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Out of the blue, Donald Trump begins another US+Israel war against Iran again, without any justification in the eyes of international law or even US Congress.

>Iranian Supreme Leader and most of the upper echelon of government all killed
>But somehow decapitation strike ultimately failed and the Iranian government is still functioning and responding coherently
>Israel blowing up hospitals in Iran now as well as other parts of civilian infrastructure
>Over 1,000 Iranians dead now
>Israel is also pounding Lebanon hard and trying to expand its borders again
>Iran has been striking US bases and embassies and perhaps civilian sites all over the middle east along with Israel
>Strait of Hormuz closed. Global energy market in trouble
>UAE received the most incoming fire of all gulf states, probably because they froze Iranian financial assets under US's direction
>Iran poised to deplete the all interceptor missiles before long
>UK is lending support to US invasion
>France seems to be supporting UAE a bit
>Belgium claims international law doesn't need to apply to Iran
>NATO's Secretary General Mark Rutte says they like the war but stresses there is no intention of having NATO enter the war, though countries may individually decide to do so
>Spain told US to fuck off and wants no part of this war
>Trump is buttmad, tried to embargo Spain, but that doesn't really work with EU economic zone, and claims he can use Spain's airfields anyway because Spain is not gonna say no (except they did)
>Trump also claims he has to be involved in the appointment of Iran's next supreme leader. No signs of this happening
>Timescale of war keeps expanding from 3 days to weeks to months to September to no clear end in sight
>Everyone believes interceptor stockpiles are due to run out soon though

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>>14139 (OP) 
>But somehow decapitation strike ultimately failed and the Iranian government is still functioning and responding coherently
It did not fail, kikes and their slaves just didn't expect the Persians to use the incredibly advanced plan of telling every second-in-command to automatically assume his superior's position if something happens, and that they should just continue doing their job even if the chain-of-command is shattered.
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Alba and Qatalum smelters are shut down, if the Strait of Hormuz will continue to be shutdowned aluminum prices could rise to the 2022 covid shutdown level
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MQ-9 shot down, Lorestan, Iran
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Iranian state media keeps showing downed drones. Are american drones that shitty?
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Iran struck Ebil, Iraq and Dubai
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Suspicious movements in Erbil 
American vehicles heading toward the border with Iran
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Fuel supply cycle stopped in Israel 

>The hacker group "Cyber Support Front" in its latest report announced an attack on one of the largest fuel supply companies in the occupied territories, named HLD, which belongs to the Ministry of Defense of the Israeli regime and supplies more than half of the gas stations throughout that regime.

>Also, this company has deep ties with the US military.

>In its report, the hacker group published documents showing that the mentioned company supplied US warships in the recent conflict, which seems to have caused serious disruptions in fuel supply for the US and Israeli regime war systems
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Ali Al Salem Airbase, Kuwait
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The American embassy has been shutdown in Kuwait
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Video supposedly showing an American pilot after ejecting over Iraq
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Israel moving tanks towards the Lebanese border
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I hate this administration, it gets tiresome
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>>14152
Ackschually those are SPGs, not tanks (M109 Paladin).
<continues watching
... and also tanks
>>14139 (OP) 
Forgot to mention but the alliance once again attacked Iran while in the middle of US-Iranian negotiations. Last time it was Israel that attacked in the middle of US-Iranian negotiations, now it's the Trump administration itself. He gave 10 days then attacked like 2 days into it. Oman, which was mediating the talks, says Iran was willing to concede a lot in the interest of a deal, but it looks like the US wanted Iran to basically disarm its rockets, drones, and navy, which was obviously not happening. 

>>14144
Iran is one of the foremost experts on drones and rockets and has been studying American weaponry for a long time (at least since Bush's Axis of Evil speech but likely decades before that too) with an eye to defending against them. It's possible that Iran just has really good defenses.
Post that Codegayass mountain battle clip
>>14155
>says Iran was willing to concede a lot in the interest of a deal
I should specify that Oman said Iran was willing to concede a lot with regards to its nuclear interests in the interest of a deal.
>>14155
>It's possible that Iran just has really good defenses.
And some of the most ridiculously defensible terrain on this planet.
The bloodbath that will follow will make early ukraine war look like playground.
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>>14151
US is denying it, but the tweet was edited. Originally they denied a crash, now they are specifically denying a shootdown.
On the other hand, the parachute being all white makes me question it. Don't US ejection parachutes usually have orange for rescue visibility? The ones on those F-15s did.
Iraqi police aren't necessarily going to be the most reliable for quickly and accurately confirming/denying such rumours.
What happens when everyone runs out of interceptor missiles?
Can USrael out-bomb or out-produce the Iranian drone stockpile?
Will the rest of NATO have to forcibly divert their already depleted Ukraine-oriented Patriot/IRIS-T SLX/etc. stocks, or will Duptanyahoo be impeached by that point?
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>>14144
>Are american drones that shitty?
>>14155
>It's possible that Iran just has really good defenses.
Those were recon/surveillance drones, basically sitting ducks for missiles.
Given that most of their leadership got clapped on day 1, I wouldn't call that "really good defenses".
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In naval news
>Iran closes Strait of Hormuz
>Trump offers free insurance and escort to ships passing it
>one ship, "Iron Maiden", headed to China passes unmolested
>Iranian representative states they never closed the strait, just said to be careful for incoming missiles
>china said to be in negotiations
I have a feeling this will end with one of these chinese bulk carriers getting sabotaged and them sending their fleet to escort them. 
Also
>western propaganda starts mentioning Americans needing to take over Kharg Island, which is a huge, super-terminal where most of Irans crude is loaded.
<Return to Snake Island 2
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>>14155
>>14162
I dunno. Apparently the US has now taken to using a new drone in this war: the US LUCAS. Get this: it's a reverse engineered Iranian Shahed drone. No wonder Iran is having a grand old time shooting those things down. They're American knock-offs of Iran's own drones.

I guess Iran has better drones than the US does, if the US is busy imitating Iran for its own drone tech.
>>14161
>What happens when everyone runs out of interceptor missiles?
Does >>14159 look like they still can intercept anything ?
>Can USrael out-bomb or out-produce the Iranian drone stockpile?
No not really plus we must consider that Russia and China WILL provide refills.
>Will the rest of NATO have to forcibly divert their already depleted Ukraine-oriented Patriot/IRIS-T SLX/etc. stocks, or will Duptanyahoo be impeached by that point?
Already moving forces towards Cyprus

To be honest I think this will end with americans dropping nukes on Iran. There is hardly any other way for them to win this.
>>14162
>Given that most of their leadership got clapped on day 1, I wouldn't call that "really good defenses".
Its jews, not a believable source. They claimed the same thing last time.
>>14164
USA is pretty much three generations behind Russia in drone tech. Shaheeds themselves are obsolete.
>>14165
>USA is pretty much three generations behind Russia in drone tech. Shaheeds themselves are obsolete.
Pretty sure they're generations behind Iran's drone tech too, if this is what they're using. Iran would basically be the foremost expert in the entire world when it comes to ways to shoot the US LUCAS down.
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>>14165
>To be honest I think this will end with americans dropping nukes on Iran. There is hardly any other way for them to win this.
Unless he nukes the whole of Iran simultaneously or properly manages to obliterate Iranian strike capability (doubtful, given the distributed and autonomous nature of how Iran divides those strike groups, especially since Iranian weapons are stupidly long-range and therefore don't need to be clustered in one region), the moment he takes to nuking Iran, Iran will throw everything it can at Israel to raze it and take it down with Iran. It's not like the Samson Option means anything if Iran is already getting razed by nukes.
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You know, it was pretty pathetic to see some USA sandwar vets signing up for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and then getting their shit rocked, dying en masse, and sending videos asking for more people to come and die with them because they finally went up against a foe that wasn't sandniggers in a hut shooting them with bows and arrows.

Now that Iran's flexing its muscles, I wonder if the cocky American military is gonna think "it's just more sandniggers in huts with bows and arrows" and get their shit rocked. Seems likely, don't it?
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>Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, and Qatar are considering pulling out of contracts with the U.S. and canceling future investments in the US, to ease the economic pressure from the Iran war

Is Drumpstien winning yet?
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>>14163
Kharg Island is a flat small island with nowhere to hide. An embarking on the island is just suicidal
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>>14170
They're pissed at the US because they're all eating rockets and drones for hosting the US military and cozying up to the US with enormous financial compacts and yet the US is only really looking out for Israel. It means their friendship with the USA was a joke, and none of those countries actually like Israel anyway. Plus taking a more Iran-friendly approach is likely to soften Iran's stance towards them and they're about to run out of interceptors for defense.
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>>14163
>one ship, "Iron Maiden", headed to China passes unmolested
>>14172
Right now the biggest rupture in US and gulf states relations isn't just that they can get targeted for it. It's that they can get targeted for it and the US will do nothing to bail them out. This is a cold hard wake-up call that they were never really friends so much as they were useful idiots for the US and allied powers.
>>14161
>What happens when everyone runs out of interceptor missiles?
They will be forced to release the full, unredacted, Epstein files.
>>14164
>I guess Iran has better drones than the US does, if the US is busy imitating Iran for its own drone tech.
>>14165
>USA is pretty much three generations behind Russia in drone tech. Shaheeds themselves are obsolete.
>>14166
>Pretty sure they're generations behind Iran's drone tech too
The key difference is this is a race to the bottom, unlike the past where it was about tech advancements and secrets. I bet the biggest challenge here is "solving" the procurement rules bullshit that makes everything for the military cost x10-100 the normal price. Yeah, third world will have a lead on US in niggerrigging shit for cheap. 
>>14168
>Unless he nukes the whole of Iran simultaneously or properly manages to obliterate Iranian strike capability
Don't forget China (and India and Pakistan too, I guess) as they will certainly have ((( opinions ))) about such things happening in their back yard.
>>14171
Snake Island season 2, confirmed. Looking forward.
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>>14175
>The key difference is this is a race to the bottom, unlike the past where it was about tech advancements and secrets. I bet the biggest challenge here is "solving" the procurement rules bullshit that makes everything for the military cost x10-100 the normal price. Yeah, third world will have a lead on US in niggerrigging shit for cheap. 
Not exactly. It's not just about price. It doesn't matter if you have a $5K drone if everyone can see it coming and any idiot can it take out with small arms. How effective it is for the cost is still important.
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>>14176
>everyone can see it coming and any idiot can it take out with small arms
That's exactly the point of this class of drones. The only counter-measure they really have is some firmware update that makes it wiggle around a bit, maybe divebomb at a steeper angle/speed.
Right now they cost $35-50k, if they could be made for $5k and 10x as many that would be absolutely ideal. In other words, right now they're crashing an average-priced car into targets but ideally it should be a moped/bike instead.
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>>14175
>Don't forget China (and India and Pakistan too, I guess) as they will certainly have (((  opinions  ))) about such things happening in their back yard.
I mean the entire fucking world will have opinions about nuking a country. That's a guarantee. Including China, Pakistan, India, and Russia, sure.

>>14177
No, there's a lot more you can do than that. There are ways to stealth better when it's a tiny drone, there are ways to make a more resilient chassis that isn't that easy to shoot down, there are ways to make its maneuvers more unpredictable and difficult to get a good lock on, and so forth.
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>>14179
I'm sceptical that Iran would be able to target an individual apartment like that.
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Another video of that shootdown over Kuwait.
This one is interesting because it shows that the F-18 was very close, well within visual range of the F-15. Lends some credence to the idea that this "friendly fire" was not so accidental.
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Al Jazeera did research on the Iranian girls' school being blown up and concluded it was not accidental either.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/3/questions-over-minab-girls-school-strike-as-israel-us-deny-involvement
>>14178
>the entire fucking world will have opinions about nuking a country
Sure, I was just being facetious, no one will ignore it for sure. I mean that China, India, et al are guaranteed to be directly affected by the literal fallout. Russia/Europe might go unscathed, depending on which way the wind blows.
>stealth better
>get a good lock on
Hold on, that's moving the goal posts, the target demographic was any idiot with small arms many such cases. If you can troll the enemy into shooting guided missiles at these things that's an epic win already. But otherwise yeah it's a fair point about making the chassis/body accommodate more bullet holes, placing the critical components and such. Long term the secret sauce I think will be in training better AI models to pilot these things, plus the chips to do inference, US should have an edge here at least for now.
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>>14183
>Sure, I was just being facetious, no one will ignore it for sure. I mean that China, India, et al are guaranteed to be directly affected by the literal fallout. Russia/Europe might go unscathed, depending on which way the wind blows.
Yeah I don't know fuck-all about spread of nuclear fallout and wind patterns. But you're right, some countries will have extra-special reason to be pissed from bathing in radioactive wind. I'm not sure if it'll reach the places you say though.

>Hold on, that's moving the goal posts, the target demographic was any idiot with small arms many such cases. If you can troll the enemy into shooting guided missiles at these things that's an epic win already. But otherwise yeah it's a fair point about making the chassis/body accommodate more bullet holes, placing the critical components and such. Long term the secret sauce I think will be in training better AI models to pilot these things, plus the chips to do inference, US should have an edge here at least for now.
Stealthing is to avoid getting spotted or radar detected at a distance. Get a lock on is probably poor phrasing on my part. I meant being able to line up a sure shot. But yeah, basic point is: you can improve these things a lot so it isn't as easy to deal with them when they try to do damage, and the quality of a drone still matters. Cost-effectiveness is the name of the game more than cheapness.
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>>14184
>you can improve these things a lot so it isn't as easy to deal with them when they try to do damage
Of course there will be improvements over time, but fundamentally this is a low-cost and disposable item. They're always going to get shot down though, that's part of the swarm strategy, I don't know why everyone is piling on as if these are cruise missiles or ballistic missiles being intercepted.
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>>14186
Simply getting shot down isn't part of the swarm strategy. Getting shot down by something more expensive and limited than the drone is part of the swarm strategy. That's the sticking point.
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>>14187
Basically, the more expensive and difficult you make it to take down the drone relative to its cost, the better the drone is. This is a very important part of drone technology.
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>>14187
>Simply getting shot down isn't part of the swarm strategy.
It kind of is. Part of a swarm is sacrificial, acting as decoys and presumably not making it to the target. The other key part is it's a saturation attack - the swarm either depletes the interceptors/ammo (attrition) or overwhelms the rate at which they can be dispatched.
The theory behind it is nothing new, it's been applied and studied with cruise missiles and ICBM warheads for decades, it just hasn't been practical/relevant at tactical scale until very recently due to tech & cost limitations. 
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>>14170
Notice this is not a new thing.
Remember that Sauds pulled out from petrodolar and all but told USA to fuck off in previous Iranian fun times. They do not allow USA to use their bases to strike Iran even right now, and it is speculated that that one hit on their territory was Israeli sabotage to get them into war.
It does sound retarded but Sauds are currently the peace option in the region.
>>14164
It makes sense given only Russia of the big "major" countries has really been involved in the new type of warfare. Otherwise the US/China keep talking about drone swarms but in practice field large unwieldy drones the size of planes and leave smaller drones for recon. The US best bw taking notes and start using drones like they love using Tomohawk missiles or they will be left behind.
>>14188
If you can make the drones for 100th of the cost then no, just fire the fucking things off so the patriot batteries run dry killing the decoys while the more expensive ballistic shit gets through.
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>>14152
That's an average tuesday in Israel.
>>14195
>If you can make the drones for 100th of the cost then no, just fire the fucking things off so the patriot batteries run dry killing the decoys while the more expensive ballistic shit gets through.
Listen, if your drone is so shitty it's getting intercepted by crap that is cheaper than your drone and wouldn't intercept the more important shit you're trying to get through by using a drone swarm to deplete defenses (like small arms fire), it's still got problems as a drone. You want drones that force enemies to use the expensive shit they'd rather use on bigger threats. That doesn't happen magically. It happens because your drones are designed in a way that lesser measures are largely useless.
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It was the fuck around of times. It was the find out of times.
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Iranian farmer shot down a drone. This oddly feels the beginning of Ukrainian war
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Arifjan US base in Kuwait destroying atleast 6 communication radomes
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>Ben is struggling for words to express his sense of disbelief and bewilderment holding onto remote fragments of hope that this is all some kind of elaborate prank
>Abe is deeply disappointed and shudders to imagine what you'd say if only you knew how bad things really are.
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>sanctioned or Chinese-flagged ships transporting LNG/Oil to bad goy countries are the only ones to pass through the Strait of Hormuz safely while everyone else gets droned
Trump working hard at making Iran great again.
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>>14203
What was the context of that? It practically looks like Trump was just told they lost the war.
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>>14207
Looks like a prayer session to me. With the woman in red leading it.
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>>14155
>Oman, which was mediating the talks, says Iran was willing to concede a lot in the interest of a deal
I remember the mediator posting a long-winded explanation on what happened, it seems the negotiations got sabotaged by the US via disinterest.
Should i search for it again? i don't doubt it got taken down because it was quite in-depth and he directly blamed the US.

>>14181
>F18s were secretly iranian spies who are shooting down american and kuwait F15s in mixed sorties
Movie-tier
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>>14209
Please do. It'll be good to see what was going on at the negotiations that got torpedoed by Trump.
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>President Donald Trump wants to quadruple production of weaponry
https://archive.is/ncHE8
Casually admitting stockpiles are running low
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Basra, Iraq
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>>14210
lol, i am ashamed as it was a fictionalized narrative of the event for easy mainstream reader digestion, seems it wasn't "real" but if we take into account it is a timeline of what happened "sourced" from real accounts ("CBS transcripts. CENTCOM press releases. NetBlocks data. Reuters.") with the mediator of Oman Ministry of Foreign Relations' statements as protagonist then it is somewhat interesting.
Still pisses me off really bad how they write that kind of shit in the eve of the war itself, so take it with a big grain of salt.
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>>14220
Take me out to pasture in 35-40 years. Fucking pathetic.
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>>14222
What a stupid question, how dare you question the narrative
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>>14208
That woman in the red suit is the white house’s Senior faith advisor
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Don't worry we'll be speaking in tongues after this. Who would've thought bring a Pentecostal pastor into the  white house would lead to this?
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>>14221
>$680 per pen
What are these pens made of? Those cashews better be damn good too.

