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>What's this?
A thread for the organization and development of a VN with minor puzzle/adventure game elements starring Libbie the Cyber Oryx.  Previous thread: >>168647
Thread 3: https://archive.fo/Wosxp
Thread 2: https://archive.ph/z17yE
Thread 1: https://archive.ph/9iIJW

>What will the game be like?
A simple, short puzzle/adventure game presented like a VN and inspired by old Flash adventure/"sim" games.  We'll be working in Ren'py, and the game will mostly be slice-of-life comedy and light romance with some cheesecake or ecchi.

>You've barely done anything in the last two years!
The GitGud repo needs updating, but despite writefag's periods of absence there has been solid progress made on character designs and illustrations.
- Base Libbie and XUE (the mouse girl in the swimsuit) have all their expressions done.
- Maff's expressions are mostly done.
- Concepts/sketches for Art and Kiki are mostly done and their designs are practically final.

>what can I play?
The most recent demo is for day 3: https://files.catbox.moe/zlm5fa.zip - there's also a Linux version: https://files.catbox.moe/c5cg72.bz2
The most recent script is for day 4: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/view/CUEED+Rote5DxIqRzBOzS2tkLMAuc25aiszokevm4fg/
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>>253354 (OP) 
Here are the art assets and organizational documents we have so far. I'd like to include at least one or two bonus illustrations for each character, some of which could be fairly lewd. My ideas are in the lower section of the spreadsheet with all the Xs but I'm open to suggestions.

Also, the outline needs to properly incorporate XUE as a side character, and T.T. as an alternate "bro ending."

To do:
- Update GitGud repo so that it has illustrations and links to documents/demos. It should function as a hub for the data and files that will be used in the VN.
- Continue making progress on character illustrations, especially for Art, T.T., and Kiki.
- Suggestions for bonus/lewd illustrations.
- Work on puzzle design and logic. The puzzles will probably be the last things to be added, but anyone who has ideas for designs/solutions can hammer them out now.
- Scripts for day 5 and the endings.
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And thank you to that one drawfag on capybarachan.org/kemono/ (formerly anon.cafe/kemono/) for these little doodles.
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>>253355
That first image gives me AAA studio vibes. "Artists, this spreadsheet is missing generic expressions, draw them", totally separated from context or what the game actually needs. If I were to make a VN myself, I'd just make half assed quick sketches and only finish them after I know what kind of emotions/poses I need.
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>cryptpad
>clearly posing as some kind of secure thing
>doesn't work without javascript with dynamic queries
>doesn't work without an iframe to a second domain
>has a 20 second loading screen
>doesn't work without a modern fully updated google approved browser
Just use a pastebin jesus christ.
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>>253591
>>253593
WARNING: This user has terminal GRIDS (Gay-Related Immune Deficiency). Avoid all contact and replying to their posts
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>>253594
This is writefag getting nervous and profusely sweating when reminded that he's the bottleneck for this project.
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>>253596
Fact checked false
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My review of this project: fun idea someone had long time ago that people think would be neat but that nobody really wants (especially post- niggerlibbie and male libbie and mommy fetishism and uncanny elf-ear art and some additional literally who fetish OCs and glacial progress). Still perpetuated by either some fetishists and/or people who want to connect with- or work together with people, and this is the only available way to do it, but not appealing enough to bother taking the reins and really pushing it forward, and nobody has the balls to just throw all the crap in the trash and spearheading the Libbie VN everyone originally wanted.
>>253598
Yeah, this is the first time I'm seriously looking at this project. And holy shit, the scope creep is out of control. They really should have just buckled down on the main character's route before they did anything else so there would be a guaranteed finished product.
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I thought there was only one day left to code in. What happun?
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>>253600
>They really should have just buckled down on standard Libbie only and called it a day instead of shoehorning 6 extra ones
ftfy
>>253598
>>253600
>>253601
yuo are samefagging because there is no way there is anyone this autistically obsessed with the project management of a silly imageboard developed game about a chinese oryx girl 

what next do you want there to be daliy standups on Slack :tm: using the Agile waterfall method where we discuss the status of the very prestigious libbie vn? will that stop you from having a melty?
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>>253609
>samefagging
This board has IDs, there's no ambiguity. If you don't want me to make multiple posts then lobby to the jschan developers and/or zzzchan admin to let me edit posts. Or would that be too Reddit for you? If yes then deal with it.

>daliy standups Slack Agile waterfall
I'm not the one requiring everyone to use some soy javashit web app to read your text file instead of just posting a fucking text file.

>what next do you want
Attractive characters and getting shit done. I get the feeling that people just accept anything that someone wants to put in because it's uncomfortable to say no to someone who's trying to contribute, especially when you're lacking in options, and since the project is becoming less attractive you have less people wanting to help too. That would be fine if this was some kind of RPG where anyone could add whatever they want into it.

I'm filled with enough resentment towards everything on imageboards that I'm just going to say what I'm thinking and I don't care if I burn down this whole thread in the process. Almost all other Libbie art I've seen is more attractive than these weird human-like loomis braindamage designs and fat mommy porn addict proportions. The art is decent in a vacuum but the artist seriously needs to learn how to stylize and follow a design and not impose his own fetishes/preferences on the main character of a community(?) project that already has a predetermined design. If he doesn't want to do that then that's fine, but in that case it would have been better for the project if he didn't contribute at all and left that spot open for other artists who are more familiar with animals and anime/kemono-style art. "That's just my opinion" though so if this is what you actually want then who am I to stop anyone.

And what the fuck is this stupid mouse character? The game is supposed to take place in a work environment so why the fuck is a swimsuit fetish character being added? Nobody wanted or asked for it, it's clearly someone's fetish and now someone has to put in work to incorporate it into the game and story that's already struggling to make progress. To be fair it was originally suggested as a "cameo" and that's fine, but it doesn't look like it anymore considering there's like 87 portraits for it.

I'm a game developer myself and I'm getting an aneurysm trying to figure out how this project is being managed this way. It's not appealing to contribute to this project because of how weirdly closed off it feels. Where are the scripts and art gallery and source code and to-do lists and instructions about how to contribute? Where's the outline of things that I can help fill in and polish? You'd think all of this was laid out front and center to make it easier to get an idea of what's going on and ask questions and start contributing. There's supposedly a gitgud but why isn't it linked anywhere? Can I even contribute to this imageboard project without a gitgud account? It's as if you WANT everyone else to just sit and watch, and if that's your goal then it's my misunderstanding. If I wanted to make something like this then I could start now and finish it entirely by myself before this project was finished, I'm half tempted to start Libbie VN 2.0 thread just to prove myself right and get this frustrating slog of a project off the catalog.
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>>253621
based spergpost, imageboards shall be reclaimed from retards like this, one passionate fit of rage at a time
>>253621
>I'm half tempted to start Libbie VN 2.0 thread just to prove myself right and get this frustrating slog of a project off the catalog.
libbie is a free spirit and if you feel you can do it better then I encourage you to go for it. Yes the art isn't the greatest but it was done for free by someone who set out time of their day to do it. not much else to say or comment on.
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>>253621
>I'm half tempted to start Libbie VN 2.0 thread just to prove myself right and get this frustrating slog of a project off the catalog.
Do it.
>>253621
post progress on your own project or go away
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>>253629
you say this as there has been any progress on this in a year
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>>253630
*as if
>>253630
The lack of progress from this thread shouldn't excuse his faggotry.
If you are gonna talk the talk then walk the walk
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<Hey guys, what's going on-
Ah. Well, I suppose a spirited discussion is only natural with a fresh thread.

>>253621
>This board has IDs, there's no ambiguity
If you sincerely believe that IDs are foolproof then you are either very naive or very stupid. A trio of (1) IDs saying the same thing in quick succession and agreeing with each other are more indicative of a VPN-hopping samefag than almost anything else.
(Personally, I do not care. I simply ignore people who fling shit.)

>soy javashit web app
I had CryptPad suggested to me as an off-brand Google Doc for text and filesharing, and I haven't had any problems with it that wouldn't appear on similar hosting platforms.
>text file
The script isn't a text file. The way I've written dialogue and laid everything out uses a fair amount of headers, bullet points, etc. and if I compressed it down to a literal text file it'd be a lot more awkward. Exporting it to a .doc or .odt file and just hosting that on something like Catbox or Mega would preserve the formatting but not be readable online, and I wanted there to be as few clicks between an anon and the script as possible.

If you know of a more practical way to organize all this that doesn't involve Microsoft Teams, I'd love to hear it.

>accept anything that someone wants to put in because it's uncomfortable to say no to someone who's trying to contribute
>since the project is becoming less attractive you have less people wanting to help too
The contributions of the artists actually increased after I stopped updating the script as regularly. Most of the expressions and design iterations for Base Libbie, Maff, and XUE got done because the artists wanted to have fun doing them. You could speculate that they did this because I was being a chronically whiny faggot and they needed to pick up the slack, but it would remain speculation. I do recall that there was at least one instance where the current artist got me to clarify something and was able to finish quite a few illustrations in a short time, so it's not as though the script being cold is totally preventing progress from being made in other areas.

Speaking of the script, I have frequently asked for input and suggestions regarding it throughout all the threads, and I get basically nothing in response from anyone (except that one guy who wants T.T. to be a secret tomboy). So if anons find literally being idea guys to be too much effort then I can't see how it's anyone's problem but theirs. Really, truly, I would love to have people shitpost ideas at me so I can just focus on tying scenes together.

>i don't like the art style
We had another artist (the same one who's contributed to Sleepy Station on the regular, I think) in the early days of the project, but at that time his skills weren't as developed and he clearly had trouble with cute, feminine characters. I'm sure a couple of the crab bucket faggots recognized him from the drawthreads and followed him here to screech about his abilities, which made iterating on designs tough. When Xx_BigTittyLibbieLover_xX stepped in and started doing a lot of concept sketching, almost everyone was happy except for maybe a couple one-off posts from anons who didn't substantiate their feelings. If the libbies look too buoyant for you then that's fine, but frankly I just think you're a homo.

>what the fuck is this stupid mouse character?
That's XUE, the representation of the XFCE desktop environment. An anon got going with her in the last thread and he was having a lot of fun so I wanted to encourage that by making her have a cameo or minor role in the VN.
Apparently the swimsuit was suggested by the guy in the drawthread who wants every girl to wear a swimsuit, but the artist did a good job with the design so I'm fine with it. I wouldn't really call a cute girl in a swimsuit "fetish territory" even if the guy who suggested it is obsessed with the idea.

>like 87 portraits for it
I initially thought there'd be about 9 expressions for each character, but after I'd written a few days of the script I realized there needed to be a couple more for full coverage. There was also a bit of a language barrier between me and the current artist since English seems to be his second language. Currently there are 14 expressions for each character, and maybe one or two bonus drawings if the artists want to make them.
Are you really at the point where you're getting butthurt about there being too many portraits in a VN? They're like the only art asset we have which get used more than once. Most of the Base Libbie and Maff ones are copy-pasted bodies and heads with minor changes to eye position (which is fine by me). The guy who drew XUE's expressions wanted them to be a bit more dynamic, so that's how he made them.

>weirdly closed off it feels
Yes, and that's my fault. I do have everything backed up and saved in a Mega folder which I linked in the previous thread, but I forgot to include it when making the OP. I also forgot to include scripts for the previous days (or just to link to the root directory with all individual scripts).

As stated in the OP, one of my immediate goals is to make either the GitGud repo or something like it a hub of information for the project and to make it much less opaque. Having to remake threads and update them is unwieldy compared to having a single golden copy of everything on GitGud.

>i'll make my OWN project, hah!
Sure, go for it. But much of your motivation will need to come from attributing to this project malice where simple retardation has occurred, and I don't think you'd enjoy doing that.
>>253637
Here's the Mega backup. Right now I just threw everything into it, but if it needs sorting later then I can do that.
https://mega.nz/folder/4GYFiQKL#mp2VvD2ndHM_5aZxKBKRfQ

And here's the GitGud repo. It hasn't been updated in a couple years since the codefag who ran it hasn't been too active. It's probably prudent for me to simply clone the repo from him and code it myself once I've gotten the script and game event logic worked out. I know how to work in Python.
https://gitgud.io/retardmetal/sleepy_libbie_vn

>>253601
>What happun?
Nothing. A whole lot of nothing, to the point the project has lain fallow for too long and the creative pressure we might have collectively felt is not at the PSI it used to be. But this can be fixed.
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>>253639
once the writing script is done, i'll probably code all of it myself, and i forget if there's minigames that still need to be added
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I wish you guys luck on completing your VN :)
>VN about loonix
>its fucking vaporware
Like pottery
>>253609
>more shit stapled to the ass of this project
God no. Anything but that.
I don't care who makes what, I demand libbie.
I want to make Libbie's cunnie all messie and runnie with a creamie load of my cummie.
>>253642
hey this guy looks pretty smart, maybe he should code the game
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>>253637
>IDs
I didn't check his replies so I assumed that all of them were to me, I did post 4 times almost in a row, 2 without reply links so maybe it looked weird. Can't edit posts so I couldn't correct myself after realizing.

>CryptPad, Google Doc, Microsoft Teams, script isn't a text file
There's a million ways to slice a text file. On one hand I may be the only one left who still cares about this stuff to this extent, but on the other hand I did start off in this thread trying to look into the project in case I could do something for it, and failed. I just absolutely despise all these fucking web apps that require me to use a specific browser with specific settings to be able to view it, especially if there's not a need for it.

>The contributions of the artists actually increased after I stopped updating the script as regularly
I guess I stand corrected then, although the previous thread did last almost 2 years. Is this the right time to mention that the project is over 4 years old?

>Apparently the swimsuit was suggested by the guy in the drawthread who wants every girl to wear a swimsuit
I didn't mention it but I know there's some autist who has been requesting something like this ("wearing a swimsuit and playing in the mud") for many years straight in every draw thread on every imageboard, that actually makes it even worse because he's getting a whole lot of validation and attention from this.

