>(cash on delivery)
Of course, don't want to mistake it with the other kind of COD.

>>292303
>COD
My shithole country still does it, and thank God for that.

>>292304
Cash on delivery died out in the US because with 4 to 6 weeks delivery on the slow boat from chinkistan, having to pay return shipping because the customer talked herself (COD has been associated with women making impulse buys from TV for decades) out of it sucks massively. Not so much in third world shitholes where nobody has enough money to put in a bank, or in Europe and Japan where the warehouse might be 100 miles away from the customer.

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"No interference in creative works." Japanese government proposes new policy for anime and game expansion in the West
https://archive.fo/oxJU8
>This October, the Japanese Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry (METI) held its 8th Entertainment and Creative Industrial Policy Seminar, during which it proposed five key principles of its new policy guidelines for the Japanese content industry, including video games, anime, manga, film and music. As reported by Otaku Soken, the new guidelines have been announced as part of the strategy to achieve the government’s goal of expanding the overseas market size for domestic content to 20 trillion yen by 2033. This comes only a month after the Japan Business Federation (Keidanren) issued an “urgent message” calling on the government to provide immediate large-scale and long-term support for the country’s content industry.
>The “Five key principles of the Entertainment and Creative Industries Policy” are listed as follows:
<Large-scale, long-term strategic support
<Support efforts to spread Japan-made content to the world
<No interference in the content of creative works
<Provide direct support
<Prioritize those willing to take a challenge
>In light of recent events – especially aggressive content restrictions and global pressure from payment processing firms – the third principle of the policy has been attracting attention in particular. As explained by METI, the government’s goal is to invest in IPs, human resources, and digital technologies, as well as support international distribution networks and overseas investments into building fandoms. Consequently, the third principle was suggested to reassure creators that their freedom of expression will be protected, and that “government backing” does not imply that the content of their works will be meddled with in any way.
This could be a complete nothingburger, but it's definitely a huge shift from when the JP government just stood silent as all the censorship and interference from foreign interests was happening. It doesn't necessarily address the bending of knees from cucked private creators, but clause four also seems to directly target lolcowlulzation.

>>294792
Sounds like a nothingburger to me, I don't think their government has ever been in the business of westernizing their media. This is effectively just saying that they won't start doing it.

>>294792
>>294793
Pretty much. That non-interference seems to refer to government meddling, not corporate action. As far as anyone's concerned creating media is a business, so there are many legal loopholes if this ever becomes law. The most this represents is a change of attitude from nips towards the West in general, hopefully of defiance.

i may be retarded, but why do they not use the crypto meme?
surely there's a suitable stablecoin

>>294927
Same reason why people don't use Linux.

>>294930
They realize Linux is all speculative bullshit?  No... that's definitely not why people don't use Linux.

>>294930
Because they're retarded?
Checks out.

>>294931
Because it's too complicated. The people who promote these things are completely detached from what normal people consider acceptable and intuitive. If you want to normalize crypto usage then you need to make it as easy as creating an account and clicking "transfer" (plus whatever bank authorization requires). But I'm sure you'll try to claim that this is how it already works while being completely blind to why it isn't.

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>>294792
I said this on 4/v/, but unless they come down on Sony and Nintendo for censoring and banning Japanese games, this won't really amount to much. Platform access is arguably the single biggest bottleneck for creative expression and anything that doesn't address it is pointless. The Japanese NEED to start making noise about how platforms are deliberately sabotaging non-globalized Japanese games. I don't know if they can do anything about Valve/Steam or Microsoft/Xbox, but at the very least, Sony and Nintendo are under their direct jurisdiction and it's high time they got a foot up their asses for everything they've done to ruin Japanese gaming with their policies. We have got to let go of the mindset that these massive corporations should be allowed to get away with dictating such terms to their markets by withholding their platforms just because they're "private". You can hardly sell a game nowadays without them, that puts them in a similar position to VISA/Mastercard and you'll find few who disagree that the card companies shouldn't get fucked for their blatant abuses of power.

>>294984
I doubt there's much that can be done about Sony and Nintendo because of CERO's existence. It's not really very government regulated afaik.

