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>Advice on building or upgrading
Post your build list or current specifications, including a monitor: https://pcpartpicker.com/
Provide specific use cases (like playing vidya, editing or programming).
Specify your budget and region.
Think twice before deciding to buy something to avoid buyer's remorse.

>Motherboards
At least one PCIe 4.0 M.2 slot.
Good VRM (power delivery) is required for CPUs like the i5 13500 and above.
Don't pair a K CPU with a B mobo chipset.

>CPUs
HTPC(4K60)/Web Browsing: 5600G, 14100/12100
Vidya: 7600, 7500F, 12600K, 12700KF; budget: 5600, 12400F
Overkill vidya: 7800X3D; alternate: 14600K/13600K
Workstation: 7950X, 14700K, 7900X; budget: i5 13500
AM4 upgrade: 5600, 5800X3D
Avoid iGPU-less CPUs, 5600X (if it is more expensive than the 5600)

>CPU coolers
Air: Phantom Spirit EVO/Peerless Assassin 120 SE; budget: Freezer 36 Air
Liquid: Arctic Liquid Freezer III
Avoid liquid coolers with a single 120mm fan.

>RAM
DDR4: Zen3/AM4 - 2x 16GB 3600 MT/s CL18; for locked "non-K" 12th/13th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 3200 MT/s CL16
DDR5: Zen4/AM5 - 2x 16GB 6000 MT/s CL30; for unlocked "K" 13th/14th/LGA1700 - 2x 16GB 6400MT/s CL32
Slower kits are also fine, if much cheaper. Just make sure you check the benchmark comparisons.
Note that the sweetspots are bound to change with the upcoming Zen5 and Meteor Lake processors.

>SSDs
Avoid: outdated Samsung 970 Evo Plus, cheapest poorfag NVMe SSDs.
https://ssd.borecraft.com/

>GPUs
Avoid: GPUs that were used for shitcoin mining, 4070 Ti, 4060 Ti, 3050, NVIDIA GPUs in general if you're a Linuxfag.
1080p: used 3070/3060 Ti, 4060/3060 12 GB, 7600/6650 XT/6600 XT; budget: 6600; poorfag: used 2060
1440p: 4070S/4070, 7900 GRE; budget: 6700 XT
2160p: 4080S/4080 (at MSRP); budget: 4070S Ti (avoid MSI models), 7900 XT/XTX
Production: 4090, used 3090; budget: 4060 Ti 16GB; poorfag: 3060 12GB

>12VHPWR
DO NOT USE ANGLED 12VHPWR ADAPTERS
Fully seat a 12VHPWR connector in its socket, otherwise the connection can melt.

>PSUs
Avoid: untested units, Bronze/Silver rated (assuming you live in yuroland).
Not worth buying a new PSU unless it's ATX 3.0 compliant.
Aim for 50-75% PSU utilization at full system load.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ (archive: https://archive.is/jzJ2L )
https://hwbusters.com/best_picks/best-atxv3-pcie5-ready-psus-picks-hardware-busters/ (archive: https://archive.is/QrPHX)

>Case (from $ to $$$)
mATX: I don't fucking know.
ATX: Lian Li Lancool 216, Lian Li Lancool III, Fractal Torrent.
AVOID: 'Silent' cases, fanless cases, Corsair 4000D airflow, Montech AIR 903 Base (awful stock fans).

>Monitors
Avoid: panels with less than 120 Hz refresh rates, without a single DisplayPort input and Variable Refresh Rate technology (G-Sync/FreeSync).
Check professional reviews for any monitor before you buy at sites like TFTCentral, pcmonitors.info, Monitors Unboxed, or RTINGs.
The bottom tier monitor for any decent gaming build has a 144+ Hz 24" 1080p IPS panel, of which there are many on market for around $125 (some great ones go even as low as $100).
Aim for a panel with low response times and perceived motion blur mode (Black Frame Insertion).
1440p 27" high refresh IPS is a common target for many new builds. 1440p is relatively easy to drive with even mid-range graphics cards.
Decent 2160p (4K) gaming monitors start at around $500.
OLED monitors have good HDR (including infinite contrast) and nearly instant pixel response times. However, potential burn-in is an important consideration for OLED monitors.
TL;DR: They all suck.

>OS
Install Ventoy on a flash drive, then transfer the iso files to it.
You can activate Windows with KMS_VS_ALL:
https://github.com/abbodi1406/KMS_VL_ALL_AIO/releases

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>>281738
>Feels good, eh? I manage to build a PC using AM4 era parts and it does everything I need to.
Earlier this year I worked in a job training program for about a month (basic trades stuff; you get safety certs that make you easy to hire). Most of the guys there were younger than I was, and one of them was planning to build a PC with the money he'd made since this was his first real job. I talked to him about it for a bit, and I sent him a build of a flagship AM4 system that would save about $1000 compared to his initial build and be relatively futureproof short of upgrading to an AM5 CPU.

