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>>247546 (OP) 
>First party controller makers who overprice that shit simply for being "The Original (TM)" belong behind bars
Ftfy

>>247546 (OP) 
>Wii remote "Replacements" are the worst
I doubt that, DS2/3 fakes are often sold as original or "refurbished" despite not even having pressure sensitive buttons.

>>247546 (OP) 
they are all piece of shit, is just that the originals tend to have higher quality materials and slightly better precision

just get a ds5 or a xbone controller. hynix makes a good xbox original controller.
8bitdo controllers seem to be popular with other anons and seem to last according to reviews.

i'd suggest better older controllers like ds4, 3, 2 or wired 360 controllers, but theyve become extremely expensive since theyre out of production

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Anyone know good third party controllers with hall effect sticks?
My old pad's buttons are nearing the end of their life but the sticks have yet to experience even the slightest drift after 15 years of almost daily use.
>>247562
>360 controllers
Utter garbage. 
The stick surface warps and wears like a motherfucker, the dpad is an affront to mankind and the stick deadzone tends to grow into unusability within 5 years.

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I have a Logitech F310 for my emulated games, works fine and was pretty cheap

>>247585
I'm still set with genuine DS3s, but looking around your choices are Gulikit, GameSir and 8BitDo. Gulikit was the first brand to offer cheap Hall effect stick upgrades and their "KK3" controller has a bunch of bells and whistles like back buttons and macro replay, but it's as expensive as a current-gen official controller. GameSir supposedly has good build quality despite being priced like chink shit, but most of their cheap controllers are wired-only. 8BitDo is 8BitDo - somewhat overpriced but you get good compatibility with modern consoles if you ever need it and spare USB receivers are available at brick and mortar stores.

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>>247546 (OP) 
>child-labor-built

Is haptic feedback a meme?

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>>247621
>GameSir
I can't help but laugh at that name every time I see it.

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>>247817
It feels like your controller would shit in the street and try to offer you microsoft support.
>hello yes this is gamesir how can I help you

>>247820
That said, I should give that controller a try, and if I don't like it, I'll simply redeem it.

>>247621
>but looking around your choices are Gulikit, GameSir and 8BitDo
Forgot Flydigi
Having owned most hall effect pads in existence I can say
8bitdo > Gulikit > Flydigi >>>> Gamesir
Gamesir fucked up real bad with having clicky switches for facebuttons, it sucks dick and the one i had had several issues with QC out of the box and a couple additional ones within weeks of usage
Flydigi is the cheapest and they don't actual feel that bad, just small
Gulikit ones are fucking chonky and feel the best built of the lot but I've had issues with sticky triggers and some game making it act retarded.
8bitdo stillsomehow manage to have the weird analog ranges issues all their product has but other than that great tuff.

>>247621
>>247874
To my knowledge 8bitdo is using the same hall effect sensor from Gulikit. I have the ultimate 8bitdo and haven't had an issue with it. It has a nice weight and the d-pad feels right so can't complain.

Even official controllers don't have great quality. The Dualsense has notoriously bad trigger springs, stick drift, and battery life. Even so, I still much prefer the layout and dpad to the alternatives, although I ended up getting an 8bitdo ultimate as my replacement. Pretty sad that fucking Sega figured out hall effect sticks 20 years ago and only just now are they catching on.

>>248158
>Even official controllers don't have great quality. The Dualsense has notoriously bad trigger springs,
Oh yeah, even bought on direct from SONY and it was badly assembled from the factory.

Do not buy second hand PS2 Dualshock2 controllers. Plastic on the stickers gets... decomposed and sticky from its age. Plus 4 out of 5 I've tried have some button that doesn't make good contact. These things aren't made to last 20 years.

>>247546 (OP) 
It was nice when MadCatz was still in business, because that's how you knew which controllers sucked.

>Finally a hall effect symmetric controller
>it's some baby hand shit that doesn't look nice to hold
Fuck everything still gonna buy it
https://retrofighters.com/our-collection/mantis-mini-bluetooth/

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>>248377
This looks so cute.

>>248377
>out of stock
I guess I will wait for them to update their other controllers.

>>248383
It's not released yet, they just announced it

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>>248385
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>>248396
Yeah it's a prerelease listing

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>>247546 (OP) 
Yeah it always bothered me that if you didn't want to spend $50 ($60 or $70 now) on a first-party controller, your only alternative was the cheapest hunk of shit.  There was no middle ground.
>>248334
I had pic related from them that was pretty good.  Their Gamecube controllers sucked ass though.  I seem to remember not liking their n64 controller's stick and cheap plastic feel.

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Anyone have a list of controllers that have Hall Effect joysticks?