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Is Iran behind this one? I'm hearing shit about Iraqis attacking US forces and this base was supposedly one of the targets. Would be big if true.
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>>14229

Apologies, meant for >>14226
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Iran has struck the Dubai Airport again. arrivals are being paused, looks like Americans are stuck for longer now
>>14230
Not sure but i would think the resistance groups would use a  smaller payload than Iran
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>>14200
>UKMTO is investigating
They are obligated to say this, but besides interviewing the crew in a safe area or watching twitter, what the fuck are they going to do about it? The tottering UK navy is sending a single missile destroyer to Cyprus next week, aka hopefully by the time everything is over, near an island that had at best a drone or two lobbed at it. What a joke.
>>14223
Cut out the guy at the start and its a great reaction webm.
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>>14234
It reminded me of this.
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>>14211
>only 10 days of fresh food
best hope nothing strays off course and there goes the fresh water
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>>14225
>Who would've thought bring a Pentecostal pastor into the  white house would lead to this?
Jews hide under many masks, you know Jesus and his Father are probably judges only because they do not intervene directly over us with entities like the heebs doing flagrant crimes against humanity every day in many corners, injustices and other shit also happening naturally to just people. 
We really are in hell and our actions are the punishment, i stopped thinking amount the morality when it comes to the greater good, the whole ultimate political spectrum of ethics vs. aesthetics leans heavily towards the latter when there's no punishment for wrong doers.
>Woman pastor
Oh, figures

.>>14235
>Star Trek
I found an interesting UFO book related to my reading that implies shit would really hit the fan with WWIII and a plandemic in the 2020's, your usual stuff, but it sourced stuff from spring of 2019 and did relate shit closely related to what is happening and happened.
Haven't sourced it yet but it does "spoil" that things would return to normality until 2047. I am getting spooked.
It really feels like start of the ukraine but this time I find myself opposed to the evil empire not cheering for it.
I dont know maybe I am retarded or maybe I am caught in propaganda but at least russian actions, even though the reasons for starting war were nebolous, made sense. I have genuinely no fucking idea what the fuck are jews doing here or why they are so sure of success, it seems not correlated with reality. Is data I am basing on wrong ? Surely things cannot be that retarded ?
I have seen claims that jews have total air control over Iran and even fly fat fuck B-52 in there but I dont see any tangible proofof this actually happening, not even craters from bombs.
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>Azeris might attack Iran
>Azerbaijan is sandwiched between Iran & Russia
>to their west is Armenia, a country they fought several times in recent years
>and Turkey is also in the area
Of course, Russians are too tied up in Ukraine to do anything significant, but this could still set the Caucasus on fire. 
>>14238
>at least russian actions, even though the reasons for starting war were nebolous, made sense
Yes, from their perspective if was like if Canada decided to elect a bona fide member of the CCP and was on track of becoming a colony of China. Of course the US would come up with some bullshit excuse to invade in that situation.
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>>14240
>Caucasus
I'm more worried about some unforeseen incident between Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and India.
Has West Taiwan made any unusual moves?
>>14240
There are more Azeris in Iran than in the whole of Azerbaijan, especially along the border with Azerbaijan, and I don't think Iranian citizen Azeris are really keen on being invaded by Azerbaijan. There would be so many problems with this.
>>14197
Which the drones do fine atm, they don't need to be more sophisticated because there is not cost effective method of interception.
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Yesterday, in the temporary leadership council, we made the decision that from now on, Iran will no longer attack neighbouring countries unless attacks are carried out from there'
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9 drones reportedly fell on the shores of Iran
>>14246
Attempt to distance USA from its allies in the gulf.
Also do note UAE threatened to seize Iranian assets if they dont stop attacking them. 
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/irans-financial-hub-uae-may-freeze-billions-assets-over-retaliatory-strikes
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>>14246
I was expecting this but not this quick, I was expecting to happen in April or May.
Also related.
>🚨 SOMETHING BIG JUST HAPPENED:
>BlackRock just blocked investors from pulling their own money out.
>The world’s largest asset manager is telling people: no, you can’t have your cash back.
>This has never happened before.
>BlackRock’s $26 billion private credit fund got hit with $1.2 billion in withdrawal requests this quarter.
>Investors wanted 9.3% of their money back.
>BlackRock said no. Capped it at 5%. Paid out $620 million and locked the rest.
>That means almost HALF the people who wanted out couldn’t get out.
>And it’s not just BlackRock.
>Blackstone’s similar fund saw a RECORD 7.9% in redemption requests.
>They had to raise their withdrawal cap and inject $400 million of their own money just to cover the demand.
>Blue Owl straight up stopped honoring redemptions. Replaced them with IOUs.00000 BLK dropped 5%. KKR, Carlyle, Apollo, Ares, Blue Owl, and TPG all fell 5-6% with it.
>The entire private credit sector sold off in a single day.
>These funds lend money in illiquid loans.
>Loans that can’t be sold quickly.
>So when too many investors want out at the same time, the fund doesn’t have the cash to pay everyone.
>BlackRock also just wrote a separate $25 million loan down to ZERO.
>It was valued at full price three months ago. Gone overnight.
>JPMorgan’s Bill Eigen said it best: “Bad news often happens all at once. The opacity and the leverage in the sector is concerning.”
>This is a $1.8 TRILLION industry.
– Rising oil.
– War in the Middle East.
– AI disrupting the software companies that borrowed heavily from these funds.
– Rate cuts off the table.
>When the biggest funds in the world start telling investors you can’t have your money back…
>That’s a MAJOR warning.
<https://x.com/NoLimitGains/status/2029953260052717603
>>14250
>So when too many investors want out at the same time, the fund doesn’t have the cash to pay everyone.
Everyone calls the people screaming "fiat is a ponzi scheme" schizophrenic until something like this happens. Then 3 days later everyone forgets again.
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>>14250
India is going to get hit the hardest, the Middle East region is highly reliant on indian exports. 90-95% of meat and dairy products exports go to the Middle East. I think 40% rice exports go to the gulf countries too.
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>>14250
Even under normal circumstances, everything points to a recession that the government thinks it can just ignore until it passes. The AI tulip craze is likely the only reason the facade didn't immediately crumble. But now with the war, the shitty job reports inflation still beating, and AI companies being outed for deals they cannot fulfill, it is all becoming impossible to ignore.
>>14252
Thats actually a good thing you see, as it allows AI companies like Nvidia to sell more product and get closer to the impossible targets it has set for itself. Amazon too can just say damage is minimal even if the whole tuing is destroyed so it can claim it has more AI capability then it has.
>>14256
UK couldn't atand not being involved in another middle east fuckup?
>>14248
The UAE's main problem is that they have already been freezing/seizing Iranian assets. That's why they were getting hit so hard in the first place. This threat is beyond useless. Iran is pounding them until they fold so if they insist on not folding there is a decent chance Iran will actually start wrecking parts of the UAE. I guess the UAE feels more confident in its support?

>>14255
Complicated but I imagine they would work something out. I don't think sieging/starving a population is the goal here. If Iran gets its hands dirty with that, they will be seriously hated by everyone.
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>>14259
Come to think of it, I guess the real issue of the UAE is that they feel they've already cast in their lot with the western powers and can therefore only double down on their position.
>>14153
This orange nigger just made cotton eyed joes term look more tame.
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>>14261
And it keeps getting worse.
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>>14262
Has Dup become MIGA Bidup or did he outsource his Xittersocial to a quantobomized GPT model with a custom system prompt written by himself.
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>>14263
I like to think they are dictated from the oval office.
>>14263
>a quantobomized GPT model with a custom system prompt
Unironically sounds like an upgrade at this point.
>>14262
Trump is a sore loser. He is throwing a tantrum on the way out by targeting civilian infrastructure and the like. Essentially the devil whispering in his ear that is Israel is coming up with ways to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity and Trump is willing to do more of it. This tweet does clearly signal that Trump has no confidence in his ability to wipe out Iran after what happened. And Trump's description of Iran never having lost to surrounding middle eastern countries in thousands of years is clearly historically inaccurate, but does indicate that he is trying to buy himself some face for why he will ultimately have to withdraw from this war. He is low-key hyping up Iran so that his loss won't look as pathetic.

If Trump had emerged victorious here he would be boasting about how the destroyed US bases are all being rebuilt and whatnot or how Iran would pay for them.
It's worth noting that by no longer targeting most Gulf states, Iran is now free to send all those drones and rockets at other fronts.
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>>14268
Will the Gulf states comply though?
Sure not bombing Iran in exchange for food supplies getting through would seem reasonable but Trump has shown a tendency for helicopter-based diplomatic operations in countries with extensively penetrated intelligence networks as of late.
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>>14269
Comply with what, exactly? Comply with not attacking Iran? If they wanted war they could've chosen it all along. They didn't.
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>>14270
I think that anon wants to say that dup might just kidnap the leaders of Gulf states who won't join the war. Which sounds extremely retarded, but at this point that is exactly what makes it a realistic possibility.
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>>14269
I guess you think that Iran was pleading mercy from gulf states? The reality is more complicated. Attacking Iran is honestly an insanely bad idea for them. They're almost all out of interceptors at this point and Iran can rape their oil fields, their financial centers, their military bases, and centers of government. Or in very short order Iran can just blow up their desalination plants and power plants and plunge their countries into death and darkness extremely fast. Iran is acting with restraint here, and while the gulf states can also do their own breed of nastiness back at Iran, that's the kind of war where you lose much more than you gain. You can't just declare wars out of anger. You have to weigh the costs, risks, dangers, and benefits as well.

I'm sure these countries put their own pressures on Iran and that there were backroom deals but ultimately I think the biggest reason it ended this way is because Iran is trying to avoid making serious enemies out of its neighbors so it is deliberately being restrained about things. Right now while Iran has certainly pissed off its neighbors, it hasn't really done the kind of shit that sows bitter vengeance and would rather not go there because it is trying to maintain the foundation for a healthy future. And Iran's neighbors also prefer stability because their own wealth and prosperity is built on that and if you back Iran too deep into a corner it might really start swinging at them in horrifying ways that ignore all laws on war crimes. Right now Iran was overwhelmingly targeting US bases and infrastructure in their countries, so the discontent is still largely manageable.

Also, while the gulf states may be angry at Iran, it is likely that they hate Israel more than they dislike Iran at the moment, so joining the war on the side of Israel might be something they are loathe to do for other reasons as well.

>>14271
Oh, no dice. He's already getting fucked by Iran in the middle east. If he tries abducting leaders in the middle east he will have a whole alliance arrayed against him because you really can't have Trump picking off neighbors who won't play ball with him like that and clearly beating the US is possible now. The US presence is weakened enough and gulf states are angry enough at the US (for failing to help them out when they are getting pounded for hosting American bases and infrastructure - so much for that close friendship Trump was going on about before the war - and instead just lending virtually all its aid to Israel) that they could collectively go against the US if given cause.

Also US finance can be damaged in all sorts of extremely painful ways by pissing off the gulf. If they decide they no longer accept payment in dollars, the dollar is about to have a nightmare year. If they fuck with their investments in America, American financial markets are also about to suffer horribly and right now the US is in an enormous AI bubble, so it can get ugly.
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>>14246
So how much did they get in the end (of US military infastructure), or alternatively, what remains? In addition to viedos, I've seen alleged sattelite images which implies they haven't blurred, which given events in ukraine I find surprising. But given that seems to be the case it should be easy to determine the officially posted ones.
>>14268
>at other fronts
What are the benefits? If Iran continues to target oil infrastructure then it can continue to inflict a lasting worldwide pain that no country can escape from. Pushing oil past $100 is already having America let off Russia and pushing it towards $150/barrel would cement Trump as the next Carter and crash economies. Iran easing in this manner will not help it. If Israel and the US are moving towards civilian targets then they are moving towards just outwardly leveling the country like they did Gaza.
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>>14272
>You can't just declare wars out of anger. You have to weigh the costs, risks, dangers, and benefits as well.
Remind me again why this whole shindig got underway in the first place?
>If they fuck with their investments in America, American financial markets are also about to suffer horribly and right now the US is in an enormous AI bubble, so it can get ugly.
I see you too have come across that Chinese professor's video.
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Currently:
>Iran getting shat on but returning fire because what else is left to do
>Gulf states getting their US assets kicked by drones&missiles alongside oil infrastructure but no Gaza-level indiscriminate destruction yet
>Israel getting shat on
>Amerigga and the Jews destroying Iran 6 million times over every day but it's not enough
>everyone is out of interceptor missiles have they resorted to gunning down drones like it's 1944 over the channel yet? save for the USN and probably Iran, but the latter is getting bombed too hard to focus on missile defense much
>Strait of Hormuz closed to any ship not headed for Russia, China or anyone allied to USrael/hostile to Iran, the sinkings will continue until morale improves
>Oil spiking towards $100 and beyond while the AI bubble is teetering on the edge and private credit is already cracking
>Zelen Tsu offering to sell NATO donations back to the US like a proper Jew ought to, surely Iran will cede Crimea upon its inevitable defeat
>Dup exhausting his political capital faster than the Gulf states+Israel are exhausting their missile supplies, but surely a ground invasion by uhhhhhhhhhh Kurdish partner forces will fix it yes if Iran doesn't surrender like they should, what do you mean we keep killing their diplomats and leaders who could order a surrender bomb them harder MIGA!!!!11
>F-15 perfect K/D broken, 6 aircraft lost with the first 3 confirmed losses being the result of >friendly fire by the Ghost of Kuwait while the other 2 planes were shot down by Iranian air defense that should've been destroyed 50x times but somehow still existed
>2 USN supply ships sunk or damaged, one unconfirmed destroyer/frigate possibly damaged
>Iranian navy pretty much ded in port, one ship sunk by a USN sub off the coast of Sri Lanka much to the dismay of the local powers

How does it end?
I can see:
>Worldwide oil+general economic crisis
>Gulf States telling the US to fuck off in exchange for limited resumption of shipping in the Persian Gulf
<but with Iran and the reluctantly desperate Gulf States sanctioning (lol) US Allies so only China, Russia, North Korea etc. get muh oil
<Dup impeachment, collapse of the Petrodollar, end of US hegemony, possibly end of NATO, EU breaking off/up
<Israel genociding Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians on the border to cope
<West Taiwan staring at East Taiwan with masterful long-term strategic planning

>Worldwide oil+general economic crisis
>Dup and Mossad press the Gulf States into continuing the war regardless of the short and long-term damage
<Iran goes all out and hits oil fields, civilian+military airports, port infrastructure with no survivors
<Gulf states face total economic ruin and previously wealthy civilians raiding abandoned billionaire hotels for food and water
<Dup impeachment with catastrophic political and economic fallout, near certain collapse/breakup of NATO and the EU
<Israel genociding as a coping measure, but it may be more difficult than expected
<The deranged western eagle has finally breathed its last, it now falls to the wise eastern dragon to aid the survivors of its rampage and restore regional stability for the good of all mankind
<more nuclear powerplants and EV faggotry
<...or Dup throws a nuke at Iran

>Worldwide oil+general economic crisis
>Dup and Mossad press the Gulf States into continuing the war regardless of the short and long-term damage
>Dup impeached before things escalate too far >implying
<US still de facto loser but at least the heroic transgender democrat migrant rebels BTFO'd the evil Drumpfstein so the WEFbros over at the EU are less likely to shutter NATO right away
<more munitions remaining for the inevitable Taiwan event, assuming East Taiwan still wants to fight West Taiwan after witnessing the US' stunning diplomatic and military continence

>Worldwide oil+general economic crisis
>Iran sinks a US CVN
>Dup reputation torpedoed, he either
<gets impeached with what's left of the admin immediately ceasing hostilities to prevent further incidents
<various conflicts previously suppressed by perceived US military superiority flare up one after the other
<with the worst case being the Samson option if NATO can't clamp down diplomatically or militarily
<or Dup just nukes Iran out of spite greatly accelerating that process

Though I personally hope it`s
>Iran sinks a CVN or doesn't surrender long enough for the US to get desperate.yourturn
>Dup orders a nuking with a B-2
>Iran shoots the B-2 down en route, recovers the nuke
>proclaims itself a nuclear power, just like Khamenei always intended
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>>14280
>Remind me again why this whole shindig got underway in the first place?
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>>14281
Gulf states can't do shit except push for peace. Even that is no better then what the usual UN does. It is a double edged sword. Gulf States like Oman, Qatar, and Kuwait know full well they rely on the US presence to maintain peace and existence. Kuwait especially only continues to exist because of foreign interference. Realistically they don't dare risk angering the US when there is no immediate benefit from attacking it, yet. China for its part only offers economic power and has refused to be the next military police state.
The gulf state's options are limited. Joining Iran offers only immediate attack, and given their weapons are based on US platforms it would be highly unlikely they would be useable at all. Economically attacking is no better. Sure it can cripple the US, but it does not explain how they would counter Israel. History also shows that times of extreme economic distress calls for bigger wars to distract the population.
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>>14250
Eh. Those funds are explicitly "illiquid". That's something written into the contract. And they were hyping them up even when last year people were openly saying there were cockroaches yet to be found in the private credit market. 
Also real weird that when all the oil companies told Trump to fuck of on reinvesting in Venezuela, that the kikes kick off a war that everyone should have known was going to disrupt oil aroynd the middle east.
>>14283
Also it should be immediately apparent that the Saudis are too vested with the US and money. Jordan has no spine whatsoever given its proximity to Isreal. Egypt receives money from the US to stay pacified. The only nearby country that may have its own beef with Israel and the will to do anything is Turkey and they have their own desires.
>>14279
Wears a baseball cap to "honor" the dead he sacrificed to the kikes. This nigger has no shame.
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Trump’s Iran options include special operations raid on nuclear sites
>As the Trump administration weighs whether to send ground troops into Iran, one option at the president’s disposal — developed by both US Central Command and the US’ Israeli allies — would send Special Operations units into the country to seize and destroy key nuclear sites.

>The option is one among many that is likely to be considered once the focus shifts to actually destroying Iran’s nuclear capabilities, according to military experts and those familiar with long-developed options on the table.

>The US Army’s special missions unit known as Delta Force has long readied a “counter-WMD mission, where their job is to go in and get loose — we call it loose nukes operations — where it could be any fissile material or centrifuges or anything else associated with that, to actually go in and get it and remove it,” said Jonathan Hackett, who served as a US Marine Corps interrogator and a special operations capabilities specialist. “They haven’t had to do that very often in the past, if ever, but they practice that. They’re proficient at that. That is one option that exists on the table that’s probably not widely noted in the press, but does exist,” he said.

>Last June, Trump declared Iran’s nuclear facilities to be obliterated, but the facilities — and Iran’s nuclear capabilities — are now the subject of renewed focus. One of Trump’s stated goals in this war is to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

>That official told Semafor that during former President Barack Obama’s time in office, the then-Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak proposed to the White House plans that would include Israeli (not US) commandos on the ground in places like Isfahan, Fordow, and Qom.

>The Obama administration, according to the official, thought the plan was “crazy.”

>Under more recent administrations, though, the former official said CENTCOM developed plans for US raids on Isfahan and other sites. Another person familiar with the situation told Semafor that there are “contingency plans to temporarily occupy certain locations,” though there are also many unanswered questions.

“How long would it take? How permissive is the environment? What are the material hazards and logistical requirements? To how many of these places must we go in order to effectively remove or destroy highly enriched uranium and plutonium?” the person familiar with the situation added, emphasizing some of those key questions.
https://www.semafor.com/article/03/07/2026/trumps-iran-options-include-special-operations-raid-on-nuclear-sites
I can't get it to archive
>>14295
https://archive.is/20260307225131/https://www.semafor.com/article/03/07/2026/trumps-iran-options-include-special-operations-raid-on-nuclear-sites
>>14262
Man, i know it's retarded but if i was a missile jockey commander in some delegate area i would order a volley at the Burj Khalifa just out of spite of that message, even if it costs me my role.
How can you be son boneheaded, Netanyahoo really has the guy on tape doing the most inane acts.
>>14295
Considering the recent advancements in technology, I wonder how special needs forces would deal with an underground facility that is filled with suicide drones & remote controlled machine guns.
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Rip in pieces Gulf economy, truly the WEF's efforts to bring forth equal regional standards of living knows neither bounds nor borders for what has borders given us.

>>14300
I didn't expect the Clone Wars to become real so soon.
>>14281
My guess is that Trump is going to launch a (tactical?) nuke at Iran regardless because

1) Trump has the attention span of a 4 year old. He's already talking about attacking Cuba AND ALSO starting a drug war in all of central and south America.

2) He's very frustrated and angry that Iran just didn't fold immediately on the decapitation strike. He seems to have a child's understanding of how war works; You don't just 3 cycle the enemy like it's Ganon and then all the forces evaporate. Arabs are possible the least reasonable group of people on the entire planet and unless you go in and actively oppress them, drive them out, or genocide them they'll play rope-a-dope for decades until you run out of steam.

3) While as Trump has never really listened to his better angles, in his second term he seems to be listening to his absolutely worst devils. The neocons and the neocon side of the MIC have been itching for years to allow tactical scale nuclear weapons to be used in war, claiming that they won't be an escalation risk.

4) The sun total of the above is that Trump doesn't seem to understand the long term consequences of his actions.
>>14305
First of all, it's not so much caricatures of Trump to blame here, but rather that Trump is compromised by vested interests. I believe there was a deal made behind closed doors to the effect that Trump would be allowed to retake office, but on the condition that he be beholden to the Zionists. So really, this is Israel's war, with the US as its golem, and they're making their gambit for regional dominance now because they realize time is running out.

