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You know,  I never played these games even though I own 3 for the ps2. I did play through the left for dead SH map with some friends though.

>>267695
What's stopping you from getting into the series? Lack of interest?

>>267693 (OP) 
>spoiler
They can easily retcon it if need be. Remember that SH3 is based on only one of the many endings of SH1.

>>267693 (OP) 
You stopped before the best one.

I only ever played 1 and 4, and didn't get much far in either because I played them when I was a teen and a big pussy

>>267698
Could be all the fanaticism from non-fans and posers. I know that's turned me off from several series.

>>267709
You shouldn't let retarded "fan" bases ruin things for you.

>>267707
Heh, I like these. 

>>267711
Seeing all the "longtime SH2 fans" praising the remake while subtly shitting on the original was a real eye opener for me. Fanbases belong in hell.

>>267712
I don't think a lot of those people played SH2 or at least don't remember it well because the atmosphere and art direction were clearly off. They could also be soy-chugging retards without a critical fold in their brains (like the ones found in other franchises, where they just gobble down whatever the rights holder shits out next without question). Though, I'd say the existence of the cashgrab remake and the retards who like it doesn't make SH2 retroactively bad.

I want to play SH2. Is the abandonware download any good? I've seen some people claim it's malware.

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>>267709
>Could be all the fanaticism from non-fans and posers. I know that's turned me off from several series.
Those "people" are so fucking lame.
>>267712
>Seeing all the "longtime SH2 fans" praising the remake while subtly shitting on the original was a real eye opener for me.
Those people are most likely lying about being "longtime SH2 fans" thinking this will give them any believability when they shill the garbage over-the-shoulder and uglyfied remake.

>>267716
Malware dont work in linux faggot.

>>267724
>runs rm -rf ~/*
>nothing personnel, kid

>>267716
Get the Director's Cut version for PC and play it vanilla, avoid the widescreen mod since it shrinks the cutscenes to fit 16:9.

>>267724
You're right, you can't infect what is essentially Malware OS.

>>267716
(You) can emulate the PS2 release.

>>267716
This one: https://www.myabandonware.com/game/silent-hill-2-restless-dreams-bgd#download is safe. Don't listen to >>267738 play the PC version with the Enhanced Edition mod.

>At the Twin pyramid head fight on SH2
>Not much ammo
>Got none of the melee weapons beyond the plank
>Unsure if using all my ammo on them now means the encounter that comes next will be night impossible to beat
>Playing on Hard
I'm starting to reconsider my choice of difficulty

>>267774
In SH 1-3 if you run out of ammo during a boss fight you can just run around for a while and the boss will eventually kill itself.
With that said, the game showers you with free ammo so that's unlikely to happen. Did you fully explore the city during both the day and night? In my last playthrough I had way too much ammo to spare by the time I reached the final boss.

>>267704
You're saying that as if we could ever get another game by the same team ;_;
Well, I wonder if Silent Hill f will be any good, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
>>267705
I'll play it at some point.
>>267774
>>267779
Wasn't it possible to make them stab each other or am I thinking of a different game? Either way, it looks like you'll have to run circles around them.

>>267780
>>267779
What's the Time limit? I've already spent an army's worth of bullets on that fat fuck.

>>267779
>In SH 1-3 if you run out of ammo during a boss fight you can just run around for a while and the boss will eventually kill itself.
I thought that WAS how you beat the Twin Pyramid Heads.

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>>267774
>Not much ammo
>Got none of the melee weapons beyond the plank
What are you doing? First time playing? The sidewalk during night after the hospital should've given you enough ammo to last the rest of the game. Besides,
>missing the great knife
Way to make things harder than they should be. Figured this out first time playing as well:
>run up to a wall
>make sure your back is against the wall
>switch to the big knife
>you should have one PT in front of you and another one in the opposite side to the knife you're wielding
>do the circular lunge then aim towards the fag to your side halfway through the animation
>if you've done it right the knife will jump against the wall
>aim back towards the PT in front of you in this second attack
>the PT will be hurt from both attacks and their animations will stagger
>rinse and repeat
If you find the sweetspot you can pin them down without receiving any damage, easily the jankiest fight in the game without the chainsaw fuck Eddie with a rusted icepick.