A couple weeks later I asked him if he'd moved forward with the build, and he said "Nah, I got concert tickets instead."

This was about four or five weeks before all the tariffs kicked in.
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Has anyone here with a 120hz+ display tried out RetroArch's sub-frame rendering feature with the CRT beam racing >filter?
Does having additional sub-frames result in an objective improvement in motion clarity?
Does it even remotely compare to a bottom of the barrel 1999 CRT TV from Aldi Süd?

t. thinken of buying one of them fancy newfangled HDR 4K displays to replace my 15 year old FHD IPS monitor, but don't want to spend more than half a grand of euroyuan I would a 1440p but those can't into integer scaled CRT >filters and I don't plan on playing non-emulated post-gamergate sl*p any time soon.
>>281760
>Nah, I got concert tickets instead."
Do not pity the normalfag, he deserve everything he gets.
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>>281671
>Spoiler
What airflow config did you finally settle on?
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>>281767
Believe me, I don't. He had told me that he'd really enjoyed Dragon Age Veilguard and spoken extensively about how much he appreciated the characters and dialog, so it didn't surprise me. As much as I wanted to like the kid, drugs and fatherlessness had definitely fucked him up.

>>281788
Pics related. I think I talked about it at length a few threads ago, but the gist is:
- Two 140mm intake fans at the front.
- ThermalWright Peerless Assassin on the CPU pushing air out the back with its double fin stack.
- One side mounted 140mm fan to help take warm air away from the GPU.

The Fractal North case has two SKUs, one with a glass side panel and the one I got with a mesh side panel. The mesh is actually the less expensive, presumably because it doesn't let you see inside and be mesmerized by all the epic gamer RGB patterns you spent money on, but I don't have any of that so it didn't matter to me. The mesh is actually not very good for passive exhaust because the holes are so small, but it came with a fan bracket if you wanted to have a side exhaust fan.

Getting a fan that fit and actually making it fit was surprisingly difficult; I went with a Be Quiet something-or-other and had to manually twist the screws into the plastic holes because they weren't threaded. The other Be Quiet fans I saw and experimented with used plastic plugs to hold themselves in place but this model came with screws for whatever reason. But it fits now, and it does help a lot to remove the GPU exhaust. I've thought about adding additional fans, but it wouldn't make sense and would probably make the case thermals worse. Whenever I've opened it up and stuck my hand in, the cool air coming in the front has a noticeably strong flow to it, and I can feel the head coming out the side from the GPU exhaust whenever I'm gaming.

And speaking of GPUs, I was watching the newest GamersNexus video about the 5060's performance and benchmarks and I found myself astonished at how little things have progressed. The 5060 has the same 8GB of VRAM that my 3060 Ti from 2021 does, and it barely outperformed the 3060 Ti on modern games. This would normally be a good thing because I think we've hit a point where mid-range cards are pretty much the best unless you're mining bitcoin in your spare time or you want to set your house on fire, but the 5060 is priced at practically the same MSRP the 3060 Ti was when it launched during the pandemic.

This thing should be like $200-250 and have 12GB VRAM, not $350+ with 8GB. The entire industry is so fucking stupid and I'm happy that I have to interact with it as little as possible now.
>>281801
Graphics card market essentially is the same as the phone market now
>minor upgrade for same price or more
>if you are on a budget better to just buy old
>amount of ram you have being useful  can be worthless just one day
>trap purchase options
>>281801
>second pic
>GPU blowing hot air down
The fuck of an ass wierd GPU are you using that doesn't blow up hot air up?
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>>281811
thank you for these btw
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>>281801
>And speaking of GPUs, I was watching the newest GamersNexus video about the 5060's performance and benchmarks and I found myself astonished at how little things have progressed.
Don't they not support PhysX anymore? It's more like it regressed.
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>>281814
Pretty much they dropped support for games that were 32 bit Physx which means games like batman arkham and non remaster metro will run worse than an old card probably.

