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Visual Novel Database: https://vndb.org/
Torrents: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/ (18+), https://nyaa.si/ (all-ages). When in doubt use moonrunes from VNDB or developer name and find a pack.
DDL: https://erogedownload.com/ , https://ryuugames.com/ , http://www.vn-meido.com/k1/
Raw VNs: https://www.anime-sharing.com/ , https://zi0.cc/

<No western visual novels, uguu (okay, other than Katawa Shoujo)
>>289285 (OP) 
Damn... that list takes me back.
The only one that's missing is Wanko to Kurasou

List should get updated, otherwise we're only looking to out past...
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>>289292
There's this big chart focused on moege, but, well, it's focused on only moege.
"Here's your moege bro" made me chuckle
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>>289285 (OP) 
Bible Black and Discipline are still the GOATs for me, though Euphoria isn't far behind.
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Played through all three routes in Moor a Massa but there are some CGs I haven't unlocked yet. Most importantly, the very last CG in the in the projector menu, as well as an entire ero scene whom I suspect to be pink haired bitch's "old" servant maid. Besides, it hasn't been shown in game whether Shishiku was MC's biological brother.
Is it worth my time to revisit the game in case there's much material to unlock? I loved the main story but two of the three heroines were utter shit, hence my cold feet.
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>>289667
>Shishiku was MC's biological brother.
I never picked on it really, because it’s just mentioned as a possibility and never outright stated, coupled with Shishiku being a very forgettable character, I expect the MC’s brother to be a main character. It just shows how the pink haired bitch’s route was undercooked which is why it’s the worst one.
>Is it worth my time to revisit the game in case there's much material to unlock?
There’s no material to unlock besides the CG and there’s a guide for it. Just reload your save and pick different lines.
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>>289669
I don't know, I pretty much found all male characters except the kids interesting or at least memorable enough, even the transvestite governor.
I liked Shishiku as well. The story propped him as asshole power-hungry bro, only it barely gave him any development and/or plotline. Yusa Doshin was perfectly chracterized and fleshed out in between all routes, for instance.
>never outright stated
Really? vndb says otherwise, hence why I'm asking.

>the pink haired bitch’s route was undercooked which is why it’s the worst one
Absolutely.
>her entire ambition is that she enjoys killing and murdering
>constantly quipping shitty jokes with her unwarranted old lady servant
>drags the VN down whenever she's on screen
>would sell her country for peanuts to the *nglo as long as there's "peace"
>her plotline goes nowhere other than Rokuhara being BTFO and United Nations doing a democracy
>retarded asspull in that the nobody kid you decapitate at the beginning is the heir to one of the most powerful clans in Yamato
>he's the biological cousin to the sadist bitch as well
>somehow this merciless whore feels righteous in seeking vendetta against the MC
>after brutally murdering her betrothed and his state out of spite
Her entire route other than the mecha hunting you down piloted by your previous victims feels like an afterthought.