Also,
>You don't just 3 cycle the enemy like it's Ganon and then all the forces evaporate.
This ties into a larger delusion in the Western world, which I call the Fantasy Fallacy, and others have called Stormtrooper Syndrome or Jedi Brain. It's basically the inability to distinguish between fiction and reality, so that ppl think real life is Harry Potter, Star Wars, or a cartoon or video game. This explains why so many fags are so easily duped by propaganda about Russians being a pathetic & evil army of orcs -- because they think Russia is the Evil Empire, and it's what they've come to expect from fictional works. Likewise, in fantasy, once the Dark Lord goes down, his Evil Empire disintegrates; thus, the fags believe that assassinating Putin or the Ayatollah would collapse those countries, because that's what happens in the stories. Instead, leaders can be replaced, and command structures can be decentralized, but that's reality, and too many ppl in the Western world are dangerously out of touch.
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>>14306
Ironically, the US would likely be more susceptible to the types of attacks it is doing on Iran. The war of 1812 was the last time the US capitol was sacked. The US itself being safe from the horrors of WW1, WW2, and the Cold War. Too much of the population is not prepared to lose their Starbucks and be drinking rain water to survive.
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>>14300
I found funny how those recent US manuals about tunnel and underground base warfare that some utopic and very optimistic people thought were about the US trying to "rescue the kids from underground slave communities" against whatever the Qfags were trying to push seem to be actually about clearing the Iranian and Nork subterranean facilities.
More and more i think ZOG was trying to use far out ideas to hide and distract the leaked or unorthodox info that appeared on the internet at times. And i think most of us thought about that too here but the extension and gall about it surprises me. This retroactively adds flavor to what random UFOfags pushed as experts said in conventions decades ago when some papers or info appeared that seemed like fantasy tech, some said cool vs. evil aliens while others said advanced military tech, while others funnily enough said these were irrelevant in the long-run and what mattered was the social and interdimensional/soul aspects.
>>14280
>I see you too have come across that Chinese professor's video.
Actually this was my own assessment. I did hear something about a Chinese professor making predictions though.

>>14305
>My guess is that Trump is going to launch a (tactical?) nuke at Iran regardless because
I think he wants to but he's getting held back because there's nothing a tactical nuke can militarily achieve that a big conventional bomb wouldn't and it would cause a giant international shitshow.

>1) Trump has the attention span of a 4 year old. He's already talking about attacking Cuba AND ALSO starting a drug war in all of central and south America.
He does have a shitty attention span, yes, but most of this is also just Trump having optimistic ambitions and naive overconfidence in American capability.

>2) He's very frustrated and angry that Iran just didn't fold immediately on the decapitation strike. He seems to have a child's understanding of how war works; You don't just 3 cycle the enemy like it's Ganon and then all the forces evaporate.
Big time. Yes.

>Arabs are possible the least reasonable group of people on the entire planet and unless you go in and actively oppress them, drive them out, or genocide them they'll play rope-a-dope for decades until you run out of steam.
Iranians aren't Arabs. They're Persians. The ethnic and cultural difference is real. It's also a very big part of the reason why the theocracy has such a precarious hold on Iran, because Persian culture and Islamic culture conflict and Persian culture predates Islamic culture and has an entire pre-Islamic history to look upon proudly which ruins many Islamists' preferred narrative of "Islam is the light of civilization that uplifted mankind from darkness." Right now everyone is rallying around the flag but in the future the weakened theocracy will be put to the test in interesting ways.

But the big reason why US's aggressive shit cannot work is simply that everyone knows the end-goal of this war is to balkanize Iran and turn it into a destabilized, ruined shithole. Even if the US were somehow trustworthy (it absolutely isn't, given recent actions of blowing up schools, hospitals, and trying to set Tehran on fire with the oil fires), Israel alone would deserve maximum distrust that this situation of yielding to their attackers will end well. Lebanon is a stark example of how Israel likes to "solve" hostile countries and they are trying to follow the same playbook against Iran and very, very obviously no peace treaty or ceasefire can be expected to be honored by Israel (just look at Lebanon - Israeli ceasefire violations number in the tens of thousands). As a consequence, Iranian will to resist is maximal, since if you resist you will at worst die on your feet, but if you yield you will definitely die on your knees or live a life not worth living. Israel went out of its way to fuck over every speck of stability and prosperity in Lebanon, and they would do the same in Iran if they could.

The bombing of civilian sites is also ass-backwards from a perspective of destabilizing Iran because while you can do infrastructure damage this way, all this is proving that the Americans and Israelis consider the Iranian people their enemy as much as they regard the Iranian state, so the Iranian people, even the ones who were delusionally dreaming of American liberation, now all know that they cannot escape this conflict by getting rid of their government. Their present predicament cannot be bettered by revolution (especially since the government is actually waging this war quite competently), so the Iranian people now find themselves on the same team as their government so support for the Iranian government (which the people hate) is now sky-high for the moment, with people rallying around the flag trying to help stabilize the situation.

>3) While as Trump has never really listened to his better angels, in his second term he seems to be listening to his absolutely worst devils. The neocons and the neocon side of the MIC have been itching for years to allow tactical scale nuclear weapons to be used in war, claiming that they won't be an escalation risk.
While true, don't underestimate the tendency of Trump to blame his advisors for shit going wrong, and this is turning into a fucking catastrophe. I think right now he is also getting fatigued from this shit and while part of him does want to nuke them part of him also recognizes that that would just add to his problems while remaining unlikely to solve them. It would just entangle him deeper in this mess that he already wants to get out of without looking too bad. Probably escalated bombardment is part of the "compromise" option Trump is carrying out to see if breaking the Iranian will is a possibility, but the biggest reason Trump is doing this shit is so that he can exit a wrecked Iran so as to not look like too much of a loser, and if he's lucky maybe he can wreck Iran enough for Israel to do the rest. Like I said, he's mostly throwing a tantrum on the way out, while hoping that the tantrum achieves something. I think he's aiming for a consolation prize of "we ruined Iran" since he can't "win" by doing widespread damage. Just a plain old "bomb 'em into the stone age" plan. On the other hand, Russia and China will likely back up Iran in various (likely indirect) forms because Iran is now weakening the entire sphere of influence that is also seeking conflict with them, so it is in their interests to not make it easy to just wreck Iran.

He'd love to just dial down operations into long-term bombardment but the fact is that Europe is extremely worried about the consequences of a long-term war (Strait of Hormuz closed for months on end is a nightmare scenario for European energy needs) and the gulf states pulling out of American trade is also an issue.

Remains to be seen what will happen. Israel may panic and drop nukes. Trump may get fed up and try to raise the amount of force to wreck everything but right now the IRGC has made it clear that they will wreck the entire middle east's oil in retaliation and leave the US and Europe totally fucked economically if they do not return to measured strikes. Hell of a line: (actual IRGC words) “If you can tolerate oil at more than $200 per barrel, continue this game.” And the US already walked back its involvement and said (paraphrasing) "sorry, that was Israel, not us - we aren't targeting energy infrastructure" although that still leaves the door open to keeping up the bullshit through Israel.

But it does indicate that the US has limited appetite for making the situation get too nasty. If they don't like what the future looks like of blowing up Iranian oil infrastructure, they will not be eager for what the future of nuking Iran holds either.

>4) The sum total of the above is that Trump doesn't seem to understand the long term consequences of his actions.
Perhaps not, but he does understand everyone complaining and getting increasingly mad at him and not-so-low-key threatening consequences for not cutting this shit out. The gulf states don't need to say "we no longer accept payment in dollars" to threaten the American petrodollar if they cannot fucking sell because the Strait is basically closed so I'm pretty sure Trump's economic advisors (including many rich businessmen Trump was alternatingly sucking up to and trying to win influence and respect from) are also painting a grim picture of long-term war.

What is most interesting is that the US Pentagon has on a number of occasions countered the Trump administration's narrative ("No, there was no imminent threat forcing war with Iran" / "Yes, US blew up that girls' school in Minab") afaict, which indicates that the Pentagon is not aligned with the administration. Trump is likely facing interesting pressures and sharp criticisms from within the military-industrial complex as well.

>>14307
You can't drink rainwater when the sky stinks to high heaven from explosive ordnance and burning materials though. You need serious water filters before you try drinking that rain.
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>>14295
I thought Irans nuclear research was obliterated at the beggining of this and previously six months earlier.
>>14307
>kill american president
>instantly a half a year long election hype cycle begins
>>14311
>petrodollar
Its dead bro. Sauds have not renewed the deal where they trade oil only for $. Like, that is at the very heart of why anything america related is going to shit, the infinite money cheat stopped suddenly working and is about to bit them in the ass. Basically, its a complicated subject.
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<Boomer dad today moped about how Dumpf's war is losing him thousands of dollars in his retirement account.
>Mfw not voting, especially in the last election, continues being one of the best choices for me to make.
>Mfw not trusting my future to ((( retirement ))) continues being one of the best choices for me to make.
I didn't do anything past a silent headshake of disapproval though. It's not worth it. He's in his 70's and is proudly ignorant of anything past his stomach until the day he dies.

>>14224
>Senior faith advisor
Today I bless God for the face to face lesson in why women ought not to have any leadership power in any church.
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>>14305
>Trump doesn't seem to understand the long term consequences of his actions.
and/or he simply doesn't care, he's almost 80 with less-than-optimal health.
>>14311
>nothing a tactical nuke can militarily achieve that a big conventional bomb wouldn't 
It would be a surefire way to cement himself into history books if we still have those and people can read for breaking the forbidden seal.
>Iranians aren't Arabs. They're Persians.
That's a distinction without a difference in the context of >>14305. On a serious note, it never quite made sense to me given the underlying Persian identity being there all along how/why did it suddenly turn into the Islamic Republic theocracy? Did the Islamists manage to pull a fast one on everyone or an "anything but the monarchy" pendulum action.
>everyone knows the end-goal of this war
Here I beg to differ, assuming there is a formulated end-goal at all nope few would know it. Together with the Greenland action none of this is coherent. Is it simply just one protracted dementia episode?
>don't underestimate the tendency of Trump to blame his advisors for shit going wrong
This is a given, assuming he survives the midterms.
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>>14315
>he's almost 80 with less-than-optimal health.
yeah, he doesn't give a fuck, he raped and eat all the children he wanted.
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>>14316
Brown mizrahi ESL. I pray that the arabapes ravage your women.
>>14315
>That's a distinction without a difference in the context of >>14305.
Eh, sure. Either way it's stubborn resistance. That much is true.

>On a serious note, it never quite made sense to me given the underlying Persian identity being there all along how/why did it suddenly turn into the Islamic Republic theocracy? Did the Islamists manage to pull a fast one on everyone or an "anything but the monarchy" pendulum action.
Basically yes, and also the CIA helped them, and the previous Shah was a retard. The last shah before the Islamic revolution had a religious experience or something and swore that the prophesied 12th Imam of Shia Islam like gave him a helping hand at one point. Everyone thought he was retarded for believing that, including his dad, but it didn't stop him from believing it and building tons of mosques and expanding the clergy in Iran. Yes, the shah built the religious infrastructure that replaced him. The revolution happened because he was an incompetent dictator and millions were starving while political dissidents were being hunted down by secret police and the royal family was spending money on vanity projects.*

When the revolution happened, the transfer of power was going to go one of two ways: either the Islamists would come to power or the socialists/communists would come to power. The socialist/communist factions were less coordinated in part because they didn't have ready religious infrastructure to flip into a giant organized political movement and in part because they all had different ideas on how to do communism or socialism or democracy. The CIA in those years was busy interfering with anything and everything that could result in the spread of Communism (this was priority #1 for the CIA), and in the middle east pursued the strategy of supporting Islamism as a bulwark against the spread of Communism. A backroom deal was achieved because the Islamists were also willing to hunt and kill Communists just like the shah was (and they very much did continue the shah's secret police practices of hunting political dissidents down and imprisoning, torturing, and killing them), so power fell into their hands quickly and oddly easily for the most part, because the royal family was already a CIA puppet since the CIA overthrew Mohammad Mosaddegh in favor of the shah in the 50s. Shortly after that the Islamists did what always happens when the CIA supports an Islamist group come to power in the middle east: they turned on the USA. And that's what happened.

*If you're wondering why many Iranians abroad are monarchists, they were by and large wealthy Iranians who fled during the revolution (and also didn't much like the sound of Communism). They had prosperous lives in Iran, didn't starve, usually had decent relations with the government, and the secret police wasn't in the business of hunting down and killing the government's own supporters or the apolitical rich. So as far as they were concerned, Iran was great until the revolution fucked everything up. Most of LA's Iranian diaspora is made up of this kind of Iranian, which is also why LA Iranians are so materialistic. Of course, the CIA and American propaganda machines have also supported the idea of the shah's family coming back to power because why not reinstall a puppet if that's an option. Nowadays most Iranians would actually prefer a democracy or non-theocratic republic, though.
>>14318
I guess I didn't spell this part out, but yes, the Islamists very much did pull a fast one on everyone else during the anti-monarchy revolution and came to power while everyone else hadn't quite formed a unified organization and then began hunting down the rest.

But the revolution sure as shit wasn't done mostly by Islamists.
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>>14314
>Today I bless God for the face to face lesson in why women ought not to have any leadership power in any church.
The male side isn't much better. You have Lindsey Graham pulling his weight for Israel and getting the religious right to believe this is a holy war. He is outright admitting to going to Israel to help them convince Trump to fight.
>>14320
He is a heretic. "Christian zionists" haven't read the Bible. And understood what Jesus actually represents.
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>>14318
>most Iranians would actually prefer a democracy or non-theocratic republic, though.
Maybe the diaspora, I would imagine the Iranians in Iran are more of the position that for now they have to stick with the devil they know.
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>>14318
Forgot to mention this but part of the reason the shah was overthrown also had to do with the CIA coup that got rid of Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh because Mohammad Mosaddegh was trying to nationalize Iran's oil. The UK flipped out and Churchill wanted war (the videos of what perspective Churchill had on Iran at that time have to be seen to be believed). Eisenhower first tried a diplomatic approach with Mosaddegh ("How about you nationalize it in name only and still give everything away?") which didn't work and then had the CIA coup him in favor of the royal family that willingly gave up the oil, and also gave up rule over Bahrain in favor of independence, which also turned out to have a lot of oil, and Bahrain wasted no time becoming an asset of western powers and antagonizing the shit out of Iran, which is part of what's coming back to bite Bahrain now. So right off the bat the royal family were known as sellouts who betrayed their country to foreign powers.

Incidentally, in a context like that, their interest in westernization looked less like interest and more like people who are 110% sucking up to the west and don't particularly like their own country, by the way (that doesn't mean people wanted Islamic culture, except the Islamists, but those were always a small minority - as I mentioned before Persian culture and Islamic culture are not the same).

>>14323
Not exactly. Right now they have to stick with the devil they know, but for Iranians this government is only ever an occupying power or interim measure. They don't really regard it as "their" government. The sheer amount of anti-government sentiment and popular action is not small.

Judging by the new supreme leader, they got another hardliner in power so it's going to get ugly. The IRGC wasted no time going full praetorian guard on this shit. The new supreme leader is basically their guy and it looks like they had the Assembly of Experts by the balls in the current situation. There's a whole other problem too since the Islamic revolution was an anti-monarchy revolution and some of that shit even got enshrined in the constitution, and yet this looks a lot like hereditary rule and monarchy by another name.
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>>14320
I guess in a world where the dominant species learns by doing the wrong thing, somebody has got to be The Chosen example in how not to live. But that dominant species still learns by doing the wrong thing. And so man seeing the Jews as an instruction manual, and not a warning, is just as likely. Oh well.
>>14321
Jesus was a kike so...
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Reminder that >>14318 >>14319 >>14325 is a secularoid creature shilling secularoid slop, any one who wants a proper analysis of the Iranian revolution needs to read ervand abrahamian's works and study/glance over the Khomeinist ideology/Ali shiriati's work.

Telltale sign of secularoid middleclass slop merchants is the omission of the role of the organised religious working class in the overthrowing of the gaytheist monarchy.
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>>14328
Who died and made you king and arbiter of the supreme truth of the Iranian revolution, faggot? You read a book and now you think you know everything?

Listen, I never said the theocracy wasn't involved in the revolution. I said they sure weren't the only ones involved in revolution. And whoever the fuck is trying to sell you on the idea that Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was atheist is on some hard fucking drugs. Yes, the royal family did promote a somewhat more secular-seeming and largely more westernized society, but they were also involved in expanding the clergy and were in fact quite religious in their own way. That's a fact. As is the fact that the royal family had serious fucking problems stemming from the coup overthrowing Mosaddegh and selling out Iranian national interests. And it is also a fact that Iran had a lot of communist and socialist groups and revolutionaries active at the time. Nowadays you wouldn't know that there was nearly a second revolution toppling the Islamic revolution within years of its rise, but that was also a thing that was very much in motion until enough socialists and communists got arrested, tortured, and killed (the Islamic secret police made it a goal to destroy every group they could find, and most of them were rather sadistic about it too) and some other efforts at mass uprising failed that it wound up petering out, going abroad, and going back underground.

To be honest the writings you mentioned sound interesting, but don't fall into the delusion that whatever you've read is the sum total of the truth.
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>>14330
>Saaaaar not true not true!
>Saar phull truth phull truth!
>>14327
Depends on your definition of kike, technically speaking he's the reason kikes hate the cross sign and use the circle instead when writing (kikel) so in an also technical term he's the antithesis of kike.
Ironically also reason why they write it Xmas rather than Christmas because they hate doing that worse.
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>>14332
>why they write it Xmas rather than Christmas
I wonder where and when this myth that "χ-mas" is anti-christian originated.
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ITT: Shitskin towelheads debating each other how to appease a desert kike god correctly.
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Have the sandniggers bombed the water supply of the sandniggers?
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>>14333
American migration of the late 19th century, supposedly in the UK they say kike was used before by jews to refer to the eastern-most jews, so a sephardic slur against the ashkenazis.

>>14335
Iran and Kuwait had a couple of desalinations plants bombed, supposedly Israel had one bombed very early on.