>trying to find any info on SH2 only leads to the remake
>Have to change the Date to before 2024 for any results that isn't the remake
I Hate Remakes
I Hate Remakes

Good timing, I have actually been playing SH2 for the first time recently. 

I was getting really frustrated with the combat by the time I got to the hospital, since the enemies come in groups and I didn't realize you could stomp on downed enemies to kill them right away. I was using the overhead swing to beat them on the ground but the shitty pressure sensitive controls made that unreliable.

Right now I am up to some prison, except I got trapped in a room and killed by bugs so I haven't played for a few days after that bullshit. Also is it possible to save Maria or did I fuck up by running away?

>>267843
>when you realize you're in an ad thread

>>267845
>I am in some prison, except I got trapped in a room
The flashlight went off. There's a battery in your inventory at that point in the game.
Then there's a padlock in that room with three highlighted buttons. You should be able to figure out what to do.
>spoiler
No. It's all the more infuriating when you're playing on hard and finally figure out how to get Maria to the elevator, only for Coneman to dunk on her regardless.

>>267848
>thread for 25 year old games is an ad to remake no one is bothering to defend

>>267850
>The flashlight went off. There's a battery in your inventory at that point in the game.
Yeah I put the battery in it, I thought that's what triggered the bugs. I was trying to fight them so I didn't see the way out before dying.

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>>267851
>I was trying to fight the bugs
For what rhyme or reason would fighting the bugs get you out of that room, anon.

>>267852
I dunno, when Laura trapped you in a room you had to kill the ceiling guys to get out.

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>>267853
There's a very clear difference between the dramatic buildup to the hospital boss fight and bugs on a wall.

>>267850
There are times when newfags learn about x old game when it is remade. Crystalis is a good example, nes/gc hidden gem turned 'new'. "Their" goal is to ad to the new kids so as to get them to buy it after making copyright infringing harder. The harder it is the more profit they make. For all I know this can't be emulated, and if not then it's very ad-licious. Then again wikipedia says it was for windows too, maybe I"m off base, but I recall psx2 emulation being bad is why I reacted that way. I don't even have a ps2 emualtor and assuming I hate windows and don't want to use Wine it'd potentially be still ad-liciousness as all get out.....

But never mind me.

>>267843
worst of all
>Newfags and Underagefags will search up the game and be greeted with the remake, seeing it as the definitive way to play the game
>Original gradually gets forgotten and becomes lost media

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I only liked 1.

>>267865
>Original gradually gets forgotten and becomes lost media
That narrative is increasingly backfiring. I haven't heard anyone say any earnest positive remakes regarding the Dead Space, RE4, amd FF7 remakes.

>>267861
See >>267744
It's entirely free to play on PC. The only "people" making money off the real SH2 at this point are jewish scalpers scamming collectortards and that's small potatoes compared to what Kusomi made off the shitty remake. Whether you play it or not, nobody is telling you that you must spend money in order to play SH2.

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>>267867
1 was a better horror game for me since it was a genuinely terrifying experience to play (only briefly played 3). 2 had its moments. The story is obviously far better written, but I think it's just because its soundtrack is far less intense than 1s that makes it far less scary for me (I get it though, as its subdued, ambient soundtrack fits 2s sad, melancholic tone in the story). Silent Hills soundtrack is INSANE!
https://youtu.be/HZ71rgxrnIE?si=yEg9cz7r4qBA10oy
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>>267873
Did you miss the whole crowbcat thing where a ton of retards got mad at him for daring to say the RE4 remake is soulless?

>>267899
>where a ton of retards got mad at him
Just because you're loud and trying to strong-arm what people can say does not make you the majority.

>>267899
Some fag called me a pedophile for saying Ashley's design in the remake was a huge downgrade across the board.

>>267911
Tell that to everyone else nigger.

>>267912
people have gotten weird lately, if you're a certain age you can't possibly find a girl that isn't your age or one year or two younger tops attractive or you're a pedophile to them
it's the weirdest shit

>>267932
That makes it funnier because I was within a couple years of Ashley's age when OG 4 released, and pretty sure she was 19 or 20 then. I don't understand people at all and they're so curt anyway that I don't care to. Apparently you have to prefer the 25-year-old girlboss whom shows no skin. Both remakes of Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2 purposefully butchered the female designs. What a shame.