>>294984
>We have got to let go of the mindset that these massive corporations should be allowed to get away with dictating such terms to their markets by withholding their platforms just because they're "private".
I agree, being a private company doesn't give them the power to infringe on people's freedom of expression, and it's time these pieces of shit are held accountable for trying that shit.

>>294984
>>294986
Where and how do you draw the line without getting into "bake my gay wedding cake bigot" territory? It's not like sony or nintendo have a monopoly on videogame sales. You can release it uncensored on a different platform and gamers can buy it uncensored on a different platform.

>>292079 (OP) 
Hilariously ironic that when the porn jews have sold every kind of filth "hardcore pornography" including literal illegal content for 50 years but the moment some japanese make some lewd game its another holocaust and they need to be banned from recieving paymebt because no cartoon secks goy

I guess that the porn jews are NOT DOING WELL is the reason for this

And warning to card cucks, they will come for you soon too no doubt. Use cash or be aa slave supporting these evil jwo companies

>>294993
There are thousands of bakeries that will bake your gay cake if the mom and pop Christian bakery won't. There are only four viable storefronts for video game distribution and if your game can't get on any of those it basically can't sell. This has been the status quo for two decades now ever since the major players in the industry became set. Anyone can tell you that no major competitor to Sony or Nintendo in the console platform space is likely to ever come at this point. Ditto with Valve and Steam.

>>292093
How is sanctioning shit a good thing? You realize that Mastercard and Visa are breeding its own competition by doing this?

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>>294996
Most traditionally Jewish sectors of the ecnomy aren't doing well. 

> Hollywood McFucking killed itself so hard, that Laemmle almost returned to life
> Nobody besides boomers reads paper media anymore. 
> Nobody besides boomers watches TV

And porn itself has become irrelevant. It has been replaced what is basically online prostitution. I argue it started to become irrelevant as soon as you could get it for free from the Internet.

t.some who rarely paid for porn

>>294986
I think there has been a precedence case. Name of the case escapes me, but the Supreme Court ruled, that you can't yeet people off your platform if yours is effectively a monopoly. 

>>294998
> Anyone can tell you that no major competitor to Sony or Nintendo in the console platform space is likely to ever come at this point. Ditto with Valve and Steam.

There is GoG. Guess who still sells most hentai games that got thrown off Steam. The problem is, there should be more than GoG and Steam.

>>294927
Because they are highly speculative. Can you guess which crypto currency will be still around in like 10 years?

They could introduce some kind of Pachinko system. A idea that was floated around when the censorship shit was at its worst. This has never tried however.

>>294998
>Ditto with Valve and Steam.
Don't forget that Epic, Amazon, and even fucking M$ hae failed to dethrone Steam's dominance. The ONLY store that comes even close in terms of "size" is GOG.

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>>295087
itch.io is probably much bigger than GOG, it's more commonly seen as a platform for free games, but there's paid ones too.

>>295088
You won't believe how popular itch is among Western hentai game devs. But it doesn't have anything major on it. Except this math teacher meme horror game.

>>295088
Itch.io already cucked out and delisted the lewd games once before though.

>>295086
>rarely pay for porn
>rarely
nigger you what

>>295091
That was because of credit card companies, not because of them "cucking out".

>>295101
Maybe you should read the OP

>>295102
This is about platforms being shit and cucking to western and/or jewish interests, not about payment providers holding a gun to your head.

>>295086
Kikes didn't use Hollywood and porn to make money, they used them to brainwash White people. This board is extremely unintelligent despite looking down on "cuckchan."

>>295104
>And porn itself has become irrelevant. It has been replaced what is basically online prostitution. I argue it started to become irrelevant as soon as you could get it for free from the Internet.

>t.some who rarely paid for porn
Which worked swimmingly on you, I forgot to add.

>>295104
>This board is extremely unintelligent despite looking down on "cuckchan."
Agreed.  Unfortunately, you're part of the problem.

>>295110
I come here trying to commiserate with fellow counter-semites. Problem is, none of you are intelligent enough to even pretend you're above cuckchan. One of you just admitted that he paid for porn, and that he still regularly uses it. Not even hentai, porn. You're pathetic retards.

