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Steam is a self-fed storefront ecosystem that doubles as social media with plenty of feel-good gimmicks for continued patronage.
It's pointless to try and do honest business in good faith when there's a sizable portion of humanity that uses it for social networking.

What are you mad about specifically? 

Not asking as a "U mad" or "Who hurt you". Is there a specific feature about the controller you like or were looking forward to? Are you concerend for humanity if the average consumer uncritically ignores price hikes?

If a game has aggresive DRM, then the publishers don't have faith that the game is fun enough on it's own merits to risk people trying for free. The same principle should be true for hardware.

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>>308638 (OP) 
>Elite for $50
Unless you're buying from some nig off faceberg who just swiped it from gaystop I don't see how thats possible.

>the controller has hardware drm which means that you need to have the steam client open to use it
Don't have one, but isn't there a driver on github that lets you use it without steam?

>>308638 (OP) 
Do you have any proof the controllers are shit? I was thinking of getting one.  Also didn't Sony just bump their console to like 900?

>>308675
The problem is all electronics are going to keep climbing in price until the AI bubble bursts.

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>>308669
I meant double the price.
>>308673
Multiple ones it seems but if i have to unofficial drivers then its a useless controller. 
>oh but its not drm if you remove the drm haha
>>308675
0 quality control is my proof that the steam controller is shit. And that it costs 100 dollars. It's a joke of a gadget. Not to mention the drm

>>308678
>Multiple ones it seems but if i have to unofficial drivers then its a useless controller.
Okay, so you're just retarded.
Take your meds and fuck off.

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>>308678
>>oh but its not drm if you remove the drm haha
So if a package comes wrapped and you remove it its still packed? I'm not following your logic.

>>308679
>>308680
>GUYS IF I BUY A DRM GAME AND THEN BYPASS THE DRM THAT MEANS THAT IT ISNT DRM. WOW IM A FUCKING GENIUS

>>308682
>straight into hyperbole
Stunning counterpoint.

>>308683
You never countered what i said in the first place. You just made a package analogy which doesnt even make sense. What you have is not a fucking package.

>>308684
I was trying to understand your point. You came off the bat with "its DRM because I say so" rather than pointing out the hows and whys.

Does the controller really not have any dinput or xinput built-in?
I don't care if I can't use the trackpads or some shit since those are specialised inputs
>99 euros 
Knowing how shit the build quality of the previous steam controller was, they better have upped their game BIG time to justify this gay ass price.

>>308675
>Do you have any proof the controllers are shit?
All you have to do is look at an image of them.

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>>308685
If I'm understanding him correctly, he's saying that not having drivers for some stupid reason is the same as DRM, which is retarded.

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>>308688
Imagine trying to understand schizos.

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>>308679
>>308680
>>308683
>>308685
>>308691
If you have to jump through hoops to make a controller work without installing the likes of ((( Steam ))), the controller is shit and there's no reason to waste money on it when an Xbawks controller doesn't require ((( Valve )))'s software or any fucking around to get working.
You would understand this if you weren't Valvedrones whose schizo derangement syndrome kicked in at the mere THOUGHT of that fat jew Gabe being criticized.

>>308688
>>308686
Yeah, from looking into this further, the problem really is that this is a weird controller without Windows drivers. The next version of SDL3 supports it, and supposedly the hid_steam Linux driver is adding support for it, but I haven't found a source for the second claim yet.
OP might as well refer to the Dualshock 3 not having default Windows drivers as DRM instead of what it actually is: a lack of drivers. This sucks a lot and is pretty dickish of Valve, don't get me wrong, but it isn't DRM.

>>308693
Is it any less hassle to get an Xbox controller working on Linux or Macintosh? Genuine question.

>>308695
The Linux kernel comes with drivers for every Xbox controller, the Dualshock 3 and 4, the Dualsense, the previous Steam Controller, Joycons, and the Switch Pro controller (along with a bunch of other stuff I can't be assed to remember). It's actually pretty sick.

>>308693
Take your meds.
>>308696
Community development that still accepts community members is a beautiful thing while it lasts. I think the only glaring omissions for gaming still are various chink fightsticks with wonky HID descriptors and the Nintendo GameCube controller adapter. There's also no Joy-Con support in kernel space, but frankly who cares?

I wish I had the time to get this irrationally mad about unimportant bullshit.

>>308696
Ah, okay. Never used anything besides DS4/DS5 with Linux so didn't know.

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>>308669
There are good options out there.

>>308711
Reminds me of Matcatz crap.

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>>308695
I couldn't tell you, but it looks like it's as easy as just plugging the thing in and playing, nothing else needed. Hopefully a Macfag can confirm or deny
>>308698
Why are you using localizer talk, big guy? Got something you want to share?
https://archive.is/Wn3gJ for the full thread.

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>>308638 (OP) 
Lmao buyfags deserve it.

>>308638 (OP) 
This faggot got kicked out of 8chan /bv/ btw for being too retarded

He's a nintendrone too.