>>267912
>literally says in RE4 that she was a collage student pretty sure she was kidnapped from her collage
Almost like the "people" defending the numake didn't play the original or something. Weird, isn't it?

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>>267898
The atmosphere and story is why I liked it best as shallow as that reasoning sounds, it and the soundtrack spoke to me deeply. It gets overshadowed by everyone's praise of 2 which is just a Dostojevskij plot as it was directly influenced by him, I don't understand why it's so fucking popular aside from bandwagoning. I'm not sure if I beat it too fast or was too old for it to impact me but the game wasn't compelling, Eddie and Angela especially who are just there going through the town for totally different reasons coincidentally at the same time as James.
>>267912
Puritanical moralist blob outrages and makes dictacts against sensible people who dare to find teenagers beautiful and attractive, more at 11.

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>>267912
>Some fag called me a pedophile for saying Ashley's design in the remake was a huge downgrade across the board.
We all know those types.
Was that faggot one of these two?

>>267912
For some reason, there's a trend among Gen Z and women to call people pedophiles for finding a woman of legal age attractive. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone on social media declare that being attracted to an attractive 18-year-old is "pedophilia." Words used to have meaning.

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>>267941
>purposefully butchered the female designs
Takayoshi Sato added blemishes and made characters overall uglier than the initial pitch concept art in SH2, then gave them retarded Druckmann tier grimaces during animation in order to make the characters "stand out".
I wouldn't call the female characters in 2 pretty either. What's interesting is the old CGI technology that makes characters look strange and uncanny and somehow interesting.
>>267937
>the fan room from the otherside school
My nigger. Used to pan the camera then stand there for 20 minutes just listening to the slow hum of the fan.
Shame the grunge aesthetic is long gone, but then again the influence to the Team Silent games was oddly specific.

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>>267948
Rent free, move on chvd.

>>267948
It was a face-to-face conversation with someone I knew through a friend. Pretty sure the guy is on the lower end of the spectrum.
>>267976
>I wouldn't call the female characters in 2 pretty either
Didn't mean to imply that. Just that they look worse in the remake, mostly because their designs lack the intent of the original IMO.

>>267852
>>267853
To be fair, Silent Hill often has situations where you think more complicated than you should and you can overlook an answer that is right before you.
>>267867
>>267898
The first one is definitely special.
>its soundtrack is far less intense than 1s that makes it far less scary
Even though I love 2's soundtrack I agree. One of the few tracks that is really comparable to 2's is Lisa's theme and since it's pretty unique in a soundtrack that is 80% hell the contrast is much sharper and the moment all the more special. In 3 they kind of put that intensity into the enemy sound design rather than the soundtrack, I think. Also each game has less tracks than the one before, that probably matters, too.
>>267946
>just a Dostojevskij plot
Is basing your story on another one really the same as copying it? Silent Hill 1 also took a ton of inspiration from modern horror novels. But I guess the influences here were more varied.
https://www.silenthillmemories.net/lost_memories/guide/132-133_en.htm
>I don't understand why it's so fucking popular
I'm sure a ton of people got into it thanks to the soundtrack.

>>267980
>To be fair, Silent Hill often has situations where you think more complicated than you should and you can overlook an answer that is right before you.
Yeah I learned to expect the game to be illogical after the first pyramid head fight where you have to unload like 40 rounds into him even though they make a deflection sound that would normally indicate you are doing no damage.

>>267981
Abstract puzzles simply fit the series more than logical ones.

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>>267988
>enter new area
>scavenge entire place
>go to place with prerendered screen
>use item or combination of in place of interest
Doesn't require a genius to beat a Team Silent game.

>>267990
No one has claimed otherwise.

>>267980
It was reminiscent and unoriginal is what I mean. The first game had definite influence from Twin Peaks which is why it appeals to me but was still felt original, the characters in all took meaningful part in the plot unlike 2, and the tone was darker than in following games. 1's director left Konami and made Siren which is why the series departed into psychological personal horror, and why 1 has more in common with the Siren series.

