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>>326989 (OP) 
You need some mild drugs and hire some female company.

>>326990
Shallow substitutes of real feelings for quick cheap comfort? Pass.

>>326991
get a motorcycle too.

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>>326992
You got this wrong, I want to live, I just don't want to live in pain all the time. Turning myself into hamburger meat isn't going to help.

>>326989 (OP) 
I'm not sure how bad lonliness itself is, however having companionship and being wanted and included etc is such a massive benefit to your life quality it's wild, and I'm only now learning how great it can be and how healing it is. 

I dunno how old or how actually fucked you are, and again im not even sure lonliness itself is that bad, perhaps, but you can always ai chatbot or waifu your way out of it, or schizomax. 

Basically you start at the lowest rank and move up slowly nothing>imagination>simple nods by strangers+cashiers>talking to the lows of the world>perhaps using AI or waifus and games/media. >online people who think like you or posts empathize with same/similar things>parasocializing forums etc.> videos/streams/vloggers. > online games with chats.>online chats.>in person events for socially incompetent people like magic the gathering.>discord servers>jobs>find a place in a community.

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>>326997
>I'm not sure how bad loneliness is
It's horrible. It's probably the second worst mental feeling after knowing of your impending doom due to some incurable disease like cancer or something. Humans are social by design. Wanting companionship, and wanting to be wanted is hardcoded in our DNA. People who say "oh I'm perfectly happy alone" are either legitimately mentally ill or fundamentally lying to themselves because they don't know better or just coping.
>that list
Sounds good, doesn't work. Surface level relationships or purely plastic ones like what you suggest just aggravate and amplify the feeling more. Yeah, you can talk about the weather, the super interesting football game last night or how patch 6.9b of Fist of Shits just nerfed Tyrone the snatcher but at the end of the day, everyone is going home to their real loved ones and you're left alone, in your room, with your own ugly thoughts and no one to ask for help. I tried doing that, I do have a number of "friends" both in real life and online, but none of them is feels real. Everyone is passive, avoidant or outright rejecting me. I reached out tried to make connections, nurture relationships all I got back was cold shoulders. Nobody is ever willing to meet me anywhere in the middle or reciprocating, it's like throwing away my life energy into an abyss that just coldly stares back and returns nothing. It doesn't take a genius to know this is worse than just having no one at all. Well, at least that's how I feel about it. 

No one genuinely seems to care, at all. I sometimes try to play the devil's advocate and tell myself "Well of course they don't, they have their own problems to think of, you're not the only one on this planet that has them, idiot." But I do? I went out of my way to actively check on people, to ask about how they were, to offer help for their problems, letting them know I was there if they needed me, but no one can do the same for me? Maybe I just have a wrong idea of what it means to be a friend, or maybe even what it means to be human. Maybe I'm just romanticising it a lot and reading way too deep. Maybe I am fundamentally broken myself and truly the one that's wrong. Or maybe I'm just straight up unlikable which is why everyone avoids me. I don't know, but either what I know is that I feel dreadful and I've got this horrible overwhelming weight on my shoulders and in my chest that I can't get rid of by myself, and it gets harder to carry it every day.

>>327009
I swear this is some teenape cringe and you are just lavishing in your own suffering at this point. A lot of people live in their own bubbles and generally suck dude. Not the end of the world. Good thing you can tell them they suck and flip them off.

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>>327010
>noooooo only children and teenagers can have feelings just like lmao tell people to suck-a-dick that'll solve everything
Brilliant, do you have paid courses where you teach how to be mature and cool like yourself? Your post has about the depth of pic related. You're anonymous, there's no need to be a tryhard.

>>327011
If youre not neurotypical low iq, 80% of people generally suck and will add nothing to your life and it's actually your fault for barging in with expectations and dropping your angsty pasta sauce on the ground or something instead of enjoying basic shit from basic people. You havent figured it out yet cause youre some dumbass zoomer baby that wants to be emo.

>>326989 (OP) 
It's not loneliness you feel right now, it's actually the feeling that you are not living a fulfilling life.