>Are you really at the point where you're getting butthurt about there being too many portraits in a VN?
Depends on context. For someone's personal fetish and an OC that came out of nowhere and that nobody asked for and that isn't particularly attractive (in the same way that Libbie is), if the artist draws them just for the heck of it then whatever, but from the outside it looks like this is being made into a more significant part of the story. Now, it could be fun if there was a pool somewhere that you could go to, and this character was almost exclusively found there. Or maybe the story does need more side characters to fill in spots anyway, I dunno.

As for the spreadsheet, I already expressed my opinion which is that I think an expression requires context. I don't know what VNs are typically like, but it strikes me as a poorly communicated development process that reeks of modern game development and outsourcing when you fill a spreadsheet with out-of-context generic expressions instead of saying "we need these expressions for this scene". More art = more better, but the art should be designed according to an actual need, and my personal experience is that it's much harder to make art when you don't know what it's for. There's countless different ways and reasons to express anger for instance.

>When Xx_BigTittyLibbieLover_xX stepped in and started doing a lot of concept sketching, almost everyone was happy except for maybe a couple one-off posts from anons who didn't substantiate their feelings
He's not a bad artist and it's maybe commendable how productive (relative to typical anon productivity or lack thereof) he is, but he hits a critical WRONG in his depiction of Libbie, it's basically an entirely different character. I don't know how many people actually like it vs not liking it, but most people who don't won't say anything because they don't want to be rude in this kind of situations and maybe can't even put into words why they dislike it, so you mostly hear the positive comments who'll probably also push back against the negative ones.

It's possible that he's the only one who's willing and capable of doing proper art so maybe it was inevitable, but it's also possible that there's been other artists who turned away because the art was already being done or they didn't like the art style. I noticed a comment FROM HIM originally wondering if he's needed because there was already an artist at that time. I've personally been somewhat interested at different points in time, either doing art or helping other artists tweak theirs, but you can't join now without mimicking his style because he's so far off-design that a more correct drawing would look like a different character, and when something is this broken it's easier to just say "start over" than try to fix it.

It would be too arrogant for me to say that his art needs to be replaced, but at the same time it's very unappealing if you know what Libbie is supposed to look like, and makes me not want to participate. The old artist was also way off, but seemed like it was mostly due to lack of skill/experience.

>If the libbies look too buoyant for you then that's fine, but frankly I just think you're a homo.
I associate the obsession towards fatness with blacks and porn addiction (that atrocious slut shirt on brown (note: brown, not black as per the original design) Libbie isn't helping), and "mommy"/"cake"-style character designs with infantilization and porn addiction (I've seen more manga and characters like this than I can count and it's always because you want to be treated like a child or a weak/inferior being).

There's a difference between making a sexy depiction of a character or emphasizing boobs/hips/butt or other feminine features, and projecting some gross fetishes on it. You can use "buoyant" or whatever retarded words you want to skirt around what you're actually doing but [fat] is neither feminine nor healthy. It's also not attractive in reality which is partly why I refer to it as a porn addiction thing, because when you're addicted to porn you start to steer further and further from reality and becoming more attracted gross things like sunibee donut anuses. If you want to make that then that's your prerogative, but then you can't complain when I hate you for taking the community project featuring the traditionally attractive Libbie and turning it into that shit.

>my OWN project
>much of your motivation will need to come from malice
I know, I'd stop caring in a few days and regret making the promise to dedicate all that time on such a project. I don't even know anything about VNs because the closest thing to one that I've ever played was some Flash dating sims in Newgrounds. If I actually started a community project then it probably wouldn't be a VN.

>having a single golden copy of everything on GitGud
That would be my feedback if I stop complaining for a second. I should be able to just download all of the everything from one link, read the scripts and browse things, tinker with the code, build the game myself and play it. There should also be instructions or todo lists or something included that help in finding stuff to do and how to contribute.

I hate mega because I have no idea what it wants out of my browser, it randomly works and randomly doesn't, it works better on my "outdated" browser than on my newer one but then gets frozen when the download is at 100%, I'd have to install chrome or standard firefox or something to access the files. Just give me a fucking zip you fucking webdev cucks, browsers have links and downloads built-in, you don't need to build a 800 megabyte web app for it. Be thankful that I'm not a dictator or I'd incinerate all of you and all of your family 5 layers up your ancestry to make sure this shit never happens again.

Anyway, where to put the files is up to you or whoever's managing them. Maybe mega is more comfortable to use, but Gitgud allows a direct .zip download that doesn't require opening/learning their bloated web app: https://gitgud.io/retardmetal/sleepy_libbie_vn/-/archive/master/sleepy_libbie_vn-master.zip
This revolutionary technology allows you to click it and have the file appear in your downloads folder.

>I have frequently asked for input and suggestions regarding it throughout all the threads, and I get basically nothing in response
I haven't been around during those times so I can't tell how it went, but from my perspective I really don't even know where I'd begin contributing from here. I feel very blind towards the project in a way, and I don't know if/what I can/should contribute. Maybe I'd just annoy the writer who has his own plans. That's why I'd want some kind of comprehensive to-do list or outlining of the project, ideally all in the same download. Maybe nobody feels like they're "in charge" so everyone's waiting for someone else to decide things.
>>>253658
>I don't know how many people actually like it vs not liking it, but most people who don't won't say anything because they don't want to be rude in this kind of situations and maybe can't even put into words why they dislike it, so you mostly hear the positive comments who'll probably also push back against the negative ones.
Ah yes, imageboards are especially well known for their userbase being very reluctant to share their opinions and never hating on things. Anons only ever speak their mind when they have fully thought out a well formulated response, and would never just call you a retarded niggerfaggot if they don't like what you're doing.
<Maff is fat
The only thing fat about her is her tits. The one who could stand to lose some weight is base Libbie.
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>>253661
>spoiler
In my niggar opinion base Libbie is wholesome enough as is, no need to mess with her mass or dimensions.
>>253661
People are far more reluctant to be harsh towards someone who's trying to make stuff, especially if it looks like they've put in a lot of effort. I've seen a lot of times when someone posts shit art or a shit game but everyone's on 100% sugarcoating mode when they talk about it.

I'm more in gamedev spaces than art spaces these days, there was one boxing game in particular that stood out to me because the dev was asking, on imageboards, what he's doing wrong since it isn't getting any attention. The only comments people gave were something about marketing, even though the actual reason is that his game obviously looked like absolute fucking trash to anyone who's played videogames before.
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>>253637
>Apparently the swimsuit was suggested by the guy in the drawthread who wants every girl to wear a swimsuit
No, you got that wrong.
The concept for Xue was that she was either a runner or a swimmer to emphasize XFCE's speed, see >>220425
The swimmer felt more unique than runner so it was developed further.
There's also the advantage that a pose with a swimsuit is easier to adapt to new clothes.
Still, she's more of a cameo, this striking change in clothes compared to others characters is something positive IMO.

Here's a concept of Xue in casual clothes.  But I won't invest into that until there's some good tangible progress in this VN.

>>253621
Hey, look!  The sperg is back.
It would be great if you used that energy to actually help the project but we all know you won't do that.
Bitching is easier.

>swimsuit fetish character
That's your new straw man?
If you think that tame one-piece swimsuit is fetishistic, then that's a problem with you.
Xue's proportions are fairly moderate, maybe even boring when compared to someone like Maff.
And your fetish argument also applies to the other artist that clearly exercised his gigantic breasts fetish.
I'm not saying this is bad, I like his style, it's very good.
It's you, the sperg, that is seeing a problem with everything for whatever reason.
Again, you can't help, you can't be productive, so you bitch.


>>253665
>everyone's on 100% sugarcoating mode
Strange, my personal experience was the opposite on every *chan.
Specially in these threads with the vocal spergman bitching about Xue.
A good artist knows how to absorb good criticism, regardless if it's framed politely or rudely and ignore bad criticism.
>>253676
>It would be great if you used that energy to actually help the project but we all know you won't do that.
it would also be great if you addressed any of his valid criticism instead of being a flustered bitch and taking it personally and responding with smartass unfunny zingers like a low IQ r/atheism redditor
but we all know you won't do that
>>253676
Responses to drawfags fall into two categories in my experience: people who lovebomb any content creator above autism.jpg level because they're terrified of scaring away OC creators, and crab bucket retards who actively try to scare drawfags away because they're either failed normalfags LARPing as puritans while whacking it to traps the next browser tab over or glowniggers actually getting paid to kill anti-semitic venues from the inside.
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Wait a sec, I think what that one autist always requests was "naked and playing in the mud". I feel like a swimsuit was related somehow and seeing that character triggered the association in my brain, but now I'm not sure, it's been a while.

>>253676
Bitching is certainly easier when I can't even download the files without first installing a new web browser.

>other artist that clearly exercised his gigantic breasts fetish
I didn't talk about him much because his art is not used anymore, but his art was very off-design too. I'm less bothered by big boobs because boobs are an explicit female trait (unlike general fatness), although I'd still prefer something closer to the original, especially compared to his art-libbie drawing. His art felt more fixable because it looked like it was off-design due to lack of art skill, not due to intentionally changing the design.

To be clear my biggest problem with the current artist's art is not that the characters are fat, it's that the entire thing doesn't look anything like Libbie. The hair is changed from curvy and stylized and multi-colored into simple straight human hair, the head is shaped like a human head instead of a flatter kemono head, the body is just a human with no sign of animal/kemono traits or even stylization that is characteristic of Libbie and the fat proportions just make it worse, the horns are tube-like instead of angular/jagged, the non-existent tail, the clothes and fashion styles are way more real-life-like and uncharacteristic of Libbie, the pale and brown color scheme instead of high contrast and black, there's no universe in which you didn't notice the completely different type of ears and their position.

And it's not because she's taller or more womanly or adult-like, but pic related is what that should actually look like. I'm not expecting anyone to be as good as Tyson-tan, but I'd imagine that if you wanted to dedicate a visual novel to this character then you'd at least try to look at this and follow the style, or at minimum the character design. It's currently neither.

>If you think that tame one-piece swimsuit is fetishistic
It's not about the swimsuit alone, I'm getting a lot of "this is someone's fetish" signals for various reasons that I won't bother getting into. I don't hate the character as much as I made it sound, but the complaint comes from a combination of 1. being combined with all the other things, 2. swimsuit character that (looks like) a fetish in an office environment, 3. potentially unwanted new characters potentially getting in the way of progress and throwing a wrench into it's direction, 4. the first and only proper character that is unrelated to Libbie and technically FOSS as a whole.

It might as well be anyone's mouse OC since the design and color scheme has no resemblance to the XFCE logo beyond the swimsuit being blue, which is a typical color for this kind of swimsuit anyway. The most unique detail of the mouse in the logo is a line under it's eye, and it wasn't incorporated into this design. Neither was the huge X which is the largest element in the logo (unless you count the hair which makes a vaguely upside-down V shape), I'd expect a kimono or a head ribbon or clothing decal or a hairpin or ponytails or something to depict that. Even if it's based on the logo, it's not a good translation of it into a character and thus feels like someone's personal OC being injected into this project, and the swimsuit thing isn't helping. I assume at least that is a criticism you're willing to absorb.
>>253683
That was a reasonable post, the point was better elaborated.
I'm the artist for Xue, so I can't speak for the others.  I hope my ID didn't change since the last post.

What bothers me most is 'why' you took so long to give this feedback.  I could've incorporated changes into Xue's design in earlier stages but now that her 14 poses are done and colored that you come around and give your opinion?

>swimsuit character that (looks like) a fetish in an office environment
Read that older post again.  Since she's a cameo, her distinct appearance make her stand out for the brief moment she'll be in the VN, that's not a bad thing.
In that post is the concept of Xue in casual clothes in case you didn't notice.
If the writer decides to turn Xue into a main character, I could provide the clothes change. But only after we see some progress in this VN first.
Finally, I was aware about clothes related problem since early on >>234582
This only proves that you didn't read the older thread and, as mentioned in the previous post, drawing casual clothes from a swimsuit is easier than the other way around.

>The most unique detail of the mouse in the logo is a line under it's eye
Exactly, that mouse in the logo is fairly generic which means any design could fit.
Xue has a simplistic design which fits with XFCE's minimalism, she also has a mob face which fits with the mouse in the logo.
Lastly, drawing a line under her eye would make her look old and tired, specially when the design is this simple.

>personal OC being injected into this project
What's the problem with OC created for this VN?
I designed Xue for this VN, there's no prior drawing of her in other context.
Also, remember that Libbie is Tyson-Tan's OC and so is Kiki.  They're both his OC but people have no problem with them but when someone else makes a OC specifically for this VN, suddenly it's a bad thing?

By the way, the introduction of Xue gave motivation to the writter.
>>251632
>Thank you for making all of these, and for reviving the thread with some genuine progress

Knowing that there are people that like what you do and want to be involved it's a great motivator in general.
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>>253683
>can't even download the files without first installing a new web browser
It's worked fine for me using a LibreWolf installation I haven't upgraded in like two years. Past a certain point you can't simply blame JavaScript.
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>>253687
>'why' you took so long to give this feedback
I haven't been paying much attention to this board in quite a while. I saw this new thread and got in the mood to check if there's something I could do, I saw the spreadsheet which triggered me >>253591 then I tried to open the script file and failed to get it open >>253593 then I didn't see a link to a github or any kind of meaningful resources or instructions so I just went "fuck it" and made a shitpost to complain (although mostly inspired by true feelings) >>253598 but then #b2b02d goaded me which caused an explosion of nerd rage >>253621 fueled by various ancient imageboard-adjacent frustrations including disappointment in this project.

>she's a cameo
You say that, but I'm talking about what it looks and feels like. Half the previous thread is portraits and extra drawings of her and she's in the OP image now so it looks like she's being promoted into being much more than a cameo. Maybe I'm the only one who felt that since I haven't been here for a while, but when I'm listing complaints this ends up getting thrown into the pile.