>>281811
For the price it's not terrible but stock issues are dreadful and arguably it should be cheaper.
I'm glad I bought an RX 6600
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>>281812
Just doing my part.
>>281814
>>281816
Yeah, I haven't seen any workarounds yet but physx performance tanks on new cards. I'm sure it's possible to implement a software layer to fix this but jewvidia can't be assed to do it.
The only real fix is to have on second old card to use just for physx.
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>>281822
Nvidia released the source code for physx, so it is up for the game devs or some autistic normalfag to fix it.
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>>281828
I'm not sure if the source would even really help for developing a compatibility layer that converts 32bit physx calls to something like vulkan. But tbh this isn't my specialty.
I like that aesthetic but like Minecraft lewds I have a hard time enjoying it.
That last image with the anthro girls is great though. Oughta needs to do more hmofa tbh.
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>ASRock B850 Pro-A and Ryzen 5 9600x arrive
>put them together
>turn on PC
>memory training or something for a minute
>fan speed lowers
>5 beeps with red and yellow lights
>followed by the green and white lights for a few seconds, then a single beep and they turn off
>CPU, case and GPU fans keep running and the attached keyboard's num lock key lights up after this, but there is no video output from my HD7970 dunno bout the iGPU as I don't have an HDMI cable on hand
What did the machine spirits mean by this?
I put the CPU in its socket right after getting it out of its box and didn't see any dirt or obstructions on it, the golden triangle was also aligned correctly.
Did my CPU explode, is the board fug or is this one of those BIOS daemons making the news as of late?
Gonna see if I can update the BIOS with the flashback thingy tomorrow.
The flimsyness of the AM5 socket mounting compared to AM3 with its satisfying click when engaging the lock disturbs me.
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>>281822
>Yeah, I haven't seen any workarounds yet but physx performance tanks on new cards
The workaround is get a secondary card to run PhysX, even a 1650 is decent enough for the job
And again it's not that the new cards have poor physX performance it's that they do not run it at all, so your CPU is forced to do the job and since Nvidia is trash they gimped the CPU fallback to hell to force you to buy another one of their GPUs

>>281828
It's a bit more complex than that
There's 3 ways you fix the issue

>1
You make a 32 to 64 bit PhysX translation layer, it's cool but AMD and intel users get shafted
>2
You make a PhysX to XYZ API translation layer, it's way harder and Nvidia has sued people who've tried in the past but everyone gets to benefit
>3
You unfuck the CPU fallback (starting by allowing it to use more than 1 core would be great already), it's the easiest, but since it has no other practical use unlike 2 it will have the least people interested, and it potentially will have lesser performance unless you throw some insane CPUs at it (granted nowadays 8+ core isn't rare and 24 core is something you can get as a regular user).
>>281832
Try to put only one stick of RAM is slot 2, then try the other stick
Could be DoA RAM
850 chipset should have 9600X support out of the box, but an update can't hurt

> HD7970 
Could be your card isn't UEFI compatible, you can fix that by flashing a R9 280X BIOS on it IIRC had the reverse issue with a HD7770 that had a R7 250X BIOS and wouldn't display anything on a legacy mobo, I would grab an HDMI cable and test the IGP first however.

>Spoiler 
Welcome to LGA sockets

My AM5 experience today was a lot better, got a for parts mobo off ebay from a guy claiming a failed BIOS update guy literally told me a pushed the reset button during the update
Was half expecting it to be completely fucked like that other board that was "untested / for parts" but covered in solder flux near the BIOS chip didn't see it on the photos, but it turned out to actually be entirely fine and just needed a BIOS flashback, so yeah $300 mobo for $40.
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>>281808
>my 3060 Ti from 2021 
You tell me, dude. It's the Zotac Twin Edge version.
I did a quick comparison with other 3060 Tis from other card makers and they all have the exhaust fans on the bottom for both 3-fan and 2-fan cards. Maybe it was just something about that particular product line.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/npRYcf/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-ti-lhr-8-gb-gaming-twin-edge-video-card-zt-a30610e-10mlhr

>>281831
>Oughta needs to do more hmofa 
I don't think he's drawn a human male aside from shitposts or sketches in many years; the closets you'll get is a generic muscular human dude with an animal face and a tail. Regardless, the storyboard for his upcoming animation looks incredibly impressive. Better than something you'd find in a "professional" animation studio.
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>>281801
>>281926
I think you want the side fan to be intake, not exhaust. AFAIK graphics card fans pull air in and push it over the heatsink, and then exhaust the air out the sides. You want to be feeding fresh cool air to the GPU. I've looked at this product on Zotac's site and Guru3D and I can't find any mention of the fans on the GPU being exhaust fans, which would be pretty atypical.
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>>281926
Anon, that fan/blade direction is telling me that is intake not exhaust and checking the gpu pics it doesn't have a big ass hole in the backplate, so it exhausting the hot air at the sides like pic related.
It would be retarded if the gpu would be doing the opposite, but maybe I'm wrong.
Put your hand and check the flow.
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>>281930
>>281963
>CPU fans pull air away from the heat fins and expel it in a single direction
>GPU fans push air onto the heat fins and let it dribble out the sides in various directions
...Huh. You learn something every day.

You know, I had put my hand next to the fans and observed them quite carefully when they were running at high load, but I had come to the conclusion that they were pushing the air downward. Because the top of the GPU is covered in almost solid metal, so it wouldn't make sense to push air in that direction. I will need to rethink the airflow in my case.
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>>281816
They didn't drop PhysX specifically so much as their 32-bit CUDA runtime that PhysX was based on, because who the hell is writing CUDA for 32-bit processors these days. Either way fuck nvidia, delete nvidia, all my homies hate nvidia.

