/tech/ - Technology

If you're cautious enough, any social media account can be anonymous. Conversly, if your persistant enough, you can find out anyones identity. You can be pretty mask off if all you do is create "burner" accounts. I think that's the reason why a lot of anons moved to Twitter after the cripple diaspera.

>>18588 (OP) 
Maybe usenet, as you can just register a few accounts at different servers and just randomly switch between them. Although it would work better if it still had enough traffic so that people don't even notice if someone randomly disappears and then someone with the same writing style shows up.

>>18590
>>18591
>just make a bunch of different accounts, lol
If I asked this question five years ago, I'd have people tripping over themselves to say how that isn't at all the same usecase, the difference between anonymity and psuedonymity, that the mere act of creating an account/logging an e-mail completely change the medium, etc.. There's something to be said about this medium that greatly discourages even so much as namefagging. E.g., your ego _must_ take a back seat--it doesn't exist. I want to hang out in places like that more.
Is this really it? Because this medium is dying.

>>18594
>I want to hang out in places like that more.
>Is this really it? Because this medium is dying.
There are several faster imageboards than this place that aren't called 4chan. All you can do about the decline of imageboard culture is refer people you know irl or through other social media that you have. There is very little organic growth now on 4chan and basically no one reaches other imageboards because 4chan is so awful they don't even stick around to find other places.

>>18594
>>18595
There are two problems.
1, many sites come and go, too many without a backup, so posting is essentially gambling for all your effort to just be "gone" at some point.
2, the lack of good information.
Too many sites like allchans have outdated or wrong info (or even spam).
And it definitely isn't organized nicely, so have fun manually searching through 100 websites and 500 boards.
And it doesn't help that the blame is always on the newfag for not lurking more.

>>18596
>many sites come and go, too many without a backup, so posting is essentially gambling for all your effort to just be "gone" at some point
Ephemerality is the point of imageboards. I don't want to use a place where half the catalog is years old threads that get one reply a month. On the other hand, my two main imageboards are pretty fast but have communities that are 9 and 12 years old.
>Too many sites like allchans have outdated or wrong info (or even spam).
>And it definitely isn't organized nicely, so have fun manually searching through 100 websites and 500 boards.
I've talked to the allchans admin, he's an alright guy and has some standards for adding boards. My only issue with the site is that the list is clogged up by sharty splinters  They really should be in a separate list at this point.

>>18598
>ephemeral is the point
>slow replies to old threads bad
Maybe that's the kind of website you want, but that doesn't mean everyone wants that kind of website.
>allchans admin is alright
That doesn't address even a single point I made.

>>18601
>Maybe that's the kind of website you want, but that doesn't mean everyone wants that kind of website.
Most people, especially newfags, see an imageboard with months old replies and years old threads as dead ones. You can't have a conversation if you're waiting days or weeks for a reply, you're just posting ritualistically at that point.
>That doesn't address even a single point I made.
What points? Almost all the links on allchans are alive and point to active imageboards. The only problem is that most of the info posts use AI summaries now because users aren't submitting info.

>>18602
>You can't have a conversation if you're waiting days or weeks for a reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_(message)

Bigger picture, are chans really the only anonymous medium (not psuedonymous--anonymous) of exchange? Bitmessage, Zeronet, I2P, Tor--nothing exists there? There's one techstack for this stuff?

>>18605
Or even the same anonymity approach of chans, but:
- Really strict character limit posts.
- Anonymized voice chat (somehow).
- text-only.
- Etc..
I know a lot of those are dumb, but the idea is just to have the same idea where anonymity and ego destruction is the primary driver, just implemented as many different ways as there are other media sites.

>>18605
Does cytube have an anonymous messaging mode?

>>18602
>Most people, especially newfags
Just want to say nigger-word in pisscord. If that's your idea of ideal imageboard, you'll be forever stuck with literal children because everyone else got bored and went to look for more substantial communication.

>>18605
Bitmessage has a type of forum called a chan where people can reply anonymously. Bitchan is an imageboard that uses that under the hood, you can access it over Tor and I2P.
http://bitchanr4b64govofzjthtu6qc4ytrbuwbgynapkjileajpycioikxad.onion/

>>18609
Stop arguing with things no one said.

What happened to nanochan and lambdachan?

>>18618
nano 1 died and nano 2 accepts irl pedophilia

there's some turmoil on lambda right now because some of the moderators dislike the pedophilia that is currently allowed (only non explicit)

you get globally auto banned here if you link lambda, so search for it yourself

>>18619
I love pedophilia.

>>18619
I found lambda. There is no CP there. But pedophilia yes.
How to find nanochan 2?

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>>18588 (OP) 
As (>>18590) said anything can be just as anonymous, though the very creation of an account makes it so you have a footprint, even if it's with a fake name, here every single post has no strings attached, I personally prefer the way imageboards work the most, though some classic styled forums can also be fun with unique usernames too.

>>18619
>>18620
I hate pedophilia.

>>18625
hahahah you're fucking retarded
as expected of a pedophile

>>18641
>I hate pedophilia.
Why?

>>18605
Imageboards are probably the only anonymous medium on the clear net, which by design makes them the most accessible. Few anons would be willing to use an alternative browser or, heaven forbid, an "app" to access a specific anonymous community.

>>18607
You can chat on Cytube anonymously, just pick a guest name every time you open a channel.