I find it hard to believe that a dumbass JK girl whose beliefs align with gay race communism not only makes up for a better plotline but a more endearing love interest as well. Fuck Kanae with a rusted old plumbing pipe.
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>>289674
>transvestite governor
He’s not a tranny, it’s a thing in Japan called male geisha.
>Yusa Doshin was perfectly chracterized and fleshed out in between all routes, for instance.
Fully agree.
>Really? vndb says otherwise, hence why I'm asking.
Yes it wasn’t stated in the game only hinted at. But I guess he’s indeed his brother so it doesn’t matter whether they did or not. They even look similar thinking back on it. Also the game really painted Shishiku as lacking talent compared to Kageaki, a typical sibling rivalry plot. Though again it was probably dropped.
>the nobody kid
She doesn’t even mention him that much, and she starts cock sucking you the moment she meets you, only in the very end does she reveals her motives. Konatsu was much more compelling in her revenge quest against you. It really does feel like an afterthought. And her relationship with the GHQ is just meh and only exists to make her relevant. Nothing interesting was explored through her route, like at all.
>>would sell her country for peanuts to the *nglo as long as there's "peace"
What baffled me more is her reasoning that Anglos are just better than Russians. How about you fight both whore?
Her Taurugi was cool though, especially the William Tell Apple, but the fight against her was total GARBAGE.
Also I really feel like there was going to be more routes, her vampire maid really felt like there’s more about her. Chachamaru’s route also ends just when she turns into a tsurugi and you don’t see the fight.
Btw play Kikokugai it’s the closest experience to Muramasa.
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Anyone got a good link to School Days VN in both JP and ENG? Been rewatching the anime and Kotonoha being such a nice, pure girl while MC's such a vile piece of shit makes me wonder if there can ever be a happy ending for the former.
Didn't like Sekai at first but ultimately still came to understand her. It truly is a love square.
How much (if anything) am I missing between the PC and Dreamcast releases of Baldr Force EXE?
From my own partial playthroughs the DC has a number of unique FMV cutscenes the PC release lacks in exchange for censoring near god damn everything including simple パンチラ。
The PC release does get rather, uh, explicit as the game progresses, but I didn't play that far in the DC version and thus have no idea how they wriggled around the CUNT PUNCHER.
There's also a PS2 release that's supposedly a "remaster" of sorts with a different cast of VAs.
>>289285 (OP) 
>https://ryuugames.com/ 
How safe is it to download from the links on this site?
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>>291231
If you execute random executables from the internet on your general system and worry about whether they're safe or not instead of having a separate environment just to do that, you're using computers wrong.
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>>291232
I know that. Main problem is some of the links seem to have redirects in them and I don't trust that.
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>>295589
Whatta bitch
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>>291231
I downloaded a tons of shit from here and never had a problem.
>>291233
I used to use extensions that skips the redirects, they were very useful, specifically for pages like these... But it seems nowadays the extension I used is dead. If someone knows a new one will be helpful.
>>295589
I hate these kind of people and pacifists.... Warmongers, jingoists and violent people are way more honest....
>>295961
No they aren't.
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>>295971
Way to prove his point.
>>295961
i wonder what he is going to post when japan goes to war against shina over taiwan
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>>295961
He's a superfaggot for trying to pretend that Ciconia isn't about exploiting the shock value of the opening. Then again, he's probably made his bank and can afford being an aloof, out-of-touch artistic type. Still a bitch tho.
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I'm curious about what was the "point" or target audience of censored eroge ports for consoles. I can only think of three things:
>Playing VNs portably
Only explains it for portable console ports, doesn't explain the multitudes of ports on home consoles.
>Extra routes/content
Not all ports have them.
>Underageb&s who can't buy PC eroge without having to show their ID
This one seems more plausible, but was there really such a huge market for underageb&s that hundreds of these ports were made?
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>>296719
I always assumed it was because not everyone in the 2000s owned a PC, but everyone had a ps2. And the censorship was just because SONY is gay,
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>>296721
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YygM-m7aKho
>>296721
>not everyone in the 2000s owned a PC
In the PS2 era that makes sense, but there are many PS3 and PS4 ports of VNs as well.
>And the censorship was just because SONY is gay,
I've always thought it was due to more universal regulations like CERO or whatever, since sexually explicit content on other consoles is rare as well (unless it's degenerate gay zoophiliac shit in a western game or something). There was the UMDPG loophole for uncensored eroge ports on the PSP, so I don't think it was Sony per se that hated erotic content.
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>>296731
>universal regulations like CERO
Oh yeah right! PC games are not subject to that kind of regulations. I forgot that. The developers had to send the game to the publisher and the publisher needs to get the age rating to publish it, or something like that, so maybe if your VN had rape guro scenes it won't even get published... Truly shameless. But do they had to get SONY approval or something? I think nintendo games do.
STEINS;GATE RE:BOOT's script is based off elite apparently so you lose 30 percent of the script. As usual always play the original.
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>>299061
>30% of the script
Did they remove half the routes?
I heard Elite was a downgrade from the original, but not to that degree of retardation.
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>>299068
Most of it was a mix between dialogue exposition and some characters from the original are removed practically or are just gone because of the retarded anime montage.(dude it's there anyways so just remove the text) Which they removed manual phone operation and customization as well.
I cannot say I have good feelings about it as a whole. The art style looks decent but knowing that it's based off elite pretty much sours any initial impressions.
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What are some VNs where there is actual choices and consequences? I hate it when the "game" part is a borderline book that occasionally checks if I am paying attention.
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>>299070
<they removed manual phone operation