>I'm glad I bought an RX 6600
The 6600XT I bought when the crypto bubble was just starting to hit dobson levels is looking better every day.
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>>281967
>Fuck nvidia, delete nvidia,
Yeah, they really pushed it honestly way too far for too long and that's not me including their flaws with their new cards.
>features locked to new cards for no real reason
>software gimmicks to make their cards look good
>an old or obscure game not working as expected? not our issue
I can say the same for Windows as well.
>>281837
>buy hdmi cable and USB drive just in case
>connect hdmi from board to monitor
>see the bios
>csm disabled by default, the fucken niggers
>can't get it to boot from my BIOS-configured drives and my GPU still outputs nothing
>see options for VideoOp and StorageOp with options for uefi only, legacy only and do not execute
>why is there no "both" or "auto" setting
>set videoOp to legacy
>reset
<now the iGPU doesn't work as well
>absolutely ebin :DDD
>find old WinXP micro-ATX toaster from 2006 I thought I'd thrown away years ago only for it to reappear in my basement
>hook it up, dog bless it still werks
>download the latest BIOS from ASRock, put it on the empty drive and rename it for flashing purposes
>use the flashback function to flash it
>15 minutes later and thank god I have hdmi video again
>manage to boot into my Linuchs rescue drive, now trying to see if I can get Grub to transition from BIOS to ESG EFI
Isn't modern technology great?
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>>281965
It depends on the gpu fan design.
Since the PCB is in the way, the hot air goes to the sides depending on the heatsink orentation.
If the GPU has 3 fans, only 1 fan as a hole in the backplate were hot air goes thru.
For a GPU with a blower fan, it goes at the side were the hdmi connecters are.
The 5090 has a really neat desing were it has a tiny ass PCB in the middle of the GPU sandwished by two fans that push air thru the heatsink wihtout worring about the pcb being in the way.
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I looked a bit more closely and I can feel hot air coming out the back even now when I'm not playing anything, so it's definitely pulling air up from just above the power supply shroud. I made an updated diagram to show where the airflow is now that I understand it.

The light blue circles represent the possible locations for the side fan. Right now I've got it at the location near the back of the case and I inverted it so it's a standard intake fan which will feed cool air directly to the GPU; this will give my system significant positive pressure, so I think it'd make sense for me to get another fan or two and put them on the back/top near the CPU.

The only thing I'm iffy about now is the GPU pushing hot air out the front and back and sides. Seems like it is very difficult to make this work with air cooling since there will always be a strong current of air coming directly at one of the heat fin stacks and causing turbulence.
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>>281979
I guess the PSU is below the gpu?
Yes, the gpu is throwing hot air everywhere, but is should be easy to guide it.
Those exhaust fans in the corner are crucial to guide the hot air out of the system.
The fan on the top pump air in is optional, it will help for the cpu temps a little, what ever you do, don't make it exhaust, because it will stave the cpu for cool air.
You can put fans next to the gpu, but remember to put them below the gpu, if you put them right next to it, it will block the airflow the gpu fans are trying to push out.
You can also undervolt your gpu to get better temps, at the cost of a few frames, don't ask me how because I have never done it.
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>>281983
>PSU under GPU
Yes, the PSU is in the PSU shroud in the standard position.
>You can put fans next to the gpu, but remember to put them below the gpu, if you put them right next to it, it will block the airflow the gpu fans are trying to push out.
Right. I might get one or two 120mm fans for the side bracket and move the 140mm currently in it to the back so it draws hot air out. I'd like to have it on the top but the Silent Assassin is so xboxhueg that I can't fit anything near it. Fortunately it's a beast at cooling so that's all good.
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>>281965
>You know, I had put my hand next to the fans and observed them quite carefully when they were running at high load, but I had come to the conclusion that they were pushing the air downward.
When I'm unsure about which direction a fan is blowing air, I usually get a thin strip of paper (like a flattened receipt or something) and hold it just in front of the fan. In my experience that's more definitive than just holding my hand in front of it.
>Because the top of the GPU is covered in almost solid metal, so it wouldn't make sense to push air in that direction
The air is being pushed over the heatsink and the backplate to keep them cool, and the hot air naturally exhausts over the heatsink fins. The metal backplate also adds some extra thermal mass.
>>281979
This looks good. As long as you are pulling sufficient amounts of cool air into the front of your case, the hot air will naturally exhaust out the back. If you have an additional fan you should mount it as exhaust in the back, behind the CPU cooler, like in the pic posted by >>281983
Whats a good, secure phone for banking?
I live in a shithole trying to larp as civilised so I need one.
>>282063
pinephone or something with grapheneOS
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>manage to set EFI n sheeit so Linux now boots and works normally as far as I can see
>go back to the BIOS
>Patriot Viper Venom DDR5-6000 RAM defaults to 3600mhz
>XMP and EXPO profiles show the manufacturer advertised timings CL30-40-40-76 along with a second profile at 5600mhz with slightly different timings
>try out the 6000mhz profile
>memory training fails with 3 beeps, runs again and boots at 3600mhz
>try out the other profile
>same result
>repeat with the XMP profiles, same shit
>read up some articles on the Interwebs about manually setting a lower frequency while retaining the boost timings
>set the frequency to 4800
>PC doesn't post after the memory timing screeching noise stops
>mix and match RAM until I discover one of my sticks gets the system to boot at 4800mhz while the other doesn't
>why the ASRock B850 Pro-A BIOS didn't automatically default back to its auto setting after the failed memory like my previous DDR3 motherboard from 2011 I don't know, but putting the second (defective?) stick in A1 with the "good" stick in A2 results in a working system
Am I retarded or is one of the sticks fug?
I tried an A2/B2 configuration when the speed was set to 4800mhz and that didn't work.
DDR3 didn't have any of this memory timing test faggotry, you knew within seconds if your speed/timing was set correctly or not while this shit can take more than a minute until the system POSTs.
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>>282072
>for banking
Has to be usable anon.
>>282084
Likely there's an error that breaks ram overclock but lets it work fine on factory timings.
>>282063
tbh just get a cheap used pixel. Android is gay and there's only so much you can do to make it secure, so just use it as little as possible.
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>>282084
The proper slot for 2 sticks dual channel are A2 / B2, A1 / B1 are the shit slots
I'd try a full CMOS clear, and disabling Memory Context Restore.