>>295086
>I think there has been a precedence case. Name of the case escapes me, but the Supreme Court ruled, that you can't yeet people off your platform if yours is effectively a monopoly. 
Supreme Court case Marsh v. Alabama

>>295086
>>295122
The problem is that it doesn't matter one iota if it is illegal. What everything is dependent upon is can you prove it? No one is going to file a lawsuit against the console manufacturers and Valve for refusing to allow a game to be released. And even if they did, you better have enough money saved to pay for your legal expenses for the next decade.

Unless you actually prepare yourself for those circumstances (Which no one does because people are stupid and think someone else is going to save them), you're only "real" option is to stick with the choices you have. Which is either giving these companies what they want or sticking with the lesser known places.

>>295114
>One guy is everyone else.
You set an example.

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>>295114
>Just one
Are you a woman by chance? Send tits and get out.

>>295104
>This board is extremely unintelligent
Why the fuck are you arguing with us retards?

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Well sleepy, I warned you all about this eventuality, especially when they bring their stigmatized culture with them. The question is, what will be done to repel them?

I would have kneeled if the Japanese adopted Monero payment for maximum kvetching.

>>295114
You have to go back.

>>292079 (OP) 
The jews, visa or mastercard didn't push against loli porn on their own accord. 
It was the United States government pushing FOSTA-SESTA to make everyone in the supply chain liable when sex trafficking or child pornography becomes significant enough.
You'll notice that FOSTA-SESTA's timeline neatly coincides with Patreon's and Paypal's draconian crackdown on hentai games.
What everyone is doing isn't out of malice, but because they fear lawsuits. Publicly traded companies especially have special liability clauses that can fuck over the CEO, whose hands are now tied since his responsibility to the company makes avoiding lawsuits the first priority.

The coinciding culture war on problematic sexual themes only exists because bottom feeders are no longer exposed to it (lack of exposure can make anything controversial, whereas constant exposure normalizes the subject) and are subject to the website's terms of services (meaning they can't defend lolicon without fearing getting banned)

>>296405
Then why didn't they just announce so rather than pretending to be moralfags?

>>296411
It's good PR to virtue-signal when it's convenient.

>>296405
>US government
Then explain Trump's executive order pushing back against them doing this shit?

>>296417
You mean the executive order purely intended to stop getting people debanked for being right wing, completely unrelated to anime in any way shape or form?

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>>296412
Not disclosing the real reasons for your behavior and "pretending" to shit on it for culture war-related reasons is bad PR, actually. If they just said their hands were tied, they wouldn't have gotten nearly as much backlash and it would have been redirected to the USGOV.
As things stand, and considering other factors, I think I'm gonna take them at their word that they just hate anime and chuds rather than make excuses for them.

>>296423
> I think I'm gonna take them at their word that they just hate anime and chuds rather than make excuses for them.
This is just toxic women and faggot mindset they hate straight males for simply not offing themselves  while also not being obedient mindless slaves.

>>296418
Are you retarded? It's broad enough to cover any lawful activity and came literally on the heels of visa/mastercard pressuring Steam.

>>296459
>are you retarded
Its the board-variant of TDS, likely contracted from exposure to redditchan.

>>296417
He literally signed FOSTA-SESTA in his first term, retard-chama.
Whatever executive order you are thinking of is not going to affect anything related to sex crimes.

kys

Here’s the tl;dr
>2018: Trump signs FOSTA-SESTA into law himself, big “save the children” moment  
>law says platforms and anyone in the chain can get sued into oblivion if trafficking or CP slips through  
>payment processors (Visa, Mastercard, PayPal, etc.) panic hard, start nuking anything remotely risky to avoid federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison time  
>loli/shota hentai gets caught in the blast radius because “better safe than bankrupt,” even if it’s drawings and technically protected speech in a lot of cases
>fast forward to August 2025: Trump drops the “Guaranteeing Fair Banking For All Americans” EO  
>main goal: stop banks from denying accounts purely over politics, ideology, or vague “reputational risk” bullshit (guns, crypto, conservative orgs, etc.)  
>tells regulators to scrub that language from guidance and make decisions based on actual individualized risk  
>some vanilla adult creators and mild NSFW games did see processors chill out a bit afterward less blanket bans on basic porn
but here’s the catch for the real niche stuff:  
>the EO doesn’t touch FOSTA-SESTA at all, doesn’t repeal any sex crime liability, doesn’t force private card networks to change their own internal brand rules  
>processors still see loli-adjacent content as legitimate legal landmine (obscenity laws, residual FOSTA fear, brand suicide)  
>as of early 2026 adult creators in general are still complaining about debanking, and the extreme end hasn’t budged
net result for lolicons: the EO is a small win for broader NSFW but basically irrelevant for the stuff that got hit hardest.