>>299150
>choices and consequences?
Baldr Force has gameplay sections where your performance/score ends up affecting route progress down the line.
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What did they mean by this?
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>>299154
What did they mean by what, stop speaking in (You)baiting mongolese and tell >us what the problem here is.
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>>299155
I assume he means the shittier style. Don't know why he cares and/or doesn't know that MAGES puts Todd to shame with how much they rerelease this game.
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>>299189
Poor business decisions and lack of new games and development hell.
This isn't even exactly a re-release it's a "reboot" for people who didn't buy into the shitty anime montage and didn't like the original art for being odd and low resolution. 
>They need the money for Steins;???
>Somehow at the same time they bother to remake danganronpa 2
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Am I nuts or are they bigger but worse shape?
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Anyone here can give me a quick rundown on how to get the original fan translation for higurashi? I am a huge higurashi fan, and i just finished rereading chapter 1 all over again. But then I remember, the motherfuckers at mangareader who did the official translation fucking CENSORED the game. They fucking censored naked Satoko in chapter 3, these retards fucking wrapped this girl in a towel. It made no fucking sense and totally ruined the immersion during the story(you will agree with me if you know what im saying). 
So I did see from back then fan translation which didn't have this problem. Though I have no idea how to get this shit now. Please help thanks.
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>>299547
P/S: I just want to let everyone who hasn't played this yet. To me, this is the greatest horror story ever made. I cannot believe during my first play through that this ugly looking shit actually scared the hell out of me. Chapter 1 to 5, 10 out of 10. Chapter 3, as mentioned above, is perhaps my favorite. And to see it degraded as such, and only by accident I discovered the fact, pissed me off to no end. Who knows what else the localizers tried to hide in the name of protecting fucking fictional children?
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>>299547
Anon it's a doll body without any detail. Do you masturbate to barbies?
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>>299549
what the fuck are you talking about? Are you retarded? Read my post again. And if you are one of those niggers who get off to saying stupid shit, shut your bitch ass up, nigger.
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>>299550
>Are you retarded?
He says while unable to read nipstones.
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>the phone scene in chapter 2
>the entire chapter 3
It's just so peak, i have no idea how Ryukishi07 manged to make such masterpiece like these.
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>>299563
It's because Higurashi was ghostwritten by his butt buddy, who also ghostwrote a portion of Umineko before literally dying, which is why Umineko went to shit so much.
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>>299597
>First 4 chapters were the best writing before it crashed into utter shit
>His ghost writer buddy did most of it
How did this hack ever even gain presence?
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>>299626
DEEN finds a way.
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It’s pretty insane how Sca-Di managed to adapt Tractatus Logico Philosophicus, one of the most complex works of modern philosophy, into a work of fiction with loads of porn, but as silly as it sounds, Subahibi is the real deal. It digests the ideas that would normally require special education to even begin to penetrate, and conveys them in a manner understandable to anyone with barely any experience with philosophy.
SubaHibi has convinced you to live in happiness in your own realistic daily life (if you are open to the message that is) – whilst the entire story is made up of the highest level of artifice – and it directly throws this fact in your face with the very first epigraph. In other words, it is a story about the triumph of Fiction over life, underscoring life, and making life all the more vibrant because of it. The moral of the story is not just “Live Happily” but “Live Happy Fantasies” – the failure of happiness for some of the characters in the work is not due to being delusional, but due to having the wrong delusions. And so, you find yourself drawn – asking: “Why is it that I’ve seen these acts before, done so many times, and yet all of those previous moments were merely amusements? Why is it now that I have realized their full enchantment?” If you examine the constituents of SubaHibi in their individual parts – you come to the same conclusion as what a character described Cyrano de Bergerac as – an easy entertainment designed to make you feel comfortable – not an outstanding play, but a witty and playful one. It is for this exact reason that SubaHibi opens up the highest potential for the metafictional – it keeps you within the circle for the duration of its spell, despite you being fully aware of the circle. It uses that awareness the same way a magician uses misdirection in a magic trick. The more you are aware, the more you find yourself still strangely affected by its contents – and then that sets the stage for the true performance to sink in. 
I personally separate my life to pre-Subahibi and post-Subahibi periods, as reading it has completely changed how I view the world. It taught me to appreciate life much more (or rather in a different way) than I used to and also be more honest with myself. The central theme of 幸福に生きよ! is so poignant in its simplicity that the ideas presented in many other works feel ineffectual in comparison.
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>>299756
I want to unsubscribe from ChatGPT replies.
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>>299757
Unless ChatGPT has cloned this Anon's mind you probably won't be seeing him for much longer.
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>>299767
RIP
>>299756
Is it actually based on it, I actually read and studied the Tractatus and transcribed it and meditated on it to fully learn it, so if the game actually uses it It would be enjoyable simply due to my understanding, the creator better actually understand it himself though or it's gonna be shit.
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>>299784
I wanna get into wittgenstein (never knew how to write his name), maybe I read the Philosophical Investigations this month, I heard is the starter book.
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>>299787
This is my story with him:
>Studying logic
>Aristotle
>misc thoughts on it
>random mathemetician guys.
>All light skimming
>Skim over Plato and his take on concepts "This is interesting"
>I stumble across something about wittgenstein, read his bio, "I wonder if this guy is crazy schizo or knows some stuff" 
>Read/study Tractatus and it takes some real effort but actually makes sense and now I understand how to think better, though It was all concepts I had to come to myself and the tractatus was more a confirmation and work sheet of sorts of how thinking works.
>Look into his other work, get put off nearly immediately and don't read it
He was a gay jew and all that, but I think the tractatus is actually very well done.
>Haven't looked into philosophy since, I agree with Ludwigs ideas about it and like Tractatus. 