>DDR3 didn't have any of this memory timing test faggotry
It did, it was just so much faster you didn't notice.
>>282063
CalyxOS?
https://calyxos.org/
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>>282092
>>282096
Thanks for the replies, I'm looking at a secondhand motorola G for the battery life actually.
Pixels are rare here.
So, is the GPU market more or less fucked than 3 months ago?
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>>282208
Not really, only thing different is  the 9060 xt atm is in supply and  isn't absurdly overpriced.
EVGA motherboard owners furious over modern GPU issues — DIY users resort to taping over pins to fix RTX 50 Series problem on Z690 boards
https://archive.ph/20250611011435/https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/evga-motherboard-owners-furious-over-modern-gpu-issues-diy-users-resort-to-taping-over-pins-to-fix-rtx-50-series-problem-on-z690-boards
>Reports from r/TEAMEVGA and other forums indicate a growing concern regarding boot-up problems with newer RTX 50 GPUs on motherboards from EVGA. The problem lies with extra SMBUS pins on several EVGA motherboards, which create a conflict when paired with GPUs from Nvidia. Without official support, users have resorted to an ingenious fix: physically taping over the pins on the GPU's PCIe connector to silence any unwanted communication, and thus far, this solution has proven successful for several individuals.
>Citing conflicts with Nvidia, EVGA withdrew from the GPU market in 2022 and scaled back its other business operations considerably. A direct consequence of this contraction has manifested in the form of lackluster software support, which is likely the cause of these reported boot-up problems. It's likely not a matter of malicious intent, but rather a consequence of EVGA's drastic scale-down, which means they likely don't have enough resources to dedicate to software, assuming those teams still even exist.
>According to the Redditor, their EVGA Z690 Classified includes SMBUS pins in the PCIe slot (pins 5 and 6), which are generally left unwired in most consumer-grade alternatives. SMBUS is a small communication line that's largely used by components for lightweight communication, think power management and temperature. It's highly possible that Nvidia's RTX 50 GPUs likely don't expect or cannot handle an SMBUS connection, which effectively halts the system from booting up.
>Even if disabling these pins through firmware were an option, EVGA's support has shrunk to Reddit forums, likely mirroring the state of their software teams. The Redditor found a crafty workaround by scouring old forums and identifying the problem's source as pins 5 and pins 6 on the GPU's gold finger, responsible for managing the SMBUS connection.
>The solution was to break the connection with the help of a 2mm-wide strip of Kapton tape over the two pins on the PCIe connector, effectively creating a barrier and stopping the SMBUS signals from reaching the GPU. It is a bit finicky, requiring great precision to ensure only those specific pins are blocked, but it works nonetheless.
>As a prerequisite, the user suggests cleaning the gold finger with isopropyl alcohol. It is important to note this isn't a widespread issue, since other EVGA motherboards, including some Z690 models and most Z790 models, reportedly remain unaffected. We haven't heard anything official from EVGA on the matter, at least not yet.
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>>282648
Sounds more like Nvidia's fault for expecting those pins to always be disconnected.
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>>282651
This.
I'd bet it's an intentional design to fuck with enterprise users not paying for the $10k datacenter GPUs.
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>>282664
Sort of like datacenter HDDs where regular PSU manufacturer outright refuse to provide you cables that don't make them not spin up.
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>>281988
*The rear part of the case takes a 120mm fan. I learned this when I tried to install a 140mm fan in it.

