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How does /tech/ feel about tablets in general? I find that they failed to become the laptop replacements many thought they'd become back then, mainly due to their OS, which is funny looking back as Windows 8 ruined a lot of Microsoft's reputation because they were certain that iPads would be the end of them... however they're still good at being what Steve Jobs introduced them as, something between the computer and smartphone, that's worse than both in general, but better than all other devices in a few specific things, justifying their purpose to be.

I personally love mine as its replaced my laptop for most things, due to my usecase allowing for it, but it's also the best device I have for a lot of things, like digital art, reading comic books and manga, books and document reading in general, and media consumption, it's great.
I don't see them as computers. They're less convenient than smartphones and less useful than laptops. They have uses as paper/book/clipboard replacements, but that's it.
I don't really see tablets as anything more than just digital paper and  less clunky video players that you had from the early 2000s.
>>16332 (OP) 
They're not personal computers but novelty consumer items for tech illiterates that are locked down actively preventing freedom for the user. When you buy one of these devices you buy and contribute to the idea of a portable jail.

They do not want a computer revolution to happen(unix/linux) with these handheld devices while depriving users of the ability to read write and modify code on a regular basis.
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>>16335
Instead of tablets, back in the day we had these. You could program them, and some even had quality keyboards. Of course you could carry a laptop but those were much bigger/heavier and used more battery power.
The main problem is the web. It's totally stupid nowadays, because everyone assumes you have the latest version of Chrome or Firefox. When they designed the standards, they never bothered to make a fallback for weaker systems or text browsers. They could have built this into the standard, but they either don't give a shit, or they do it on purpose to be sure everyone is running vulnerable systems running on bloatware.
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>>16335
>locked down actively preventing freedom for the user
>depriving users of the ability to read write and modify code
Strongly agree. They're oversized smartphones with all the surveillance cancer that comes with those. They'd be convenient power efficient computers if they weren't artificially locked down for the sole purpose of surveillance.

I could put up with the babby OS, but not with these motherfuckers stealing every bit of information, system logs, app data backups, what apps you open, file metadata, what you do on the device, how often you turn on the fucking flashlight. Not only do they lock the bootloader, Apple locks userspace applications, Jewgle would too if they could, the day will come when APK is app store only.

Proprietary locked down shitfest that Microsoft could only dream of.
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>>16332 (OP) 
I find that tablets are pretty terrible at managing their RAM compared to smartphones and desktops/laptops of similar specifications, OOM killing tasks much more often, making them less viable as desktop/laptop replacements honestly.