>>248484
Flydigi Direwolf / Vader 3 Pro (potentially others, only the Vader 3 Pro not the Vader 3 regular), common OEM build for hall effect stuff and usually the cheapest of them) 
Gamesir X1
Gulikit King Kong and others
8Bitdo Ultimate (only some models be extra careful)
Snakebyte Gamepad Base / Pro / RGB X
SteelSeries Stratus+  (no hall effect triggers and no wired mode + cancer driver)

OG Dreamcast Controllers

>>248498
Thanks for the info, anonkun.

>>248461
>Yeah it always bothered me that if you didn't want to spend $50 ($60 or $70 now) on a first-party controller, your only alternative was the cheapest hunk of shit.  There was no middle ground.
For real.
Honestly, i don't think the price for first party controllers is justified at all, and i think that a third party company that wans't just trying to rip people off, could actually manage to make a controller that is quite similar in features and quality for a lower price and still make money.
But yes, as you said, most of the times is either you get the 70 bucks Original Product (TM) or the cheapest thing possible, often wired and without rumble.

>>248504
>Honestly, i don't think the price for first party controllers is justified at all
The Dualsnese's vibration motors are way better than anything else I've tried and for that alone back when hall effect stuff wasn't common it was entirely justified just for that
Now what's really bullshit is the premium controllers from those same first party being absolute fucking trash despite being 150, and getting destroyed by the offerings of other 150 3rd party controllers (except Nacon because they're retarded besides the XBOX style quick disconnect).

>>248505
The dualsense's vibration is fine and the haptic trigger shit is ok, but like most gimmicks is never used fully. I think only the Astro Bot demo and probably the upcoming Astro Bot even uses the vibration to any good effect and the haptic trigger is more annoying then anything.

>>248522
The vibration is much better in anything that actually uses vibration as a useful cue (especially racing games that have good FFB) because it is easier to feel at low level, more immediate in feel as to when the level of vibration changes and not as distracting at higher levels, DS4 vibration feels like a broken controller when you go back to it after that.

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>>248805
cool shit, I'd love to try it out

>>248805
I would use that.

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A friend gave me his ps5 with a few games, but he told me the thumb sticks are shit.
Where can I buy hall effect sticks for the controller? And how hard is to solder the damn thing?
Also, is it possible to jail brake the ps5?

>>250826
>jailbreak
No one cares enough about the PS5 and the only people capable are paid off by Sony for bug hunting so they don't release anything.

>>250838
Well shit.

>>250826
>Also, is it possible to jail brake the ps5?
https://wololo.net/ps5-jailbreak-and-custom-firmware/

Looks like 8bitdo is adding hall effect to a bunch of controllers.

>>251254
Yeah. I bought their Pro 2 hall effect controller. It's pretty good. One complaint I have is that you need to open it up and buy a button pack if you want to swap it from nintendo to xbox control scheme on the hardware end. You can, of course, just remap it software wise but its very annoying that it has the layout of a nintendo controller by default.

Is there even a controller better value than the xbox 360 wired one? I've always wanted to try the Steam controller but haven't yet.

>>251265
Steam controller? Don't try, it feels like shit, bought one when they were selling them for cheap.
>>251262
How is the response time of the Hall effect sticks?

>>251266
Gotta be decently fast. I don't really play many games that require decidedly fast inputs though, so I wouldn't be too sure. Far better than the F310, I bought it specifically to replace it. Though, the F310 has a really nice grip to it, the 8bitdo Pro 2 isn't far behind in that regard.
Button/stick spam I notice is easier though. On the F310 it'd take around 8 or so seconds in Monster Hunter World to recover from a stun, on the 8bitdo Pro 2 I can get it down to 4-5 seconds instead. Might be just a skill issue though.

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The nips have done it, the absolute madmen!

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>>252875
*loud wheeze*
is that...
*exhaling noises*
BAYONETTA'S ASS

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>>247546 (OP) 
>Third party controller makers belong behind bars
Okay Mr. Anti Christ. I guess we should all buy official first party Xbox controllers instead.

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>>252875

Most of my childhood was spent playing with very shitty 3rd party controllers. There's a lot of high quality ones out there nowadays, but there's still some shit ones.

>>257926
The irony of him putting his twitter name on it

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>>247546 (OP) 
What the fug is this copy pasta thread?
Dude what I've seen your exact retarded post like six times.

>>247546 (OP) 
Say what you will about GameSir the Xbox style controllers are excellent, good grip, no drift or fucked triggers after 4 years of use easily the best one I've had and I've burned though about 8 in my time.

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>>247546 (OP) 
Fair, but at the same time a lot of these controllers aren't made officially anymore, so all of your options are used, and the supply will only decrease with time, so in a way it's good to have these 3rd party companies make brand new ones, even if inferior to the OG controllers we actually want. I know it's not ideal, but it is what it is, I've got a 3rd party PS3 controller recently and it works.

P.S. I love my DoubleShock III so much, /v/ros...

>>276172
wtf happened to controller design? how they are those huge clunky things. why did they abandon this design that was the standard for decades

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>>276188
No idea... and while I like the DualSense and think it's a great controller, the DualShock 3 was peak for me.