>fits with XFCE's minimalism
Minimalism doesn't make for a good design, it has an effect of emphasizing something else, but there's no memorable characteristics to emphasize other than the swimsuit which has no clear connection to XFCE or the logo. You can say that you took the blue from the logo and the swimsuit represents speed, but it doesn't work in the other direction; you don't see anything reminiscent of XFCE when you see the character, you just see a mouse in a swimsuit.
>drawing a line under her eye would make her look old and tired
You don't have to add it exactly as in the logo, it could be in the cheek or at the side or have a different shape or made by hair coming in from the side or something. I don't know if it's viable to just slap it onto this character though since it wasn't designed with it in mind. You could probably add X-like design/detail in the clothes somehow or have a retarded anime quirk like using lots of words with X in the dialogue and capitalizing them, e.g. "seXy and eXciting".

>What's the problem with OC created for this VN
It's not related to Libbie, it's your design rather than an official one or a proper community-approved one like Libbie or a community-designed one, it doesn't really look like XFCE, it's the only one, and it "wasn't part of the plan".

I feel like I'm getting derailed backwards from what I want to say, so I'll just say that it's not a problem if everyone wants and likes the idea of these characters and nobody is burdened by the extra work to add them. However, it would feel a lot less weird if there were a bunch of anon-made FOSS mascots (or even a bunch of other FOSS mascots), that way quirky OCs would fit in much better, but it's very strange when this kind of character is the only one that's not Libbie.

>>253688
There's a certain point where I stop disabling plugins and reverting configurations and just say fuck this AIDS.
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>>253689
>There's a certain point where I stop disabling plugins and reverting configurations and just say fuck this AIDS.
It's insane how dead set you are on pretending like 4-6 clicks in uBlock or uMatrix is like climbing a mountain. What's the freeware metatron? RFTM, faggot.
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>>253689
Nah… Xue's going to stay as she is.  Get fucked!
You're an envious and talentless moron who can't do anything but bitch and moan.
Let's remember your older posts: >>230229 and >>241415, sperging as much as now.

Have your ((( you ))) and some Xue art.
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>>253658
>I don't know what VNs are typically like
Yeah, that much is obvious.
>I think an expression requires context
>I've personally been somewhat interested at different points in time, either doing art or helping other artists tweak theirs, but you can't join now without mimicking his style 
If you wanted to contribute, you would have done so instead of inventing reasons that The Shadow Libbie Council would have rejected you. Going off-model in a VN? Most VNs are made by nocturnal anime-addicted shut-ins who can barely draw their own characters on model, let alone follow a style guide or imitate the giant tits style. You can tell this is the case because there is literally a second artist who has been drawing "off-model" for fucking months.

There are a grand total of four people working on the project: me writing it, two drawfags, and one codefag who hasn't been needed in a long time and isn't strictly necessary (although it'd certainly be nice to have him). There is nobody telling you that you cannot help or contribute, provided that you act like an adult and ask.

>schizo rambling about fat mommy nigger porn addiction
>>253683
>I'm getting a lot of "this is someone's fetish" signals for various reasons that I won't bother getting into
I can tell you're an expert.

>>253676
Thanks for correcting me about the swimsuit stuff. It's been a while and I'd forgotten exactly what your process was.
>But I won't invest into that until there's some good tangible progress in this VN.
I hope to have something meaningful soon once I've gotten things organized and made the GitGud repo into a central hub.
>>253729
I don't think that this anon and the posts you're quoting are the same. The tone is very different and the posts here are more of the genuine (if grating) autistic type rather than the spastic red text abuse and spurious questions in the older posts. So, while this anon is definitely a faggot, he has made a few much-needed points that have helped cut to the quick of the issue, which I appreciate.
So, with that autism out of the way, could the drawfag for Libbie/Maff/Art/T.T. report in? I just want to know if you're here, and if you're also holding off on drawing until I've made more progress with the script.
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>>253642
> i forget if there's minigames that still need to be added
I believe there is some boilerplate code for the fuse box puzzle on day 1, but the rest of them don't have any code or any design beyond "visual logic puzzle for art, word logic puzzle for libbie, math puzzle for maff".
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>>253946
this looks like an interesting thread, but it's too damn long. can someone give me the tl;dr?
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>257012
LOS 5 MEJORES MOMENTOS DE ❖ Ouyang ❖ Libi 💚🤍

5.
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>>257053
何を言ってるの、全然分からない
>>257012
- Project's been going on for too long and the creative fire behind it has stalled.
- The Git repo is poorly organized, making it hard for people to find out how they can contribute.
- One very autistic guy doesn't like the art style and big titty Libbies.
- Things generally need to be cleaned up and made clearer.
- Script for day 5 and the various endings need to be finished.
- Those scripts need to be added to the game.
- Puzzles need to be added to the game.

That's the off-the-cuff list of things to do. I've been busy job searching and I have an event coming up this week so that's taken up all my focus.
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>>257963
The fuck is that?
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>>257999
i will watch the sky as it turns to black
and i see the stars constellations map

where i need to be at this point in time
the lights are overheard
burning bright at night
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>>253945
I'm here(?), tbh, I've been away for so long because life and work got in the way. 
I dont know if you guys have replaced me or something.

If not, I dont know if I should just carry on as usual, because based on a lot of criticism here, you guys are talking a lot about redesigning the whole characters.
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>>263101
My vote is to ignore the fuckers. You have to commit to one vision for the project, otherwise nothing can ever get done.
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>>263106
Thought so, its been too long (my fault really) and too late to do a lot of changes.
>>257963
>>258491
the libbie vn is looking great
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i can't remember if i posted this or not but some Swedish guy included fucking Libbie and one of the 8chan posts verbatim in his DOCTORAL THESIS from 2022  (page 180)
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>>263222
page 171*

this is truly incredible
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>>263223
This was definitely posted in the last thread, but it's a good read so I appreciate you bringing it up again. I'm surprised that a Swede would copy language like fag, but perhaps he's just that disconnected from the outside world.
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>>263101
Ignore the incompetent, they can't create, they can't help.  The only thing they can do is complain.
I like your drawings and I suggest you focus on your style, the usual.  Finish what's missing as said in >>253355 spreadsheet.

>redesigning
Anyone suggesting this is only trying to kill this already slow project by procrastination and futility.
When this VN is complete, then we can think about redesign.
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>>263101
>I dont know if you guys have replaced me or something.
That's never going to happen.
>I dont know if I should just carry on as usual
You should. The only person criticizing you is some faggot who didn't bother to read the last thread. Nobody is talking about redesigning anyone, and we all like your style.

Please continue working towards filling out the rest of the expressions in the spreadsheet in >>253355. Any progress is great. I am still behind on my writing.
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>EGGS-face mascot
<is a fucking rat
This is why loonixtrannies shouldn't be allowed to design anything ever.
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>>264373
. It is pronounced X F C E as four individual letters, like K D E. I don’t  understand what you mean by this post. Why cant people never just be happy ever
>>263315
me wand do fug de mobface mos :DDD
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>>264892
Cuuuuute!
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>>264892
I want to stain that crotch hair until its all matted and sticky.
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>>265043
Finished version
>>265043
she's uhh.. a rat. Her whole body has fur dude.
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>>265045
You're so good to us, anon. Thank you.
>>265054
look closer
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>>265045
very nice rat dude. appreciate the artwork you do on here!
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>>253355
Math Shy and Scared

Give feedback and stuff. I will finish Laughing, Sad and Serious in a few days. Although I think Sad is already done? Its been a while so I dont remember what the problem was with it.
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>>265328
Ops, forgot the transparency
>>265045
>being a furfag
>>265328
I am just about to step out the door, but I will give feedback in the next day or so. They look good at first glance.
>>265328
She sure has long thumbs.
>>265328
>>265329
I want to cuddle with this woman.
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>>265328
Laughing
>>265373
Imagine laughing so hard you dislocate your own shoulder.
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>>265379
I don't know about shoulder but you could probably lockjaw if you laughed real hard
>>265373
Seeing her laugh in person would be amazing. She'd jiggle a lot.
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>>265328
Sad looks good. I'm happy to call that final.

>>265329
I'm really happy with how her left bicep looks in the Scared expression, but her right forearm is a bit too thin and her right hand looks weird. Her left hand also looks too wide, but the position of the fingers is good.

I think you need to redo her right forearm and right hand, and make her left hand a little thinner.

>>265373
I like the expression on her face, and her head looks good. However, her right pinky finger is too short so it needs to be redrawn.

One thing that I didn't notice in the last thread but which >>265379 pointed out is that her right shoulder sometimes changes heights but her boobs never move (except for Maff_Shy here). Going back and redrawing the other expressions to fix this would be a lot of work, and it is a pretty minor detail, so I'm fine leaving it this way. But it's something to keep in mind for future images.
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>>265432
Fixed I think, can you do some red circle to show where correction needed? I got lost which right and left
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>>265450
Her hands look better. Thanks.

When I was talking about the shoulders, I meant that if her shoulders move then her breasts should move too. Her right shoulder (that is, HER right. the one on OUR left) is usually higher. When she lowers that shoulder, her boobs should move too.

In Maff_Shy, one of her shoulders rose, and her boobs rose with it. But in Maff_Angry one of her shoulders went down, but her boobs stayed in the same place. I drew some red lines to show what I mean. Does that help?
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>>265452
Sorry, I also wanted to mention that her boobs look really good, and if you want to fix this problem then you would need to redraw them for every image where she moves her shoulders. That would be a lot of redrawing, so it's your decision if you want to do it or not.
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Also, this happened while I was saving files in Paint.net and I thought it was really funny.
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>>265454
Fukkin saved
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>>265328
>>265329
>>265373
>>265432
>>265450
>fat tits maff is back instead of endless bitching about her rack
Good shit, hope the VN goes somewhere this year.
In unrelated news, a /kemono/ drawfag has made a Libbie model for Project Zomboid.
>>265454
Lol
Oh hey, this project is actually still alive. Cool.
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Good news: I have gotten something resembling a job, which will last until the end of March and potentially springboard me into a real career.

Bad news: I have a lot less free time and I'm physically tired at the end of the day.

Good news: I care more about spending my free time on things that are meaningful to me.
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>>267300
are you the same autist from the land of steers and queers or is this a different writefag or am i fucking retarded and getting someone confused. 

i completely forgot this thread even existed
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>>267302
I'm the writer for the VN. I don't normally use the name field but I guess I got tired of prefacing my posts with "Writefag here."
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>>267300
>>267302
>>267327
This is an anonymous board.
Anyone can claim to be anyone, anyone can use the name field.
Assuming there's no tripfaggotry here, the best way around this is if the writer has a way to reach him directly.
Be a Matrix user, Shitter, Kikebook, whatever.
A method to verify what the writer is up to is necessary other than simple namefag posts.
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>>267330
no it’s not that’s fucking gay. no one should be setting up anything else that is unnecessary. the only reason I ask is because someone way back in 2018 was doing something similar.
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>>267330
You can reach me directly by posting in this thread. I've never done anything but say "writefag here" before and it hasn't suddenly become a problem.
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>>265452
Serious.
I think this the last one, and about the breast fixes, I dont think I cant redraw it again. I remind myself bout it for the next emoticon.
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Ops just notice the cleavage is lacking
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>>268191
She looks great. Thanks for your work.
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Have a bump with some art.
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>>269296
Cute and just a bit lewd. Very nice.
Bampu.
Where's the code for this game? The gitgud repo is several years old and I hate to think that zero programming progress has been made since then.
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>>275638
Is the dev anon even still alive? I know updates happen slow but it would be nice to know if at least the story will be finished.
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>>253354 (OP) 
OP please I beg you please please please draw Libbie pregnant. Pretty please? I need pregnant Libbie-tan in my life like salt and water. Every day that passes without Libbie-tan not being pregnant is a wasted day. Every day that passes without libbie-tan being pregnant is a worthless day. Libbie's pregnant belly will be our rising sun; it will warm us, comfort us, show us that there's still hope and beauty in the world. Libbie-tan being pregnant is like seeing that 2+2 still equals 4 in spite of the world telling you it's 5. So OP, I beg of thee, I grovel on my knees no kneepads, I kneel in a naked dogeza, please draw Libbie gregnant!!!!!!!
>>276063
I really hope he's alive. I'm looking forward to the next demo and the finished product. If any more assets need to be made I can chip in.
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>>282872
Personally, I lost hope about this project.
At least seeing this thread again motivated me for some art, hope you guys like it.
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>"okay, today's the day I'm finally going to get that git repo set up and organized"
>70 minutes of ping-ponging between Sapphire and GitGud
>20 minutes of fucking around with GitGud to see about setting up pushes/pulls securely
>"i should probably use an anonymous email address for this"
>20 minutes of fucking around with protonmail to realize I can't just add aliases like I used to

Cockmail got hacked in June so my burner addresses there are gone. Are there any good, persistent webmail hosts? I'll pay a few dollars per month to have something secure.

>>283529
Hope has been in short supply. I am sorry.
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>>285647
Never mind; pissmail is functional for now.
What do you guys want to be in the git repo to ensure the project is easy to contribute to and work with? My list so far is kind of basic.

New repo will have:
- .MD file explaining what the project is, basic details, goals, file tree
- .MD file with links to existing scripts on CryptPad (also available in master archive)
- .MD file with link to MASTER ARCHIVE ON MEGA.NZ (has all media in one place)
- .MD file with links to existing demos

- (spreadsheet?) file tracking illustrations
- to-do list with puzzle design and logic; provide basic context for each
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>>286379
Having the current master on a git repo would be a start. The latest code, demo v3, on the Mega archive is dated 2022.
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>>286390
>he thinks there's been a new demo made in 3 years
I have some bad news for you.
>>285647
>set up Sapphire.moe account
>log into gitgud.io using Sapphire account
>site tells me I need to set up SSH keys to pull and push
I followed the guide here: https://gitgud.io/help/user/ssh.md#verify-that-you-can-connect but when I got to the step about verifying your connection, I get stuck.