Anyone else experience this with them? It makes multitasking a pain.
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>>16362
This is more an Android problem:
>programs are written in java
>programs are designed to be able to be killed at any time
https://developer.android.com/guide/components/activities/process-lifecycle
<application process's lifetime isn't directly controlled by the application itself. Instead, it is determined by the system through a combination of the parts of the application that the system knows are running, how important these things are to the user, and how much overall memory is available in the system.
This means incorrectly coded programs can hog ram, or simply gets killed if not aggressively attention seeking enough.
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>>16366
Actually it's more of a you don't own the device you paid for problem. A lot of us would install gentoo and be happy with our 1-2 GB memory footprint, enjoying nothing getting killed ever. The board and display are sitting right there, fully able to run any code. That is the natural state of hardware. ((( Corporations ))) go out of their way to employ people whose job is coming up with ways to block that.
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Apple's changes to iPadOS 26 might genuinely make it a MacBook replacement for a lot more people than before.
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>>16367
If the EU wanted to fuck with the US and China, they would make it mandatory to unlock the bootloader of a goyphone, and make the device tree public. In a worst case scenario they could make it mandatory once the device stops receiving official software updates, that would be still enough to stop a whole lot of people from buying a new one every few years. Especially if they mandated that banks must make their apps OS neutral to a certain degree.
>>16402
What's a MacBook?
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>>16404
As much as people make fun of that commercial, with iPadOS 26 it's sort of coming true, many people's use cases will be more than satisfied by the iPad alone, it's crazy to see them finally pull it off.
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>>16332 (OP) 
I'm trying to connect my Galaxy Tab A8 to my TV through HDMI, but it only has USB C 2.0, so even with a simple adapter it's not working. Is there any alternative? The only tablets with USB C 3.1 or 3.2 are flagships for some reason.
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>>16742
No.
Only USB ports that also double as DisplayPorts can transmit video. A regular USB-C 4 can't.
If you want that you should look for minicomputers or laptops.
It is not an expected feature on mobile devices.
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posting in nigger mode do not read
>>16332 (OP) 
Posting on a Lenovo M8 right now. As I was neet for far too long, or perhaps not long enough, and often had to go into public to get WiFi/Internet, my parents forced me to have one as a present back during android 4.4 era....So basically due to cost I "like" the android tablets. There is a ton of apk files to use that I've archived and I also use them on cellphones.  I would love cellphones to die but some clunky, underpowered, poorly programmed raspberry pi is not going to help me out as much. Even if it did they cost more and use more power/watts. It's easy to work with. I use it for Retro games (emulationi), books, browsing, video watching (my tablet has a 1tb micro sd in it), it's pretty okay. The video watching though, some codecs won't work and you cannot fix that on an embedded system. This makes me want to make another pi computer that I can make sure can play all files, but then again simply using my (non-networked) cia10 computer and handbreak I can fix that faster and easier through a strategy of converting the video files.... well, maybe not FASTER, but easier.... video converting takes fucken forever.... so there I go thinking "make a pi computer...." once again.  Eventually I'll get on that...Yeah.....another reason is that I like anchoring it over my head so I can lay down and be on the thing. I have a bunkbed and it's sorta tethered to the bottom of the bars of the top bunk with me on the bottom bunk so it hangs over my face. I use the top bunk for storage.   Back onto what made me use them though, it was not my idea. I had no money and wanted another winxp era business laptop back during kitkat 4.4 but they said lol no this is cheaper and new as I bitched about it. Now I just gave up even though I have a job now. I could go buy some really expensive umpc that's premade but I won't..... so don't ask me as I'm not tech, more of a bum-prepper and a miser. I like that I can keep the tablet going with my batteries and solar panels. I ended up having tents, tiny 5v fans, 40w tiny 12v fridge, etc, that all goes with the dysptopian thing. One time when I had android 5 I tried to program a lua game but backwards compatiblity became an issue and I gave up. Was messing with love2d of which an older version of that was ported to the android. With older winxp business laptops I suffered similiar backwards compatibility issues. Due to being so poor that is one reason I never got tech tier. I was afraid to root an android as I had no money for another so I got used to never using the command line. One time I tried using the command line to install a gui to picore on a raspberry pi zero and it didn't work. The WiFi hotspot I got from a library didn't work with it for some reason so I could not get the WiFi modules to let me download the GUI. This is another event that taught me learned helpessness in regards to staying on a tablet. They even sell tablets out in the impoverished areas for even cheaper than normal, like 30 usd. Sometimes they give away cellphones for free on top of this.  Sorry if you actually read all that anon. Here is an image of my first android tablet, kitkat 4.4, shoved into a plastic nightmare I made to make it feel not like a tablet.... A tray sticks out form under the bed's mattress that has the keyboard on it. 

tl;dr: only niggers use tablets. It's why it has no spellcheck so you can out niggers. The sword was dumpster dived. Yes that is cardboard covering bare wires of a broken AC adapter. I made it box shaped out of a box. :*) 
>>16362
I have often force stopped applications while raging in the past. 
>>16335
I concur. 
>>16337
Nothing before Sony Vaio UX Micro PC counts. Maybe the gp2x. Why would you have a computer that cannot play a video game nor watch a video/etc? *shudders* 
>>16338
>the nose ring
Nice touch lol 
>>16404
>>16405
>a child touch typing would not know what a computer is
I can see why people make fun of the video..... 

Imageboards know better. Halfcuck range banned all mobile ISP years ago. We know how we are. Not children NIGGERS and also /bums/neets use these things. 