>>18627
>the very creation of an account makes it so you have a footprint
The worse part, which people often overlook, is the amount of friction required to not only create such an account but also keep it alive. Most if not all social media requires a phone number to sign up, and even if you bypassed that requirement, you're very likely to get your account terminated or shadow banned at any time for using a VPN / saying the wrong thing / "suspicious activity"...etc.
Imageboards don't have that problem.

>>18606
>- Really strict character limit posts.
That encourages low effort, personal, and emotional posting rather than fleshing out ideas, ergo it goes against your supposed ideals of "ego destruction", Einstein. Shitcord and other IMs are all about identityfaggotry and they're dominated by short messages. Xitter is all about identityfaggotry and it has a strict character limit.

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>>18646
>You can chat on Cytube anonymously, just pick a guest name every time you open a channel.
That's pseudonymous messaging, even if you're manually cycling through names. It's noticeably distinct from anonymous messaging as imageboard anons speak of it, hence why we distinguish namefags from anons.
>>18647
>Shitcord
Its regular name is more descriptive of how it sucks. All you really have to do is draw attention to how anyone who says anything like "I use discord" or "we talk through discord" sounds like a malevolent schemer, and you'll do more damage to their brand than calling it shit ever will.

>>18605
>>18646
IRC (is on the clearnet).

>>18588 (OP) 
IRC does not always force you to  have an account.

>>18650
Almost every IRC bans Tor and VPN. IRC is totalitarian spyware.

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>>18648
>pic
The projection of this diseased kike death cult pisses me off too much.

>>18652
All info can be faked but It's always bothered me why IRC in particular does this. Not only that but nearly always first thing that happens when you join any irc is that your ip gets publicly logged in chat which means if that is a legit address you are 1 open port away from being fucked over. It is evil and just a little bit better than giving your ((( cell phone ))) it all amounts to abuse/disrespect and ultimately hatred to the users.

Anyway you're a retard and need help if you give your legitimate information to any of these faggoted services and applications. Delete them right now if you did. Nothing they could possibly provide is worth your privacy and data being sold to jews.

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Reminder that discord was developed by leftwing, anti white, jewish baby fur pedo faggots which in 2025 sold the entire thing to a literal jew that lives in tel aviv. Discord is a thinly veiled PR¨SM data harvesting operation that's used to build a profile on you to feed into dystopian fed zog's servers which could put everyone's life in danger in the future. 

If you agree to using such a platform and anything like it you're a stupid faggot. If you still want to be on there, you can only after an amount of effort which normies will never do, but that involves still trusting the application which has baked in spyware like instant remote screen sharing permissions. 

Reminder that most of the services on the internet are only "free" because they make money off data mining your person. And believing their argument that they supposedly make their money off "ads" makes very little sense as most people block this now except some goyim phone users locked in their dumb phone.

>>18643
Anyone that has ever distributed CSAM deserves the death penalty.

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>>18654
Even if Discord was made by muh bayzed nahtzees, even if it was genuinely free or transparently monetized, the fundamental structure of the service is intolerable.

So-called "servers" are not. Everything is hosted on one centralized server owned and operated privately by one private entity, it is accessed solely using an undocumented closed protocol, solely implemented in one proprietary inaccessible server software and the one official bloated undocumented JS web bloat proprietary obfuscated client that is full of native OS-level spyware and has incredibly crappy UI. All interactions between every part of this closed system are tightly monitored and recorded in unknowable ways for unknowable ends.

3rd-party clients are banned, backing up or archiving anything (there is no public export format) locally even from "your" "server" is banned, bots and bridges are severely restricted, the fiction of "public 'invites'" and "just a heckin smol bean chat app bro!" cuts it off from search spider indices which are also banned.

And not only is the architecture insanely fascist in principle, in practice it's run by the pettiest possible powermad troonitors who always require an email address from everyone and (even before the recent facecam/real-ID controversy) routinely demand phone numbers. For any offense ranging from normal bans and reports in some groomer coomer's "server", up to completely random shit that happens outside Discord linked to your account by pure hearsay, your account can be sanctioned or banned, and the contents of "your" "server" edited, locked, or deleted, with no warning or recourse.

Compare Discord to some more normal social media like Facebook, X, or whatever, where at least you can find its contents with a normal web search engine, view it in a web browser, and make or view an archive, in addition to usually reasonably capable a public API, all without logging in or even having an account.

Same with other less web-like stuff, such as Telegram, email listservs, or IRC, where automatically mirroring it into other protocols and archives is practical and unimpeded.


Discord is an almost uniquely overreaching protocol level attack against your computer's user experience, browsers, TCP/IP, the web, and the Internet itself.

>>18666
Although it's not the same thing, the part about protocols does somewhat remind me of Microsoft and the Halloween documents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween_documents
>Document I suggests that one reason that open source projects had been able to enter the server market is the market's use of standardized protocols. The document then suggests that this can be stopped by "extending these protocols and developing new protocols" and "de-commoditiz[ing] protocols & applications".

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>>18667
Watching, especially, the horror of web browsers devolving over the years, I've come more and more to feel multiple independent proprietary software packages implementing well documented public APIs is a better approach than freely available source code nobody understands and everybody just keeps piling spaghetti on top of.

>>18663
The FBI does that.

>>18670
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_(fallacy)

>>18663
>CSAM
Anyone who uses politically correct corporate nuspeak deserves the death penalty.