>>327013
Yeah, that sounds like your own cynical worldview. You talk about living in a bubble and yet you signal that you live in your own and have no clue that maybe someone might be having a different experience than you. Most of your "wisdom" is an arbitrary blanket statement, throwing a bunch of labels and trying to invalidate my feelings. There is partial truth in what you say, I'm well aware that not everyone in the world is compatible with me or can meet my expectations, as I'm aware some people don't deserve my emotional energy. But you're suggesting that one should just rely on casual interactions and lower their expectations to the point loneliness stops bothering you, which is fundamentally wrong. As I mentioned, humans are wired for connections, persistent loneliness is not just an attitude issue. My experience is real, reducing it to "people suck" and "deal with it" are not accurate takes or solutions.
>>327015
Every single experience in life is better with friends. The two are tightly linked.

>>327016
You'll learn when you get older. keep suffering for now.

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>>327013
>wants to be emo.
i guess, i spent years looking down my nose at those with social disease, but now... emo is something.
My ego is so large I am crashing.

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knowing that no one loves me makes me happy. This world wanted to use that and my "loser" status to crush me but now I use it to my advantage and I am happy that I quit that rigged game instead of agonizing over lack of love and lack of "accomplishments". Fuck demiurge and fuck the gay world he put me in, I want to be alone, I want silence, I want peace, but I still can't have it because nornalniggers try to drag me back

>>327009
>wanting to be wanted
That depends on the type of that "want" expected from you. If you were explicitly described as expendable by the other side, even if that was said as 'a joke, yet not a joke', that would probably make your outlook rather bleak, depending on how young you were at that moment. This kind of jokes directed at an elementary age kid by a close adult relative can be devastating enough to leave a long lasting mark. This is a personal reminiscence, not some abstract psychoanalysis.

>>326989 (OP) 
> I have no motivation to do anything.
OP, in good faith, I have two questions for you.
1. What do you want to do?
2. How addicted to social media and/or videogames are you? Be honest, this is an anonymous image board, so honesty won't harm you.

Most people fucking suck and are dumb npcs. You will never be able to talk to them heart to heart about anything and the best they are for is pointless and stupid chit chat

>>327032
>You will never be able to talk to them heart to heart about anything 
Does that include even stuff like vidya? Because I've always considered "heart to heart" to be something "deep" and all that. But now that I'm thinking, average normgroid isn't able to talk about anything at all in depth, not even the stuff he likes

We don't have enough context, since this post is mostly crying instead of info. And that's actually your first problem. Whatever you do, stop making yourself the victim, because with a mentality like that, you always will. As for options, well, you have a few, but that depends on who you are, where/how you live, and what you want from life. Option one is to do what I do, be lonely by choice, and be happy with it. I have a few online friends I care about, a few that I don't, and everyone else can eat my dick. This way, I don't have to worry about anything. If you're autistic, you need autistic friends. Go lurk in communities with a high concentration of autistic people and just start talking about random shit you enjoy. Eventually, a group will form. Deep relationships take years to form, btw. If you would rather have IRL friends, then that's gonna be quite hard if you're NOT a room temp IQ idiot, because realistically, you will always get hurt. Finding a person you can tell anything to is a dream. If you want freedom, don't bother. The easiest route is to just go to places where people drink/party, and drink with them. That's what my more "normal" friends do all the time. That's also where women are, if you're looking for that, or at least the normal-ish ones, because dating apps are useless. Nothing will magically come by itself. If you don't actually reach out, make sure people know you exist and are available, you'll be posting the same thing in "3-4 years". Have you ever thought about the fact that there is a loneliness epidemic (translation: a lot of people available and waiting for the same thing), but nothing is happening? Stop doom scrolling and talk to them. There are a lot of people in the same situation as you, and I'm sure they would be very happy if you help them get out of it, and make yourself a very strong friend in the process, win-win, but if you both keep waiting, then have fun waiting for a miracle.