In short, I was able to get two fans, one 140mm and one 120mm. The new ones are both 140mm Be Quiet Silent Wings, and the 140mm one is replacing the Be Quiet Pure Wings I had on the side bracket. The 120mm is squeezed in there next to the Peerless Assassin in a very funny way, but it's definitely drawing warm air out of the case and helping the CPU and motherboard keep cool.

The PSU that I ordered a couple weeks ago also arrived, which I will be installing this weekend since my old one was 10 years old.
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AMD's successful 9070 XT launch and Nvidia's disastrous Blackwell launch haven't stopped AMD's market share from falling. 92% Nvidia.

Also, have 2 girls kissing.
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>>282697
If I remember correctly the usual AMD  cope is including console sales into the mix because they all are on amd chips (besides nintendo now).
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>>282702
so why does not amd include literally everything else than, yes even gambling machines run amd
>>282666
That's not a way locking out users, that's just a side effect of a useful feature that was added. 
This is nvidia being jews, simple as.
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So how many of you faggots own 90s/2000s hardware? Shit's gotten a lot harder to find thanks to techtubers (not that a lot of it survived the ewaste scourge anyway) but sometimes you get lucky with junk shops, estate sales or the rare recycler that actually lets you save things from the crusher. I still have my family's Trinitron and got really lucky finding a Pentium and Athlon rig at a local rummage sale so I'm pretty much set. If you're in the US there are still computer swap meets where being a scalping asshole is discouraged too.
>>282772
I have an old PC I got off ebay for $100 like 10 years ago, but it's not ideal since it's too slow for Windows and only supports a HDD up to like 2GB. I put it into storage and got rid of the CRT monitor I was using with it years ago.

I'd like to get something closer to my first PC which was a 166mz Pentium (2 I think) with Windows 95, but I have nowhere to put it anyway.
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>>282772
I do but tbh I don't feel the need to actually use it. There's nothing that my modern PC can't do better, and I can connect it to a CRT if I really want. I really should just sell it before the bubble burst.
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>>282772
I have two beige towers collecting dust and 2 old computers with ddr3 and I think ddr2 in them.
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>>282773
>I put it into storage and got rid of the CRT monitor I was using with it years ago.
You poor fool, that shit is money. If it's "too slow for Windows" it's probably a 486 or earlier and EGA monitor.