>>14334
Settle down yid, men are talking war here and you won't be able to move the mindsets like in other imageboards
Oil seems to be going back to regular levels.
Happening cancelled
>>14337
Bahrain cancelled some orders due to new bombings and cancelled their upper-class education activities by letting them go for Spring Break vacations.
Iran placed 'menei's son as new supreme leader, and after getting his wife and daughter killed, the new order is that Iran supposedly will now start using the medium-load missiles rather than the "small" ones they were previously using.
Happening on a simmer
>>14337
>regular levels
It's still at about $95 versus $65 when the shit flinging started.
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>>14339
One of my schizo theories for why this is happening is oil prices being too low. "Drill baby Drill" is only domestically profitable at over $60 a barrel so fucking everything up makes sense if you are all in on "Fortress America".
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>>14340
Hardly schizo when America, or rather the American gas conpanies, have much to gain being the exporter to the world without the middle east. It is as much a blow to China as it is to OPEC. Europe has no choice but to suck up and further cement US dominance in the LNG field. 
As for America, the losses in radar sites and F15s alone push it into a few more billions into debt that will no doubt never be recouped. But who cares about that eh?
>>14337
That happened only because Trump went on one of his rants that the war is "over" despite no official declarations whatsoever. It certainly seems like markets anymore are at the whims of gambling and whatever famous person said without proof. This is at the same time Trump has said Israel has to agree to stop (it won't) and continued threats to do worse attacks on Iran if it strikes back (it will). Oil prices will have choice but to go up as the war continues and it is clear the Middle East will have nowhere to put the oil. There is also chances for more fireworks, such as the two Iranian cargo ships that left China being fat targets.
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>izrael stops getting pounded into the ground for a day
>jidf reemarges from their sewers to shit up the board
>>14342
Even if Israel agreed to end fighting would Iran do the same? It would only give their enemies time to regroup.
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Apparently Netyahoo's brother was killed, and Iran bombed Ben Gvir's house.
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>That filthy goy puppet trump better not TACO out. It'll be worse than ze holocauster
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Was destroying Israel part of the greater Israel plan?
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>>14350
OY VEY ITS ANUDDA SHOAH OVA HERE!!!!111!!1

How will Netanyahoo jew himself out of this one?
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>>14350
Holy cow! If any/all of this is true, what does this mean? Does this end the war or kick it into high gear?
>>14348
That might just result in all the Epstein files being dumped.
>>14350
>Netanyahu dies in a plane crash from running out of fuel.
>Dumpf nukes Iran in retaliation anyway because "Oy vey, goyim. It's your fault no one wanted to host my planes!"
Please be real.
Please be real.
Please be real.
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>>14355
>inb4 Netanyahu's plane emergency lands on a beach in Northern Cyprus because Hezbollah/Iran bombed the runways, a clear sign of their desperation and impending defeat t. Dup
>Netanyahu survives but civilians with phones approach the crash site and one enterprising Turk finds a slightly singed copy of the complete unredacted Epstein files
It's time to meme irresponsibly.
>Ayatollah gets nuked by the US of A
<headless state, now Iran is harder to confront due to direction being split asymmetrically
>Bibi's brother "might" wind up dead
<golly gee! please be real!1!
Even if this were the case, thinking it would change the direction israel has partook on is childish.
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>>14357
Who said anything about changing Israel's mind, silly strelok? I think everyone knows here that Jews are going to Jew no matter what. Even if it was the last Jew on earth. Because said Jew jewed every other Jew too hard. And that would still somehow be the goyim's fault.
>>14357
>A
<everyone more or less expected it in some form, or regarded it as a likely possibility at the very least
>B
<LOL
Come to think of it, have there been any confirmations of loss?
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>>14359
>spoiler
yes, 6 million
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>>14320
>Netanyahu showed the president "intelligence" that persuaded Trump to go ahead.
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>>14361
>putting mines
That makes no sense, drones can do that job way better.
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>>14365
at least u took new proxy to write something so retarded
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>>14364
The South Korean military have reportedly felt backstabbed THAAD systems being removed
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>According to a correspondent from BBC in Tel Aviv, the situation is extremely dangerous.

>Israel is under partial lockdown, and the streets are largely empty due to fear of Iranian attacks.

>Shops are closed, and residents say the situation has become intolerable.

>Even missiles from Hezbollah are reportedly hitting Tel Aviv without triggering sirens, something described as unprecedented.
>>14366
If they use mines how the fuck are the chinks and vodkaniggers suppose to cross, you retarded double nigger?
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>>14370
Same way they do in Ukraine, or any other conflict including them, through a clear corridor between them. Corridor you need good coordinates to move through.
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>>14371
Can they use mines without blowing up by burger fire?
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>>14361
>no navy
Then how are the placing mines? How could the retrieve mines?
>no communications 
Then how can they give orders to their navy that doesn't exist?
I really need to start taking track of outright lies just for this one. Like Iran getting a tomahawk from the black market, and that's how Iran bombed it's school full of girls.
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>>14344
At the very least they should receive a fully signed treaty to end this conflict and not some false promises. Then when Israel and US inevitably break the treaty, it shows how hollow working with them is.
>>14361
Lol what is the US going to do, take out the mines themselves? They are still afraid enough they only claim they will escort ships while doing nothing and having their fleets as far away as possible.
>>14365
True, but no ship wants to test that out. Mines have always been psychological but are perfect at passive defense. If the US becomes too aggressive against drones, the mines will remain.
>>14367
>political backlash
Trump is entering these situations where he immediately loses if he backs down, which only leads to escalation because he cannot offramp without looking like a complete retard for running away.
>War is over
Unless everything is hush hush, and Iran has been burned far too seriously to trust such discussions, there have been no indicators that there is indeed an end. Iran is standing firm and goading for a US invasion. If the war doesn't end in a week, oil is going to explode when they realize things are only getting worse. Also
>Iran is totally finished they have nothing
>Buuuut if they keep attacking then forget the last time I just said this was the largest bombing you ever will see, we'll bomb you like you never seen ever!
I suppose they have been neglecting somewhat far east Iran from the overall bombings. But to say it is over when the US so far has been very hesitant to launch a ground invasion when Iran still has hundreds of thousands of troops and are still launching missiles and drones shows they are not finished.
>>14368
The South Koreans should know the best that Israel is better then all if they truly read the Talmud.
>>14373
The tomahawk situation is more retarded when Trump first declared that Iranian's couldn't aim for shit and it was Iran that bombed themselves. So then, are Tomahawks, the same precision missiles that are striking across Iran, have shitty accuracy?
>>14372
Yes, obviously. Burgers would literally have to destroy every single fishing boat in the entire country, followed by entire civilian aviation. Followed by entire coast since I am pretty sure worst case you can have them float free.
Iran has been preparing for this sort of assymetric warfare for decades.
Also reminder we still dont know where 56 Iranian submarines are.

Come to think of it historically mining ships were more about the speed of mines deployment rather than anything else.
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>>14367
I love that their insane excuse
>Iran is using our images to bomb american bases
>sorry goy, got block that.
Literally
>OY VEY THE GOYIM KNOW
>SHUT
>IT
>DOWN

>>14370
maybe they are using smart mines, not sure how safe, effective, or cost efficient they are, but the simple rumor that Iran is placing mine is going to be enough to stop most vessels from crossing.
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Okay to be clear the pracitcality of mines is they're passive cheap and require no oversight when deployed. Drones are only useful if you've got 24/7 ISR over the straight with people ready to respond.
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Hegseth promises this will be
>most intense day yet
But lets be fucking real these faggots say this about everyday. 
>>14380
Also it can hold much more explodium. Hitting tanker with a drone is a minor annoyance and legal trouble. Tanker hitting a mine is worrisome.
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>>14367
>>14381
But also don't forget Iran already lost and its already over. Trump speech is so fucking annoying when he just goes back and forth on the same two talking points that contradict each other.
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What are the ramifications of the AI bubble popping due to war?
>>14386
For a lot of us personally the most immediate ramifications will be that we'll see a lot less slop online and we won't have to think about refinancing the house just to upgrade or maintain our PCs.
In more seriousness I have heard that AI is a huge speculator bubble/money laundering operation and if it bursts it might do some pretty serious economic damage in the West.
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>>14387
It's not just PC parts really. The entire AI rush has been the driving force for the US economy these last years. Having this dwindle due to cloud infrastructure getting bombed could start a recession if there isn't one already in the US, pardon my ignorance in this subject
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>>14388
>if there isn't one already in the US, pardon my ignorance in this subject
Sort of but it's more like stagflation than a conventional recession.
>>14388
Honestly, practically speaking, all of this money is not operating in real economy. As in, the price of bread will not get higher because AI bubble is kill. It will not even affect jobs market (well, maybe it will even be positive for it since). The ones getting fucked will be the rich retards that put their (government funded, borrowed) money on it. If it pops economy will not die, it will just go back to matching the real economy (which IS in the shitter.)
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>>14376
>56 Iranian submarines.
Grok is this true?
Anyway, wouldn't it be better to use drone ship miners for that type of job now?
>>14368
That's because they pissed off China and took diplomatic hits in order to install that missile system and it just got yanked away.

>>14386
The real problem won't be the lack of AI tech. It'll be the finance sector going to hell and everything suffering the consequences of that as companies go broke. Strictly speaking, they're already broke but everyone is honoring the IOUs they wrote for now and is willing to treat promises of future money as being worth money in the present. Once that trust collapses, it's going to be massively fucked because once those losses are realized there are going to be knock-on effects everywhere as they get forced to cover their debts and others start withdrawing their funds before the investment bank or whatever goes belly-up, producing a run on the finance sector.

>>14387
That's why Iran is going to drag out this war. If they can keep it going for one or two more months the European energy market will be squeezed to hell, the Israeli tech sector that is linked to the western AI bubble will be wreckage, and the American energy market will suffer rising prices with the tech sector suffering losses from overseas investments and general exposure to the European economy. Since the US economy is already in a precarious bubble, it can get very nasty. And the way the US has handled this has already alienated the middle east outside of Israel and South Korea to boot. The entire western sphere of influence and diplomatic and economic leverage is about to be seriously tested. If a multi-year economic crash can be effected in the west, the rest of the world can actually shift the power dynamic from the USA quite hard.
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>>14386
Depends on which explanation of the business cycle you go with. According to the Austrian explanation it'd mean that the damage that is being done by the boom would stop and the economy could finally start to recover.
>can't decisively defeat or militarily neuter Iran in spite of killing 6 million IRGC leaders and staff in decapitation strikes in the opening days of the conflict
>can't protect Gulf States from Iranian missile and drone strikes targeting US bases after promising to protect them from Iranian missile and drone strikes by putting US bases in their countries
>can't protect Israel no matter how many Iranian schools and hospitals are bombed
>can't protect tankers that aren't BRICS-affiliated in some way from traversing the strait of Hormuz let alone being moored near it
>refuses to escort tankers through the strait because it would practically guarantee the USN losing a frontline warship in direct combat to brown P*rsian monkeys that should have been destroyed 6 trillion times over but have yet to see the wisdom and peacefully let themselves be enslaved like enlightened cosmopolitan people of the modern age
Can the resident subhuman expert explain in graphic detail how the US is winning the war?
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Either a drone, a missile or a mine, it seems Iran has made good of their promise and bombed two tankers, one allegedly a US tanker, trying to cross the Strait.
On video there's one at least.
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The FBI warned police departments in California in recent days that Iran could retaliate for American attacks by launching drones at the West Coast, according to an alert reviewed by ABC News.
https://archive.is/6yKzv
Check my double zeros, a false flag might be happening soon
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>>14401
>relying on digits
I will give you leeway. It just means the false flag has already been done.
>>14400
So far the US's anti-drone laser on the Mexican border is 0/2, with its kills being a party balloon and friendly-fire against a CBP drone.
I wonder what they'd manage to hit if they deployed it in California amid some of the busiest airspace in the country. Even if it's not something with people on board, the disruption from forcing the FAA to issue another emergency shutdown would be incredible.
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>>14400
>It might be time for US commies to feel the sting of throwing open their borders to the Religion of Peace.
Heh.
Heh heh heh.
>>14386
The whole AI bubble is fake. If the economy wasn't so retarded, it would have a minimal impact. Its all a scam where Nvidia promisez GPU quantaties it cannot fulfill to data centers that aren't built yet for companies to use magnitudes more electricity then the entire US can produce with enough water to suck all the rivers dry. All on the idea that an AI that craps out after a few prompts is going to result in every single worker being fired and all those unpaid and broke workers will pay for AI and contribute to the economy that will bring forth a "utopia".
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>>14406
it has nothing to do with utopia in my opinion, they were trying to get ahead of the dot com bubble curve, hoping that the "killer app", the equivalent of google or facebook, was going to show up one day and all of their investments would make them trllionaires over night.
Personally, I think it was a deep state plan to extract as much financial resources from investment funds and weak millionaires to build surplus of data centers in case of a kinetic conflict in north america.
>>14406
>All on the idea that
Not really. The economic bubble no longer has anything to do with the actual claims the AI industry('s marketing departments) are making, and nobody investing in it believes them. They're investing because it's a bubble started and a bubble will be profitable if you're not left holding the bag when it pops.
To me the perfect example of that is that period a bit over a year ago (I think) when Chinese LLMs first started appearing, and Nvidia's stock took a bit of a crash. If the investors thought those models will be bad, it wouldn't have been a problem because Nvidia hardware would still be needed to run the models they were already running. If the investors thought the models would be good, it wouldn't have been a problem because Nvidia hardware would be needed to run those too. But Nvidia did take a dip, because the valuations aren't even based on the promises and hopes.
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>>14409
This is going into a tangent (even as Iran promises to target M8ddle East US/kike facilities. 
The thing with AI is that it is treated as a military/economic tool. If you don't have AI to counter "the enemies" AI, it will be inflated, propped up by the government. But arguably, that needs to be the case. See yurop. Folks keep on pointing to the 90s dot.com failure. However AI is probably best compared to 80s internet development. 
Either way, the fun thing is that low tech warfare makes this argument obsolete. At least at the lowest level. I am sue "officers" will be replaced by "AI", and the best "agents" will win.
>Trump says the war with Iran will end soon, as there is 'practically nothing left to target." 
>>14397
That basically nulls price change from the IAE oil release.
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>DRAFT DRAFT DRAFT THE MIGGERS!
>>14411
>IAE oil release.
*PROMISE of oil release. 
>>14412
Even if ha managed to find enough volunteers to form trumpen ss after so many betrayals there would still be no solid vector of attack against Iran.
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>>14398
>3
Where did the Iron dome go?
>>14404
>50 terabytes
Either they're bullshitting or they should help archive myrient while they're at it.

>>14412
>Special Military Operation
Well shit, that pretty much confirms the Russiagate allegations :^)

>>14413
>no solid vector
Just send in the Navy like in 1944 against Iraq, what could possibly go wrong?
>>14400
Reminder that Kash Patel gutted the FBI counterintelligence team tasked with tracking Iranian threats just days before US strikes. They're looking for false flags to make into a 9/11 incident to try to drum up support for war.

It's the same as last time during the 12 days war when suddenly all the media was talking about how Iranian deep-cover agents might try to blow something up soon even though that would make zero fucking sense for Iran to do since Iran was trying to exit that war, not manufacture cause for one by doing random dumb shit.
>>14412
>Getting drafted.
>In a land where prostitution is practically illegal.
>Polygamy is practically illegal.
>Marital rape is illegal.
>Divorce rates are sky high.
>And the age of consent is higher than puberty.
Who wants to kill themselves for a nation of perverts which cannot get anything right for keeping the perverts happy with enough pussy for them to want to die pointlessly in some God forsaken war lmao.
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>>14416
>>And the age of consent is higher than puberty.
يحتاج أحدهم إلى اقتناء قطة صغيرة من ديسكورد والمضي قدماً.
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>>14411
They got to get Trump his meds. He has been saying the same thing for multiple days straight now. You can't win every single day and the war isn't fucking over if you repeat it every day either.
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>>14416
Kill yourself you pedo.
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>>14419
>It was liking young women that got to him.
>Not the prostitution, polygamy, and legalized rape.
Pffffft. Pot calling the kettle black, I guess.
>>14411
>>14418
I don't think he understands. It's almost like he's shellshocked. He can't seem to get past his concept of "the biggest and bestest every thing automatically wins".
>"But I destroyed their navy and their airforce! They HAVE to give up! WHY AREN'T THEY GIVING UP?"

>>14396
>>14397
>>14398
Trump is got to be wanting to nuke Iran at this point. I wonder who's holding him back? I wonder if he gets ready to up and do it will Republicans pull a quick 25th on him and depose him to save themselves?
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>>14417
 مستخدمو هذا الموقع مثليين. يفضلون الذكور على الإناث. lmao
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Don't worry guys
Kaiser Donald von Trump will have our troops in par-tehran in 2 months
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>>14424
*Seine Kaiserliche Majestät Gottkaiser Zognald I. von Trumpenstein
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This 2nd term is so shit that even killary is supporting trump now
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>>14426
Hey, at least the Uniparty is still intact on some degree so not all is lost for globalism.
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>>14412
There are no insiders in the the polymarket, so stop paying attention, goy.
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>>14428
What is that supposed to be about?
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>>14430
The special military operations in Iran ending I guess, but it makes no sense, since the polymarket insiders is just one or two guys betting against all odds and winning.
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I fucked up the screenshot, sorry. 
>US forces enter Iran by december 31 ?
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>>14432
Wasn't there ongoing talks to gut that market, cutting out topics decided by government decisions? Which narket redid its terms when the supreme leader got bombed, and kikes that had bet didn’t end up winning?
>>14422
>
Trump is got to be wanting to nuke Iran at this point. I wonder who's holding him back?
Probably the more level headed in the military and Congress. The ones who know that shit is too crazy even for them.
>I wonder if he gets ready to up and do it will Republicans pull a quick 25th on him and depose him to save themselves?
The problem is if Bibi wants it, he'll have all the goyim at his feet begging Trump to nuke Iran. Too many Republicans are the bestest goyim in that regard. Just say its Christian and they'll blindly follow the Christ-killer.
>USS Eisenhower merely scratched by a yemeni pocket rocket in 2024 but sent home immediately for an ongoing two-year old repair process
>USS Ford suffers from plumbing problems amidst rumors of self-sabotage
>USS Lincoln confirmed to be fragged after an exchange with an unspecified Iranian ship, main deck damaged
>USS Ford now has caught fire for some reason with reports of injured sailors 
What's going on son
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The US lost a KC-135 over Iraq.
Looks like a midair collision while flying in formation; the other plane made it back to Israel.
>>14436
Soon there will be nothing left to drop nukes.
>>14437
That damage does not seem too extensive. When I read the headlines I thought they got it good.
Still, remember how USA was greatly set back after Pearl Harbor due to losing the one long range refueling ship that could actually get to Philipines at a reasonable speed? Kinda reminds me of that.
>>14438
>That damage does not seem too extensive. When I read the headlines I thought they got it good.
There were 2 KC-135s flying. The one in the picture survived. The other crashed in Iraq but the military has remained mum on whether there were survivors or not.
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>>14438
>That damage does not seem too extensive
I think they came close to losing both planes. It's not obvious from the photo but there's a big chunk of the vertical stabilizer and rudder missing; there should be a lot more above the flag.
Keeping the aircraft under control with that sort of damage to the control surfaces and hydraulic systems is not trivial.
And it's very possible that whatever that fin sliced though on the other aircraft was catastrophic.
>due to losing the one long range refueling ship that could actually get to Philipines
The US has a shitload of 135s. If you check https://globe.adsbexchange.com/ and hit the [U] button to filter for military, you can see there's always a bunch in the air, whether for training (mostly) or deployment. Four of them just left Portsmouth, NH as I type this.
>>14437
>midair collision while flying in formation
Where there any other aircraft losses reported?
A collision between tanker aircraft seems a bit unusual or maybe not.
>>14409
>To me the perfect example of that is that period a bit over a year ago (I think) when Chinese LLMs first started appearing, and Nvidia's stock took a bit of a crash. If the investors thought those models will be bad, it wouldn't have been a problem because Nvidia hardware would still be needed to run the models they were already running. If the investors thought the models would be good, it wouldn't have been a problem because Nvidia hardware would be needed to run those too. But Nvidia did take a dip, because the valuations aren't even based on the promises and hopes.
That's not how it works. The Chinese LLM proved you don't need fuckhuge amounts of hardware to make a good LLM so scaling operation costs downwards would very much be an option for greater cost-effectiveness. That in turn removed the boundless optimism that AI would require increasingly fuckhuge amounts of Nvidia hardware to reach the next level which is what gave Nvidia its insane valuation. Why make the most expensive AI model on the planet when you can get close for less than a hundredth of the cost? The latter is a way better investment. And a lot of that cost is Nvidia's profit. So this translated into legitimate diminished confidence in Nvidia being a super-seller to the previously anticipated degree.
>Islamic Resistance in Iraq officially designates the French as enemy combatants
inb4 Macron reintroduces conscription by complete coincidence.
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>>14437
>Looks like a midair collision while flying in formation
Anything but admitting that enemy fire might be effective?
(not ruling out the possibility but it is rather suspect how everything so happens to be an "accident")
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>Gen. Razin Caine says today is the busiest day
>Iranian military commanders casually being interviewed on the streets of Tehran 
Lel
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>>14437
>>14447
4 have been confirmed killed
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Dibs on Iran matching or exceeding the Millennium Challenge?
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>>14452
I am half expecting the USA to start pushing old war footage as new strikes on Iran that obliterate gorillions of Ayatollahs in every fireball.
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>oy vey
>the goyim
>they are using our tactics
>oy gevalt 
Assuming the info here is real of course, it could just be an Iranian psyop against kikes and israel.
https://archive.is/xFs0q
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>>14456
I mean Israel announces everything before they even do anything, so it wouldn't be hard copying tactics
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>>14453
>However, the loss of the aircraft was not due to hostile fire
Why would that be a question if Iran has no navy, no airforce, and no missiles? Hmmm. That really gets my noggin' joggin'.
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>>14453
Spoke too soon all 6 crew members been deceased
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>>14457
>gif
there's a slowmo video of me pulling that move and my friend's dog rushing to sniff my balls. it has nothing to do with the war, make of that what you will.
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Reportedly ,200 additional Marines are being sent to middle east 
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Perhaps not very relevant to the actual war discussion, but the White House posted this video on their xitter page recently.
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>>14458

>Why would that be a question if Iran has no navy, no airforce, and no missiles? 