I run ssh -T [email protected] (or -Tvvv for verbose), and the command does send packets to the address. However, it then outputs this:
debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password
debug1: Trying private key: C:\\Users\\USERNAME/.ssh/id_xmss
debug3: no such identity: C:\\Users\\USERNAME/.ssh/id_xmss: No such file or directory
debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
debug3: authmethod_lookup password
debug3: remaining preferred: ,password
debug3: authmethod_is_enabled password
debug1: Next authentication method: password
debug3: failed to open file:C:/dev/tty error:3
debug1: read_passphrase: can't open /dev/tty: No such file or directory
[email protected]'s password:
The password for my Sapphire account doesn't work and I don't know what else to try. The fingerprints/hashes in https://gitgud.io/help/instance_configuration#ssh-host-keys-fingerprints almost look useful, but they aren't passwords.

I've been staring at the documentation for an hour trying to figure out what the fuck it wants me to enter. God, I hate computers.
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>>286419
Okay, never mind, it works now. I missed the line about adding the key to my gitgud account, so once I did that it prompted me for my passphrase. Nowhere in the documentation does it say to keep your passphrase but I was mindful enough to write it down.
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>>286420
Okay, I have successfully overcome my retardation and I can now pull, commit, push, and comment as I need to.
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>>286478
Sorry for the radio silence again. I got a job for a week and was laid off at the end of the week. Also I am a fag.

I am in the process of organizing things for the repo, which is currently up on my GitGud profile but not public: https://gitgud.io/GoatGuy

It's no secret that this project ground to a halt in 2025, even from what little momentum it had in previous years. I am truly sorry for letting you guys down, but I want to do the right thing and collect the script and images into a repo so that it can be accessed and hopefully one day finished by someone who didn't get burnt out on the whole thing.
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Writefag here. Okay, here goes. Sorry it took so long.
https://gitgud.io/GoatGuy/libbie-vn

Here is, to the best of my knowledge, the complete record of every resource and piece of information worth tracking about the Libbie VN. It has all the demos, all the illustrations, all the script, and all the outline documents for tracking what needs to be finished - which isn't that much, actually (code day 4, write and code day 5, write and code each ending, add puzzles).

Artfags, if you have contact info that you'd like me to include in the repo, please reply to this post and I'll make the necessary update. Anyone interested in continuing this project should fork the repo and start fresh from there.

I thought about writing every single little reason why I am officially stepping away from the VN, but I think it's all pretty obvious. I reached very far very fast, got burnt out, and wasn't able to recover in time to keep the creative pressure and steam in my heart. In hindsight, 2022-2023 was one of the worst years of my life for many reasons both personal and external, so it's no wonder that this project fell by the wayside. 2025, conversely, has been an amazing year for me so far and I feel several years younger than I did; it's like my good habits have been paying off and I've been flush with energy and focus that I was obsessed with pissing away in my early 20s.

I wish I had the drive to continue, but I'd be lying if I said I felt the same way about the brotherhood of image boards now compared to when I started the script. Something I found strange, for all the fun we were having, was the lack of anons suggesting plot twists or scenes or anything at all. I was under no illusions about me having to write all the script myself, but from my perspective it felt like anons didn't even care enough to shitpost about ideas. I now know myself well enough to understand that I benefit a lot from having some kind of back and forth conversation to hash things out and refine ideas. As time went on, I started to feel more keenly that I was simply evaporating my life force into the void.

Despite how this turned out, I had fun with you guys. We came together and made something fun. We got great art of various big titty Libbies, and for that I will be eternally grateful. But I just can't go on, and I'd only be bullshitting you if I claimed for the umpteenth time that I'd just be getting back to it any day now.

The doomposting niggers will be here in short order, I imagine, so I hope that those of you who have fond memories of this project will stick around and tell them to fuck off.
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>>290409
Not sure you realize but the official death of this project is one of the last nails in the coffin of this place. The zzzine is pretty much dead, and once the guy making the touhou mmd videos quits, there'll be truly nothing of value left that make this place worth coming to, like at all. Not that the admin would care, considering he can't even be arsed to fix his own site or celebrate its birthday. Nothing lasts forever, another chapter of the free internet and my life coming to a close I guess.
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>>290409
That's a damn shame. I pretty keenly feel the "evaporating your life force into the void" thing the last 3 years of my life but imageboard projects tend to wallow in ideaguy faggotry if one guy doesn't knuckle down and do the creative work with a single vision, which is why I personally didn't try to pitch in after the initial stage. I pray someone picks it up, and it might even be me.
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>>290411
I'm not so sure, frankly; as I mentioned in the post you're replying to, this project has been dead for most of the last four years.

As for image boards...
To be honest, the average IQ of this board has cratered in the last 3 years or so. I've gotten more fun conversations out of private group chats and alt social media like the fediverse than I have out of image boards. The fighting game threads from old 8chan have some of the fondest memories I ever spent on the internet, and some of that carried over to here, but now most of the posts are just the same group of 70-90 IQ retards shouting the same points at each other. The same is especially true of the news thread, or anything like it that prioritizes novelty. I don't think there's an influx of Indians and other subhumans, but it seems the beautiful open nature fun of image boards could only exist in the ethnostate that was the 90s-00s internet.

Things can't go on forever. This was a painful lesson to learn, but I have other things in my life to give it meaning now, and I've lived long enough to know what it looks like when the party has to stop. From my point of view, the problem isn't that things are ending, but that so few new things are replacing them. I'm trying to do more productive and artistic things in my life to hopefully make something that I can actually show people.

>>290412
>knuckle down and do the creative work
And honestly, I did. I wrote like 30,000 words in the final script document, making this the longest single piece of writing I've ever done. It's just that as I got further and further along, the points where I got that rush of community were rarer. It sort of compounded on itself.
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>>290414
Thing is if you give up the retards win. This is true of any community, not just imageboards, it takes active effort to keep the fires lit while being a boring retard is easy, and that's not counting the increasing number of schizos that infest places like /b/ and /pol/ like a poz load and take active pleasure in making everyone as miserable as they are.
>I've gotten more fun conversations out of private group chats and alt social media like the fediverse than I have out of image boards.
So you've found your circlejerk. Good for you but not everyone has that and it benefits no one else, which is why places like this are important.
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>>290415
>if you give up, they win
If I pour my lifeblood into a bottomless pit, they also win - that's the thing about people who operate on a fundamentally lower level: any acknowledgement of them from you is a victory because they made you spend time on them. I don't care about fighting schizos; I care about fighting the void.

>circlejerk
The difference between a modern image board and the places I'm describing is that the people who populate those places are usually more committed to their profiles (a notion I used to cynically call namefagging), and while that does make them arrogant it also means they have some momentum that lets them move forward. The ratio of creative people to anons has always been abysmal, but in the circles I'm part of elsewhere it's much higher. I just find it more rewarding to talk to people who have histories and futures when the alternative is some retard like that fag from the SKG thread.
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>>290420
Well, that's it then. Everyone pack up, nobody's allowed to have a community where you don't have to worry about not being invited to the cool kids table or getting disinvited due to something you did years ago, because someone might be stupid in your presence.
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>>290421
And yes, that is dismissive and reductive, but god damn am I tired of people just giving up as if fighting the slow creep of entropy was something new and arduous.
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Okay I'm going to commit the cardinal sin of triple posting to say: writefag, I know I sound angry, but I hope you do come back and share what you come up with here. That's what people used to do on imageboards, they would take what they did elsewhere and share it, people would respond in fun ways and they would take that and create something else. It's why "we" were such a cultural powerhouse. Just the other day I stumbled across a /tg/ thread from 2009 where someone strapped an Ork to a rocket he was already going to launch and decided /tg/ deserved to know, and from that he decided he was going to build a bigger Ork with that same rocket on his back as a tribute. The stagnation you see is from people like you dropping out of that cycle of input and output, not just shitposting. Even 8moe seems to get this, which might have something to do with why they have all the drawfags.
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>>290421
The people I talk to are rather absent of that behavior and generally chill, which is why I bother talking to them, but you can believe what you want.

>>290424
I'm probably going to sound angry too, but fuck it, you asked.

>/tg/
Funny you should mention that. If you were to go to the community reading thread, find the posts about Ironclaw (yeah, yeah, fuck off), and find the one which highlights the only Ironclaw campaign uploaded on YouTube, you would also find an anon who dug through the playlist of videos I mentioned to find a comment I'd left like a decade ago just so he could find the username of my YouTube account. Because he saw the screenshot that I'd taken with my username absent and decided that, by God, he had to uncover this meaningless piece of information and share it with the class, and thank goodness I'd recently changed it to gibberish so he couldn't connect any further dots.

You remember a few years ago when an anon who may or may not have been me had the gall to upload a Left 4 Dead webm to the webm thread and some faggot decided to crawl through the Steam accounts of everyone in that 8-second clip just because he could? Fucking insane, and people applauded him for it. I don't desire a circlejerk, I just desire to be free of this curtain hanging over me that something I say will somehow enable the lowest troglodyte in the world to FIND me for no other reason than he wants to.
>Behold! This self-styled compatriot of yours is no innocent elemental of air; he is a mortal man of flesh and bone! He recalls the past, yearns for the future! Watch as his corpus flushes red and rotten with traitorous blood!

I'm not going to go into detail, but in the last couple years I experienced IRL things that were similar - like one fucking faggot zoomer at a job training program decided, just because he could, that he would steal my contact info and have bots spam call me from randomly generated VOIP numbers. It isn't the Bush admin anymore, dude. Getting doxed for no reason and having 500 phone calls sent to my phone isn't fun. I was lying awake at night wondering if a brick was going to be thrown through my front window, and here you fucking are telling me to shrug it all off.

The social media panopticon is somehow preferable, because the schizoid autist panopticon is pointed at everything all the time, and no-life deadbeats can spend all their time reading every post made on this board, combing through it more thoroughly than any crawler bot ever could. I haven't dropped out of the cycle; I've been forced out by a hostile element that haphazardly targets me for reasons totally beyond my control.

To be honest I wouldn't have an issue linking my YouTube channel or blog or whatever, but some of that stuff is tied (however distantly) to my real life self, and I know better than to toss that particular piece of bait out here.

I hate that I'm even having this conversation with you, because you clearly have the self-awareness of a white man, but there it all is out in the open, okay? I'm not whining about the world being harsh or demanding your charity, I'm just telling you that the water is full of battery acid and I can't live in this pond anymore. I cannot pretend there is not somebody out there who would delight in making me uncomfortable. I just want some peace and quiet.
>>290430
There are faggots here who think doxxing is le heckin chan culture while not realizing they are its downfall. A guy painted a cirno rock and a guy snagged the geotag off of it. Kinda innocent and funny but the fact he felt compelled to tells you want you need to know.
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>>290432
>Chan culture isn't freedom and chaos
Go back to SEA or whatever shit hole in the states and never come back.
I don't use any social media except boards. I check into discord when I want something specific but I don't stick around and join the circlejerk. I just won't post anywhere else. Anonymity is freedom.
My opinion is to keep your expectations low, and you'll keep your disappointment low as well. People who use anonymity to showcase their worst impulses are missing the point. Anonymity is not chaos, newfags don't get this and thats why they need to lurk moar. But fags who act like this aren't anything new and certainly aren't going to be what kills IBs.
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>>290430
Some turd burglar from a certain imageboard I won't name also tried to dox me by sniffing my IP this one time I played during a game night and then went around saying "X lives here if you want to do something" just because he could, as you said. I know it was me because sometimes my ISP tunnels me through different parts of my country which geolocates me way off, and luckily it was one of those times. Also an IRL friend of mine who's way more tech savvy than me once figured out that someone in the past had attempted to scan for open ports on my network just around the same time the doxing attempt happened. So yeah that is to say, this kind of stuff is sorta part and parcel of browsing backwater places like this filled with obsessed, antisocial, mentally ill, jaded niggers who'll antagonize and try to fuck with anyone just because. God forbid you actually make the wrong autist angry, they'll dedicate their entire existance to hunting you like a real life terminator with schizophrenia.
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>>290446
I sort of get what you mean, but as the Farms proves leaving imageboards doesn't save you from that, it just makes it slightly harder to attract their attention. In fact, with non-ephemeral posting anyone who does decide to fuck with you has a longer time horizon to work with. It's not a reason to give up on what advantages imageboards do have, it's a reason for mods to not be fags (a challenge I know) and punish actual life ruining attempts, as well as for everyone to practice good data hygiene.
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Burnout sucks but no great artist ever expected feedback, engagement and praise until after their works were complete - they were driven by the inner fire to see the finished product for themselves and be proud of it. Also 30k words doesn't seem that much unless I'm missing something specific about the VN specific writing process.
>>290430
>Funny you should mention that. If you were to go to the community reading thread, find the posts about Ironclaw (yeah, yeah, fuck off), and find the one which highlights the only Ironclaw campaign uploaded on YouTube, you would also find an anon who dug through the playlist of videos I mentioned to find a comment I'd left like a decade ago just so he could find the username of my YouTube account.
I just checked the thread and nothing of the sort happened. It just goes straight to the next guy and his readalong. Are you ok?
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>thread derails into meta arguments about which particular breed of autist is killing IBs the most
See, this is why I didn't want to share too much of my personal history, but it was important I write at least a little bit for the artfags and other people who will check in later.

>>290449
>it's a reason for mods to not be fags (a challenge I know) and punish actual life ruining attempts
I agree that strong moderation and curation of posts can help - practically be a necessity some places - but if someone is really dead set on making other people's lives worse then there isn't anything an image board can do in order to stop that. It's all downstream of the people who make up a board's userbase, and that's downstream of the topic. /tg/ has always been the best board because it's a hobby board for people who want to create things, which is a stark contrast to /v/'s chaos and /a/'s calcified curation.