>>308678
>pic
Yeah no shit exposed contacts will short when metal touches them. 8bitdo, playstation, xbox, and plenty of controller companies have exposed contacts in their chargers. The big difference is that those other chargers are bulkier and double as stands that make it harder to accidentally touch the contacts directly.

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>>308678
>smartwatch

>>308755
Is OP Harmon Smith?

>>308769
You're awake from your nightmare.

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You can pick up new PS4 controller's off Amazon still for fifty bucks.
Just buy yourself a dongle, you're good to go.

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I still just use my PS2 controller with an adaptor.

>>308771
I think the entire point of this controller is the dual trackpads, though. Did you notice them?

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>>308638 (OP) 
Good to see the dumbest of ragebait still gets transplanted here from twitter and 4/v/.  I'll bite out of the kindness of my heart.

There's no DRM.  Any application that supports SDL3 will work with the steam controller out of the box, without steam running, on both windows and linux.  Try it with your favorite emulator today.

The controller objectively has more features than any other controller at its price range.  There's no argument against this, which is why people will suddenly start saying 'you don't need those features anyway'.

Steam input beats any of the dogshit third party apps that you are required to install to use ANY extra buttons, or configure anything on your controllers because, spoiler, xinput is a dogshit standard that MSFT implemented precisely to break controllers to comply and ensure they set the guidelines for interfacing with games on your PC.  A ton of premium controllers only allow you to set the extra buttons to an existing gamepad button because of this - steam input lets you set it to _anything_ on your keyboard, controller, or mouse.

The controller is easy to open, extremely easy to repair (they've fucking labeled most of the internals with QR codes so you can identify replacement parts), and is designed from top to bottom to make people that have made a killing off of selling hapless fucks 4 or 5 controllers through intentionally poor quality control seethe endlessly.

Enjoy your thread.

>>308755
Why didn't he stay inside marks asshole of a board?

>>308784
This is just sad.

>>308784
>ragebait
>seethe
>redditspacing
I understand you're baiting to try to make the new Valvedrone copypasta, but you tried way too hard and ruined it.

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>>308784
What are the square pads for?

>>308812
Prostate stimulation.

>>308812
You can stimulate her nipples.

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>>308814
Square nipples??

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>>308822
Wouldn't want it any other way.

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>>308822
$100 sheckels, eh?

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> Remember controller prices? Remember when you could buy a controller for 30 bucks?
I bought a 6-button Sega Genesis style controller back in the 90's, but I don't remember how much it costed (probably like $10). On the plus side, it connected to the game port of sound card, so there was less latency than USB.
Well now I don't much care about controllers anymore.

>>308638 (OP) 
Shut the fuck up alibaba rothstein faggot.
Gaben is MVP solo carrying the entire industry because you jews only make shitass jewslop games. Pathetic jews always cry when white people make money. Linux gaming kills jews.

>>308873
Nice schizoid post dude, you sure showed him!

>>308873
Amen.

>>308875
Nothing was unclear about it, unless you're some brown paki animal or emasculated jew (i.e. a jew) new to imageboards and gaming.

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>>308873
Dats right, he din du noffing!

>>308879
I know this is fake because Gabe looks like a meth head now.

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>>308880
raping and drinking the blood of white children does wonders to your body

>>308879
Now that's fucking funny.

>>308886
Nah that's what jews like epstein do.
Gaben is vrillmaxing. They're so buttmad right now they have the actual rothschilds (leight rothschild) doing lawfare troll lawsuits against him right now.

>>308873
>>308878
>>308891
IP hopping isn't going to make your shilling less obvious.

>>308893
What am I shilling? It's true that the jews are suing gaben for making money as a white man and running (fair) platform for gaming despite it's many faults. Stop being a bitch about it.

>>308894
Gaben is not your friend and the globalists are not a unified group. I see him as much my enemy as the rest of them.

>>308891
>removes lewd games
>removes problematic games
>listens to the ((( banks ))) and removes even more shit
He really showed them, eh?

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>>308894
> ((( platform )))
That's jewish vocabulary, to brainwash you into believing you're helpless without their structure. That's also why RMS made GPL that's 6 gorillion pages of laywerese, a real jewish mindfuck. So you have him on one side, and Bill Gates on the other, both working hard to destroy the previously free hobbyist computer scene for decades until everything is completely subverted, including Linux. The last dude who wasn't a nigger was Terry Davis.

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Thank you for the asspain!

>>308873
Based

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>>308891
>Gaben is vrillmaxing.
Lost.

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I'm going to buy the controller just so he can buy another yatch with which he will sail your delicious salty tears.

>>308873
About fucking time someone here said it.