>>282774
>There's nothing that my modern PC can't do better
WRONG
While emulators have made a lot of progress in the last 10 years there's still a lot of games from before 1996 or so that are speed-sensitive. DOSBox will give you hassle if you try to play these (its CPU emulator can't hit an exact speed and the "cycles" parameter is a hateful lie) and other emulators with better instruction timings go whole hog on accuracy so you end up needing an i7 to play Magic Carpet properly. I bet your modern PC can't into VBIOS, oddball pixel aspect ratios or VBE either, though 86Box might depending on what specifically you're after.
And that's all just for PCs, Amiga and Mac emulation is still full of fucked up hacks and corner cases that have been around for literal decades, though Mac software was abstracted enough it usually doesn't matter. Of course, there's also just the pure irrational appeal of holding onto a relic from when technology wasn't so fake and gay.
>I really should just sell it before the bubble burst.
I don't think the bubble's going to burst anytime soon unfortunately, especially for Win9x and earlier stuff there's not that much supply left between gold scrappers and battery/cap bombs taking out old motherboards, while there's going to be demand for it as long as people remember the era fondly. You wouldn't believe how much a toaster mac costs these days simply because every single one that hasn't been recapped yet is like 90% sure to be beyond repair from exploding RIFA caps. At most you'll see the wave peter out by the C2D era, since by that point everything was just the-same-but-faster and the software was abstracted enough that emulators can handle it easily.
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>>282779
>You poor fool, that shit is money. If it's "too slow for Windows" it's probably a 486 or earlier and EGA monitor.
Nah it's VGA, a Pentium Overdrive 86mhz. Maybe it was fast enough for Windows 95 but I really didn't like the BIOS of that PC limiting the HDD capacity so I don't think I tried installing it. DOS games are easy enough to emulate so I would want the flexibility of also being able to play 16-bit Windows games for an old PC to be worthwhile.
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>>282780
Anon, I...
>Maybe it was fast enough for Windows 95 but I really didn't like the BIOS of that PC limiting the HDD capacity so I don't think I tried installing it.
It's a 1995 CPU, anon. It won't zip along by current year standards but Windows will run fine, especially if you're using a CF card for storage. The 2GB barrier is actually a FAT16 limitation and installing OSR2 will fix it, or you can just get an 8GB card, load it with four 2GB partitions, and not worry about it.
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After 15 months and 3,800 hours of 'worst case' usage, one independent test finds OLED burn-in is now almost a non-issue
https://web.archive.org/web/20250610160924/https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/gaming-monitors/after-15-months-and-3-800-hours-of-worst-case-usage-one-independent-test-finds-oled-burn-in-is-now-almost-a-non-issue/
>OLED is very nearly the perfect display technology. But two possible problems remain. The first, limited full-screen brightness looks like it's been cracked by Samsung and LG's next-gen panel tech. And now new evidence that burn-in isn't necessarily much of a worry is here.
>YouTube channel, Monitors Unboxed, has been running a long term test with MSI's MPG 321URX (we also reviewed the refreshed MSI MPG 322URX this week). It's a 32-inch 4K model running Samsung's QD-OLED tech.
>Monitors Unboxed chose a 32-inch 4K monitor because the idea was to perform a worst-case scenario assessment of OLED burn in. Instead of gaming, then, the monitor was used for daily work duties involving lots of fairly static elements, including the Windows task bar and a regular setup of two application windows arranged side-by-side.
>Mitigating measures, including auto-hiding the task bar or using dark mode across the Windows UI, were also not exploited. Monitors Unboxed did allow the monitor to run its built-in panel and pixel refresh routines, otherwise known as panel compensation cycles, but only overnight and not in a manner that interrupted usage.
>Monitors Unboxed used the screen for about eight hours a day, but those cycles are supposed to run every four hours. Again, the idea here is worst-case scenario.
>Monitors Unboxed's testing has now hit the the 15 month mark, around 3,400 to 3,800 hours of unforgiving on-time and 413 panel compensation cycles. And the results? There is a little burn in and it has progressed slightly since it first become clearly apparent at the six month mark. But it's still only mild and is only noticeable—and then only just—over certain background colours.
>Overall, Monitors Unboxed concludes that, "the outcome to the point has been relatively good. Burn-in has so far been quite minor."
Leading into this update, Monitors Unboxed was optimistic the 321RUX would have a level of burn-in after two years that isn't distracting for everyday use and believes the monitor is still on track to achieve that. At this point, the channel estimates the MSI panel should be good for around two to three years as used, though that estimate could be extended.
>Given this testing is about as bad as it gets for an OLED panel, you can probably expect even better performance from more varied usage with plenty of gaming and other non-static content thrown in. So, three years plus and maybe as much as five years of fairly heavy usage.
>Of course, most modern LCD monitors will easily give five to 10 years of reliable service. So OLED monitors still have something to prove. But Monitors Unboxed's testing largely squares with our experience with OLED monitors, which is to say we've seen little to no burn-in, including with OLED panels in laptops.
>All of which is to say the OLED burn-in is almost, but maybe not quite, a complete non-issue. If you're hoping for something like 10 years usage, OLED probably isn't a good pick. But anything up to about five years of general use and gaming looks pretty plausible at this point.
>It should be noted that this only directly applies to Samsung's QD-OLED panel tech as used in the MSI MPG 321URX. But broader experiences of LG's competing WOLED tech, including our own, suggests it offers burn-in resistance that's at least as good as QD-OLED. In general, then, it all looks pretty positive for OLED burn in.
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>>282788
that's a lot of words just for meme display
>200 dollars per year for 5 years
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>>282772
Techtubers kind of ruined this hobby but I was collecting a little bit before things got bad. I recently acquired an Antec Super Lanboy in really good condition for like $50. It even came with some extra hardware inside, but I'm going to try and build out a socket 939 build it in to replicate the first build I did back in high school.

What I really want to do is one of those all-clear acrylic case builds but they're impossible to come by nowadays. I've seen some awesome builds in this with cathode ray tubes and the old DFI Lanparty boards.
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>>282794
If you have money and time you  can always 3D print an case.
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>>282795
When possible I prefer to use original, period-correct parts for these types of builds - I feel like the point is to reconstruct something that accurately reflects what would have been built historically. That being said you make a pretty good point, with some of these rarer parts like the acrylic case, I'm probably never actually going to find one for sale. Something like a 3D printed alternative might have to do.
>>282779
> At most you'll see the wave peter out by the C2D era
Nah, LGA775 is going way up and many platforms after that as well
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>>282788
>8 hours a day
>worst case usage
Nigger I'm on my pc at least 12 hours a day what the fuck
>>282794
Yeah, 3D printing is amazing, you can just print the part you are missing without looking for it in online stores.
>>282684
I spent half an hour* tinkering with the cables, case fans, and CPU fans last night before trying to install the PSU. Embarrassingly, I had somehow installed the CPU fans in a double retarded manner: on the wrong side of the fin towers, and in the wrong direction. So not only had I tried to set the fans such that they were pulling air in through the fins, but they were also blowing air forwards towards the front case fans.

The PSU installation didn't work out, but now the airflow is actually working the way I expected it to. I tested it with a piece of paper to ensure my traitorous hands weren't telling me the wrong thing.