>>290451
Ah, you're right. It was another thread where the topic of Ironclaw came up, and which led to the Ironclaw/fuzzy animal thread being made. I skimmed through a couple QTDDTOTTs and meta threads but couldn't find it. You'll have to take my word for it.
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>>290453
If I didn't think it was a conversation worth having, I wouldn't have started it. It'll blow over and when someone else with the drive to finish it comes along, it'll get finished.
ok — just imagine, for sake of argument - that Libbie is 40 ft tall, and she picks you up and puts you in her sweaty, stuffy, nylons haha
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Finally, after what has it been, 8 years? Ms. Libby has a new design and is no longer a jobless NEET

I know this thread is kind of dead but I thought I would share. She looks very cute here.
>>291998
>Everything but the tail and head is covered
>The horns
Downgrade.
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>>292000
The horns are cute, though. :(
This was the previous iteration before her design was settled, much different looking then the original mascot design.
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>>291998
>anthro_full
HEH
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>>292019
But shes always had a snoot
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>>292024
Surely you understand the difference between that and this
>>292028
It doesn't look like that though!
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>>292028
I see no difference, bigot.
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>>292029
You're right I forgot a part, making her look like a wolf furfag instead of an oryx furfag. Still not a cute button nose, though.
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>>292052
>why is a furfag artist drawing a furfag oryx woman
this thread has been going on for so long that you have all developed fucking alzheimers

Libby can't ever win, can she?
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>>292053
Did this thread go on so long it gave you an extra chromosome? That exact artist always drew her with a flat head, no snout. He's the one that drew the image I edited, too. Yet now he draws her with her nose protruding half a mile from her forehead.
Do you want to pretend bronies would've been as much of a cancer upon the internet if their fapfuel looked like this, too?
>>292064
>Did this thread go on so long it gave you an extra chromosome?
Yes but that's besides the point. Sounds like you're just a nigger to me! 

Ms Libby's new snout maximizes surface area for kisses when compared to the previous button nose design.
This is a never ever "game" right?
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>>292064
>Yet now he draws her with her nose protruding half a mile from her forehead.
Wait, really? I guess the older she gets the bigger the snout.
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>>292053
If he can't tell the difference between Tyson's round face and a big ol snout then he probably does have Alzheimer's.

>>292064
What do bronies have to do with this?
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>>292083
>the difference between Tyson's round face and a big ol snout 
Did you not see the redesign we're discussing? That's a snout you blind nigger.
>What do bronies have to do with this?
The fact that they thirsted over characters with small, rounded noses instead of a literal horseface, and people liked Libbie with a small button nose instead of a fucking snout?
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>>292088
But she looks so cute! 
>>292070
more like "No Snoot, No Game: The thread"
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>>292092
(to add on to this)
My only complaint is I wish he had kept the cyber / robotic elements to her design. It's inevitable that someones art style is going to change over the course of a decade, and it's nice to see her repurposed for something else rather then being obscure IB trivia and discarded into the waste heap. 

People were bitching all the way back in the day about her design being too much furfaggotry, so if someone doesn't like something there is really no changing their mind. She's literally suppose to be an Oryx woman. It's hard to communicate something like that without animal-like features, and it's actually one of the things the initial set of icons for LO didn't do a good job at. It was more ambiguous as to what she was (deer? goat? antelope?) and an "Oryx" isn't really a common animal. 

Also there is nothing stopping anyone from working on finishing this VN project. Libby is still in the public domain, after all.
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>This is the 2025 redesign of Libbie the Spirit Oryx, a key character in my original project “Spirit Animals in Disguise“. She serves as the head teacher of the main characters. This article looks back on Libbie’s lengthy design process, highlights the various transitional versions that emerged over time, and elaborates on the final design concept through individual images.
Its a redesign for a new project.
Still would all her forms.
Can anyone download the full res pics of link related? https://www.deviantart.com/tysontan/art/Libbie-the-Spirit-Oryx-ver-2025-1249017603#image-1
>image resolution is too high. Width*Height must not exceed 100000000
Fucking hell, just go to the website and grab the full res of libbie 3 forms.
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>>292103
>animal form
Fug I didn't think my brony comment would be this relevant
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>>292103
I thought this shit died a long long time ago.
>>292111 (checked)
Anyone have the full pic of the second pic?
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>>292114
I gotcha.
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>>292111
If it was overtly sexual or pornographic, it would be weird and gross. But it’s not. It’s something directly relevant to the story.
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>6,000,000 hours in gimp later...
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>>292132
I'll take these two.
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>>292132
Classic and 100% Kemono for me, boss.
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>>292171
>a animl cnt consent 2anything
Neither can a woman but we don't talk about that either unless it is to mock the absurdity of no means yes and yes means no  I don't think it could get gayer
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>>292172
>no means yes and yes means no
For your information it's no means yes and yes means anal. Do any and every thing.
>>292160
Just for you I'll pick the oryx and classic.
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>>292115
1>2>5>3>6>4>7>8
>>292115
You want to know the funny part? The Best option is just a girl with fake animal ears.
I remember years ago an anon suggested a couple particular vaporwave albums for BGM and I foolishly did not save them. I looked them up in the previous threads and couldn't find any mention of them. Does anyone know what I'm describing?
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>>290409 
I only checked in here a few times but this VN was doomed to fail because everything had no standards and no real plan. Even when the 'limit' was set at 3 versions you suddenly have Xdmouse that's making a bigger cameo than Kiki - when kiki and Libbie were the original beloved dynamic for antics. Since you were the project leader it fell on you to make the call for taste and you absolutely failed on that front. Instead you just let people have free roam for their own off-model giant boobs or off-topic OCs that added nothing of substance.

People here don't even know (or like) what Libbie looked like, and none of them took a single bit of valid critism that their fetish was shit and just left the gate open with any content better than no content. >>253621 nails a lot of the issues with the that defeinitely put people off from helping because it was a bunch of secondaries here. 

The Xdmouse looked like a resource drag piling up, and while they were productive... the drawfagu never drew anything except Xdmouse making their entire prescence a waste of talent and misdirected energy but you were too much of a weak willed faggot to tell them to do something else. 

It doesn't even look like it fits in and muh cameo isn't an excuse. Tyson's designs all had a unifying element that they look like they're cyb-mascots that's why they work well together like Kiki/Libbie but Xdmouse just looks like a generic furry design in a swimsuit, there's nothing that says tech in the entire thing and being lefast swimmer is not enough. It is peak irony that people were lapping up that dogwater and then turn up their nose at Tyson's fresh mana. It's not to say that XDmouse can't work without more tweaking, but furry in a swimsuit aint it. 

>>292019
>>292083
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>>292028
The snout was always there, it just wasn't always visible. But since you can't rotate the apple in your head you don't understand what stylistic-exclusion is (Eg: anime) and think kemono is not kemono if it has a snoot or not. 

Which just highlights a problem with the whole direction was just skewed for fetishfags but not even close to good source material. Whether or not you had big offmodel tiddy Libbie or swibbermouse. Drawfagus never studied the character designs, and people here were only doing fans of a Libbie VN in name which was largely hallow. Libbie always had off-model fags like bchan who was the first one to push big-tiddy off model but it still had some resemblance instead of bland and uncanny colored humans with long ears stapled on.
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>>292103
THE ACTUAL ORYX IS TRASH, AS IS THE HUMAN. Gimme the kemono/anthro one here DAMN!
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>>302237
Some years ago in the threads ai images of Libbie was posted and it was brought up she was too hyperniche so ai was acceptable. The arguments then were it always looks like shit and ai lora was shit then, but theres a new lora now that totally btfos the old ai and the artists besides Tyson here obviously since he designed her. 

Hell even the off-model Libbie gens people make with this lora are still more on-model than anything posted for the VN with elf-ear human-nose abominations. The lora is for the classic one which has a snout but tards here can't handle that fact. Since this thread is in it's ashes, there's nothing stopping use of ai to ressurect the VN if they aren't even going to do the bare minimum and stay on model.
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>>302235
>off-model giant boobs
Lmao, faggot.
Reason it failed is the same reason the overwhelming majority vidya dev fails, nodev and actually finishing shit is hard and takes effort.
Add unto the fact that anonymity removes most accountability/responsibility from any group project and it's a miracle when any vidya project on an imageboard actually gets finished
>>302246
Oh, and the fact that the site/webring's population has declined considerably over time definitely hurt things too.
>>302238
>Libbie is anthro
>This offends anons that dislike that sort of thing
>Elf ear/human nose abomination
look I get furries are degenerate double niggers but if you're gonna use a gal with a design like Libbies, may as well get over the fact she's an Oryx. 
>>302246
Libbies tits in those are barely bigger than what she actually has, at least her tits ain't the size of her head. Surprised you didn't comment on how giant her hips are.
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>>302246
>off-model 
Is there really an on-model libbie? 

The artist himself has drawn her in many different styles.  And I think this argument is silly, either way, as you can draw her in any way that you like. See the images attached as example. Each feels like a stark contrast from one another. But both are identifiable as Libbie

I feel it would be be better to just draw her in your own way than going off of anything else. If this project isn't kill, that is.
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>>302269
I was (sarcastically) quoting his post.
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>>302269
Yes nigger there's on-model Libbie because if one Lora was trash and another Lora is gold that means there's some obvious design ques that are important. There are clearly people who understand what makes Libbie, Libbie and some of the less skilled are better at depicting than the 'more skilled' titfag. Even in Tyson's revisons there are similarities that are generally always-present.
>She always has long and interesting flowing hair with inner green ending in a triangle tip. (A callback to office doc triangles, not half-assed neck shoulder length cut like in the VN)
>She always has white smooth skin and green eyes (one of the only things the drawfagu got right). 
>She is almost always wearing black pantyhose, pencil skirt and heels (office lady nod but was also libre office colors) 
>Her feet almost always end in points (office lady heels and/or kemono hooves)
>She is always a kemono orx with offset nose. (not a human nose bridge with a button-nose sticker on the end)
>She is almost always wearing a white jacket or labcoat (which harkens back to being an office mascot, a white-open document. Not Discount Libbie office-lady cosplay)
>She always has horns that are predominantly straight angles or end in straight triangles (Not all curves and tubes)
>White/green/black scheme is used dominantly, but also in accents and trim on her ears or clothes (green-black-white or black-green-white. Not white-green, white-black and then fuck it)
>She always has kemono big ears high on her head (Not uncanny hybrid ears that come out of the sides of her face)
>She always has kemono small nose and face structure with big eyes (Not human-face human-proportion eyes.)
>She always has a kemono tail, usually a trianglular shape (harken back to triangle design language of libre office. Not no tail for plebs)

If you notice almost all of the above is still kept in tact even in the newest version and looks really good. >>292103 The VN drawfagu however missed the boat hard on the majority of these because he was a total retard who doesn't understand Libbie at all. He doesn't know she is kemono, her personality, or what kemono even IS with his human-nose ending with muh buttonnose with human ass eyes and as already pointed out the elf-ears he gave every version look terrible >>253598 

All criticism was generally ignored just like the other XDmousefag and both plowed onward in tunnel vision of yes-man circlejerk. But changing Libbie as much as in the VN is like redesigning Mario without the classic redshirt and blue overalls, then making him a muscle man or a stick instead of a fat plumber. 

She had an iconic appeal to /tech/ even when she was just trianglespam. Unlike XDmouse which is just a skincolored furry in a swimsuit for fetish. There is nothing here that was even resembling an attempt at preserving Libbie. What the VN OP put his stamp of approval on was a stiff and very soulless imitation. It looks more like design by committee, removing all sorts of aspects about her--to appeal to normalfags even if it's just one fag's idea of Libbie it gives off a We have Libbie At Home vibe. and unironically when the VN started years ago it looked more like an actual fans of Libbie and it's only been downhill since, even if the 'skill' went up by changing to a different drawfag.
>>302281
i like all of the libbys they are very cute including math even, who is a nigger
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>>302281
Yay Libby
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>>302281
>there are clearly people who understand what makes Libbie, Libbie
Nigger, this whole VN was basically an extended meme shitpost based off a rejected kemono mascot idea for a niche open source office product, and somehow your level of autism about it exceeds everything in this thread thus far.
You've somehow invented some sort of pseudo-canon in your autistic brain for this character and projected it unto this game.
On that note, its funny you blame the project for this when you had plenty of opportunities to show up and do your own thing better than the people on the project and actually make it the way you think it should've been, but instead you harangue from the sidelines when literally any change in interpretation or style would probably have set your autistic ass off and you'd have found some shit to complain about even if it had followed your autism to the letter.
For example, you found a way to complain about the office lady get-up for a fucking office product mascot and say that a fucking jacket or labcoat fits it better, this is just straight up retardation. Its understandable if you don't like something (I don't care much for OLs myself) , but pretending like the previous one fits her concept better because "office documents are white" is just dumb, the OL idea is a perfectly valid idea and interpretation that makes plenty of sense for an idea like this.
You know who wears labcoats? Scientists.
You know who cyberpunk-style jackets? Certainly not people you would imagine using office products.
Get over yourself fag, your opinion is derived entirely from grandstanding over anything you can find to complain about. If anything fags like you probably caused plenty of damage and time to be wasted in projects like this because there's always some unsatisfied autist who can find minutia to whine about.
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>>302281
>pic 4
man, looking back, the worst skilled artfag's libbie was the most wholesome and soulful of the bunch. easy to say in hindsight but >we were too judgemental and harsh about his drawings and should've just stuck with that one instead of the mommy milkers hyper fetishized ones despite the fact the artfag was objectively better at drawing.
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>>302285
You can like all Libbie (there's no Y btw) but what's in the VN is not Libbie, which is magnitudes worse than Maff libs. They had years to do something more true to Libbie and never fucking bothered. The project was a clusterfuck of fags working in isolated bubbles just working on their own thing instead of bouncing ideas around (their own fault expecting mindreading), drawfags being stubborn bratty children like XDmouse.

>>302287
And you can't read. People did give neg feedback, it was ignored due to yesman faggots like you who just can't handle any boat rocking and just scream LET HIM COOK BRO. Her original design by Tyson is already 90% office lady, it's not the issue. I don't care about office lady usually but Libbie is a whole package deal, what I care about is that it doesn't look like Libbie and actively took away from her appeal. The laziness and arrogance with the resistance to changing bad designs, and inserting worse designs to that I say welcome to game dev going back to the drawing board is common especially for concepts. 

On the note of designs there's ai edit tools that already existed for years that would cut the workload down to probably 1/10th like nano banana, where you can do the base style and then do ai riffs and refine it back and forth. But people would rather get nothing done, at glacial pace, or go backward with less appeal more normalfag milkers. This isn't even a new workflow, people have been making SillyTavern cards with ai edited expressions like a poormans VN almost since nearly the beginning. 