Iran's oil flow hasn't stopped in the Persian gulf,  they are exporting  between 1.1 million barrels per day and 1.5 million bpd since the start of Iran war according to TankerTracker.com
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>>14463
I really hope that Nintendork will sue them, just to see both of them suffer.
>>14465
My headcanon is that the new supreme leader will show up looking like Venom Snake.
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>>14438
>That damage does not seem too extensive
It seems very minor, but the other tanker didn't make it back and the US hasn't confirmed the status of the crew...
Until now, 6 dropped

>>14443
>Missile strikes unit leader, have to announce involvement
>France says they were there to fight ISIS
>Iraqis claim the french are part ISIS, they are there to fight them with Iran's support
It's Americans in Syria 2.0

>>14452
Sounds like a chinawoman speaking arab, and he sounds like a american-french man 
I need to update my ears to these new accents.

>>14466
>the new supreme leader
The cardboard jokes are too good and especially now that Iran has showed great resilience and has made a lot of damage, the cardboard ayatollah is king, outmaneuvering epsteinite commanders with sneak tactics like Paper Mario does.
Also not actually the first time they've done that representation AFAIK

>>14454
They didn't meet all their 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕦𝕞 ℂ𝕙𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕟𝕘𝕖 goals because they were somewhat unrealistic, like beach bunkers that shoot speedboats with half-ton bombs on board, but also because the US did seem to heed some of the results and didn't put the navy very close to their shores, which give opportunity for the suicide speedboat run to happen.
BUT they did exceed in the missile taking out bases and radars part due to the sand dune missile silo technology which makes spotters have a very hard time detecting exits. They used "expendable" launchers to blast the radars and then when those were out they used the cool sand silos that are now way harder to detect, forcing the Epstein Allies to fly spotter planes.
I don't think Ripper took out all the nearby bases in 5 days so that's a surprise, the closing of the Strait is also not total as Iran has made some concessions unlike Ripper's scenario where he absolutely enforced POOL'S CLOSED with boats and missiles. Then again the guy didn't consider China as a big ally that needed the oil.
The conditions are different and that without including the Drone aspect that makes suicide bombers not a norm but an exception, they somehow need to make them faster for it to be a real nightmare.

Some people are also forgetting North Korea is going to get into that drone aspect now that they are possibly trading favors with Russia and Iran to get some knowledge of it. A Seoul assault with shelling and drone runs is going to be a calamity, nigh impossible to defend.
>>14470
>Sounds like a chinawoman speaking arab
About 40% of 40% of literary Persian vocabulary is Arabic but day to day words aren't very common to Arabic origin 
>chinawoman
Maybe you're hearing words that came from Turkish or Hindi that eventually got brought to the persian language. 
>he sounds like a american-french man 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_French_loanwords_in_Persian
>>14468
What's the game plan with those marines? Are they going to stay far away from Iranian waters as a purely naval force? Are they trying to try a ground assault except with small numbers and hope that works out well? Are they going to enter Iranian waters but largely do fuck-all?

The most I can see is attempted attacks on Iranian harbors or running logistics for bases and allies.

>>14470
>Some people are also forgetting North Korea is going to get into that drone aspect now that they are possibly trading favors with Russia and Iran to get some knowledge of it. A Seoul assault with shelling and drone runs is going to be a calamity, nigh impossible to defend.
What the fuck is North Korea selling that offering up drones is a good deal? NK is a fucking liability to all their allies. China is so fed up with NK that if NK didn't have nukes they'd already have toppled NK themselves. No one really trusts NK with weapons, not even their allies.
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>>14472
The fuck are you talking about? NK is shill, it is so shill in fact the vodkaniggers invited the best gooks to the hohol slapfest.
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>>14473
Oh right. If NK is contributing manpower to Russia's Ukraine war I could see Russia selling them military shit.
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>>14468
middle east is a broad term, could be going to israel to help with hezbollah.
Then again there are probably closerunits available for that so its probably yet another human sacrifice.
Marines could be udmsed to seize Iranian tankers too.
Which is WW3 scenario as it will force China to deplot their fleet to protect their oil
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>>14476
Speaking of which, China's been conducting some weird maritime exercises lately. Thousands of fishing boats in formation, thought to be part of the maritime militia.
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>>14470
I can't help but see old Sean Connery instead of the Ayatollah in that pic.
>>14437
Another 5 were clapped on the strip in Saudi Arabia.
>>14476
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/risking-energy-assets-across-region-trump-crosses-iran-red-line-bombing-kharg-island
Nevermind, looks like Marines will be sacrificed on Kharg.
>In an interview with a British newspaper back in 1988, an up-and-coming New York property mogul named Donald Trump was asked about his plans for the future. True to form, he had plenty to say, boasting that he might one day run for president and vowing to win back “respect” for America on the world stage. He also had stern words for Iran’s Islamic Republic, already a sworn enemy of America in the wake of the 1979 US hostage crisis.
>“They’ve been beating us psychologically, making us look a bunch of fools,” Trump told The Guardian. “One bullet shot at one of our men or ships, and I’d do a number on Kharg Island. I’d go in and take it.”
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>>14479
>when you vote an emotionally unstable geriatric midwit into office and he proceeds to get into a dick measuring contest with arabs that will result in a global depression at the best and WWIII at the worst
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>>14480
I mean it was this or Kamala.
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>>14480
>>14481
democracy moment
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>>14481
>>14482
Civilizations, particularly empires or semi-empires, get old eventually. Trump, Joe, Kamala, etc. are just the symptoms of senescence really when you think about it.
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>>14474
2 millions shells annually and loaned manpower buys you a lot
>>14483
This also fits perfectly into Spengler's model as a example of caesarism and raw power politics.
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>>14476
Sounds like an insane fucking plan. Iran pretty much sells all its oil to China. Blowing up or capturing the oil tankers would just help Iran, because China needs its oil badly and would therefore deploy its navy to drive out the US, and since Iran is being an effective ally against a mutual enemy, China would fund Iran and give them aid even if they're not getting oil, which together with the addition of military support from China's navy will more than make up for any losses Iran incurs from this sort of action.
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>>14490
It would be funny if some Iraqis attacked Kuwait just for old times' sake. Even if they fail to achieve anything, I think the (admittedly distant) possibility of a ground war on top of the current dronespam would make the gulf states even more deeply worried.
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>China please help me 
How can there be no Iranian military left if Donald is asking China to open the Strait? Makes you think huh?
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>>14493
He's basically threatening to blow up the Iranian oil himself unless China helps suppress Iran. It's an interesting threat, but not one that will work I believe, because China does not have decisive power in this situation, the entire attack on Iran is meant to be a move to isolate China and render its oil needs more vulnerable (ergo, China would only be helping the US fuck China's oil dependence by backing the US), and ultimately China can tough out a full hundred days with its own strategic petroleum reserve, longer if it still receives some oil to help cover its needs, which it doubtlessly will. The threat is a nasty one though.

Most likely China will make some counter-threats.
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>>14494
Why is he adding Korea and Japan into this?
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>Due to the devastation to its military bases in the region, the invading US army has fired its missiles at the Iranian island of Bu Musa from the cover of ports, docks, and hideouts in cities of the UAE.

>We announce to the leaders of the UAE that the Islamic Republic of Iran considers it its legitimate right, in defense of its national sovereignty and territory, to strike and target the launch points of enemy American missiles in shipping ports, docks, and the hideouts of US forces sheltered in some UAE cities.

>We ask the Muslim people of the UAE and population centers to evacuate the ports, docks, and American hideouts in UAE cities so that they will not be harmed.”
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>>14496
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>>14495
He's really straining for international support so he's abusing the military leverage the US has on those countries. It's a dumb call that will force more geopolitical realignment as these countries realize their defense needs are being abused as leverage. South Korea needs US military badly to save it from a North Korean invasion, and the US just removed South Korea's THAAD system to bring it to Israel I believe, so SK is pissed atm, but also more vulnerable. Japan has long-time hostilities with Russia (they never signed a WW2 peace treaty because of territory disputes) and could only recently build proper military forces. It also has bad relations with most of south-east asia, including China and South Korea, thanks to massive WW2 atrocities which the right-wing governments in Japan have never apologized or paid reparations for. So it's fairly isolated and needs the US umbrella of protection. Because of this - and the fact that they need oil, Trump is betting they will back him up. But because he is abusing leverage like this, these countries are realizing that leaving their defense needs in the hands of the USA is a very bad idea.

Trump doesn't realize it, but right now he is bleeding away the hard power and soft power of the USA on the global stage at record pace, because everyone has strong reason not to trust the USA anymore and reduce their reliance now, because it all gets abused and then the US will leave them out to dry when their own situations get tough.
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>>14498
Japan's case is even funnier if you consider that they are on average rather anti-war exactly because the burgers promoted a strong anti-war sentiment during the occupation. So if you asked some random kid from Tokyo whose great-grandfather died in a bayonet charge at some random island, he will most likely say that he doesn't want to see Japanese ships there.
>>14498
What could Dup realistically do if China, India and perhaps some smaller Asian polities affected by the oil cutoff (Vietnam etc.) decide to send a token force of ships to the Gulf with Chinese intelligence and the IRGC carefully coordinating in the background, only for the non-US/NATO ships to escort tankers strictly aligned with Chinese their own national interest in convoys/flotillas escorted only by non-NATO ships, with Iran continuing to target USrael-aligned assets all the while?
Worse, what if Iran starts to leverage this with targeted "openings" of the Strait in exchange for anti-USrael economic/diplomatic concessions?

>>14500
Japan deploying any of its JMSDF assets to the Gulf would be an instant political suicide for any cabinet and also unconstitutional.
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>>14500
I mean the silliest bit is that they don't even really have leverage in the situation, and SK sure as shit isn't taking the opportunity to provoke China because Trump asked. I guess they'll put out public letters of support or something and then say "welp, I tried, not sure what you expected"? It's going to be some limp-fisted well-wishing shit for their neighbors and maybe a sternly worded letter for the public. These countries don't have much they are willing to gamble with on Trump's behalf.

>>14501
Escorting is fucking useless when long-range bombing is an option. The real point of deploying a navy there, which is an option, is to say "if you fuck with us we will fuck with you." Like, China could send its navy to the gulf as insurance the US doesn't do something stupid against Chinese interests because if the US does China will attack the US navy. That's an option.
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>>14503
>say they will bomb all banks after one of their banks got bombed
>actually follow up the threat
One of the ancient Greek stereotypes about Persians was that they are quite honest. Who knows, maybe it still holds up.
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>>14504
Real estate index in Dubai has fallen by 30% of it's value in just 9 days. Mass property selloffs happening?
>>14505
BUY BUY BUY
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>>14506
The market will get worse before it gets better. It's a guarantee that Iran won't let them off anytime soon.
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>>14505
Wait....aren't most of the Gulf states Saudi Arabia included just a bunch of tribal Ayyrabs that don't really like each other but are/were kept content by huge shekel influx from oil?
No chance the ongoing economic and physical disaster will have social, ethnic and religious spillovers....r-right?

>>14510
>Iranians using naval necromancy
See this is why we need to bomb them even harder and biglier like it has never been done before in any preceding Presidency, America's heroic sacrifice for Israel will be remembered for generations and we must all do our part to ensure this legacy and show the world what it means to be a real American in these difficult times.
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>>14511
>No chance the ongoing economic and physical disaster will have social, ethnic and religious spillovers....r-right?
And they all basically outsourced their military to USA...
So there is virtually nothing stopping someone to grabbing a gat and starting his own kingdom.
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>>14512
Still funny how fast the Gulf States went from uber-rich tax/rape havens for the Epsteinite community & friends to just another middle eastern shithole in a manner of days, Lebanon took way longer to reach that state.
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>>14492
>2nd pic.
>Trump has fallen for the same trick he played on the Fake News during his first election: Exaggerating a true story so the opposition inadvertently tells something closer to the truth while fact checking their enemy.
Wow. We have come full circle.
>>14472
>What the fuck is North Korea selling that offering up drones is a good deal?
To Russia? troops and tons of shells
To Iran? propeller AFAIK and under the water perhaps some nuke mechanisms like Japan did at some point and maybe troops at some point
>NK is a fucking liability to all their allies
I don't see that if what they give is true, expendable troops and shit loads of ammo for your old systems is always good.
>No one really trusts NK with weapons, not even their allies
So far we haven't seen that behavior on this decade

>>14500
>because the burgers promoted a strong anti-war sentiment during the occupation
I think it got both ways from the media i've consumed from that era, they got pushed anti-war sentiments AND they hated the absolute guts of the american forces because the US liked to send rude troops in the form of niggers and cold workhorse glowniggers with no qualms or sensitivity towards civilians and local culture, let alone the product consumption that appeared and got pushed for economic purposes like Coke and Bubblegum, something they often reference in their media works.

>>14503
>Looks like Iran is starting to target financial buildings
The jews supposedly bombed a couple of national bank buildings in Iran a couple of days ago and the IRGC said the banking institutions are now game.
I find funny as fuck how the IDF bombs indiscriminately and Iran responds by telling Israel's allies that they will reciprocate even square with all of them despite these guys supposedly "only" hosting the bases.

>>14513
>Lebanon took way longer to reach that state
Lebs had in them like 2500 years of being decent sedentary people, and with that the social customs around it.
With all due respect to the 200 herders in the gulf states, they are rudimentary in comparison in terms of social complexities in living on close quarter urban areas, also the majority of people in these places are tourists and south asians, none with more than 70 years on the region and without having assimilated what they do.
Gulfs are somewhat aware of this as the strictest laws regarding nationality papers are there, Qatar asked not long ago like 30 years of residency to be considered a national. Of course the princes can grant you the papers if they care enough, some footballer got the papers just to play with them despite being in the area for like 2 years or so.
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>South Asians
Hold on, isn't most of the oil infrastructure operated and maintained by imported wage slave labor from Pajeetistan and elsewhere? Not to mention all the actual African slaves.
With oil revenues (and infrastructure) collapsing can they pay the salaries of any workers that haven't fucked off yet?
The oil-rich US-aligned areas of the Arabian peninsula sounds like some kind of Mad Max scenario straight out of old /k/ shitpost threads waiting to happen the more one thinks about it.
>>14518
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>>14518
Pajeets are considered "south asians".
>>14518
>the salaries of any workers that haven't fucked off yet
You're assuming the workers are allowed to fuck off. Among other restrictions, it's a common practice in the rich gulf states for the imported labour to have their passports and other documents confiscated by the employer to keep them trapped.
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>>14518
>imported wage slave labor
Menial work, yes, the big time oil technicians are a merc group of everywhere in the world, ranging from pre-commie era Venezuela, old school ruskies, modern scots, and i remember reading about most of the libyan oil techs being there too.
>Pajeetistan
I know they are a sub-continent itself but i put them inside the south asian bag, the chinky slims who kick and eat spicy food i put them in the southeast asian bag.
>can they pay the salaries of any workers that haven't fucked off yet?
Like anon said these places operate like old mining towns in the Americas, they "safeguard" your papers (confiscate them) and give you all the goods via their own sub-companies not that much to make life easier for you but also to control your movements and property uses. The only thing they need to be the literal mining town culture is to give you currency that can only be traded inside their own stores and shops, some companies might pay with exclusive cards aka glorified gift cards so they are practically like that.
And old mining towns always ended up in two ways, mining stopped or a massive shoot-out happened that killed either a bunch of people and/or the entire goodwill and inertia of the population.
>some kind of Mad Max scenario
One-hit wonder hubs in the middle of nowhere always look like a nightmare of wandering/"globetrotting" technicians and vain cosmopolitans, a mishmash of culture bubbles and tons of hardened security. In these scenarios the criminal organizations always flourish.
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>>14519
>>14522
>>14521
>shitloads of oil and luxury cars but barely any water sources or domestic agriculture because lol desert, everything that isn't oil has to be imported
>large population concentrated in dense urban centers surrounded by hundreds of miles of desert, with far more children and young men compared to other highly developed countries thanks to muslim breeding
>Sauds are the primary engineers and promoters of ISIS-style modern ((( Wahhabism )))
>they're also ethnically and culturally goat herders that lack the urban administrative cultural and social experience other cultures in the region possess
>the Saudi princes all hate each other's guts
>Saudi Arabia also happens to house Mecca, which is rather important
>Saudi Arabia continues to wage war against neighboring Yemen and its anti-semitic Houthis, who in spite of being under perpetual starvation and regular US-Israel assisted bombings for more than a decade operate a drone fleet capable of deep penetration all the way to the oil fields near Kuwait and are practically Prussians on the battlefield when faced with African mercenaries employed by the Saudis (and Saudi >officers+the occasional F-15)
>Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have spent gorillions of petrodollars on vanity infrastructure like artificial islands with luxury hotels on them or retarded dystopian arcologies, but not the kind of essential and redundant infrastructure needed to survive a protracted war against a peer enemy (in spite of having the money for it)
>some Gulf states like Qatar have a slave migrant labor population that dwarfs the indigenous one in size
>entire economy is oil, without oil there is no economy
How long can any of these countries maintain some form of functioning central administration before nature takes its course under current circumstances?
A month?
Less in the geographically constrained Gulf if Iran keeps up the blockade?
I don't expect much in terms of economic aid due to the countries typically tasked with providing it also being the ones most severely affected by the oil shortage.
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>>14523
>A month?
The new big cities in the gulf states do not have sewage, if you stop the basic services they will bust in a week.
Trash trucks that come once or twice a week happen there but with sewage, that's their major urban achilles heel, the gulf arabs are very archaic when it comes to sewage issues, they did their necessities in the rocky landscape and wiped with smooth stones not a century ago, now the buildings do not have proper sewages systems, for example the Burj Khalifa plumbing had to be re-done by non-arab outsiders because the arabs didn't know how poop/mudworks worked and did straight-line plumbing that had turds reach 500km/h velocities at the end, which wrecked the mud cisterns used to keep the poopy until a truck came to take it out.
Ironically enough one of the greatest mudworks engineers to ever exist was a math prodigy pajeet who also invented the modern elevator system in skyscrapers, i forget what he did exactly but he basically made a rollercoaster system in the emergency stairs so the poop flowed fluidly and endlessly without destroying the 19th century-era sewage networks.

If Iran really wanted to do damage they could take out the electrical grid and the depot with the poop trucks aside from the strait closure and half the gulf city-states would go bust in a week, a month if you rationed stuff on point and your security forces were very organized and civil with the serf population.
Realistically the princes would pay absurd amounts of money to have outsider service providers go there and work, poop trucks and such would be brought from Egypt and the energy problem would be half-covered with tons of portable generators like Ukraine did. Food would be brought in piggyback trailer routes via i don't know, Azerbajian-Turkey or even Egypt again?