*four hours
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>>282833
>The PSU installation didn't work out
A further layer of retardation: the new PSU simply needed me to plug both ends of the mobo cable into the PSU even if I'm only using one end in the mobo (the 18-pin connector or the 10-pin connector).

My PC is now humming along splendidly.
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>>282910
All good then?
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Any recommendations for standalone desktop microphones? I've been using the JLAB Talk for about 5 years, and it's been great but the cheap build quality is finally catching up with me so I think I'll need to get a new one in the foreseeable future.

- The legs on the Talk are flimsy and can easily pull off, and the hinges don't have any friction so you can't adjust the height.
- The face button and volume/gain dial are functional, but the dial has never been reliable: you can turn it 3 clicks and only have the volume/gain adjust by 2, for instance.
- The mic cable gave out after a couple years and needed to be replaced.
- The mute button on the Talk produces a loud CLUNK whenever you (un)mute it, which kind of defeats the point of doing so.
- The arms holding the mic to the stand are very flimsy, and the whole thing feels like it's made of balsa wood.
- While the core mic in the Talk has worked up until just recently, I think it is now beginning to deteriorate.

My local stores currently have good deals on the Blue Yeti (bit of a meme, but a well-built meme) and the HyperX QuadCast 2. The latter seems like a good long-term solution for different kinds of audio recording but it's $20-30 more expensive than the Yeti in canuck bucks.

>>282911
Finally, somehow, yes.
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>>282801
Shit. I think people just read vogons and buy up anything that gets mentioned as a deal. There is no goddamn reason why C2D should have value when the "magic" of PC hardware was long gone by then. At least the bubble means what's left actually gets preserved, and you can buy repro versions of seemingly every weird expansion card you could want for gaming.
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>>283000
I mean from personal experience if you want a X48 board with DDR3 or a nForce 790i board you are gonna have to pay out the ass or compromise, and if you want a top tier LGA775 build those are your goal possibly with a QX9650 / QX9750
>>282965
Turns out my mic's volume problems were due to software settings being fucked up, not due to hardware failure. That's good because a halfway decent mic would have been quite expensive and there isn't anything fundamentally wrong with the JLAB Talk.

I've also adjusted my fan curve so that the case fans are almost completely silent when the machine is on, and the only noise made from the CPU fan whirring up is a dull roar. I think previously it'd been revving up too fast, or the fan speed hadn't really matched the temperature of the CPU, but things are as they should be now.
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>looking at getting an AMD GPU because I'm getting tired of nvidia's shit linux drivers
>9070 XT expensive as fuck despite all the talk of dropping high-end to grow their market share in this segment
>oh well 9060 XT 16gb should be fine
<only 3 display outputs because ?????
<can't run my shit with less than 4
So now my options are getting a 5060 Ti 16gb and praying the drivers don't get any worse or forking out an even more absurd amount of shekels for a 9070 XT.
If things continue like this I swear I'm going to end up with a fucking jewtel GPU next time.
>>283308
I'm guessing you either didn't think about using the IGP output for the last screen or are already doing just that and somehow have a 5 screen setup
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>>283309
The iGPU barely worked to begin with and completely breaks vsync in multi-monitor configs. I'd rather not gamble on an Intel iGPU playing well with an AMD card.
>>283308
>wanting to buy a fucking GPU now
I don't know what to tell you, anon, you are fucked, buy used or keep waiting for a price drop for AMD, forget about nvidia that shit is always expensive and stupid low stock because fuck you.
>>283308
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#O=3,4&sort=price&page=1&H=1,4
>>283308
>He doesn't have a backup little GPU for just such an occasion.
This is why it's great to have a small card that doesn't take any extra pins. They're like $20 on ebay. Assuming your mobo has an extra slot available.
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I know the MSRP is fake and gay, but damn couldn't they lied it would be 200 monopoly monies?
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>>283717
Fake cards fake prices
>>283608
Same vsync problems as with the iGPU with and as an added bonus both your cards are now likely running at x8.
>>283717
>starting at 259 and 999
what the fuck?
>283755
Comparing the cost of one card to an entire laptop. I'm pretty sure that's videocardz so you should expect them to be retarded.
I know it's a little off topic, but I need to purchase a new phone for work. I'm currently using a Samsung Galaxy A8 and I'm considering one of the new google phones, but I'm unsure which of the current options are best value for money. Should I even be considering google at all? I'm completely out of the phone and tech game.
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>>283803
I thought about google but their battwries are shit and superglued, maybe just get a nothing phone with a custom rom if you want a new phone.
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>>283803
Good luck buying this outside of europoor
https://www.fairphone.com/
Is your business pro trump? Has a lot of money and makes stupid desicions?
https://puri.sm/products/liberty-phone/
Do you hate yourself?
https://pine64.com/product/pinephone-pro-explorer-edition/
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