>>302288
I agree he was the best here, he knew what Libbie looked like and could do more than just project fetishes onto paper. This VN didn't even know what it wanted to be, it has contradictory messaging from the OP that there would be porn at some point? but then in-game they keep mentioning they don't have the capability for pornographic material while filling it up with tits in your face and ass. Pick a side, being a fence sitter is gay.
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>>302291
Nobody cares about your autistic post-mortem where if they just listened to you, the game would've totally been perfect I'm sure. Saying how easy and obvious things are in hindsight amount to nothing. 
Its also hilarious to me that you keep throwing around words like "fetish" as a pejorative when the concept from the beginning was kemono romance. You just don't like big tits, which is fine, but its stupid to try and claim it as some objective wrong.
You want to talk contradictions, your whole post is full of them.
>fetishes are bad
>pandering to "normalfags" (as if there ever were any here) with big tits is also bad
>make her more appealing to hardcore furfags please, human features are bad
You want to talk about picking a side when you routinely rely on social stigma with labels to reinforce your subjective opinion to make it look more like fact when its still ultimately just an opinion. 
You just wanted your fetishes pandered to instead. I'm 100% confident that the "neg feedback" you're referring to was just you complaining in the past about the same bullshit you're doing now.
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>>302291
yay Libby yay !!!
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>>302294
You're obviously some clueless secondary when you think "make it like Libbie was intended to look" is pandering to furfags. Just as much of a clueless faggot as MrTiTs's post about what is or is not kemono. She's already in a banner as a kemono. 

Out of all the drawfags over the years, Mr.Tits is the one that was most far removed from her design, >>253658 that a shitpost still looks more accurate to her. >>253358
>but you can't join now without mimicking his style because he's so far off-design that a more correct drawing would look like a different character, and when something is this broken it's easier to just say "start over" than try to fix it.
This was true, and we see XDmouse copying the terrible non-Libbie elf style of the VN in the OP.  >>253354 (OP)  incestual degredation, by being in an echo chamber of faggots who don't have a standard of what a mascot should look like. 

The 3d Libbie is once again kemono (what a shocker, a kemono is kemono) and way fucking better than what we got. Even the animated creepypasta 'ghost' like Libbie was a better job and recognizable as Libbie when she was s nearly all silhouette >>257963

>He's not a bad artist and it's maybe commendable how productive (relative to typical anon productivity or lack thereof) he is, but he hits a critical WRONG in his depiction of Libbie, it's basically an entirely different character.
>it's very unappealing if you know what Libbie is supposed to look like, and makes me not want to participate. The old artist was also way off, but seemed like it was mostly due to lack of skill/experience.
Can you answer why is it that 3d fags, lower skilled drawfags, and pixel fags all know what Libbie looks like better than the ones who are in charge of making the VN? You should do some self-reflection instead of just eating ass and lashing out at furries in your walls. VN-Libbie is a rejection of Libbie out of denial, in an insecure overcorrection that loses the whole character.
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>>302296
>The 3d Libbie is once again kemono
ill post the model if you want it its a .vrm i found and converted to a .blend file, dont have access to the computer with it rn tho

i was making an actual game but got busy
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>>302297
Sure go for it, I don't see any archive of 3d Libs anywhere and it would be good to preserve even just as part of the legacy. I'm sure people could do traceovers and would be infinitely better than tits human Libby.
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>>302298
i think you are still being tooharsh, they volunteered their time to draw stuff for ded silly image board project and in return all they wanted was to add fat tits

That seems fair to me
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>>302299
People have done big tit Libbie before, go look at saifag(bchan)'s work and you'll see someone who actually knows how to draw big titty Libbie since he knows what kemono style actually is. 

I have much less care for sugarcoating when these faggots had years to fix up the design and was ignored >>263106 everything but telling them to keep doing what they were doing. 

Looking at the game files 20mb of art pose assets is nothing by the way, 90% of the poses are rehashed just changing around some limbs or expressions. So it's laziness, on top of incompetence and arrogance. 

Yes all they wanted to do was draw fat tits, and thats what they did. No actual care into what design elements to keep in mind. That is why I will keep repeating that it's just for his fetish, because he didn't even bother to try to make it look like her and brushed off everything he could to improve it. Maff's tigerstripe top is an eyesore and making it intentionally so doesn't make it any better since it's permanent.
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>>302300
this conversation is just gonna go in circles forever
>>302300
You are yelling about free art for a dead game. Shut the fuck up, nigger.
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>>302302
I guess you missed the part where no one asked for more elf-libby with negative appeal.
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permanently banned from libbyborea
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>Banned for holding them to their word
Hmm, nope. Titsanon and OP wouldn't even adjust the snout distance for the VN, ALMOST FOUR YEARS AGO which was the most minor shit and still looks like shit. Where was the revision and polish because muh everything should move forward? Forgotten it ever was said. Oh no that's too hard, better not do anything at all and settle. 

>Gemini
I see you img2img'd, but unless you wrangle it's style it can attempt realism which may be uncanny valley.
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>>302306
y,ou are the worlds most conceited nigger over the modt autistic shit possible ever, i hope a fat titted liby smothers you to death
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>>302307
>Sperg out over gemini advice
Par for the course for any 'creator' here.
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Anyone have a list of games with libbie in it?
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>>302303
>no one asked for
So which is it then? Normalfag pandering to the normalfags who didn't exist? 
Pick a side, fenceshitter. :^)
>>302309
>a single sentence mocking you is sperging out
>not your multi-post walls of text diatribe about the most minor details setting off your furfag autism
You're right, the reason this game failed was because of snout distancing. 
Future developers would learn greatly from your genius plans and how you've figured out a meme fictional animal mascot's canon anatomy down to the nanometer.
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>>302316
It failed because it was false advertising by some passionless fags who couldn't even bother to use a reference or care about the source material. While you did nothing for years the lora already put out something that looks like her in ONE DAY since it was mentioned. >>302310

It's far beyond just the nose placement, the whole face is humanoid and distorted into a box when her features are more squished from the nose to chin. Look at the cheek bones in the art from anyone besides titsanon, they're a VERY prominent part of her and totally absent in the VNs anti-appeal style.

I feel like I'm in a classroom of special eds, I shouldn't have to say things like human features is not kemono. The VN skewed heavy towards human and abandoned kemono, while claiming it was a kemono romance. Nigger what?
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>>302318
>source material
Wew.
Imagine treating a single guy's drawing from forever ago for an open source mascot idea as some kind of holy gospel that cannot be changed at all.
Did you forget what one of the biggest advantages of open source is? The idea that you can take it and change as you see fit?
If the guy who came up with Libbie's concept wanted to make a VN, he could've done so himself, but I'm sure you'd have found a way to argue with him and say
>that's not REAL libbie
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>>302318
Kill yourself you dumb fuck.
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>check back in on the catalogue
>wow, the libbie thread was bumped with a lot of new posts
>look inside
>more sperging from the retard from the last thread, who has now developed AI brain poisoning and whose grasp of English deteriorates with every sentence
>he's going through archives of four-year-old threads and highlighting individual sentences

Writefag here. Regarding all the screeching and bellyaching, I thought I made it pretty clear that the reason I stepped away from the VN was due to personal burnout and frustration. If there's anyone who wants to take a crack at the project or just mess around with the assets, go right ahead and do it; be mindful to ignore what faggots like our local schizophrene have to say because they aren't people.

Remember, anons, that the cure to chaos and lies is not mere truth, but Beauty. You must make something beautiful if you wish to stand against the tide of entropy and fight the doxa.
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>>302364
You were a writefag with no passion, and you still can't take anything but pity party or praise. Own up to your failures faggot.
>I'm here, just being lazy.  Sorry, but it's the cold truth.  I've been struggling to manage my free time in the last couple months; I have been successfully cutting down on my time spent looking at porn and jerking off, but I'm kind of substituting that time for time spent playing video games or watching cartoons.
30,000 words isn't anything to cry about burnout, when there are countless autistic fanfics that are several times larger written by one person. Just admit you had no passion.
>Thanks so much for working to make XFCE-tan a reality. I will make sure to have her cameo in the VN once I figure out what to do with her.
>writer-kun Yeah, I'm here. Bad news: I haven't touched the script in the last few months, nor have I seriously thought about the structure of the VN.

With a drawfag with no passion for Libbie, only for tits.
>Almost zero revisions, ignored criticism, no appeal, did not even reference the character, does not know how to draw kemono while working on a kemono character VN.
>Response from thread: noo don't bulli my mommy milkers artist

With another drawfag with no passion for Libbie, only for XDmouse
>"A good artist knows how to absorb good criticism, regardless if it's framed politely or rudely and ignore bad criticism"
Who then went on to say this about being criticized their design was shit
>"Nah… Xue's going to stay as she is.  Get fucked! You're an envious and talentless moron who can't do anything but bitch and moan."
XFCE-tan already existed btw, and was a better take than the skincolored trash in a swimsuit you fawned over. 
>Here's a concept of Xue in casual clothes.  But I won't invest into that until there's some good tangible progress in this VN.

With a coder with no passion.
>"It hasn't been updated in a couple years since the codefag who ran it hasn't been too active."
>"Currently waiting on the completed version of Day 4 and Day 5 of the script to implement in the VN."
>No minigames added in the meantime to do something instead grind everything to a halt and wait for the passionless writefag who jacks off and plays vidya.
>In 5 years they are still placeholders "something something here"
>Turning on the newest version of the game there is still no new sprites being used for emotions despite being done, making everything as sterile as day 1. With TT the only one with placeholders that actually change.
>Map not revised

Spare me your whining about ai, If you have passion then ok you can cook, but if you have no passion then do fuck off, because the lot of you you did more harm than good waiting around for vaporware that went as well as broken kickstarter promises with bait and switch. If Ai can do better then it's better than waiting for the whole team that ghosted the project years ago. The only thing people can say about the VN was that it was free, so at least it wasn't a scam but you accomplished nothing.
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>>302347
I know Libbie is open source for any depiction since Tyson said you can do whatever, but your defense for the faggot obsessed with tits is hallow. It isn't that she can't be changed, it was a community effort that made Libbie art when she was first posted on /tech/ as just the logo submission, and yet nobody except this one hugebreast fetishist came along drew Libbie that badly that it is unrecognizable from the one in the VN. 

That there are depictions of her that are shit like in the VN and depictions that are huge tits but still look like Libbie from saifag. Tyson's many versions of Libbie is more like how Nintendo treats Zelda iterations, but like Zelda games there are fundamental parts of them that make them "this character, or from this world". 

The essence is kept in tact following the same rules. >>302281

>>302287
And sorry to inform the blind and retarded who keep insisting that there is no coherent design to her, but Libbie's outfit is objectively based off the Libre Office Doc icon. If you thought this was a random choice to discard you're in the same mindset as titsforbrains

This is the reason she has the flared out jacket in triangles. This was way more obvious in the first versions and tone down but not as much in your face as HEY SHES WEARING THE ICON, SHE IS A LIBRE OFFICE MASCOT GOT IT!? But this black triangle of the icon IS why she has sharp black triangles or bold black parts throughout her design. It's not pretentious, it's just recognizing a design language and that titsfaggot was not even on the same planet as Tyson or everyone else.

>>292103
The newest Libbie is very much a different character, "the spirit oryx" whatever that means, instead of "the cyber oryx" is his desire to distance himself from tying Libbie to an officelady. But even though the shift for her was huge,I can still recognize it as Libbie a shit ton more than whatever inbetween human - uncanny homunculus creature the VN used. 

And it's one thing to have this as just few drawings on the side by someone who vastly overestimates their design ability and appeal, it's another entirely different thing where it's forced down the throat that this is how the VN is going to look, by some faggots who doesn't know what Libbie looks like and none of the charm. 

There is an asinine bizzaro world sense of unearned elitism huffing-your own ass reddit like double-think behavior that this thread still demonstrates. While banners of how Libbie looks exists, and Libbie reacts as part of the board culture. But then to get on a soapbox over furries because of muh snout suddenly and we're so much better because we're kemono weebs (but not really you're just fucking retarded faggots and you were just angry hipsters, rallying around shitty inferior versions with artificial in-group 'culture' much like Pissyellow Anon. 

You padded yourselves in a bubble just like not knowing XFCE-tan already existed and showered praise for a hyper-generic fetish inserts that had nothing to do with either Libbie or XFCE.
schizodrama thread; sage+hide
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>>302378
Pretty good points, not sure why they seemed to have triggered others in this silly thread.
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>>302378
>libreoffice doc icon
This might be the dumbest fucking logic to defend a design choice I've ever seen. A document icon is literally the most generic and basic shit ever, they are all almost entirely identical.
Your level of autism is honestly astounding. At this point its just fascinating to see how messed up your head is for this character.
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>>302378
You type like an unwashed faggot. Insert your head into your ass and suffocate
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>>302386
>having a robust debate is autism
The actual problem with this thread is it has nothing whatsoever to do with video games.  (No, visual novels aren't video games.)

>>302391
>>302393
>agrees with a someone who disagrees, must be samefag

>>302398
>too much words, make brain hurt
Anti-intellectual faggots like these posters are everything that's wrong with this board and, frankly at this point, the whole idea of 4chan alternatives being better than that cesspool.
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>>302400
You aren't fooling anyone
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>>302394
>Claim all document icons are the same
>Ignores the very icon used is not like the one used in Libre Office
You honestly have brain damage, like most of the enablers here your brain just shut off over big honkers and you clapped like a seal, now you're trying to cope for the fact you are a plebian nigger who doesn't have a clue on what he's talking about and just keep barking about muh autism like an inbred mutt which does nothing to refute the points that are now going to be further cemented.

The Libre office icon drove the shape language from the beginning, it's piss-easy to extrapolate her shapes from it and see where Tyson first was inspired to go with an oryx, unlike your random icon you found as a 'gotcha'. I'll even do it for you, since you are a mental cripple and cant see the apple in your head. 