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>thread over
What towns have you guys been to that feel like Silent Hill or are at least just creepy and hostile.

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>>267941
>Both remakes of Resident Evil 4 and Silent Hill 2 purposefully butchered the female designs. What a shame.
The Silent Hill 2 remake butchered the entire game, not just the female design.

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Finally got around to finishing SH2 after that bug mishap, I had to get a new PS2 controller since my other one was acting weird. 

To be honest I am kind of underwhelmed, the game was alright but certainly not among the best games ever. It wasn't scary and the terrible voice acting really killed my investment in the story. Also I was playing in Japanese and a lot of times the subtitles just didn't match up with what the voices were saying, so I wish it had a Japanese language track instead of being forced to hear the localized version of the story.

Are SH1 and 3 any better? I was planning on playing those next.

>>268422
>Are SH1 and 3 any better?
1, 3, and 4 are much better games. 1 and 4 are primarily combat focused. 3 is horror focused.

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>>267876
I'm gonna need a phenibut vendor for when I finally decide to play Silent Hill. My doctor won't give me enough benzos to get through it I'm sure. It's the "nope" of all retro gaming. Somehow ten times worse than RE. 

>tfw never mind me times 2

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>>268449
>.gif

>>268467
apprehension really kills

>>268449
What is the dog looking at? Is there a demon hiding in the dark?

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>>268182
Rural Maine, which is where Silent Hill is supposed to be, can feel that way especially in the winter when everything is dirty and cold and dead.

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>>267912
>was a huge downgrade across the board
I liked prim and proper Ashley. Though the feeling of urgency and her dependence on Leon does change tremendously from old RE4 to nuRE4 which makes the game feel less scary, regardless of her actual age.

>>269713
>Its Ashley
>but she's a mouse
I don't get it.

>>269725
It's a joke about her big ears. However I guess no one remember that her old model was made fun of for looking like a monkey.

>>269725
she's cheesed to meet you

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>>269725
Moushley is cute. Cuuuuute!

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>>269754
FUCKABLE LIL MOUSE BITCH!

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>>267865
>Original gradually gets forgotten and becomes lost media
I think that gradually, people will realize how the OG was superior and then remake will be forgotten (or better yet, neglected) in due time.
Now we are still in the "muh hype" phase, where obvious sockpuppet accounts on jewtube and social media pretending not to be advertisers need to shill for that shit while trying to defame and ridicule those who talk shit about the garbage remake lest their sales get affected by people speaking the truth.
The narrative usually goes like this:
<Oh my god! Remake is coming out! Muh hype!
<Just played it, best thing evah!
>time passes
<Yeah it was good, but could have been better though...
<Actually, it wasn't that great...
<Let's be honest, it was pretty bad as a remake
<It was garbage, the OG was perfect the way it was and it shouldn't have been remade at all.
>>267873
>That narrative is increasingly backfiring. I haven't heard anyone say any earnest positive remakes regarding the Dead Space, RE4, amd FF7 remakes.
This
Then you realize how the ones hyping that shit are just paid shills going "how do you do, fellow gamers?" close to the game's launch, and after a while those disappears and only ones still defending that garbage are those who got caught by the "hype" marketing campaign and are just coping for the money they wasted on the shit remake.

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>>269857
I have zero idea who any of these fags are. Thank jughead.

anyone got any idea where to get SH1 from

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>>267693 (OP) 
Simce nobody mentioned Silent Hill f, after the revelation that Ryukishi07 creator of Higurashi was the writer, I decided to play it, and there couldn’t be any better choice, the guys at Konami know what to do, and are serious about reviving the ip.
But the truth remains that without team silent there’s no more silent hill, they’re different games with the same name, but the same applies to Resident Evil really.
I think Silent Hill f will lack the witty writing of the old games, like how SH3 alluded to Heather being previously pregnant and had an abortion, but it was never outright stated. Ryukishi is a better writer I’m sure, but he has a different style to how Silent Hill was.

>>275131
>SH3 alluded to Heather being previously pregnant and had an abortion
What are you talking about?