Though he wrote on jew tactics and language as a game to get what you want, which sounded good but when I started reading It came off midwit tier to me, maybe it was just too jewish to stomach idk.
Only philosophers worth a damn were Socrates, Diogenes, and Kierkegaard imo
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>>299827
>Diogenes
Normalfag detected.
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>>299890
t. Plato
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>>299827
I used to respect Plato and Socks. Then I realized what their "Noble Lie" layer the foundation for. Fuck 'em, we're going back even further. Homer and Herodotus ho!
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Philosophy in general is gay, case in point: the halfassed ironic shitpost of a bunch of angloid socialists trying to pisstake the politicians they don't like is more relevant to modern civilization than any of the faggots you mentioned.
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>>299923
Now you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Philosophy began as the study of life and figuring out how things worked. They were the scientists of the time, only they wanted to understand the world to make our time in it better, not to pursue science for the sake of science like it was a religion removed from humanity.
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>>299924
Back then, science was called "natural philosophy".
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Reminder that http://virgindb.g.ribbon.to/ exists and it's a great source for detailed information on the virginity of heroines from visual novels released in 2018 or prior. Use Google Translate or something if you can't into runes.
VNDB does have tags related to virginity, but VirginDB is more autistic and detailed.
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>>299932
Would honestly be more useful if it was for h-games since vndb exists.
>>299932
>Only loads properly with tor
huh?
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I finally start playing VNs again after I learned how to get audio/hdmi/bluetooth (which was harder than rocket science) working on linux so I was able to connect it to tv and just chill
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>>300204
Laptop or Nshittia?
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ep 2 is so fucking good. Peak horror. Bout to retread ep 3 again. Rereading higurashi makes me understand the context a lot more, compared to when I first started it.
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I used to be an extroverted person, full of friends and always making new ones. But everything changed when I was 14, and I know what you must be thinking: "What happened? Was it just adolescence?" No, my friend, it wasn't that. It was something much worse. Something that… ruined my life.

It all started on November 15th, 2021. I was determined, there was no turning back. The warnings were everywhere: "Don't do this," "You're going to regret it," "We're telling you for your own safety." But I, stubborn as always, ignored them. And the pain came with an intensity I could never imagine.

With every second, a tightening sensation in my stomach consumed me. With every minute, a piece of my soul seemed to be ripped from me, mercilessly. And with every hour that passed, I felt my old self disappear, giving way to someone I could barely recognize. Depression engulfed me, an unrelenting desire to cry took over, and the wish to disappear became my constant companion.

After three days of skipping school, more specifically around 30 hours of play time, what seemed to be the end arrived. At sunset, that afternoon, only an empty shell remained, lying in bed, surrounded by a sea of tears. I had finished playing "Yosuga no Sora" with Textractor and Bing Translate.