Character design is inseparable from shape language when it's actually good enough to say something, the fetish faggot who ran the art into the ground has zero skill in shape language. AND IT SHOWS SINCE HE DID EVERYTHING WRONG, AND DIDNT USE ANY FUCKING REFERENCE. While Tyson and many other artists are speaking in shape language, you and the boobslolfaggot cheerleaders have the equivalent understanding level of shape ebonics. Get schooled, you dumbass nigger.
>>302429
how, d oes one become this autistic bro
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>>302432
AI-induced cranial rot enabling the worst sides of the human soul to be prodded and grown like fruit on the vine.
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>>302434
Hey shitforbrains hack writer who jerked off over a non-mascots like XDmouse. Newsflash the criticism of the design still applies even without your brain-off ai boogeyman scapegoat. I wasn't the only one bringing it up and they would still be accurate even if I never brought up ai. 

It's hilarious to see you sling "cranial rot" coming from a faggot who had nothing of value except waow moar fetish humans please! Mommy milkers and swimsuits yes yes!

But it's nice for you to just have a convient way to not engage in the fact you were engaged with something that was objectively bad. The very fact you talk to placate and side with someone just keeps parroting "durr autism" instead of taking any points into self-improvement shows how stunningly bad of a leader you were.
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>>302437
why be mean when y,ou can be nice instead?

maybe try drawing libby or something the way you think it should be done
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>>302429
I just invented an OC for you, it even incorporates Libbie's original design and shape language!
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>>302437
I greatly dislike the art of this vn but I still think you are a sperg who is taking things a bit too far.
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>>302441
>Just be le nice
Would you be nice if you were served shit on a plate, then other non-sapients around acted like it's gold because it was free?
>We got great art of various big titty Libbies, and for that I will be eternally grateful. 
That's from mr pityparty writefag, who dragged his feet and went to jack off for years. Great. eternally grateful for some uncanny garbage no Libbiefag wanted, straight to the digital recycling bin. 

Excuses to never improve, leave everything dogshit, and keep kicking the can down the road that it'll be fixed another day totally bro (but it wont ever because the whole team is passionless like the faceberg writefag/normalfag). That's weak do nothing procrastination mentality, blame everyone else while they do jack shit for the VN. The entire dev team was like this (sans the first drawfag who did his best)

>Wahh I don't have the time. 
Bitch please, SnootGame was made in a year while these did fuck all for 5 because they were all lazy faggots.The character designs were already there, just like Libbie but they didn't pull a jesuspainting on it with dunningkruger flowing through their blood to fix what wasn't broken. They got something actually finished, had transitions, all expression sprites done, had a ton more backgrounds, and made their own full art scenes. There was more active efforts in the /tech/ threads to make oc than this threads snail development.

Why should I go along to get along with secondaries who think something is untouchable because chimps get hard over it rallying for "titsanon" with dick-in-hand that he'll deliver their tits fetish and don't give a fuck about Libbie. None of the people know the fundamentals of the characters they're saying they are here for? 

That sounds like going into an oriental restaurant with imitation food and high-fiving each other like it's the real thing. I'd rather people be honest it was FAR below sub par and nothing to be proud of, since nobody actually tried--it was all half-assed top to bottom. >>302377

>Make some Libbie yourself
I may after out of spite. 

>>302448
>I greatly disliked it
Good. Not liking uncanny is normal, pretending otherwise is abnormal like a brain dysfunction. Uncanny gives you a sense of revulsion.

It would be better off if she had a bag over her head and then you don't have to endure it. But then if you're doing that, you may as well just go fap to a big breasted mannequin like boobsguy and the chimps, since the face is the most important part in the identity of a character (one he fucked up royally on)--those fundamental problems in the VN can never be resolved to be Libbie left as is. 

>Taking things too far
Nah. I'll just point back to the post at the top some other anon with a clue made, (who was correct and ignored) years ago. You have to come to terms how badly it fucked up if you ever hope to do better. Writing a couple paragraphs is not enough. >>253621

>What next do you want
>Attractive characters and getting shit done. I get the feeling that people just accept anything that someone wants to put in because it's uncomfortable to say no to someone who's trying to contribute, especially when you're lacking in options, and since the project is becoming less attractive you have less people wanting to help too. That would be fine if this was some kind of RPG where anyone could add whatever they want into it.
>Almost all other Libbie art I've seen is more attractive than these weird human-like loomis braindamage designs and fat mommy porn addict proportions
>The art is decent in a vacuum but the artist seriously needs to learn how to stylize and follow a design and not impose his own fetishes/preferences on the main character of a community(?) project that already has a predetermined design
>it would have been better for the project if he didn't contribute at all and left that spot open for other artists who are more familiar with animals and anime/kemono-style art.
>Not appealing enough to bother taking the reins and really pushing it forward, 
>and nobody has the balls to just throw all the crap in the trash and spearheading the Libbie VN everyone originally wanted.
>but then you can't complain when I hate you for taking the community project featuring the traditionally attractive Libbie and turning it into that shit.

The OP gave free reign to the worst Libbie-face artist of all time who can't do kemono, and can't draw Libbie's face but keeps saying it is her with a generic busty human slathered in paint in a bad costume. 

Unlike him I don' t find it arrogant to say throwing it in the trash is a must if the drawfaggot will never change his unappealing style.
Truly a pitiable existence, too bad you didn't end up doing anything yourself years ago when you first started these complaints, eh fag?
Its not like you spent the last 2 years still whining about the same criticisms after saying you could totally do it faster and better while contributing nothing, that would be embarrassing.
>>253621
>If I wanted to make something like this then I could start now and finish it entirely by myself before this project was finished, I'm half tempted to start Libbie VN 2.0 thread just to prove myself right and get this frustrating slog of a project off the catalog.
You couldn't possibly be one of those kinds of worthless fags who spends his entire life being resentful of others and still accomplishing less than the people he criticizes.
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>>302462
Typical defensive in-group caveman tier thinking that everyone who disagrees with fundamentally flawed bad design is a samefag. You're cut from the same genetic cloth as XDmouse who did the same over his hypergeneric XDmouse in a swimsuit fetish
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>>302463
>everyone who disagrees is a samefag
You aren't very bright, are you.
How big do you think zzzchan is?
How big do you think the revolving community of this thread is?
What are the odds that 2 people who talk the exact same way about the same topic, and have the same criticisms, with those factors in mind, are 2 different people?
Then again, expecting accountability out of a peanut gallery autist is a bit much, since your tard-wrangler wouldn't be involved.
Its not like if you ctrl-F "fetish" in this thread, it would just be you and you from 2 years ago-
Oh, oh wait it would.
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>>302464
>No one could ever use fetish when the art is clearly driven for fetish
You are completely retarded, and once people have no self-awareness to call someone else "not very bright". He was right, and the porn addicts he talks about is people like the writefag and dumb mongs who don't know what she looks like, they just want fat tits. The threads show it as plain as day, just a bunch of horny dogs using "Libby" as proxy for their fetish.
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>>302465
yay libby yay
>>302465
This is just sad at this point. I feel pity for anyone who had to waste their time reading your posts in the past without knowing the sheer depths of destructive, useless autism behind them.
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>>302467
You've gone from doubling down to tripling down insisting da same fag if they use a word that's accurate. Oh look! Even XDmousetard agrees that the other artfag was just fetishbait. You probably have a condition, are they a samefag now because they used the word? Let's see your double think in action.
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>>302468
Yay libby yay
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>>302469
No, bad dog. no Libby there, only xdmouse. 
No treat for you.
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>>302470
there is nothing anywher,e 

only the endless folly of man and autist that leads to suffering

the serpent will eat its tail and the cycle will begin again anew
>>302447
Let's review for the arctic IQs in the room like (You)

>>302429

V1
>Tyson's first go. And even with everyone on /tech/ becoming instant fans of OG Libbie it stems from a problem of visual noise. It really is too much. Trying too hard to incorporate the icon as a character. With triangles everywhere of white, black and green. 
>From the dress cutout to even the shading it's just a mess. Even her hands are nonorganic sharp angles.

>This version locked some things in stone, like her general color scheme of white/black/green that the pencilfail couldn't even get right. 
>V1 is also when her lashes are made with triangles which will be a permanent part of her design going forward. 
Personally I always found the coat to be way too busy with the triangle flared coat collar and the dress is still good enough with her face tails and heels, but it is still far more interesting than hooters-office humoid-ibby and part of the design people think of when they think Libbie because at least it was trying. But it did lock in her simple but striking color scheme (the one that titstard saught to 'improve' by making it generic)

V2
>Tyson learned his lesson with his contest loss. Unlike XDmouse and drawb00bz he could recognize that maybe his design had glaring flaws and like /tech/ drawfags he simplified it significantly, even more than the drawfags. 
>But there are parts that were always kept like the green heelspikes, the hair made out of triangles, and the black triangle stripe in the hair - a detail that's usually glazed over by other drawfags who opt for black trim hair instead. 
>From V2 onward he started toying around with different emphasis and see what worked and may have oversimplified compared to v1 which was overly noisy.
>The triangles on her coat are very de-emphasized this time and her triangles on her head like her oryx horns and instead emphasized.
The erotic oryx is reborn. Nothing wrong with this, it's a huge step up over the first in terms of readability but could still be improved. From v2 onward Tyson is just continually trying out new ways to do Libbie and keep the essence of her, green and black triangles are always present, as is her white colored clothes. Every single LIbbiefag on the planet except the ESLtitstard knew if you're doing Libbie she should  be wearing white and black. 

V3
>It's clear this was an attempt to fix the major fuckups of V1. He still uses heavy triangular posing as V1, the clothes are triangles stacked like the flared cuffs but it is way less noisy. especially the hair which was a total clusterfuck in v1. 
>Most of the issues are resolved, and he's just playing with different ways to use the shape language from v1. 
>The fact the open mouth is triangular, as are the teeth is just one of the intentional things people glaze over when they're low IQ boobbrained and just draw human noses and human mouths. 
>Libbie's body shapes are more stylized, from her very angular calves heels and tail. Even the cloths she wears is full of hard angles but her hands are not
>This time around he was returning to chibi Libbie with small horns, and wanted to emphasize big oryx ears even more so than V1. 
>The green triangle hair returns and he goes harder into officelady this time around giving her a tie. 
There's nothing wrong with this one either, the only thing I can say is the tail looks more like a bunny than an oryx to me but whatever she's a cute kemono with lots of energy and draws attention to her hips like v1 except it's not lost in a clusterfuck of white. This is more 'erotic' than v2 but infinitely better than tittyanons smearing his shit all over the canvas since Tyson  maintains the character.
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I'm surprised to see this thread alive but not surprised by the sperg beating a dead horse.
Anyway, more art, gone but not forgotten.
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>>302842
>Still doing the hideous hybrid ears 
Learn how to draw kemono you stupid westoid. No kemono artist on the planet does this shit. Only you and the ESL titsthirdie decided to keep going down this retarded path and your brains were turned off the entire time just thinking about the rest of the body to jerk off to.  It doesn't matter how much you polish it up, it's still a turd with fundamental problems. Saifag was south american but actually learned how to do kemono for a kemono character - what a concept

>Look guise I drew XDmousefap again, praise me and clap!
Newsflash your suggestion was shit from the start. It had nothing to do with Libbie or the office, just suddenly swimsuit fetish nothing character that looks nothing like it represents XFCE who's logo is a black mouse, why is this tanturd skin colored mouse brown??. There's no pool in the office, so there's a negative chance to run across swimsuit fetish oc. The more you draw it with Libbie the more forced it gets, and it doesn't matter if you keep drooling all over the paper saying xue xue xue! stimming in the corner. People at least had something to work around with when /tech/ drew Kiki and Libbie together, there is still fucking nothing interesting about swimsuit fetish oc as a character dynamic or even a character by themselves. 

>New version of standing around
You took half-assed criticism, it looks more like Libbie, attempted anime eyes and hair but you refused to fix the biggest problem. The face. Both of you tacked on animoid features on a human that don't belong on a human like the ears and face structure so it will always look like shit. You're still drawing anime human freaks of nature and then slapping le kemono stickers over their face and patting yourself on the back. Stop copycatting bad design

Both of you are the mentally challenged kid who look at the round hole and think square peg goes in. It's closer to a squished oval with the cheeks being the widest part. not an elongated rectangle with a fivehead you blind retard. You've obviously never seen Libbie before you barged into the VN thread, pissing all over the place with XDmouse. Just a secondary feeding a secondary in a reddit circlejerk. Even the low effort pixel icon put more effort into looking like the character. Not looking like a soulless mannequin with stickers on, the one that the writehack used for his git icon and then proceeded to have amnesia over what Libbie's face looks like.
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>>302916
I don't necessarily agree with all your points but I like your passionate attitude and wish more anons were steadfast in defending their ideas like this
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>>302919
There were 'people' who defended the trainwrecks, but their defenses were shallow and paper-thin which couldn't stand up against any real criticism, only empowered by fanboy fapfaggots. 

Remember when people said the tits were too big and fetishfags and drawtard just forced it through anyways? I 'member. But people just expect everything to be unchangeable because the drawtard is doing it for free. 

Why does mouse-swimsuit have tan skin? Because they're a lazy uncreative fetish faggot and just thought copying 90% gadget would work and still goes mind-blank over the ears being high on gadgets face to avoid uncanny valley that both fell straight into. This is the kind of special olympians that surrounded this project, who think they know better than decades of successful animation design elements. 