>>301738
Appreciate the survey, anon. The politics and legalese bullshit is a pain in the ass to make sense of

>>301745
Meant synopsis, I'm not deleting and reposting, suck my whole ass

Literally nothing in FOSTA-SESTA's actual text actually does anything to loli, it was about sex trafficking. Companies and snakes just took advantage of "overcomplying" with nonexistent bullshit so they could censor

>>301750
>it was about sex trafficking
My little anon can't be this gullible.  It was a pretext for internet censorship.  The baddies are using it exactly how it was intended to be used.

>>301764
>an entire law was passed as pretext 
They don't even need pretext fag.

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https://subscribestar.adult/prohibited_content

SubscribeStar just updated their content guidelines to ban the whole swathe of "obscene" content typically targeted by payment processors. Even made sure their definition of "CSAM"/underage content was as broad as possible to cover ANY form of lolicon as well as adding a note saying they will ignore written disclaimers.

>   Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) in any form
    >Any depiction of underage or underage-appearing characters in sexualized circumstances, regardless of artistic style, medium, or whether the content is fictional, illustrated, animated, or digitally rendered
    >Sexualized depictions of characters from films, games, anime, comics, or other media that are canonically underaged, even if such characters are aged-up by a textual 18+ statement, modified, or reinterpreted.
    >Characters portrayed with body proportions, facial features, clothing, or contextual cues commonly associated with minors

    >For moderation purposes, visual appearance takes precedence over written disclaimers.

By now, we can safely Trump's EO didn't do a damn thing, it was nothing but empty words. Japanese sites are going to end up being the only websites that don't have these wide-reaching content restrictions, and even there, they are slowly bending, not too mention how hard it is to get funding as a western artist without VISA/Mastercard.
I think we can bury any hope of there being a legislative solution to this at this point. No one is going to go against the credit card lobby, and no politician, left or right, is going to bat for "obscene" content.

>>303846
In 50 years or less they're gonna start banning everything that is not a corporate advertising, for now they are only against furries and lolicon, which are a minority, but probably soon they start banning shit like guns in media, and far away in the future it won't surprise me that they ban depictions of cool things, like war, mecha or melee weapons and historical depictions, basically everything remotely against the status quo. Also, the manipulation of language these folks use is disgusting, is like gaslighting inside newspeak.

>>303857
the only thoughts people should have are the ones we allow them to have

>>303846
In a way this is a good thing because it keeps pushing more and more people to rely on crypto to transfer money without asking The Jew for permission. And when they inevitable try to encroach this hard on that too, it will then push people into the truly private ones like XMR.

>>303846
This is going to come down to someone setting up a vaguely worded gofundme to build a warchest and then jurisdiction shopping to obtain a ruling similar to Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition.

>>303846
Joke's gonna be on them when everyone fucking leaves. Appeasing payment processors doesn't mean shit when you have no payments to process.

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>>303884
>Joke's gonna be on them when everyone fucking leaves. Appeasing payment processors doesn't mean shit when you have no payments to process.
This.
Especially when you think that Subscribe Star only existed to provide a service to those who were denied the same service by Patreon.
If Subscribe Star now applies the same gay rules they are doomed, as nobody would pick them over Patreon since their side is just as gay.
Reminds me of when some years ago, lots of jewtube "alternatives" started popping out and then banned people for the same retarded reasons jewtube did, and soon after they all disappeared for this exact reason.

>>303846
And nothing was lost.

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>>303846
>so we know who's behind it... again...