I'd sage this but I think y'all should know, you know?
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>>16747
>Halfcuck range banned all mobile ISP years ago.
1. Wifi exists
2. I know boomers who use mobile internet for their desktop pcs (my parents)
3. Everything you just wrote was entirely deranged. Apply yourself
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>>16746
I see, that's a shame, otherwise my cheap tablet could've been a perfect Nintendo Switch like for emulation. I guess I'll have to upgrade at some point, maybe a used Tab S7 or Tab S8 with HDMI output, then I'll have a genuine portable PC that can double as a handheld for cheap without being as excessive as a proper handheld PC, also more versatyle with controllers and keyboards being an addon I can put on and remove at will. Anyways, thanks for clearing it up, anon! I guess for now wireless will have to do.
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>he actually read it
Follow directions! Geez!
>>16752
1)Wifi existing does not negate mobile ISP being blocked and it is blocked for a good reason (the point of the post was that they are blocked due to lower post quality). 
2) People using mobile Internet for use of what site? Not halfcuck I can assure you.  They require tokens/passes and mobile ISP isn't static but dynamic and so you'd have to buy the pass over and over again every time the IP changes as the range ban reapplies itself. 
3) I applied myself to ur mom (one of your parents).
4) it wasn't me it was Zozo! I have a Luigi board wallpaper on my tablet!
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>>16754
>(the point of the post was that they are blocked due to lower post quality). 
Ban evasion is a more likely reason 
>3) I applied myself to ur mom (one of your parents).
You probably did. Sad reality is that all women fuck around before they settle down.
>>16332 (OP) 
Based on my own experiences, they simply became redundant once smartphones became more and more powerful and larger
>>16770
Not a fan of the big smartphones, but I did the math and agree: a flagship phone makes more sense than buying a new tablet every few years. Plus it's less e-waste later.
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>>16332 (OP) 
They would be great if I could install and delete whstever I wanted. they have the same as ohones. They are just bigger phones when they should be portable PCs instead.
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>>16772
>when they should be portable PCs instead.
I think one of Microsoft's Surface products tries this, not many seem to care for it though...
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>>16778
That's too expensive and I'm pretty sure i can't install linux on that.
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>>16779
I think older models are quite cheap used and allow for Linux installs, often with all of the touchscreen and rotation features working well, not sure which ones and which distros though, but I'm sure Ubuntu worked on many.
>>16770
>>16771
I'd say the smartphone's screen, even with them being big nowadays, doesn't compare to a tablet's for content and for tasks. I find the smartphone and tablet combo/ecossystem to be ideal to be honest, I barely use my actual computer nowadays, don't really need to, at least not for 90% of tasks.
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>>16332 (OP) 
Galaxy Tab S10 Ultra
Galaxy Tab S10 Plus
Galaxy Tab S10 FE Plus
Galaxy Tab S10 FE
Galaxy Tab S10 Lite

...

All of these, and no regular Galaxy Tab S10 with HDMI output, but 11' base screen. Why did Samsung get rid of the best model? Also expecting to see a Galaxy Tab A10 sometime soon, and it'll probably be just as bad as the Galaxy Tab A9 Plus, which is a real shame. Why is HDMI output such a premium feature in tablets even though every laptop, no matter how weak, has it?
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>>16337
>>16332 (OP) 
So what about E-Ink/E-paper tablets?

I know these are pretty comfy for book and PDF reading, but other than that there's not much. The interface could perhaps help with those seeking more productivity-related stuff

Ever tried or used one?
>>16878
The refresh rate is annoyingly slow for some of them. They are not just a display because the controller needs to know when to partially refresh and when to wipe the screen completely. That's why their controllers are pretty expensive, most of them communicate by i2c, spi or other protocols, even if you get a module, xorg wouldn't work out of the box.
Can't use in the dark.
Colored and high density display are expensive.
These aside, they are cool and better for eyes. I wanted to get one as a tty display.
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>>16332 (OP) 
What's the actual point of Samsung's new Galaxy Tab S10 Lite? It's just a slightly weaker Galaxy Tab S10 Lite, or a repeat of the Galaxy Tab S9 FE, just with a new red color. Is this meant to replace the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite? Well, about time, but when it's so similar to the Galaxy Tab S10 FE, and of similar price, it feels kind of pointless, while the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite was cheaper.