They just want to pretend like they're making their mark and it doesn't matter how objectively a piece of shit it is, it's their STYLE... so it must be good. "Look at this garbage oc I made, everyone loves my swimsuit fetishbait. I am important." Not one time did this tool draw a fun interaction with Libbie, it's just posing solo and standposing with Libby. Pukeworthy attention whore XDmouse like the drawfag behind it.
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>>303102
3rd one with no ears looks like a sexy cyberdemon, and I like that better than whatever the others try to be.
>>302919
Don't encourage him to write another ten thousand words about how other people are wrong without doing a shred of productive work.
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I'm honestly more offended by Xue not having any sort of light blue theming than any of these other shitty "interpretations" of the Libreoffice mascot.
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>>303102
>Pregnancy fetish
Is the idiot going to bitch about this too or it's his thing and gets a pass?
So when does this shit release? Asking for a friend who is me.
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>>303216
It's getting bundled with Star Citizen.
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>>303229
>raytraced gigaLibbie with hyper-realistic milker fluidics simulation when the game doesn't crash or turn (You) into a tennis ball and deletes your stored inventory
Yeah I don't have $50k to spend on jpegs I could get for free including the AI-generated 3D models.
>>303134
>No counter arguments, only hurr autism and chef meme
Pathetic.
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>>303255
>arguing with some fag who believes his opinions are fact
Only a retard would do that
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>>303258
>Fact: A bootleg furry in a swimsuit is not a XDFE mascot, even if the artard calls it Xue This guy gets it >>303146
>Fact: The devs knew what Libbie looked like, and it was pushed aside for fetish shit insert to ruin the VN. The coder was one of the only OG Libbiefags and lost interest because it wasn't a Libbie VN. 
>Fact: The fetishfag arturd did not and could not take any critism of its bad decisions. His go-to was to reject people pushing back on his shitfetish and when brought up how badly he fucked the design his first thought was to quit instead of fixing it.
>Fact: With an intentional effort for it to be "less bland" the ESL artoid  made it more bland and generic. 
>Fact: 'People' ITT cared more about their own fetish being represented than being true to the character. 
>Fact: The LORAs prove there is a consistent design, one that the ESL didn't even bother to follow. And 
Snoot Game did everything better, didn't fuck with designs of the fans. While you have nothing but dick-in-hand over boring and shitty assets for 5 years they have a full game in 1, with mods included for extra characters.
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>>303269
Nothing to say about that preggo AI pic? >>303102
Your fetish gets a pass but everyone else is bad?
And hey, you can generate drawings with AI now, why aren't you taking over this project?
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>>303270
I didn't gen that you fucking retard. 
The preggen is obviously this guy, >>302310. Who uses the the same harsh lighting shading style with humanish features mixed with heavy robo parts. The more human face doesnt look Libbie, but the rest is still more effort than either drawfaggot put in. At least it put the ears in the right fucking spot. And she actually has long feminine hair instead of that weak ass shit in the OP. 

The faggot couldn't even get the shade of green right the OG had more vibrant green, there is NOTHING that he did that improved the design it's just boobs on a bland freak. 

Back to the prompter. Humanoid Libbie is his own fault not putting kemono tags in or being a retard using the wrong base model when it says to use for Illust. >>302238 because the Lora is obviously capable of it. 

Fetish or safe content, the fact is that the Lora can do something that looks like Libbie and the other from the drawfag is a shitty imitation-meat version.
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Imagine passing off slop as art.
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>>303292
Wow it's more non-argument boogyman negative IQ reply instead of self-reflection. Imagine not being able to recognize a character's defining traits. Kill yourself faggot.
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>>303284
I didn't claim you generated those pics you absolute retard faggot, learn how to read
it's the fact you didn't call out that fetish while shit talking everything else

You hate the drawfags, the aigenfags and the writefag
you didn't draw anything, write anything, prompted anything
No wonder why everyone in this thread hates you

i'm glad this project is dead because having a sperg like you doing nothing but talking shit at everyone must be tiresome.
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>>303293
If you keep saying buzzwords, eventually, like a mating call, you'll summon another autist to come and type out more buzzwords to try to counter you. Then you can both fuck and finally stop being wizards on an imageboard.
You should shout about this in public rather than in your room so society can remove you quicker.
>>303295
If you can't understand the difference between forcing some shit into the VN for everyone to have to endure vs some random art/gens then you are a troglodyte.
>you can't criticize the chef unless you're in the kitchen
>you can't criticize a video game unless you make one yourself
>you can't criticize art unless you draw something yourself
Genuinely shocked to hear this moronic fucking fallacy on this webzone.  What a pathetic level of discourse this community has devolved into.
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>>303299
>/v/ is one person
>not saging
>>303299
The "criticisms" are excessively vitriolic and show no intent to cooperate or coordinate, entirely aggressive and antagonistic. I think it's from spending too much time on the internet, it hampers your ability to communicate and criticize because you don't socialize like a proper human being with some degree of respect for the guy across the table. This sort of talk is closer to redditor behavior, an activist's mindset who can only communicate through insult and can't argue. It is a peabrain approach, some mentality that the only way to communicate is by being as critical and insulting as possible because it's an anonymous imageboard and you can do that and get away with it, only no one wants to argue with a spastic retard except for other spastic retards.
Instead of sperging out and complaining, go make something. Go make it for people who don't want you to make it, for no benefit except your own personal satisfaction. That'll get you off of here, making you do something productive and allowing people to talk to one another.
Or post it to /b/, where people will even more freely call you a faggot or ignore you, then your thoughts can fade away into the ether.
>>303302
Hey, whoa, buddy, that kind of reasonable level-headed opinion is not welcome in this thread.
>>303302
I'm surprised you guys have learned to avoid reddit spacing.
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>>303302
The irony of you talking about reddit behavior while you use sage as le downvote is palpable. Genuinely who the fuck would want to make anything for secondaries who can't even admit they went so far off the mark, they drifted into something entirely divorced from the concept of the title and only jerk eachother off in an echochamberchan thread, dismissing everything they can under blanket bullshit like muh autism and muh samefag. 

What this project was was just some faggots who wanted to overrule the core concepts of Libbie then calling it a Libbie VN, and then patting each other on the back while they work in isolation on their own bad ideas. The idea of Libbie as your boss is already more boring instead of the dynamic with her as a coworker officelady, and mashing together 6 different potentially interesting Libbies into 3 bland ones was also shit. Saifag drew Libbie as tall big boobs as a contrast to flat and small Kiki and there is no contrast in this. 

The antagonism is entirely deserved. It's completely retarded to think you'll get any kind of character arcs from a 5 day story that the writehack couldn't even bother to finish, only giving excuses every time. 5 fucking days (the first "day" is barely even that, just serving as a halfassed intro, and then he couldn't even finish that.) To go from being shoved into a new job is more like a VN demo, a scopebloat demo with trying to do so many Libbyroutes and they're all shit with no development, spread thin with no depth I've seen better effort from a Snootgame mod. Only throwing in some scraps of /tech/ and LO with lepenguin while butchering the rest.
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>>303453
It's been three days. You made any progress on your game, yet?
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>>303462
>expecting anything out of a sperg
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>>303462
Replace the word 'months' in pic4 >>303453 with years and you have your VN. 
>A bunch of anons from /v/ arent even 10% and it's been over 5 years or so.
All you've done is be apologist tools for hacks, who repeatedly did fuck all and would never budge from their bad ideas. I haven't promised anything, unlike the hacks who overpromised and dragged their feet stringing people along for a glorified demo. By this metric I can just do nothing for 3months until I deliver 1 piece of something poorly done and expect only praise. 

At this point Libbie fans (read: not secondaries) would get more enjoyment out of a chatbot made in a week than trying to salvage this slow motion jeet-being-hit-by-a-train vaporware, and you have people who would turn up to bemoan over muh ai doing better instead of having dogshit cobbled together because of your fragile egos. Even ponyfags did better with their chatVN plugged into API - infinitely moddable with character sprites, customized experience and backgrounds. 

Instead of waiting around for a hack who jerks off and huffs his own ass about "Reasonable opinions" and only replies to posts that agree with his worldview, and to ignore that the devs they kept around weren't hacks when they still are. Member when the first drawfag was going to be the writefag and codefag because the rest of them were doing fuck all? I member. Maybe you need a reminder how much of a faggot writehack was even in the FIRST thread which should have the most momentum. 

>Muh I'm not getting paid, so I dont care
>Muh errands 
>Can't take criticism for being a lazy fuckwit.
>Progress? yeah nothing :)
>Sorry buddy, I got other stimulating things (ie: jacking off) besides Libbie to do.

There's no other reason other than being in a reddit-circlejerk ingroupie that anyone would defend this fucking faggot.
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At least we got some nice OC out of it and a free sperg to raise muh PPH so all is well with the world.
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>this is the only gamedev-related thread left in zzzchan
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Maybe I can try to do a headcount here.

Would anyone here be interested in working on some project? Like hypothetically, if it was better organized than this and easier to contribute to, more appealing and loose visual style, not a VN, would you be interested?

I've been interested in doing it for a long time, but I always feel like there's not enough people left who care.
>>303504
Count me interested. I don't really care what it is but I feel like working on something for a change.
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>>303504
Two years or so ago someone made a thread asking people to submit doom maps for a doom map pack project, I think it was called ouroboros, I even made a map for it, but OP disappeared and the project died.
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>>303508
Hey, I made a map for that too! It sucked!
>>303504
4sho

what type of project?
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>>303523
That would be TBD depending on what anons are interested in.

A year ago I came up with an idea where you explore a strange dream world and complete simple quests. That would be very easy for anyone to contribute to since it would be fairly open-ended and you could, if wanted, easily create new worlds with different styles, add new characters and stories and dialogue, or improve existing worlds and graphics.
>>303504
Sure
Though depends if I like the direction and my skills are relevant since I can only really code
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>>303504
I was trying to get into 3D last year by doing some tutorials and then maybe model some on my own but I've long stalled it since I figured I might as well learn to draw first, but then I don't bother drawing since I've got IRL stuff to do and then it happens that once I settled down to draw I feel intimidated by the forecast of not being good enough and that's excluding that I was born lazy.
Ring me up next year or the one after that.
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>>303548
What would you plan on making this in?
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>>303548
you want to make your own interpretation of yume nikki ?
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>>303548
I'll make the logo just finish anon's bizarre adventure already you cowards
>>303564
Unless someone else wants to set it up in their favorite engine, I would use my own stuff and set up guides and editors to make it easy to use and get into.

>>303567
That's where it came from, but I've never actually played Yume Nikki so I'm not sure how similar they would be. That's just one idea, it could be something else too.
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>>303573
My assumption was RPG Maker, but based off my experience a collaborative project in that could be difficult, given how version control-unfriendly it is-
>I've never actually played Yume Nikki
Do it nigger.
>>303504
>>303523
>>303548
>>303506
>>303563
>fag barges in to shill making his own animu project, and instead of making it's own thread co-opts the VN thread.
>No one would lift a finger to help but now suddenly people want to make a gayme
The absolute state of this shithole, obvious proof no one ever cared about Libbie here.
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>>303631
No matter how amusing the FOSStists vs /tech/ debacle was furry kemono has always been a no-no to me.
Whether you meant fags here don't care about Libbie I felt it. If there's a snout it's out.
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>>303631
Uhh yeah I never cared about Libbie. You got me.
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Why can't you just contain all this autism and bickering about competing projects and "correct" interpretations of an abstract concept into one overall Anon gamedev thread, and work together instead?
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>>303637
This IS the gamedev thread, this is the only one left.
>work together
A VN that focuses on a titular character is terrible for collaboration, especially when it's not managed by anyone.
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>>303631
I have no idea what or who Libbie is, I haven't seen a single screenshot of the game.
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>>303653
>>303644
You have the mentality of a squatter. Make your own thread, faggot.
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>>303655
As if this dumpster fire was going anywhere anyway lmao.
>>303501
It was all ogre after shadps4 blew up.
So, we jigglin' or...?
I might recommend GBstudio to make this as baby mode as possible so we actually finish it.
>>303719
Another thing is to get a projected timeframe.

Utilizing the most simple resources, whether it's 2D or 3D, what'd be a hopeful outlook?

I don't see this working out myself, projects need dedicated members diligently keeping track of all the moving parts, and as well those members have to constantly keep the gears turning. The big incentive to keep those gears turning is money, so that the time and effort spent on it has some benefit to the members.
The Patreon vampires sucking the money out of the wallets of people investing in their ideas at least know that the only way to want to move forward with a project as major as a video game.
Depending on what is trying to be made, are you guys gonna aim for a 1-year crush project that at least one or two guys settle down in their basements and sweat and groan and moan to make with some help from the other part timers?
2-year project? How much time are you asking from anons who are very busy masturbating right now at this very moment and who have filled schedules with more masturbation appointments for the next 5 years? You can shit-talk the Berserk creator for taking forever to get Guts off the boat, but don't pretend you guys aren't doing the same thing, spanking the monkey looking at anime girls.
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>>303719
Create a /agdg/ thread
>>303722
Is this game going to be like a fangame with reused assets or copyright songs, artwork, or resources? Is this a game to be bought and sold? Does anyone get anything out of this? Is it all personal satisfaction? Why are you making it? Are you making it just for anons? Do the anons want it? How much time can people devote to it?
You can dismiss these questions as being "too intensive" for a little project by anons, but if you don't organize all of this (and more) and have a good game plan, you're not gonna know where you're at and where you're going even if you get the plane off the ground. That Anton game had a lot but it couldn't go that far even with the population of the golden age of 8chan.

Not trying to demoralize, but video games are a significant investment of time and effort, even if it's just a small little thing on the side. Are you guys okay with investing a year or more into your game just for it to peter out into nothing like this did? And this was literally just a VN, it's writing and art and that's basically it, maybe some cheap candy-crush minigames.
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>>303719
The main reason I ( >>303504 ) didn't make a new thread is that I'm not prepared for people to push it forward, which is a big problem if I'm supposed to spearhead it. If I actually decide to do a project, I need a couple weeks to prepare things first to make sure everything gets to a smooth start. If you want to start now then someone else has to take the reins.

>>303722
>>303725
The "incentive" is that it's fun to create things and to work on a thing together, get this corporate mindset out of here. It will take as long as people are having fun and there's things to do, if interest wanes then I'd start tying loose ends and wrap it up.

My expectation is that I will make a game mostly myself, and other people can discuss ideas and add content and modify the code, ideally it can also be a learning experience to everyone. I can't fill your spreadsheet because I don't know how many people would ultimately be interested and capable/willing to contribute and how much, and what kind of project people are interested in to begin with. All I could do is try and see how it goes.
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>>303741
Yeah take a few weeks, I just wanted to make sure you were still moving forward with it.
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