Over four years have passed since that day. I became a closed-off person, shy, full of insecurities. As a male, I began developing a deep misandry, an irrational hatred for everything related to men. I distanced myself from everyone. My paranoia became so strong that I couldn't even trust my own family anymore. When it was time to take a shower, even when the hot water made my eyes burn, I couldn't close them. The feeling of being watched was unbearable. At night, I locked all the doors, pushed heavy chairs against them, as if that could protect me from something invisible, something I feared with all my might. I feared that while I slept, something would happen, something I couldn't control.

I couldn't take it anymore. So, I sought refuge, something that could give me some kind of relief. That's when I found the magical world of Yuri, with its cute girls, its sweet moments, and everything I longed for: something simple, something pure. I began to write stories, read yuri manga and VNs, immerse myself in a universe that made me forget the pain. I felt happy for the first time in years, happy for having freed myself from what had been eating me from the inside.

But happiness, as always, is fleeting. During one of my searches for Yuri fanart, I saw something. And not just anything, but a scene from it. The worst scene. And, like a sharp blade, all the memories of that day, of that pain, flooded my mind. Tears came, like an uncontrollable torrent, and a sharp pain in my chest almost led me to the brink of collapse. I ran and locked the door, turned off the lights, and lay down with my face in the pillow to muffle my screams of anguish. There, I stayed until dawn.

It was then that I realized… No matter what I do, no matter where I try to run, this visual novel will always, ALWAYS haunt me. Whether in the North Pole or the South Pole, heaven or hell, it will always be there, lurking, waiting for me to let my guard down to make me remember all the pain I felt years ago.
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>>301681
Not sure if pasta or not. Sell me on this, I want to suffer too.
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>>301682
I think it's just a refactoring of a muv luv copypasta into a Yosuga one because Yosuga is pretty tame.
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>>301740
Is it actually this bad or just a meme? muv luv, that is
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>>301741
Original Muv Luv is a generic SoL 2000s VN, the sequels are pretty good and radically different. Alternative and Unlimited definitely have too many text dumps though but the buildup and payoff are pretty great IMO. Some people hate them though and they are definitely overrated. There is one particularly unnecessary scene in Alternative so, if you do read it, don't be surprised when it happens because it's just there for shock drama.
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play her game
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>>301790
Edgy, pretentious, overhyped but the girls are toppest tier
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>>301974
>Edgy, pretentious
Sounds like every Nitro VN ever
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>>301992
Nitro+ is proper edgelord fun however.
You can't argue сукаhime being anything other than plain dumb, the girl in the webm in particular being dumber than a pallet of bricks.
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>>301992
And that's why they're amazing.
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>>301994
Type-moon is some intense nip-autism where the first time through its like a bad trip. It only hits you afterwards that how much of it is bullshit and just plain doesn't make sense.
>>301993
Yeah it's pretty bad and the remake isn't any better. Still far from the worst the Nasuverse has to offer.
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Here's the story:  A xitterfag ordered a collectible 1 in 50 Demo Disc for the visual novel Tsukihime. When the package went through custom, they destroyed the disc.
>>302937
I would had done the same, so that my demo disc in my possesion goes up in price.
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>>302937
Custom agent, I kneel.
>>302937
ragab8 I don't belieb
>>302939
((( Collector ))) hands type this post.
If that's true, can you show your own floppy disk?
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>>302945
No.
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>Here's your port of Little Busters! for the Game Boy Advance, Anon
>>302937
何の為に??
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>>303246
A terminally online pile of brown muck who knows what the redheads go through in their VN seems likely desu.
The kind of vibrant pile of muck who would unironically post image related nano desu.
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>>302937
Oh no not his collectibles
>>303254
Damn, anon, that pic needs a triple spoiler.
I'm in a mood for VN, but I'm not looking to read a book. Give me one with plenty of alternative paths, choices/consequences ect. that makes me feel engaged.
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>>304449
Boku no pico.
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>>304452
>Boku no pico.
That's an anime. I'm serious, I have a feeling I would like the genre more if I didn't just click left mouse key every few seconds for "engagement" and I wanna see if anything changes.
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>>304456
It sounds like you are demanding a VN with gameplay.
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vndb founder died, I guess he took the vaccine.
https://archive.ph/20260322012711/https://vndb.org/t24787/1
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>>304452
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>>304535
Anon no
>>304542
https://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/text/jeetpan/
Go back
>>304543
Meant for >>304540
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>>304534
>found dead
does that imply he was alive before?
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>>304545
It's the same fag either way, so don't worry about it.
>>304531
Correct, there has to be some VNs that challenge the ol' noggin in some way instead of just having you blindly moving past dialogue boxes. Point 'n click adventure games of old did this, even something like Phoenix Wright did as well. I'm curious how common having actual game mechanics or at least a plethora of content(branching paths/endings ect.) is in these kinds of games. 