>>308873
>he's BAYYYYYSED because his service applies lube before it fucks your ass!
can't wait for kikechan to inevitably go belly up because it means we're going to have fucking retarded conversations like this on sleepy every single day

>>308966
who are you quoting

>>308966
>can't wait for kikechan to inevitably go belly up
Won't happen. Most of the threads on the only board that matters in terms of revenue and clicks (/pol/) are pure psychological operations by competing glownigger groups. At all times, you have 24/7 Western-funded /ugh/ generals, Russian-funded /chug/, MI5/6 funded /brit/, Jewish funded threads on whatever sand war of the week, engineered Indian hate threads (different from the organic ones), jeet-curated spam threads in response, jewish-funded BBC porn spam threads (proven), absolute falsehoods spammed to study the spread of lies, e-celeb paid ads (often police informants), that one Trump general thread for the last ten years funded by Kushner and other jews, random chink demoralization threads, recycled bot threads for agitprop purposes with archives showing them going back for close to a decade, and more. Too many fingers in too many pies, and even jews get bored of their controlled hyper-censored left-wing reddit for research purposes.

>>308638 (OP) 
Reminder that the dollar literally became half as valuable during wuflu inflation

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>>308891
>>308894
You're the vidya equivalent of a cuckservative seeing a nigger in a MAGA hat and going "holy shit, based black guy!"
You need to understand that the enemy of your enemy is not automatically your friend. ((( Valve ))) versus ((( Rothschilds ))) is just jews having a kvetch-off, and it's naive at best to think anything about it but "they all deserve to get gassed."

I love steam and there's nothing you can do about it

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>>308978
>forgot to switch IPs before baiting

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>>308977
>You need to understand that the enemy of your enemy is not automatically your friend.
No shit. The problem is that there's an elephant in the room everyone likes to ignore, because admitting it has awkward implications for everyone (Valvedrones included).
The elephant in the room is this:
The sole reason Microsoft didn't turn Windows 8+ into a completely locked-down Metro appstore hell was because Valve saw this as an existential threat to itself and threw a fuckton of money, developers, custom hardware, and their major game distribution service at a competing OS. This spooked the shit out of Microsoft, so they boiled the frog slower.
No other game distributor or major publisher puts actual effort into preserving the real platform computer games run on: the operating system. This is an extremely ugly, awful truth. Valve runs a massive so-called store which technically only sells licenses for DRM-riddled games (technically Steam's DRM is optional, but an annoying majority of games use it), which anons rightfully see as cancer, and they pull dick moves like not giving their new gamepad a Windows driver. Yet somehow they're the only ones who put their money where their mouth is in this one specific, really important area. Every competitor, especially GOG (who cannot even be assed to port Galaxy to Linux), is content with the odd toothless grumble and sticks purely to their part of the application layer.
This position gives Valve a crazy amount of soft power. Complaining about it or being an internet activist does nothing. Doggedly sticking with Windows 7 and pirating everything is a temporary, personal bandaid which solves nothing. If you want to knock Valve down a peg, you have to either deal with the problem which creates their soft power or ask yourself: how do you make buying games from seperate game stores as convenient as doing everything through Steam?

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>>308983
>how do you make buying games from seperate game stores as convenient as doing everything through Steam?
Fuck it, I'll turn this into an exercise for your creativity.
The absolute heart of Steam is buying, downloading, and updating PC games. There are currently three main ways of doing this digitally:
>Download your game from a website and manually redownload updates through a web browser
>Download your game from a website and update it through a dedicated launcher
>Download and update your game through a store-specific client
There is an unofficial fourth option of using a third-party client which downloads and updates games from multiple stores. These have to manually add support for every new store, and break whenever said store's devs tweak how user authentication and downloads work.

What hypothetical options can you imagine? I've thought of 2.5 over the years.

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>>308972
That's happened quite a few times before too. Like they mention here, pleb life was becoming too good in the 90's, so ((( they ))) took steps to fuck it all up.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/bamboozled-once-again
WW1 and 2 also started by ((( bankers ))), right after their 1913 coup (Federal Reserve, IRS, and ADL all established that same year). They had also tried several times before in the 19th century to setup another US central bank, but americans were always against it, after Andrew Jackson freed them from that shit.

>>308978
I love silver and gold, and everything old. Nothing you/they can do about it.

>>308978
I could cool off the room and your precious steam is gone

>>308978
You vwill own nothing and be--
>>308979
--this is because of cow farts lowering your oxygen levels. Baits are not for hooks they are for the goyim's nutrition, only then cAn We sAvE tHe ((( plAnEt )))!
>>308668
>paying for software
>brand loyalty just to be charged more

>>308979
>>308978
Please, kill yourself.

>>308706
>posting the pimp purple version
mah nigga

If steam is so bad, why is 99% of pirated games from steam? Checkmate atheists

Steam won.
They have the platform, the reach, and soon their own OS.

>>309000
no u

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>>309062
They're not gonna have any customers soon, because people can barely afford to eat and drive, and it's gonna get much worse still.
Pic is my collection of canned food.

>>309069
I will raid you for food and turn you into my bussy slave while playing a wonderful stream game on my steam controller.

>>309069
Maybe stop being poor

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>>309081
I'm not poor. I'm senior vibe coder at Umaru Heavy Industries! Took this pic at the meeting today.

>>309100
this is what mark sees whenever he closes his eyes

>>309082
Its a valvedrone, what did you expect?