>in terms of economic aid
In that regard perhaps the arabs have the fluidity or backing to exchange favors and services in other countries, after all the princes did get themselves into many businesses to make the money work, right now in cosmetics the arabs and koreans have all but dethroned Western Europe thanks to expensive gas chromatography machines and greek specialists, in sports a good chunk of teams along with their media services are gulf-backed so they can get revenue easily in the short-term, to put some mild examples.
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>>14505
Larry Silverstein's wet dream.
>>14524
Dubai's sewage plant is located at the Jebel port, it's all dumped into the ocean anyway
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I have a really dumb, basic civics question. How does the War Powers Act actually work in practice? The war started on February 28, so Trump has until April 28th before the War Powers Act kicks in, right? At that point, if the Congress has to pass a war powers resolution act and actually commit to the war or...it's basically over and Iran wins? Is that right?
Say Congress doesn't do anything, the military has to ignore Trump and fuck off from the MidEast?
Assuming I've got that right, doesn't Iran just have to run out the clock here?
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>>14528
American politicians are controlled by AIPAC. Rest assured that enough "lobbying" will lead to a favorable outcome for Israel. Where there's a jew there's a way.
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>>14528
>how does it work
<kikes control the vote
See last two votes, house and congress, on the matter.
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>>14528
Yeah, but it would be antisemitic for Congress not to pass a resolution, so there's no chance they won't.
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>>14498
>thanks to massive WW2 atrocities which the right-wing governments in Japan have never apologized or paid reparations for
Not to derail, but I was under the impression that most of the Nanking/genocide grievances were fabricated in the '70s by anti-war activists (USA) and Chinese sympathizers, seemingly immediately after Nixon opened trade with China. Probably worth mentioning how many Japanese had already gone along with the Pearl Harbor hoax.

Also,
>((( reparations )))
lol. lmao, even.
>>14532
Nanking was documented at the time by all sides, including German diplomats who were appalled despite being Japan's allies.
>>14523
>but not the kind of essential and redundant infrastructure needed to survive a protracted war against a peer enemy
I guess the sandniggers thought the burgers would protect them from everything.
>>14533
Was it really rape if the whores got paid in never ending rice?
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>>14505
How can that be happening if just admitting to liking a post about the bombings comes with jail time? Funny how Israel is similarly attempting damage control to stop the news of it being hit hard.
>>14510
The US action on ships is weird to say the least. It seems like they want to keep slme boats around just to have the news of them sinking them. Nothing else makes sense when they are bombing everything else, have air superiority, and most of the Iranian navy was out in the open.
>>14511
>civilian C-UAS
Might be effective against DJIs, but against a fast moving, long range suicide drone with basic hardening against jamming?
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>>14528
It is likely a repeat of the vote to stop Trump from Venezuela or Iran that ended with both the House and Senate majority siding with Trump.
Even then, it is highly murky as the War Powers Resolutions requires 48 hour notices, and presidents have often sent multiple notices for very similar events. Such as Obama sending 2 notices about ISIS and Syria, which the troops sent stayed for 12 years, but Congress likely sidestepped the issue as the troops were not in active combat for 60 days straight. Needless to say, Congress anymore acts just lets the executive branch lead while they are too afraid to go against the executive on their own. So Congress will likely do nothing. At best it'll impeach Trump down the line in a nothing burger, but will not curtail the executive branch for fear of impacting the next president.
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>>14533
Huh. Wonder what I was thinking of, then.
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>>14532
Have you seen that interview with Walter Filipek where he holds up the picture he got from a Jap of him and his buds lopping heads off in China?
>>14529
>>14530
>>14531
>>14538
Alright, but just humor me for the sake of understanding the theory. If Congress didn't actually pass an Iran resolution in 60 days, what happens?
>>14537
Or the Iranians are confusing us just like we confused the Japs with the USS Yorktown. Why the fuck we ever decided to make the naval equivalent of a wizard front-liner with CON as the primary stat who can tank I don't understand, but hey it worked.
>>14539
>Wonder what I was thinking of, then.
Possibly the Korean comfort women, which is what >>14536 seems to be thinking of. Maybe he misunderstands the word "rape" to only mean the sexual sense.
I'm surprised people on a site like this are unfamiliar with that situation, because it's also an example of how denazification was handled post-war. The diplomat and his family lived in absolute poverty during the Allied occupation of Germany, because after a coworker informed the Allies that he had been a Nazi Party member, he was legally forbidden from having any form of employment. Until his death he lived entirely off food donated by Nanking survivors.
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Pretty ironic that that, of all posts, was where I accidentally pasted a line from a spreadsheet I use to systematically track and defeat chink players in a game's pvp.
>>14540
>Alright, but just humor me for the sake of understanding the theory. If Congress didn't actually pass an Iran resolution in 60 days, what happens?
At this point?
>Wars begin when you will, but they do not end when you please ~Niccolò Machiavelli
Even if burgers fucked off completly Iran has no reason to back down from a won war.
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>>14527
If they have only one then it's pretty interesting as a hit but i think that's a war crime and not as ambiguous as hitting a poo truck depot.
>all dumped into the ocean anyway
Typical south asian rascals

>>14528
American politics are internal but controlled wholly by the jews externally, so like anons said they will jump it by jewish lobbying giving a cut to tons of politicians, doing Obama-era technicalities and/or ignore the act and not invoke it at all despite 2 or 3 guys there mentioning it all the time.
Epstein Files Act and its numerous deadlines and technicalities being ignored is enough proof that congress will simply ignore a problem if it is too inconvenient.
>If Congress didn't actually pass an Iran resolution in 60 days, what happens?
Nothing, they will ignore it until they make another action retroactively justifying the previous stuff

>>14532
China is a worm can, despite the Nanking stuff being way over exaggerated there was instances of crimes there, but also by the chinaman militias.
Also to be completely fair the Occupation gov headed by the King was as much of a war crime debacle as the textbook Nanking and makes the chinamen very complicit of it but they choose to ignore it, China for a couple of years was a cruel sweatshop hell similar to what the Uyghurs and some tibetans are experiencing right now.
The chinese are airheaded when it comes to suffering so they tend to ignore that and not push it as much as, say, the koreans who are angry at the nips for whipping them to construct good infrastructure and paying them for whoring their women at gov brothels.
And to be evenly fair the koreans have already made Japan pay if we consider the top yakuza are korean-descendant and pushed up a lot of the korean zaibatsu before the US economical aid packages of the 90's.

>>14533
Diplomats were also known to confuse uniforms all the time, like eastern euros confusing the german and soviet uniforms, or the americans executing by mistake the royal troops rather than the boxer insurgents in the Boxer War because they are rook the same.
There's video interviews of chinese elders claiming the chinese militias were as bad as the japs, which means both killed civilians for rations and if they got annoyed by them.

>>14542
>I'm surprised people on a site like this are unfamiliar with that situation
I wasn't familiar with your example but there's other ones that had me surprised, like Boxer War movies in Hong Kong defending the brits (McDonald) and claiming it was a german-led idea (Waldersee), ignoring the biggest war criminals were brits and americans patrolling for blood.
Also how France still hunted collaborators in the 70's and stripped the subjects from all civil rights, meaning they were fair game for anyone to abuse and couldn't participate in legal proceedings.
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>>14546
>the Occupation gov headed by the King 
The what now? Are you speaking about Manchuria?
>the chinese militias were as bad as the japs
The commies pretty much won the civil war because Mao came up with the revolutionary Get it? strategy of not murderraping every village his troop came across, and instead tried to get into the good graces of the locals. Which ultimately worked, but it also shows that pretty much every other chink army was murderraping random villages as part of their standard operations. In fact, many of the commie guerrillas became commie guerrillas because a non-commie force or an other surprise drafted them, and the standard procedure was to literally tie a rope around new recruits' necks to stop them from escaping, so they did escape and joined the commies as that was the only realistic alternative. 

You should watch videos from this channel if you want to learn about the chink civil war without reading a book:
https://inv.nadeko.net/channel/UC0dgUUfQJwif1nI7xsZ-ZnA
And yes, it's made by a professor from Commiefornia, but he has no problems calling out the CCP. Case in point:
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=qgAFK8m2_bY
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Way too many Bibi rumors, even my local town news are reporting the mumblings in Israel about where is the man with the ears on everything.

>>14547
>Are you speaking about Manchuria?
Yes, made a word salad out of it
>came up with the revolutionary strategy
I mean it's a Lenin/Gandhi train tour strategy but i get the point, it did work because silly old republic chinamen were too harsh on people with the old manchu ways of dealing with civilians. Didn't help the warlords generals didn't like each other and the most successful ones were outright old royalists who never changed their ways.
>the chink civil war without reading a book
Thanks, will check, HK movies are entertaining but not really accurate AT ALL other than spike historical curiosity
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>>14548
Netanyahu is missing from the latest Israeli Security Briefing which he usually chairs. The entire committee seems somber. Rumor has it Netanyahu's home has been blown up recently.
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is there a single reasonable person that unironically thinks what USA is doing is even good for USA? I cannot help but think everyone shilling for whatever the fuck this is might just be under influence of some monkey brain virus caused by vaccine. USA proven weaker than anyone ever thought possible, they literally cannot secure one singular narrow sea passage
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>>14550
There's another government shutdown going on with DHS. Republicans control the house and senate there were already 2 shutdowns during the Trump administration
>Iran considering to let tankers pass if the oil is traded in Yuan
F Pedodollar.
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Bahrain is winding down operations on its aluminum smelting plant that provides up to 2.2% of the world supply. Evidently Gulf states represent 8.35% of world supply. Iran is insanely lucky to have such a chokepoint as it has completely embarassed the US with it.
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>>14540
>If Congress didn't actually pass an Iran resolution in 60 days, what happens?
If everything is being followed by the letter, then Congress would immediately tell the president he would have to withdraw from Iran. Then if he doesn't, it would likely lead to courts and a crisis as it would be a direct standoff between Executive and Legislative branches.
>>14550
Depends on which sids oof USA. The elite side of the USA needs to protect Israel and destroy BRICS.
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>>14556
>Iran is insanely lucky to have such a chokepoint as it has completely embarassed the US with it.
Yeah, smart of them to put their country right next to it maybe a slightly less demented president, who had some advisors who cared enough to look at a world map and read the CIA fact book entries of all countries they see, would have come to the logical conclusion that it's better for everyone involved if they just try not to bother that place more than necessary. Luckily, dup is too much of a fun loving guy for that.
>>14555
That silhouette doesn't look like an American plane. The cockpit's "hump" looks more like a Russian design, Su-27 or MiG-29, than any American plane. Iran operates the latter, so it could be friendly fire, but whoever's it is I'm not convinced it's being shot down, or even that it's from this war.
While I can't prove it, since the posts have since been deleted, that looks a LOT like footage I saw posted in relation to >>14150 over a week ago. And in that video it wasn't clear if the plane was hit by anything; the "explosion" seemed to just be flares, which saturate out the IR camera (that's the point). Nothing is seen after the flash that suggests the plane does anything more than keep flying.
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>>14556
>The elite side of the USA needs to protect Israel and destroy BRICS
Japan is one biggest providers of the road belt initiative and the west is allowing it to happen
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>>14558
Sorry both sides are throwing propaganda at each other so it's hard to figure out what's going on. I still haven't figured out why Iran hasn't targeted some of Trump’s estates in the middle east
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>>14561
Low value target. All it would achieve is pissing off Trump and they don't need to waste bombs to achieve that. It might also get Iran in trouble for targeting residential areas or shit.
>>14556
The Persians learned about the fun of having choke points back during Thermophyle I suppose.


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>>14549
Do you think Bibi is dead or badly injured? Or is he and his cronies hidden in a secret bunker somewhere? If the latter thin that's pretty funny given that Pete "Bloodfeast" Hegsethagedge saying that the Iranian government is hiding like rats.
>>14563
Options are:
>kikes are rats
<any other option
I would bet on rats. Didn't save the New York video.
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I only have this version.
>CIA is preparing charges against Tucker Carlson for stating this is a kike war
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I just got reminded of the Millennium Challenge 2002.
I suppose the sinking of carriers didn't happen yet because they're staying far away, but other than that?
>>14569
Millennium Challenge 2002 was complicated. Van Riper was basically cheating his way to success by abusing all the rules of the game, leading to jokes about lightspeed motorcycles because he declared that he would communicate by motorcycle courier and set the motorcycle travel time for the simulations as zero (so instant, which is beyond unrealistic) and tiny boats carrying too-large-to-carry rocket platforms, among other things. When they redid the sim the next day and banned most of that chicanery, he threw a fit and complained high command was being partisan and unfair and unwilling to accept a loss when the real problem was that he was doing the challenge in ways that cannot reflect reality when it's supposed to be a test of real-world strategy.
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>>14559
Japs cannot defend those initiatives when push comes to shove and they have been hit twice with era-defining incidents via jewish operators, with both their stock crash in the early 90's and the Fukushima reactor incident just after getting out of the economic crisis of the late 00's.

>>14563
>Do you think Bibi is dead or badly injured?
Like anon said there's too much propaganda around, much more so than last time and with less footage too, we can only theorize.
>hidden in a secret bunker somewhere
He did fly to Germany early on so he might as well still be there, probably Frankfurt which is a massive jew haven or Berlin but i don't think he's there. Greenscreening/AI footage of him visiting the struck places is an old trick at this point, seeing that Zelensky appeared all over the front in the spawn of a couple of days only to then visit western Europe.
>hiding like rats
Jews accuse someone else of what they do, and the american gov system is a collective of cheap puppets with enough independence to defend their masters as they see fit, but because of their nowadays cheap nature they use low-quality or cliche arguments to defend their ideological decisions.

>>14569
No fishing boats with exocets as side drivers but it surpassed the radar and base destruction, also perhaps they jumped the comms aspect that IIRC were mail carriers in fast as fuck motocross bikes constantly moving to deliver orders, i suppose that by giving the commanders and captains a small book of pre-determined instructions in case of total war they skipped the difficulties of trying to secure a safeway in the first weeks.
The cons of that is those guards are now doing what they want or were ordered even if the objectives changed, that's why the president and Larijani said one thing and 2 hours later some commander bombs a place they specified they wouldn't. It is noted that when that happens the Iranians apologize and make concessions within the day, it is interesting as it really implies warlord auto sufficiency in decisions, bad or not... but that also implies warlords know when to retaliate which means they watch the news or have some system that failchecks when an asset is bombed, which i don't think the infrastructure is that connected.
The parameters are different to be fair, considering drones and that the missile silos are far better than imagined, but i think Ripper is sipping tea with a big grin right now.
>>14570
>abusing all the rules of the game
Tech advantages he said lol
>so instant, which is beyond unrealistic
IIRC he did that stunt to imply they would develop an immediate check system, an archaic way to say the Iranians would have internet because he noted the exercises had the iranians still using radio signals and numbers stations and those are easily intercepted or destroyed. Truth be told iranians have satellite internet and perhaps something worse which is pre-made orders, so they carry orders even before this war happened.
Red Team, which was an Iran/Iraq-esque theocracy, was considered goatfucker central in that exercise. Speedboats with unholy amounts of ordinance i think was more unrealistic.
>banned most of that chicanery
They were right in focusing on the right aspects of the exercise for an IRL event but out of butthurt from his fits they also took out a ton of his command decision to the point he was at the mercy of the attacks with mostly defensive arguments

>high command was being partisan and unfair and unwilling to accept a loss
I mean it was true enough, they overdid the reset parameters after he abused the shit out of it, in my opinion the major problem was the US trying to simulate a medium exercise and made a giant interactive context which could be, in theory, changed and customized... and so the game tester changed the shit out of it to accommodate his medium incidental context he was dealing with so he could win, when told he couldn't do that they erased most of his powers and made him do a pre-set medium exercise with limited powers, and when he played along the Blue Team pulled similar shit out of nowhere (although some with good arguments) like making the carriers spawn in front of the shores and cargo/troop airplanes that didn't need a runway to land, which was the V22 Osprey that he probably referenced as a what the fuck is that, when told it was an unexpected asset he argued he also used unexpected assets.
It was a shit show by the organizers, they expected a set-piece battle and didn't think Ripper would improvise so much, it's like telling Rommel he couldn't do the wooden pole grid in the fields because reasons.
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>>14540
>Have you seen that interview with Walter Filipek where he holds up the picture he got from a Jap of him and his buds lopping heads off in China?
No, but I'm about to look it up.

>>14542
I knew about comfort women, actually. Nanking specifically I'd heard that there were inconsistencies and thought it was similar to the Death Camp/Concentration Camp fiasco. That said, I've never seen entire threads hit autosage from walls of Nanking infographics like the Holohoax does.

>>14546
>>14547
See, something like these. It seems more than possible with the 9001 civil war factions someone or another was performing atrocious experimentation on the locals, very possibly with Gwailou gold backing their efforts, and it'd be easy as sin to pin on the Japs once they leave and the cat's out of the bag. 

>>14558
>could be friendly fire
But that's not how you spell 'Kuwait-' OH! Nevermind....
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Maybe Nigeria will soon have competition from the House of Saud in the field of Email warfare, those retirement 401ks aren't going to last forever.
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>>14566
OY VEY SHUT IT DOWN

>>14577
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>>14573
Somehow I don't think his kike war is going as planned if he's resorting to threats.
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>>14581
He's threatening to shutdown anyone not praising his genius operation
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>>14563
>Do you think Bibi is dead or badly injured? Or is he and his cronies hidden in a secret bunker somewhere? If the latter thin that's pretty funny given that Pete "Bloodfeast" Hegsethagedge saying that the Iranian government is hiding like rats.
It's all rumors atm. We really don't know what's up. If he's dead Israel would definitely cover it up. If he's injured Israel would cover it up. Or maybe he was busy with other shit and Israel was covering that up. Fuck knows.

>>14572
>IIRC he did that stunt to imply they would develop an immediate check system, an archaic way to say the Iranians would have internet because he noted the exercises had the iranians still using radio signals and numbers stations and those are easily intercepted or destroyed. Truth be told iranians have satellite internet and perhaps something worse which is pre-made orders, so they carry orders even before this war happened.
Ah, that's more reasonable I suppose. And yes, they carry pre-made orders. Nowadays they developed that into the entire Mosaic Defense system they're using atm (they developed this years after the Millennium Challenge 2002 though) where they went to extreme depth of making everyone replaceable and their units capable of autonomous decision-making and function with pre-made orders as you said. Part of the reason why decapitation strikes are useless. But in Van Riper's days communication might've been an actual weakpoint, though they would have a better system than just radio signals with a backup in case of jamming or other blackouts.

>Speedboats with unholy amounts of ordinance i think was more unrealistic.
Tbh, at the time of the Millennium Challenge this was the exact strategy Iran had developed for taking on US warships. President Reagan had wrecked the Iranian navy earlier but stopped short of declaring war, so Iran redid their navy to take on the US, and their solution was tons of speedboats with lots of ordnance for asymmetric warfare instead of a warship competition (they built their new warships smaller and weaker mostly). The new strategy is drone boats with ordnance. And this is all a big part of why blowing up Iranian warships doesn't account for much reduction in Iran's naval power.

>I mean it was true enough, they overdid the reset parameters after he abused the shit out of it, in my opinion the major problem was the US trying to simulate a medium exercise and made a giant interactive context which could be, in theory, changed and customized... and so the game tester changed the shit out of it to accommodate his medium incidental context he was dealing with so he could win, when told he couldn't do that they erased most of his powers and made him do a pre-set medium exercise with limited powers, and when he played along the Blue Team pulled similar shit out of nowhere (although some with good arguments) like making the carriers spawn in front of the shores and cargo/troop airplanes that didn't need a runway to land, which was the V22 Osprey that he probably referenced as a what the fuck is that, when told it was an unexpected asset he argued he also used unexpected assets.
Yeah I did hear that they went overboard in putting constraints on him. But if they were being fully hypocritical and doing the exact kind of improv they were banning him from they really were just making a joke out of what should've been a genuine exercise.