>>304534
Did anyone start archiving the site yet, just in case?
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>>304584
>Did anyone start archiving the site yet, just in case?
https://vndb.org/d14
A full database dump is very small, at around 150 MB. The images, which in my opinion are less important, are at around 45.5 GB total.
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>>304593
Damn I wish more sites had full DB dumps.
>>304584
>there has to be some VNs that challenge the ol' noggin in some way instead of just having you blindly moving past dialogue boxes
VNs are called "adventure games" in Japan for a reason. Many VN have fully fleshed out gameplay. The Baldr series, Alicesoft games, Tokimeki, Princess Maker, hell the RPG genre as a whole is filled with VN/RPG hybrids.
Would VNDB's tag system survive in an archive or would you just have to do everything manually?
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Can anyone spoonfeed me on whether the Tokimeki Memorial games feature cuckshit in the form of eg. bad ends where heroines are taken by a "rival", etc? If it depends on the game, which games have/don't have that?
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>>305091
I wouldn't say there's cuckshit in them. Some heroines are prostitutes and some have a former lover but I don't think there's any routes where anyone is stolen.
>>305091
https://vndb.org/
read the tags.
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>>305135
Do I really want to know?
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>>305143
Know what?
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>>305143
KNOW WHAT???
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>>305196
Wouldn't you like to know.
I don't know.
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>>305196
I don't want to know!
Man I'm playing Muramasa for the first time and I don't think this is for me. I liked chapter 1 a lot and have proceeded to feel nothing since. They killed the girl I like at the end of chapter 3 and it was really underwhelming. I figured that affection points would lead to that but I was expecting something a little more than that. Now I'm stuck in chapter 4 with the schoolgirl I don't care about and I'm struggling to pay attention.
The current goal is to just get a bad ending and then reset but I might just drop it at the bad ending. This isn't doing anything for me.
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>>305452
>I liked chapter 1 a lot
That's the worst the VN has to offer though. If anything, Muramasa at its best is about conflict, fundamentalism, realpolitik, fabricated narratives and how the ego is at the core of human relationships, when even those claiming to bear justice are just selfabsorbed powergrabbers trying to enact their own brand of crusade. I enjoyed the VN greatly when it delivered on these themes neatly, like it does when it centers on the story or its secondary cast. It's a shame given how the main girls themselves blows donkey dick. Consider that the 4 if you count the imouto and her angst of not being dicked 3 including the warmonger schizo blonde bitch 2 girls you're meant to romance are irredeemable garbage, the pottymouth communist high school girl being the least worst of the bunch by virtue of providing with a concise plot in her route.
That being said, if you put up with the two main dumb bitches for both of her routes you'll be treated to a third route and a secret romance partner that's not a fundamentalist nutjob and actually a good girl and the character portrayed in 90% of all scale figures made after the VN Muramasa's mom has more scale figs than the two main girls combined.
tl,dr if you're not in it for the story and the edge you're doing yourself a disservice here, with how ass most of the romance is.
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>>305469
Don't get me wrong, I know what kind of story I was signing up for. I just didn't expect consequences to happen so soon, and with such little fanfare. I feel more like I locked myself out off stuff that I would have been interested in. 

I guess I should just ask if I should reset and play it "properly", or keep going until I hit the route, or keep going until I hit the bad ending and then start over.
Maybe this is the intended first experience a reader should be having and I'd be cheating myself out of that if I reset now, or maybe I really did just completely fuck myself and made the whole experience worse for no benefit and (especially if the bad end sucks too) I should really just go back and do it right before I end up dismissing it entirely.