>>275152
You start the game in a dirty bathroom, by the end of the game, you find oit that Heather’s original hair is blck but she dyed it blond, a typical characteristic for delinquents, the cult talked about the importance of heather birthing their god, and got her pregnant with it.. etc.
So their’s a theory that she was pregnant in real life and had an abortion, and all those are her fears and guilt.

>>275156
>So their’s a theory that she was pregnant in real life and had an abortion, and all those are her fears and guilt.
So it's another "therapy town" theory, in which case it's wrong and bullshit.

>>275173
Silent Hill 2 was indeed therapy town and it wasn’t a bad thing. The storytelling shouldn’t be discarded because normalfags cum over youtube analytical videos, that’s retarded.

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>>275131
>But the truth remains that without team silent there’s no more silent hill, they’re different games with the same name
True, the same applies to this game.
I could be a good horror game, great even, but it would be still Silent Hill in name only.
Also:
>Silent Hill
>Not taking place in Silent Hill
I think that sometimes this publisher's retarded idea of using a known title to sell something that is entirely different ends up hurting the game's reception than anything else, because if you name your name "x" and do "y" instead, people will hate your game for not being "x" regardless of its merits outside its title, instead of appreciating it for being "y".
Then there's also the issue of dividing the fanbase, like what happened with Resident Evil, there's the OG fans who expect RE to be a survival horror with item management and newfags who played the latest thrash and expect RE to be TPS where they go mindlessly "pew pew" on their enemies like COD.

>>275188
I agree that it was retarded not to just retcon silent hill to respawn anywhere outside America, now you will have different foggy towns around the world called (not silent hill). I think they should’ve given Ryukishi the freedom to rewrite as much as he needs, since the series will forever be dead with SH4 or maybe even SH3.
And making it a new ip is just commercial suicide honestly, people already hate konami as is, they only care for the old ips.

>>275276
>since the series will forever be dead with SH4 or maybe even SH3.
Can't disagree with that.
>>275276
>And making it a new ip is just commercial suicide honestly
Not if you promote it properly, look at what they did with P.T., i assure you that after that teaser demo the game would have been successful even if it wasn't a Silent Hill title.
That shit became (somewhat) viral even before people manage to complete it and discover it was a Silent Hill game.

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>Her given name Hinako is written with the Kanji 雛 and 子 which together read as small child, or delicate child. The 雛 can mean chick, duckling, or doll, as in Hinamatsuri doll. Where as the 子 means child.

>Her family name Shimizu is written with the Kanji 深 and 水 which together read as deep water. Notable is that this is quite an unusual way of writing the name. Usually it would be written with the Kanji 清 meaning pure. Another interesting bit is that the name could also be read as Shinsui, which would be way more common given the Kanji. This leads me to believe that they deliberately chose the last name using those Kanji for a specific meaning.

Found it in plebbit by accident. Seems accurate to me, especially the dolls part, as they were the enemies in the trailer. I think child kanji could actually just means small instead, so her names become small doll. The second compound kanji can only mean to me water that births life, as it’s a common theme in literature.
I remember watching many anime especially horror where a doll becomes human. It’s very common and never explained how so no one cares about that part.

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>>278568
Also the scene where her face is being peeled could also allude to the doll thing, as it could be interpreted as her having no identity or shedding her humanity.

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>>278573
>the scene where her face is being peeled
Reminds me of Junji Ito's "Layers of fear"

>>267693 (OP) 
I watched some playthroughs of Silent Hill after seeing this thread and I'm glad I didn't play it.
Seems like a pain in the ass sort of game.

>>278576
Junji is too fucking based to be adapted. My favorite one was Remina and the scariest was Gyo.

>>278579
Skill issue.

>>278581
>Junji is too fucking based to be adapted.
The anime adaptations were garbage, they were an insult to Ito's art.
>My favorite one was Remina and the scariest was Gyo
Remina e Gyo were but good.
My favorite one and creepiest was Tomie, to me still his best work.
Uzumaki is overrated, it had a only few good parts here and there (the first two chapters and the scar part) but most of it was just silly.

>>278586
*were both good

>>278582
it just doesn't look fun at all
I checked out Dead Space as well and it looks pretty shit gameplaywise too. So boring I just skipped to the plot points. Horrorcuck just isn't my speed I guess.