>It was a shit show by the organizers, they expected a set-piece battle and didn't think Ripper would improvise so much, it's like telling Rommel he couldn't do the wooden pole grid in the fields because reasons.
Come to think of it there was similar expectation by the Trump administration now that Iran would be similarly incompetent and fold under US might now.

Tbh it does sound like Van Riper had the right ideas.
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>>14582
Oh boy, Trump is desperately losing control of the narrative if he's claiming Iran is winning the propaganda war. If Iran had a good international propaganda machine, people wouldn't be thinking of them as Arabs and Taliban-supporting terrorists (both of which are wrong).
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>>14583
>It's all rumors atm. We really don't know what's up
Israel put out a video of him at a cafe mocking the rumours of his death.
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>>14585
Ah, that's definitely him imitating the way Iran's leadership humiliated Hegseth by having the president and some others out in the streets while Hegseth was talking up how they were cowering. But if he's alive that makes sense. There are a lot of these rumors that turn out false. Half the reason for the rumors is to force the other country into continually proving their leader is alive.
>>14584
I'm noticing his rants are slowly growing larger the longer the war goes on. At this rate he will be like one of those Mein Kampf translators with a commentary on the book that is longer than the actual book. Although I have only heard of such a version. And I have not tried looking for myself. But I would not be surprised at such a version existing.
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>>14569
The sinking of the carrier fleet in the Millennium Challenge required Iran to launch the surprise attack with a large number of small attack craft. That the US launched the surprise attack and its fleets are well away from danger changes the paradigm. The carrier fleets are likely outside of the expected operating range of most of Iran's missiles and drones. The only major attack on the carrier fleet were a few ballistic missiles, at least that we know of. That also means any sufficiently large attack force would have to cross a large body of water that is scouted by various US assets. They could also attempt to sneak individual units through and at least score a direct hit. Iran could also be awaiting for the fleet or some of the naval assets to get closer to strike as well, as if it is guaranteed suicide mission with little results, why waste the limited forces on it?
As an aside, it is funny that America will keep saying it can escort ships but refuses to do it. Now that America is asking for other nations to do it while refusing to do so is just pathetic.
>>14585
There's definitely several easily-detectable anomalies with the video of "Netanyahu". It's clearly AI-doctored.

The question is why yidsrael would release a highly suss video when they knew it would be picked apart easily?
>>14589
Okay could someone just post the vid now?
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>>14590
Sure.
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>>14591
No sound?
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>>14592
All I have sorry. Go to the original I guess. The fubars don't need sound to see.
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>>14579
>2nd vid
>Slavic lettering on the back of the firefighter's jacket at the end
>>14580
>Only we have those capabilities!
Many countries can bomb another, only America tends to take that personally and gets involved somehow. That said, there is no doubt the bombing of Iran is successful. As it continues it will no doubt make it harder for Iran to get back up without significant outside assistance. But that doesn't mean Iran can't bite back and with enough force to make it painful. All the countries fighting look indistinguishable from each other in that they are all censoring unfavorable news and spinning so so much. Iran at least doesn't pretend to be a democracy.
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>>14593
What are the FUBARs exactly?

>>14594
Iran absolutely does get outside assistance though: from China and Russia. And there usually tends to be some humanitarian assistance in general (which always pisses off Israel).
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>>14595
These are two that clearly defy physics.
> 1, 2

There are at least four others (I suspect more will be uncovered with sophisticated image analysis afterwards -- there's already some indication of it at a first signals pass):
-  The face is the wrong shape (based on historical profile photos), particularly the nose.
-  The date on the machine is wrong (this is really telling. only a DIE hire like a pooshit would miss that one).
-  The mouth isn't drinking anything (the fluid level stays constant).
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>>14596
Said first signals pass.
>>14596
>The date on the machine is wrong 
15/03/2026? What does your calendar say?
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>>14598
Here's a cleaned version.
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>>14599
>proof of life video
<fuck up the date
How incompetent are these people?
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>>14596
>1
What's unusual here? The zipper catches on his hand, and as he keeps moving his hand (specifically, pushing his fingers outwards specifically BECAUSE it's catching) the zipper comes unstuck and "jumps". There's nothing odd there. Have you never put your hand in your pocket before?
Notice that the clip you posted starts with his hand already partly inside the pocket, which makes it look more unnatural because you never see the flap in the "neutral" position until it uncatches. It makes it look like it moves too far. When watching the full video it looks completely normal.
>The face is the wrong shape (based on historical profile photos), particularly the nose.
Your fourth pic's nose certainly appears to match the right side of the third. In the frame that's being compared to in the third pic, there's motion blur as he turns his head, which is obviously going to make it look different even in a real video. 
>The mouth isn't drinking anything (the fluid level stays constant).
Pretending to drink is unsurprising for a staged PR vid.
>>14599
It very obviously doesn't say 2024. There's a 4 in the time next to it that you can compare it to, and it's clearly a different glyph than even the "cleaned"/edited version. 

The jittery jump cuts are certainly odd. Some are normal, such as the one that was clearly just pausing to wipe off the milk moustache, but others are very strange, jittering mid-motion. But a lot of what you're pointing to is just grasping at straws where there's nothing irregular about it.
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>>14596
I don't know what is real or fake anymore!
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>>14600
That was my point earlier : (>>14589). Why would they do this? They are not literal pooshits, and this is clearly intentional. I think the chief kike rat is dead personally (COMIC IRONY: a pooshit did him in!  :DDD )
>

But why this intentionally-fake video "proof"? What's ((( their ))) game?

>>14601
Cherry-picking. There is  a strong weight of evidence already, and more is likely coming. And at least two of the kike's favorite gayop distribution tool ("AI") claimed the video is AI gen'd (jewgle, grok).

And one more thing:
The coffee shop isn't located where it was claimed; it was also closed.

>>14602
Lol.
THE FUN HAS BEEN DOUBLED!
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>>14583
>Mosaic Defense system
The "Every Indian is a Chief" strategy, ruthless as fuck if they are all competent enough which seems the case here too, along with what you mention regarding long-term operations.

>and their solution was tons of speedboats with lots of ordnance for asymmetric warfare
Which is crystal clear when 𝕄𝕚𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕟𝕚𝕦𝕞 ℂ𝕙𝕒𝕝𝕝𝕖𝕟𝕘𝕖 happened, and i agree that the facts are what you mention, but by that argument i meant that the US organizers were pissed that Riper tricked the system rather unfairly specifically there in terms of the amounts of ordinance.

I took some time re-looking for stuff and wasn't conclusive but i do remember very well that some source, either a video or a text with pictars, had the specific "pre-made" bomb used by the boats and i always remembered the Exocet analogy BUT for starters let's go with the speedboat itself, the name i found for the class is an Ashurah-class speedboat which would be a "Boston Whaler" type (pimped small fishing boat) that is 6.7m long and can carry 1 ton, goes at sanic speedz of 90 knots aka 170kmh. 
Now with the ordinance i recall it was some obscene stuff that wasn't that supposed to be mounted on a speedboat, the Exocet is 6m long and weights 800kg, so if Riper used the venerable anglo drowner we are saying he played the game hard as it would imply 2 more dudes driving at the very most, no fuel for a trip back and placing the thing exactly in the middle. If he had used some other thing like a russian KH-35, 4.5m long and 600kg, it sounds more plausible but not for the big carriers themselves, that would need the canonical ship rapist from the Iran-Iraq War, the Silkworm aka The Styx aka Termit P15, which is 6m long and 2600kg but if stripped down to its explosive charge form it's like 500.
I think you can get my point, they would need to re-design the speedboats' decks to fit the bomb and then drive on top of it at full speed IF they can keep buoyancy and balance at all due to a massive dong being placed in the middle. That's a realistic but very creative liberty Riper used to fuck the carrier group, and if we go by numbers he supposedly sank everyone in 10 minutes IRL, mostly because the group was in front of the beach already when the exercise happened and he had all the speedboats in position guarded inside naval depots with cargo primed to make anyone bumping with them meet Davy Jones. I think that's a factor in the overzealous reaction too, he literally finished the game in less than 15 minutes which tried to simulate the first hour or so from the first strike, which would result in specific situations that would be simulated in real time under live-fire games; he basically made half of them (120+ million dollars spent) useless as he had already dealt a massive dent on the simulator.

Also looking for the details about the speedboats i found an aspect i didn't remember, Riper did identify quickly what the Ospreys were doing and planned a countermeasure, because of the big motors that had a big-ish radar profile he added a new ruling in that big ass signatures, presumably at low altitudes, were Ospreys with valuable stuff so he ordered shooting missiles at them indiscriminately knowing they weren't fast enough and couldn't climb steeply. 
So he was interrupted and told to stop doing that, the argument was around the idea he couldn't shoot at them because he wasn't supposed to see them.
lol also while looking for Exocet info i stumbled upon an article/book excerpt about how the Argentinians had to make-do trying to make the missiles work because they got them without the instructions due to the embargo happening mid-purchase. Very interesting story, even has a moralistic ending jej

>they really were just making a joke out of what should've been a genuine exercise
It seems the players were genuine about trying to make an exercise but the creators were adamant about the set-piece factor and generals being inflexible towards their doctrine, both leaders were creative but Red was punished way more than Blue, supposedly the latter had made big plans on spotting AA defenses but after the organizers saw how much time he was spending trying to take them out, they just ordered Red to put all their assets visible on the surface, no hiding them at all which made Blue's original plan inconsequential.

>Come to think of it there was similar expectation
Venezuela got them cocky, while on paper that country represents a formidable foe in terms of the long-run of the conflict, in reality Venezuela is under a cuban/chinese/stalinist flavor of communism which means control by demoralization and subsistence which translated means most of its population is too hungry and demoralized to do anything at all, ideologically dead due to the vast inconsistencies of their leaders so it's not even a pious existence and the elite class is too corrupt to be loyal to a cause. So in practice the US only had to bribe the underlings and smash the windows to have them fold themselves. No amount of advanced weaponry and mastery of the terrain can overcome a soldier who is 0% convinced of his country or ideals. At least the Iranians are hard boiled in conflict and a somewhat consistent ideological background that has seen the degeneracy of not doing that, Venezuelans' ideological conflict had the solution that communism represented being, literally, an inflation of a little more than 800,000,000,000% (a 2000-era 1bs. = 1^17 bs. of today) and 10 million of the population gone (1/4 of the population), and that without being at war with anyone at all, with embargos coming "only" after their inflation was at 100,000%.

>Van Riper had the right ideas
He seemingly has a ton of experience in different types of conflicts, 1956-1997 supposedly, an instructor who served in Vietnam twice and was a marine battalion and company commander there until the late 60's, was thrown into Desert Storm as a marine colonel too.
Dude was a tried-and-proven element and when he participated he was already a recently retired 3-star general, he was not a small fry player and it is hilarious how the organizers didn't expect some type of monster given that he was experienced in confronting mentally hardcore suicidal combatants appearing out of nowhere from trees and rocks.

>>14587
>one of those Mein Kampf translators with a commentary on the book that is longer than the actual book
Oh they do exist, not long ago the book was copyright free and in my country it was re-published by tons of small-time houses, it was expectedly a good seller but i was laughing at the fact the official author is the commentary writer per law because his text is longer than Hitler's due to him writing the context after the war, conveniently forgetting Weimar and such. Because such notes are "essential" the author didn't seek copyrights for it so you know it's an ideological thing lol.
Long time ago some anon made a chart about which Hitler book to buy because one without commentaries appearing at the top and foot of the page are actually not common, i forget which one is it but be assured you will be put on a list if you order it from Amazon or somewhere else with your card.
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>>14589
>why yidsrael would release a highly suss video when they knew it would be picked apart easily?
Apathy, they would be right that people will do nothing anyways, Assange videos are AI'd and doctored as hell since he was caught in the UK embassy, poor dude has been tortured or hopefully dead since long ago yet when someone asks where he is some of those videos appear.
I've edited stuff and the artifacts in Assange videos is from face masking with a texture map on top, which means someone talking and being added a mask on top digitally morphing his face movements, kinda how those George Floyd apps work but obviously more professional.
Hell, Trump had greenscreen videos and nobody said a thing, i mean nobody in the mainstream because many anons are seasoned enough to detect that.

>>14591
The main suspicious thing (or good phone post-processing software) is the depth of field in the very beginning in which we can clearly see baristafag and 'yahoo, then when he focus on his chest the depth gets thin very fast and smoothly, showing us in focus only his face and shoulders. But that can be attributed to an expensive phone (paid by US taxes anyways so i bet) or a good camera+lens which is very plausible, the depth of field is hard to get AI'd correctly and it looks very consistent there.
But it is quite thin, which means luminous lens which means burned highlights which means more processing and lost information, i bet it is just a very very recent phone with top software.
But there's stuff that i don't like, in theory his pants should be in focus but given the angle it probably means the camera (and thus sensor) is tilted.
I don't know, 2 years ago i would've said it's legit but nowadays shit is too good. Right now i would say 70/30 in favor of it being real but that fucking coffee cup is too damn sharp compared to his face and hands, it can easily be a face masking texture of a real guy with yahoo's face pasted on top along with the coffee shop brand (can't let a good ad opportunity to waste). The coffee foam behaves pretty well, i don't know for me that's the real deal.
>>14596
>The face is the wrong shape
Makes sense if the volumetric model is different from the real yahoo, didn't see that due to not seeing Bibi that much. Also a phone's lens focal length is around 24 to 35mm, that image of him suited looks like something above 135mm, in layman terms that means a geometrical perspective difference of seeing something from a FoV of 65-45 degrees to one of 12 degrees or less, without counting those might be cropped pictures and that varies a lot.
>the fluid level stays constant
I saw it very close to the brim and then getting a bit lower, perhaps the devil cannot drink piping hot coffee
>glitchy jump cuts
It does but to be completely fair that's a normal thing in CapCut/TikTok-era editing, you cut even 100ms gaps to have the nigger cattle on their toes with their attention retention
>date on the machine is wrong
I mean i see a 15/03/202X there
>pocket hand
I think it's the zipper springing back after he put his hand in there, funny how i didn't see that due to me watching the cup. Fluids are harder to AI than rigid textiles.

>Cafe is there, it was also closed
Man, it is the simplest things they screw up lol
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>which means someone talking and being added a mask on top digitally morphing his face movements
>it can easily be a face masking texture of a real guy with yahoo's face pasted on top along with the coffee shop brand (can't let a good ad opportunity to waste)
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>The coffee foam behaves pretty well, i don't know for me that's the real deal.
Fluid physics is wrong. He's waving & gesturing around with the cup, yet the surface stays relatively glued to the lip circumference's orthonormal. He should have spilled a bunch of it.
>foam
There's another thing: he had a tiny 'stache, which is magically gone the next frame.

>Makes sense if the volumetric model is different from the real yahoo
If you know enough about that, then you can pick up over a dozen differences in the face alone. The nose is the real tell. Also, the real 'yoohoo's neck is squatter and more 'gobbler-necked'.

>>14603
>(COMIC IRONY: a pooshit did him in!  :DDD )
related:
> 2, 3
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>>14605
>But that can be attributed to an expensive phone
Phones are a big problem for trying to distinguish AI fakery like this. If that video is real, and it was filmed on a phone, then there is still post-processing being applied by the phone itself. That stuff is on by default, and is bizarrely widely accepted.
On normalfag sides of the web like leddit, even the devout anti-AI crowd who call everything with an em-dash "slop" will happily eat up a real but low-quality image that has been "enhanced" with hallucinated detail. 
>The coffee foam behaves pretty well, i don't know for me that's the real deal.
The clip he highlighted does look weird, but I think it's a combination of a few things. There's the white foam in the middle, versus a darker mixed area at the edge, which will also reflect light differently as the cup moves (and there is visibly the glare of a specular reflection). The squeeze of the cup would unevenly expose more of the coffee part uncovered by the foam, too.
And the foam is also domed upwards. Convex and concave shapes are very prone to optical illusions especially when it's out-of-focus like that. 

>>14606
>He's waving & gesturing around with the cup, yet the surface stays relatively glued
It's foam. The actual liquid is below the surface you see, and that surface will deform rather than flowing. And it does spill over a little at 0:11.
>he had a tiny 'stache, which is magically gone the next frame.
This particular nitpick is just being wilfully blind. It disappeared after a very obvious cut, and the next shot has him lowering his hand from his head. He wiped it off in between.
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>The actual liquid is below the surface you see, and that surface will deform rather than flowing.
Yes, I'm familiar with lattes, fren. He should have left a trail off the counter and onto the floor with that first yoink. And foam flows, not sitting flat like a glued-down pancake.

>This particular nitpick is just being wilfully blind.
Oh there's some willful blindness going on here!  :D
>>14606
>1
Damn, way better than a year ago. Absurd, but to be fair it saves a massive chunk of change when doing small productions.
>He's waving & gesturing around with the cup
I noted that when his stomps a bit the cup also behaves accordingly, around 0:27-0:28, usually fluids in AI take a bit longer to follow those notions. 
>the surface stays relatively glued to the lip circumference
I really don't like defending jews but i would attribute that to the devil drinking a latte coffee, the foam is thick due to the milk and it stays grasped at the lip. When he first picks the cup we can even see the thickness of it as it is over the brim/lip of the cup.
Milk 'stash is considered gay innuendo in many places so i guess they edited that out.
Like anon says, in a proof of life video the least amount of editing you can do the better, editing one such video is beyond retarded in my opinion, you are giving ground to discussions like this which is not bad at all but in the higher circles i bet many politicians' assistants just shooting the shit are actually debating about the seriousness of the situation.
>then you can pick up over a dozen differences in the face alone
I've done it but nothing top-tier, the first video you posted basically makes 90% of the editors homeless in that regard.
>'yoohoo's neck
To be fair i didn't put so much attention to you-who's physique, i wanted to look at the details behind as AI usually gets good at forefront details but fucks up in the sidelines and background, to this day image generators still cannot device decent busy backgrounds, although 2 years ago they were impossible/very obviously fake.

Honestly those masking tools are so good that we have to nitpick like crazy that it makes these exercises a bit futile in the context that more obvious clues like the cafe's business conditions and the fact he doesn't even go to his own reunions is telling as much.
Funny to think some people out there might not even be real at all, just different people being in reunions and later the few available pics from said events being edited or AI'd.
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>Honestly those masking tools are so good that we have to nitpick like crazy that it makes these exercises a bit futile in the context that more obvious clues like the cafe's business conditions and the fact he doesn't even go to his own reunions is telling as much.
All true. But the (probably multiple) fake Bidups proved to the world that you don't have to actually be alive to run the USA. There's also plenty of additional anecdotal evidence surrounding this situation.
>

However what we have is a video that is purportedly a normal recording of a purportedly living Netanyahu. For now that's the direct evidentiary document we have to work with.
He's dead, bros.
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>>14612
I wouldn't be too harsh Anon. After all this entire thing could be completely-staged by the kikes. The actual dead body (but not yoohoo's), the carefully-construed deceptions about meetings (or not!), the clearly-faked "proof" video... even the retarded faggots Treasury Secretary's melty when Trump called him into an urgent emergency meeting (while the Secretary was in an interview with the press) -- ALL COULD BE FAKED.

Remember the kikes literally own Hollyjew. They are masters of deception.