I like emotional stuff but the game has taken away basically everything that kept me engaged and didn't give me any kind of emotional payoff for it, so I'm very confused because I feel like I'm just playing it wrong more than anything.
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>>305495
>chapter 4
Next chapter you're going to be locked in a bad end cage regardless unless you've made this extremely specific bullshit subset of choices. Really it depends on whether you want to play chapter 5, which is fairly important and a SoL chapter for a change of pace, before or after you wipe your save.
Luckily the game has a very neat keyboard shortcut that takes you directly into the next choice and a built-in fastforward function. If you care looking up the intended route progress https://forums.fuwanovel.moe/topic/25473-full-metal-daemon-muramasa-soukou-akki-muramasa-%E8%A3%85%E7%94%B2%E6%82%AA%E9%AC%BC%E6%9D%91%E6%AD%A3/ being hit with a bad end is no big deal.
>affection points
No idea how these work in case you're referring to the gauging sliders that move for the chapter specific girl. Regardless, the moon-chinned le 100% man and the white power glamrock frontman, the crazy old bastard, the hick prince, the bald asshole and Kageaki's stepdad are far more entertaining/endearing as side characters than any of the female front leads. Stop paying mind to the girls, they're all varying degrees of broken and shit, or at least until you realize who the third main girl is.
>>305469
Muramasa's mom is a hot brown elf. How is it a shocker that's all people wanna do, is knock up the stupid elves?!
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>>305970
>child rape victim suupaa supai chinky mistaa chin
If there's some injoke in here it's lost on me.
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>>305987
All that and she's still better than Sakura. Makes you think.
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>>305989
Nothing wrong with the BPD meido, even after being abused by dicklet vampires.
What's amazing here is how I can't remember anything Fate, having read Stay Night two years ago.
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>>306015
90% of FSN is a boring slog. Ilya, Rin, Giru and Kirei are the only reason people remember it.
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>>306027
>No Shirou
The original fate is probably one of the best character dissections of an MC ever. Change my mind.
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>>306032
For a VN? Probably. In all media? No.
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>>306035
Sorry meant to specify as a VN, but what are your contenders for all media? Aside from Samwise Gamgee
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>>306032
Shirou was a kid with daddy issues who read too much into white knight fantasies and the massive Nasu spaghetti lore doesn't add either.
There's nothing bitch kid Shirou tried to portray that wasn't aced by this mad lad, and that's on VNs alone.
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>>306046
Isn’t your guy both a cuck and a bitch?
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>>306103
Kageaki is a turboautist that's trying to make sense of an insane world filled with insane dickheads. More often than not he makes mistakes and will still double down for the sake of staying true to himself. He's not a character you're meant to self-insert into, nor would you want to live in the VN's setting either.
>cuck
There is plenty of rape featured in the VN but none of the victims were MC's potential romantic partners. IIRC MC does some raping too, entirely out of his mind but still.
Your guy isn't a cuck as much as he's a self-fulfillment power fantasy for dweebs who think they're reading hot shit, not unlike Kirito from SAO.
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>>306816
>He's not a character you're meant to self-insert into, nor would you want to live in the VN's setting either.
You would be surprised.
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this fucking protagonist didn't know what a baguette is
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>>306885
That’s because he’s japanese. They probably call it fura-pan over there.
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Today I learned the japanese call Axolotls uparupas so maybe I'm not much better
>>306885
Come on, anon, not everyone knows about german bread.
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First time I found a hidden (?) gem among the sea of garbage on f95
https://vndb.org/v28943
It's a very comfy romcom where your choices actually matter, it's also really funny (probably even more so if you understand moon runes). Everything about feels like a passion project, like the guy made this sequel to a unpopular 2005 game in his free time for 15 years according to readme for 8 years.
The engine looks ancient, and I got a couple of crashes when selecting some choices. Just as I was typing this I got a crash because textbox couldnt fit a long text in translation, you can fix this by just opening 0.txt in text editor and removing part of the text or splitting it up into multiple shorter strings of dialogue, I should probably report this because it kind of ruined the mood of a serious scene.
Most vn's put me to sleep but this one keeps you in check with choices, I wouldn't say they are all meaningfull but most are or at least produce a funny reaction out of a characters. 
Heroines so far are virgins, I've only read 2 of them but if he decided to make an idol and the raped virgins then I don't see how anyone else could have experience.
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>>308507
Giga-chud here. Apologies for stepping in your thread, but can anyone explain to me the appeal of VNs? I genuinely want to know.