What's the deal with Samsung?
>>16332 (OP) 
I just see tablets as manga/comic readers. I've heard of e-readers before but it just doesnt look good with manga. Bad colors etc. Other than that i consider tablets for rhythm games. So all in all rhythm games and reading manga. Not much else to do with a tablet. Maybe rewatch a movie? But i would not consider watching a movie on such a small screen. Perhaps only if was travelling somewhere.
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>>16878
I have always noped them because I don't buy things that need to be 'jailbroken' to be used for copyright infringing, the nice ones would need it and it gets harder every year to do it I've read, and also the generic ones say they don't support very big micro sds so I noped them both  myself. Not them though the screen using so little electricity sounded neat...on 'paper'....never mind. I may eventually get a very old small one and a wiki-reader to go with it. 
>>16905
They are just large cellphones but they only have wifi (and bluetooth). Basically the cheapest computer you can buy, that's all. Often they sucked with reading manga because many were made to be viewd in landscape not portrait and viewing it on the side with it's poor lcd quality made you feel like you were going blind in one eye.
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>>16906
>I have always noped them because I don't buy things that need to be 'jailbroken' to be used for copyright infringing
That's only Kindle. I have a Kobo and I can freely transfer EPUBs/PDFs/CBZs/etc through USB without "jailbreaking" or anything like that.
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>>16742
I've tried connecting it wirelessly to the TV through Smart View... it "works" I guess, for watching things it's perfect, or just browsing, but for something like video games, which would've been my main use case, the delay makes it unplayable.
>>16906
https://linuxnews.de/pinenote-e-ink-tablet-wiederauferstanden/
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>>16335
>They do not want a computer revolution to happen(unix/linux)
Most of the important work on linux in recent years was done by corporations like Valve though. You're ignoring that Linux tablets are also a thing and one of the big 2 DEs is specifically made to be more accessible for tablet users.
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TBH, most things tablets and laptops are used for could be done better with an HMD of some kind. Maybe VRDs will make a splash eventually?

>>16878
e-ink should be absolutely amazing, but nobody uses it properly because engineers are all brainwashed by LCD's limitations. There are two major fumbles that infuriate me.

First, in spite of their internal panels all inherently supporting bistability, no mass produced e-ink tablet offers it, due to the support chipsets and firmware drivers all being configured wrong.

If bistable e-ink was unfucked, tablets could display a static page forever with zero battery drain, wake on certain user inputs (e.g.: page turn) for a as little as a fraction of a second to do a few CPU cycles and one screen refresh (not even necessarily for all pixels!), and then completely power down. Battery life would jump from "days" to "years".

Second, in spite of rollable/flexible e-ink prototypes dating back before PCs existed, full prototype concept phones since the 2000s, and naked "raw" OEM panels serial produced for offer via wholesale parts catalogs for years now, no finished mass market e-reader exists with such a display. The best they've made now are rigid curved displays, and "foldable" devices consisting of a few rigid seam hinged segments.

With a flexible display, an e-reader could combine the readability of traditional paper large formats (trade paperback, letter legal, broadsheet) with the convenient size of a small object such as a paper fan.

>>16770 
This. The phablet menace can't be overstated, tablets and phones are going to vanish as distinct products extremely soon if current trends hold.

I recently tried shopping for a new Android phone with a discrete battery small enough to fit in a normal men's pocket and I think they literally do not make them anymore
>>17320
That's like 8 times more expensive than the cheapest android tablets and it's not even available yet.
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>>17329
This.

I'd just get a cheap Galaxy instead.
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>>16332 (OP) 
Do you guys think foldables will replace tablets in the future?
>>17322
>You're ignoring that Linux tablets are also a thing
NTA but I'd like to know more, what tablet runs Linux nowadays? How does that work?
I just bought a 100 bucks amoled tablet for reading manga and books and it's amazing.
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>>17658
Welcome to the club, anon. These things are indeed pretty cool for some usecases.
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>>17691
Yeah, and of course, with android, if someone doesn't knows the meta; uninstall google shit using your computer terminal, fdroid, aurora store etc... I am missing something?
But should I install one of those android distros or the default one should be enough?
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>>17693
No idea, I just keep everything default. I've pretty much accepted I can't protect my data so I gave up.
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>>17694
It's not just about protecting data, or even bloat, it's just sheer restrictiveness of the Google handrails. Like, I wanted to adjust headphone volume in increments finer than 1/10, I look online "Oh, you gotta root it to do that".
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>>17696
I never knew how to root a phone. Once I tried to root a xiaomi phone I had and they make you create an account and wait like a week or two just so you can root it. It's so annoying.
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>>17697
>having to file an application to take control of your device
10/10 botnet goyims
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>>17698
The good part about Android is anything will let you root it with enough fussing and it's always designed to allow that. The bad part about Android is the ease with which rooting can be done varies ENORMOUSLY, so if you're the one picking it's a very good idea to shop ahead and pick the most cooperative device.

Same for other stuff like long term OS updates, and 3rd-party distro/driver support.
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>>16332 (OP) 
I had a nightmare today where my tablet broke... posting on zzzChan from it now and I'm full of relief, I love this thing.
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