>>278586
Uzumaki could’ve been good if he took his time but he rushed it. He never attempted a long series ever since.

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>>278595
>Uzumaki could’ve been good if he took his time but he rushed it. 
The first few chapters looked promising, but then he started doing stupid things like the hair contest, those kids blowing hurricanes and knocking down houses, the two lovers twisting their bodies together, people riding the hurricanes.
That was some utter silly shit, the problem with those wasn't even the fact that it was uninspired material, it was just plain stupid.
Then there are parts like the one in the hospital that wasn't bad, but it clearly had nothing to do with the curse of the spirals and it felt like he shoved one of his short stories in between the rest just because he didn't know how to continue the story.
I, after reading the rest of his stories, left Uzumaki for last convinced that I was “saving the best for last” but in the end it did nothing but disappoint me.
I thought he was finished as an author by now, but then I read “layers of fear,” which in my opinion is one of his best and most disturbing stories, so who knows he may still have something to give.
However, I think Ito is at his best when he does body horror and gore, the rest is hit and miss.
>He never attempted a long series ever since.
That's probably for the best, at this point.

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>>278586
the souchi ones were pretty shit too, most of his longer stuff starts kinda creepy but still cool enough that you can suspend your disbelief and enjoy the mystery for a bit until becomes so fucking crazy and goofy that you forget you're reading a horror manga. his best stories were the shorter ones and the tomie series. with that said, the guy's still the best. if you like short stories I recommend "fuan no tane". it's a collection of very short stories more in line with traditional japanese folklore than ito's eldritch surreal shit, super creepy, good stuff.

>>278740
>the souchi ones were pretty shit too
I can't even consider Souchi horror, that shit feels like Doraemon or something like that, certainly not an horror manga.
How can anybody, or even Ito himself, think that silly shit is "horror"?
About Uzumaki, it still baffles me how it gets praised like Ito's best work when he did plenty of stuff that is far better than that shit.

>>278742
>that shit feels like Doraemon or something like that
that's a great way to put it, it was overwhelmingly goofy, especially that whole arc with the straw dolls

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>>278743
>that's a great way to put it, it was overwhelmingly goofy, especially that whole arc with the straw dolls
Some parts really did remind me of Doraemon, i kept reading it thinking: "Okay, but where's the horror?"
Basically Souchi is just an autistic kid, people remind him that he's weird every chance they got, he gets butthurt and so he plans a "revenge" that is supposed to be terrifying (in his own mind) but in reality ends up being some silly dumb shit.
Like the part where he makes that kid grow a beard. 
And the straw dolls was the silliest part, i agree.
>most of his longer stuff starts kinda creepy but still cool enough that you can suspend your disbelief and enjoy the mystery for a bit until becomes so fucking crazy and goofy that you forget you're reading a horror manga.
You just described perfectly how i felt about Uzumaki, at some points i thought "What is this stupid shit? Wasn't this supposed to be creepy?"
Thanks for the recommendation by the way, i'll check that out.
I missed reading horror stuff on the bed at night while listening to dark ambient, hopefully this "fuan no tane" will fill the gap left by Ito's stuff.

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>>275131
>The guys at konami know what to do, 
That's odd considering that they took over 15 Years to do such a basic thing and pretty much killed their second best option with del toro kojima and uzu.
>But the truth remains that without team silent there's no more team silent
No.  And the fact that it was originally a American town means nothing considering each game has nothing to do with each other besides dumb references.

>witty writing
Huh?  did I take crazy or stupid pills it's moon runes with editorials to make it make sense in engrish and most of them are dumb puns and metaphors that have usually have nothing to do with the story that idiots overthink.
Silent Hill died because a mix of factors the main being  western garbage took over the industry and Konami wanted to cut the cost of having Japanese devs and writers.
I don't really give a fuck that it's Sirentu Hiiru in name I just want  to play a game with an story by Ryukishi. the only reason they felt okay with choosing him despite his recent anti tranny truthnuke was because amerika gajins couldn't read it

>>278819
>spoiler
Care to elaborate?

>>278844
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