I understand cinematic novel-esque games with good writing (Disco Elysium), mangas, anime, some of the appeal of romance sub-plots in JRPGs and CRPGs. I can understand the appeal of ecchi or hentai—and why 18+ games follow from those two. I cannot piece together the appeal of VNs. Can you anons explain it to me? Are they just well-written ecchi / hentai games or does the community afford itself the ability to take risks with good plots / content because it's already taboo?
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>>308531
>why would people who like reading novels be into virtual novels?
>what's the crossover?
+ Focus on dialogue and usually decent art  / narration that adds the emotion / tone of the scene without 2 pages of exposition
>>308531
This is a fair comment to make. VNs that are just stories can barely be called video games and the mainstream view of VNs is they are like books but worse, like videos but worse, and like games but worse. The reason you struggle to understand is because you aren't seeing the medium for what it is and are looking at it from the lens of a different medium. This is the same thing that trips up game journos  the ones that prefer movies that is when they review games.
VNs are also not really a unified genre and are called something different in Japan (ADV or adventure games). This is important to remember because "VNs" sprouted from the point and click adventure games of old. Spirit Hunter and Ace Attorney are a good examples of "modern" VNs showing their point and click adventure game roots. However I suspect you mean kinetic novels and CYOA style novels over those I'd have to say that part of it is a degree of control over the narrative (even if that control is limited to just how fast you read), part is how the other elements are used to complement the writing, and part is the lowered barrier of entry allow stories that you'd normally never see get made see the light of day for better or for worse.
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>>308531
If you're old (or retro) enough to be remember with western games in the 90s or 80s, you're familiar with adventure games and their increasingly ostentatious puzzles. In the west these collapsed under their own weight, leaving behind only the artsy fartsy "interactive fiction" community and an even tinier handful of point&click graphical adventure enthusiasts. My personal favorite was the intermediate graphical games with command parsers, but nobody gives a fuck about those anymore.

This didn't happen in Japan, instead it continued to this day getting even more convoluted than Roberta Williams' nadir of rub-every-item-on-every-other-item puzzles, with totally insane invisible flag graphs that flat out require either a guide or enterprise-grade debugging procedures to discover the hidden perfect S-rank route.

Or you could just play a linear kinetic novel, you pussy.
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>>308531
I would like h-games more if it wasn't all one of two things
>insanely boring cohab games
>cg hunter rpgmaker trash with all default assets because the dev just wanted to sell his pixiv gallery, bonus points if the art is terrible
With a VN I usually get what I signed up for, a glorified picture book with H in it. With stuff like h-games I can get blindsided by unlisted tags or shit gameplay.
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>>308542
NTA but What about era games?
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>>308545
I was just talking generally. Era games aren't really VNs anyway.
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>>308540
> My personal favorite was the intermediate graphical games with command parsers, but nobody gives a fuck about those anymore.
If you're talking about plain old static graphics (not Sierra AGI/SCI type engine), the retro scene is still making those types of games. Just a few examples:
https://www.cpcgamereviews.com/review/1404/
https://www.cpcgamereviews.com/review/581/
https://www.cpcgamereviews.com/review/627/
https://www.cpcgamereviews.com/review/2424/
https://www.cpcgamereviews.com/review/2483/
I doubt you'll find much erotic stuff though.
>>308531
>>308536
The best happy medium would be a VN with plenty of choices and branching paths, or maybe a lightweight gameplay element added to it. Problem is that most of them are just straightforward books, instead of turning pages you press the left mouse button over and over again and that's your "gameplay". This simply does not appeal to many people no matter how good the stories and characters themselves are, and the autists that are into the genre simply don't care and in fact, welcome their games not attracting as many people as they could(and with the modern state of gaming, can you blame them?). I stand on the side of people who would rather read actual books instead, likewise I would rather play an H-RPG instead of an eroge since there is gameplay involved in it, so unless I get a really good recommendation I either read a real book or play a proper point n click adventure game to satisfy my itch.
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>>308578
Era games are good.
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>>305135
Are there any good VNs that aren't just poor man's porn or author self insert harem fantasies? Looking for something that has horror and a psychological element to it, there can be hentai as long as it doesn't disturb the former two elements.
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>>308641
There's babby's first VN
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>>308658
Babies can't read though? Or let alone operate a computer.
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>>308660
How do you know?
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>>308661
There isn't evidence that they can.
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>>308662
Oh yeah? Explain all the babies with tablets.
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>>308663
There are often toddlers with tablets but not babies and even the toddlers with tablets are consuming or partaking in things on them that don't require literacy.
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>>308664
no
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>>308717
Denial.
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