>fun fact:
The kikes have imprisoned the poor pooshit sychophant. Fun times.
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>Netanyahu was not present in at least one meeting he usually chairs.
>Because he was busy making a counter propaganda video explaining why he was not present in at least one meeting he usually chairs.
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>>14604
>Venezuela got them cocky, while on paper that country represents a formidable foe in terms of the long-run of the conflict, in reality Venezuela is under a cuban/chinese/stalinist flavor of communism which means control by demoralization and subsistence which translated means most of its population is too hungry and demoralized to do anything at all, ideologically dead due to the vast inconsistencies of their leaders so it's not even a pious existence and the elite class is too corrupt to be loyal to a cause. So in practice the US only had to bribe the underlings and smash the windows to have them fold themselves. No amount of advanced weaponry and mastery of the terrain can overcome a soldier who is 0% convinced of his country or ideals. At least the Iranians are hard boiled in conflict and a somewhat consistent ideological background that has seen the degeneracy of not doing that, Venezuelans' ideological conflict had the solution that communism represented being, literally, an inflation of a little more than 800,000,000,000% (a 2000-era 1bs. = 1^17 bs. of today) and 10 million of the population gone (1/4 of the population), and that without being at war with anyone at all, with embargos coming "only" after their inflation was at 100,000%.
If it were Chavez it would've been a royal shitshow, but Maduro largely got himself hated by his own population and administration due to massive incompetence and use of dictatorial tactics to retain power. Tbh, if they took Chavez it would've left Maduro in charge, so fuck knows how quickly that situation would go to hell. But yeah, Venezuela was ready to throw Maduro overboard. And the US assumed Iran would be the same, with the decent reason that Iran's population is continually on the brink of open revolution, but Venezuela wouldn't need to redo their government from the ground up to regain autonomy, wasn't being attacked by an Israel-like power that had a direct goal of trying to balkanize them and bomb them into the stone age that made destabilizing the government feel like a terrible plan for a healthy future, didn't have a government and military that made extremely thorough preparations for decapitation strikes, and for Iran the US track record on liberating the middle east was atrocious enough to make people beyond skeptical that this would be an improvement.

Not to mention they blew up that girls' school at the start of the conflict, a much bigger mistake than they realize because that sent an instant message to the people of Iran that the US+Israel alliance regards the Iranian people as its targets and enemies as much as the government, that turning Iran into a failed state like the other middle eastern countries around them was in fact a goal, so suddenly the same people who hate the government were now largely rallying around the flag because they know for certain they can't escape the situation by removing their government.
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>>14622
>"The [ppl of Iran] hate 'this' leadership; this leadership has destroyed [their] country."
>says the literal leader who is destroying the Iranian's country
>self-referentially irony on steroids
Freudian slip?

also:
>'"BEWARE AI GOYIM!111"'
The organ that is the main originator, provider & purveyor of this so-called "AI". I fear to even try considering all the fake shite the US Govt has promulgated across the decades. It far outstrips the rest of the world combined, I'd expect.

>>14623
>locals idly strolling by within easy earshot of the massive flame's roaring...
>'THISISFINE.jpg'

Also, nice landscape panorama Strelok.
>>14624
Heh, true.
>NO HANK, YOU CAN'T CALL IN SICK 12 DAYS IN A ROW!
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>>14627
Heh. Creepy how the slowed down voice resembles that of the voice of the Nazgul from Mordor, no?  :D
>>14627
Assuming Netanyahu is kill, or irreperably damaged, what happens next? Besides the war ending.
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i just wanna say thanks for being the best place on the internets rn to discuss the slapfight without completely devolving into joo/sandnigger spam
keep it up
>>14630
The Iranians will keep bombing until moral improves.
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>>14630
Will the war actually end though? Unless all of Likud and other radicals have died or get deposed by more reasonable Israelis won't you just have a wounded leadership that will jump straight up the escalation ladder to nukes? And even if Bibi and friends are out will Trump just let this go? This is his war now as much as it is Israels, maybe more so. Trump's ego isn't something that will allow him to give in unless everyone else abandons him. And even if Trump want to dump it and move on would he be able to given the heretics in the US and in his administration that see everything to do with Israel to be explicitly prophetic in nature?
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>>14630
>>14636
During the Gaza fighting, Bibi's death would end it fairly quickly, because half the reason that lasted as long as it did was because he was trying to get away from facing those charges. But the current Iran situation is bigger than him.
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>>14636
>Will the war actually end though? 
Besides the war not* ending. My bad.
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>>14631
I'm sorry did Greenblyat just imply that he's going to start assassinating Americans for disagreeing with Israel or with Jews?

>>14635
Thought just struck me. What if Trump isn't being given the whole truth of the matter? He's not someone who likes bad news I'd wager. Everyone in his administration is pushing this for their own ulterior reason or they're just Trump sycophants or they're just trying to wait him out and are just trying to not draw the ire of Round Eye Hideyoshi. Like I doubt that anyone's reported to him
>"Sir it's looking really bad over there. To be frank we, or more properly, our allies and assets in the region are getting our asses kicked by a country that we've already bombed to hell. Sure we've done a lot of damage but it much to the same effect of kicking a fire ant's nest and then standing there while yelling at the ants to give up."
Like I would assume that guy would be fired immediately and then be facing literal Trumped up charges in a few weeks on something for throwing off the emperor's groove.
>>14618
Yeah this is just a far more indepth of my position that the Iranian people know the deal and would rather retain the devil they know than the greater satan breathing down their neck.
>>14641
> he's going to start assassinating Americans for disagreeing with Israel or with Jews?
Is that really such a surprise?
>>14641
>I'm sorry did Greenblyat just imply that he's going to start assassinating Americans for disagreeing with Israel or with Jews?
A nation that allegedly fears(ed) the Christ Jesus forcing its own people at gunpoint to die for the Synagogue of Satan is too gay for even Sodom and Gomorrah, tbh. I mean, the USA has done this many times in the past already, I am sure. But there is no attempt to cover it up this time. It will be interesting times for the USA if the threat follows through, and it ends up even accidentally killing a righteous man. Because of Isaiah 57:1:
"The righteous perisheth, and no man layeth it to heart: and merciful men are taken away, none considering that the righteous is taken away from the evil to come."
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>>14627
Another interesting question is why Netanyahu only does these influencer-looking videos instead of proper televised appearances. If it's AI that would help explain it, as there is much more reference material to work off of.

>>14641
>Thought just struck me. What if Trump isn't being given the whole truth of the matter? He's not someone who likes bad news I'd wager. Everyone in his administration is pushing this for their own ulterior reason or they're just Trump sycophants or they're just trying to wait him out and are just trying to not draw the ire of Round Eye Hideyoshi. Like I doubt that anyone's reported to him
Dude, both Tulsi Gabbard and JD Vance hate this fucking war and could go on at length about why this is a bad idea. I'm sure both of them have tried to explain the problem to Trump. Tulsi Gabbard in particular could go in extensive detail, but rumor has it she's been disinvited from most of these conversations.
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>>14645
Now that is definitely AI.
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>>14646
I don't know if it's AI or not tbh. That's why I said "ostensible." What are the indicators? I need to get better at spotting this shit.
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>>14647
No debris flying through window
Distorted/noisy sound + is off spatially
>Did you hear that boom?
before explosion. Also no, I did not hear anything.
lolphysics
I'm sure there's more
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>>14648
Oh yeah you're absolutely right. I'll up my vigilance, thanks. Maybe I should just delete the post?
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>>14649
Nah keep it
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>>14627
>Be mega Jew that spent your career building up to a war such as this.
>You die less than a month into it.
>You are unceremoniously dumped aside and replaced with an AI while everyone else moseys along like you never existed.
>And with an AI you and your people helped to create, probably.
Oh, what a wonderful war.
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>When you deal with some of these people, 
you know who you’re dealing with. High-level intellect. High — very high-IQ people.
Did he admit he is being outwited by the Iranians?
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>>14648
>gameshow
LMAO
I love to listen to zog pundits defending the idea of sacrificing americans in the islands of Hormuz.
>All Trump has to do is send 5k marines and US will control the Strait of Hormuz
Because Iran will allow US to safely navigate those waters, deploy ~5k soldiers and install equipment in the islands.
I wish I could move to lalaland.
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>>14651
Nice timeline tbh.
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>>14655
>inb4 Netanyahoo becomes the first AI president
Jews once again leading the charge on societal and technological progress.
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NO MALARKY ALLOWED!111
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>>14618
>If it were Chavez it would've been a royal shitshow
The guy had balls to upheld a certain military order but make no mistake, he had that power due to being early in the revolution, his policies are what caused the shit show after all, his show made the dollar exchange go from 1500 in 2000 to 2,100,000bs in 2008, which goes along with the self-destruction of the oil industry and completely antagonizing the few industries that weren't oil like food (Italian/Swiss interests) and tourism. 
But at first he did have the army's support, not really the cops because IIRC he re-organized the federal and state police forces due to them arresting soldiers all the time, hence the skirmishes between cops and the military police early on. Doesn't help the army elite itself is a cuban expeditionary team, so you strike the big heads and you end up with veteran lieutenants who have taken undisputable orders all their career.
The tricky thing is that the US did negotiate the old lady to stay because, legacy-wise, the actual head honcho there was the chief of the militias who was formerly the head of congress, he seems to have attempted a coup a day later but his inner circle went on as the others simply sat it down due to confusion/fear of reprisal from the US.
Initially Venezuela did expect an invasion shortly after Iraq's invasion, hence Chavez' rhetoric and asking for China/Russia/Iran's help but AFAIK from posts made by anons there the plan was partially abandoned when Obama got the seat and later the croonies of Chavez, now without him, started pillaging and double-crossing the Iranians and Chinese investors, with Iran's joint car industry (VenIrautos) being practically assaulted and stolen its wallet via venezuelan politicians, supposedly Iranians demanded immediate payment if partial and bailed, payment which rumors say was rich uranium ore from the Andes. The Chinese only demanded "commercial" bases in their big port.

Like you said, Iran has much more backlog and ideological factors to keep fighting while Venezuela really just made their own bed and live in cognitive dissonance + demoralization.

>>14627
>Ring
I was going to say possible light diffraction but that visibility jump in 0:14-0:15 is retardly obvious, like Trump said AI is very dangerous :^)
>>14630
>what happens next?
Some other Likudfag gets in and continues as planned, perhaps a nook to end things while someone else may or may not retaliate like the Norks, Pakistan if the big guy isn't a US sellout like some say or even Iran itself because their 15-days plan deadline to arm a bomb if the Ayatollah sets the prohibition aside has finished yesterday, so maybe they already have it or are at the eve of it, unless 'menei Jr. is a dummy.
>>14641
>imply that he's going to start assassinating Americans for disagreeing with Israel
Always been the case, they are just finessing the details at mainstream hearings. Francis E. Dec was a visionary, if a bit verbose.
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>>14652
I always crack up when i hear him talk normally, he really does sound like the memes
>Big chess game, a very high level chess, the highest
>And i am dealing with very smart players, these are smart people
>When you deal with some of these people you are dealing with high level intellect, very high IQ
If he was caught in the middle of some hallway i would think this is sincere praise but in his presidential office it seems to me like planned de-escalation, he's a dude who likes being praised so i would think he's doing the same because that's what he understands to soften someone up.

>There was no expert saying they were going to hit their neighbors
Didn't fucking Van Riper strike the US bases nearby when he did the challenge? he very much did take the radars so it's the same thing, what kind of nincompoops do they have in uniforms to not mention that possibility.
>And if we did know... yeah big deal we had to do what we have to do
>But... we hit them so hard like no one else has, we hit them very hard
jej

>>14657
This is getting ridiculous, the stitching in his clothing is damn good, textile simulation is tops.
Dude in background has static shoulders and the coffee cup does look suspicious now, his face is also slightly rubbery but same can be said about the "original" video. Checking AI inconsistencies is going to be hard as nails in a year or so if shit continues like this.
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>>14659
How can they deploy BACN to support Israel? Pork products aren't kosher.
Funnily enough, the E-11A is a modified Bombardier Global Express, one of the Canadian planes Trump was threatening to make the FAA decertify a couple months back.
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Morale must really high for those sailors huh?
>>14655
It's all fine. Netanyahu is just too busy with his Live, Laugh, Love tour and showing off his magic ring trick that he learned from Tom Bombadil.
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>>14658
>second pic
Damn, the kikes got sloppy with the AIslop.
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>>14660
It's a dumb shitpost but with how rapid progress has been recently in real-time speech models that can be interrupted/interrupt you while talking and naturally emote verbally to a high degree while vid related's model caused Disney to sue the Chinese (good luck lol) within hours of it going live the only true limitation modern AI video generation has aside from needing moar datacenters, moar, MOAR is some kind of hard limit with current architectures in which every model regardless of developer can't generate more than ~30 seconds of video before either crashing, sperging out or having to use first-frame workarounds that essentially restart the whole process using the last frame from the first video with noticeable transition artifacts and general inconsistencies without mitigations (like cuts and post-process editing).
This is of course ideal for short-form Tikslop ((( they ))) have been pushing for a decade and also the reason Jewlywood isn't entirely gone, though it probably will be soon enough either way. 

>>14662
>1
That has to be a joke or meme, I know Streloks used to shitpost about USN "standards" years ago but please god let the Iranians actually sink the poor carrier using a missile/drone/torpedo/mine instead of it just going up in flames by itself so the ship can at least have a warrior's death.
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>>14662
If they want to rape sandniggers, yes, they must endure the pain to get that sweet sweet reward.
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>>14662
>after a small fire that started in the ship's main laundry area
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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>>14663
That Tom is quite the rascal!
>>14617
Kind of hard to tell, but it looks like those tanks aren't as full as they can be. The 4th pic at the bottom the smaller tanks also look a emptier. Though most of tanks in that pic don't appear to be the floating top variety.
>>14627
I'll put forth the theory that he is afraid for his life and that Iran will spare no missile to bomb him to hell, so he is hiding underground and is furiously putting out videos. Even if they are seen as fake, it wouldn't prove one way or another his actual location.
>>14641
It doesn't have to be half truths. America is obliterating surface targets. Iran's conventional army, navy, and air force is obliterated. America of course doesn't learn from its own revolutionary war, when British forces quickly routed the rebels and made the situation seem dire. But America became unconventional. It took the merchant ships and turned them into pirates on the British. They pioneered guerilla warfare and sniped officers and ambushed. They convinced a 3rd party to get involved and complicate the matter. Iran is following the playbook of Vietnam and the American Colonists. America has turned to the old guard that cannot change its ways. It has been doing bombing campaigns for decades and decades. It will weaken the enemy, but not dislodge them.
Unless they fraction the Iranian guard, then nothing changes. The Kurds might be able to cause border chaos, but are not large enough in number. They could send in ISIS, but that would only prove that the US controls them and even the retarded average ISIS member should see it is better to attack Israel then Iran and question it. We could just be in for a forever bombing war in the way Israel bombs Lebanon constantly. The only thing left if no grounds troops or nukes would be to turn Iran into Yemen and cause famines and death. Iran for its part has support from Russia and China, and the Houthis seem like a backup to twist the world into bankruptcy if they could block their side too.
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>>14669
>I'll put forth the theory that he is afraid for his life and that Iran will spare no missile to bomb him to hell, so he is hiding underground and is furiously putting out videos. Even if they are seen as fake, it wouldn't prove one way or another his actual location.
That seems a real possible explanation as to why they would disseminate fake videos as "proof". At least as likely as any other. OTOH, the kike may actually be dead now. Hmm.
>>14647
The truck near the blast rotates and moves without any damage. The voices are the same deadpan "scared" voice other AI videos use. There are countless vides of AI with "Dog saves baby from TV" with the same deadpan woman voice expressing fear.
>>14670
Said "my tweet" about the literal cocksucker Bessant:
https://xcancel.com/AdameMedia/status/2032502750613803252
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>>14670
>>14672
It does not bode well for the war ending if Israel's leadership is dead. Afterall, this all started because Netanyahu was going to be jailed for corruption. It has been almost 2.5 years since the October 7th attacks, which the IDF very highly knew were happening and put the weakest units forward to be killed. Since then Israel has been in a constant state of war that prevents the liberal side of Israel from attempting to jail Netanyahu. His death would mean more chaos and potentially numbered days for his cohorts, so they would have to double down on the war to keep endless emergency powers.
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>>14665
>This is of course ideal for short-form Tikslop
In theory we should be in the golden era of short-form video content yet we are, or at least i am partially, starstruck with novelties and technology rather than very compact stories or sequences that directors tried to perfect in the advertisement wars and music video era.
The more tools we have the easier to churn bare minimum content to the point anyone can do it without knowing the basic theory. And a ton of fields are suffering that.

>>14670
>>14669
I know jews are shameless but how could they possibly justify announcing his possible death and the existence of that video life proof campaign? i know some did with "he was killed later" story but in this case it seems way too convenient.
Unless they say it was Hezbollah and use that as justification for widespread Lebanon invasion, but that seems lunacy when Iran is still flinging missiles.

>>14662
>Rumors of zogbots angry at the deployment time
>Suddenly 600 bunk beds are gone in an accidental fire at the laundry area
>Fire spread to the ventilation
>Took 30+ hours to extinguish
>Troops eat lobster and steak but sleep under the tables
How is that the top-notch uber class ship?
>>14673
It doesn't work like that. They'd need a new acting PM and they'd have to form a new coalition or resort to snap elections. Going crazy in the hopes of holding on to power will just hurt their odds of successfully forming a new coalition. At most, they can cover up his death and cite exigent circumstances afterwards to delay the process.

Also, someone should start Thread #5.
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Even with nothing gained and everything lost as an American, at least this whole debacle allows me to walk with the satisfaction that demon faced Jew snake may very well be dead and gone.

May he burn in hell forever. I hope to get to Heaven just to be able to look down into hell and hear him scream in agony. Now we just have to watch Israel get raped and pillaged by the mudslime menace and this year'll be the best in a long while, notwithstanding the oncoming hard times from the Jews trying to turn wherever they flee to into the New Israel
>>14675
>they'd have to form a new coalition or resort to snap elections
Yes, but it helps when you can postpone elections under threats of bombs and worse case with a loaded gun. Also apparently they dropped the orthodox draft bill meaning the super jews can continue to do nothing while all the lesser jews and goy die for them. They obviously are afraid that the other parties can come in and take over if the Iran war only fucks Israel economically and doesn't cause any collapse.
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>>14665
At this point I expect the elevators to become non-functional next.
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>>14678
May happen. The USS Midway was at sea for 332 says. Trump provably wants another record to his name, so the Gerald Ford stays at sea for a few more months to break the record, toilets be damned.
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Is trump okay guys?
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>>14680
>1st pic
To be fair, he never claimed that he spoke with a president who is still alive.
>>14678
>It was not enemy fire.
>Our ships are just cheaply made death traps.
>Take that, Iran!
Whew. I would have said it was enemy fire.
>>14680
"the gays" tried to murder you two years ago you fat senile retard
So Iran is striking oil fields directly now.
What are the implications ? Is that any worse than hitting rafineries ?
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>>14684
It's very bad for the environment.
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>>14684
>implications
Likely that Iran has loosened its ROE to any and all targets of importance in US-aligned countries with no survivors, or in other words shit's fucked and the oil crisis we're in now will exceed 1973 in severity no matter the diplomacy.
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Oil has been down these last days. Did Iran let boats go through the strait?
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>>14687
>Kent gives Trump the finger
Based. Rare to see.

>kike spouting lies
As expected. Personally, I'm rather offended that crypto kikes have absconded with based Celtic genes and flaunt them freely as if their own filthy rat turkic-gypsy blood could ever produce it.

>>14688
They are selectively allowing some, including their own (which are not being destroyed b/c "muh global economy").
>>14688
Its small correction. 
Only ships that can pass are
>Iranian
>Russian
>Chinese
>Indian but after bribing their way in
Everything else gets set ablaze.
Everyone thought China would be the most fucked in this scenario but the real loser is europe
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>>14690
>Everyone thought China would be the most fucked in this scenario but the real loser is europe
^

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