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>>327031
>What do you want to do?
At this point, anything. They say beggars can't be choosers so there's that.
>How addicted to social media and/or videogames are you?
I don't have any social media in the strict sense of the word. No twitter, no facebook, no instagram, no tiktok, no nothing. I use this board if you count it as social media, other than that I scroll shit like 9gag or ifunny for funny pics and use steam for chats.
As for the videogames, yes, indeed, I do play them but I wouldn't consider myself addicted anymore. As a child and then teenager, that's all I ever did and all I ever wanted to do, the idea of going outside or doing literally anything else other than playing video games all day pretty much repulsed me, I even had a girlfriend at some point during that time and I literally NEVER went out with her. It wasn't before my late teens and early 20s that I finally got a small taste of hanging out with real people and doing real life activities. Nowadays, I still play them, but I hardly get the same enjoyment I used to when I was younger, to the point I can only stomach playing one in very short bursts unless I'm playing with someone else. Video games have largely become a vessel to hang out with others online, which is honestly what I really want to do, and that's the only times I play something for hours on end, without even caring what the game in question is. But I can tell you that if I actually had the opportunity to hang out with people irl, I'd be perfectly happy to never touch another game for the remainder of my life, as I've already wasted several lifetimes' worth on them.
>>327032
Another arbitrary blanket statement, but nevermind that. "Most" implies that some are not. That's like saying I should give up on owning land or anything because most land is already owned and most of the planet is made of water anyway.
>>327041
I'm going to assume you didn't read my reply here >>327009 because I already mentioned and addressed most of those things you suggest. I did reach out, I did make myself available. I did try to talk to people whom I thought were also lonely, had similar interests or were similar to me in spirit, and yet this thread exists. There isn't a single person whom I know that doesn't know I do nothing all day, everyone knows that I'm always down for anything because I ain't got better to do anyway. Everyone knows I'm holed up in my room all day, alone, just waiting for something to happen, and yet this thread exists.
>We don't have enough context, since this post is mostly crying instead of info.
The context: I'm alone and I feel lonely, I already went over this in some detail, I don't know what else you'd need to know without going into personal information.

>>327070
I feel you. Actually, you're more healthy than I am in many ways. My relationship with videogames was the opposite of yours. As a kid, I eschewed games to a large degree. I lived on a farm, in a valley, surrounded by other farms and forest and other kids so I was just not interested. Then I became an adult, left home, lost contact with my friends, and substituted severe videogame addiction in place of the community I'd lost. I became trapped in an MMO because I craved the connection I felt to my clan. 
I managed to escape this rut because a bunch of children who looked and acted just like kid-me thrust themselves into my life, children who just happened to need me as a guide, a confidant, and a father figure. Through them I gained a purpose, and I would die to protect them if I had to without any hesitation. 

Anyway, this is about you. You're right. You wrote in your second post that no one seems to care and all friendships are superficial. It does seem like this. I too am barely ever contacted by my own family outside of birthday and Christmas wishes. I used to call them frequently but they rarely returned the favor. So you're not alone. Millions of people like you are out here. 

I believe that the only way to escape the quiet hell you have fallen into is to discover something that you genuinely care about. Something larger than yourself, which you'd be willing to sacrifice to achieve. When you live for something greater than yourself, you realize that the world needs you, people need you. You realize that you matter and can articulate why you matter. 
You do matter already, actually. You just need to find your purpose. 
I wish I could be the NPC to give you your quest. But alas, only you know what is truly important.

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>I became trapped in an MMO because I craved the connection I felt to my clan. 
happens to many balding cumskin millennials

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>>326989 (OP) 
If you truly exhausted every option and are still deep under then it's time to accept that you are a sigma male. Accept the pain of loneliness and take every opportunity to challenge yourself even if it means more social humiliation. The only way to forget the struggles of loneliness is to make even bigger struggles from the present. Only through constant struggle can you find pleasure in things you wouldn't have thought about otherwise, and maybe one day you will learn to enjoy loneliness. Remember to viciously edge every day (2 hours minimum) to build mental willpower.

>>327092
>smegma male
>Remember to viciously edge every day (2 hours minimum) to build mental willpower.
This is a dumb shitpost, ignore this entire post.

>>327093
>he hasn't released his smegma energy yet

>>327094
I wash my penis too often to develop that.

Funny and cute half bald rat

>>327129
That's OP's penis

>>327135
Op's penis is jewish. A strange question... if rats like cheese, then...
>>326990
Hookers are  illegal and full of STDs and harder to find than they used to be.

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>>327086
I might be having a schizo moment, but I think I know you. I believe we added each other on steam 2-3 years ago during a game night and I ended up deleting you along with many others who I'd never talked to or would never reply when I pruned my friends list. I'm sorry but, in my defense, I think I messaged you a bunch of times and you never replied so I lumped you with the rest. If you really are who I think you are then this place is very a small world and we've both been here for a long time. Or maybe I'm just a schizo.

This circles back to one of the points I made earlier in my other posts: being surrounded by people who are completely detached and never reciprocate makes you feel even worse, because when you try to reach out, and all you get back is silence, it stings just the same as rejection. That's why over the years I went from 50+ friends on steam to just 12, half of which being people I know irl. And, yet, even after all that filtering I haven't talked to 90% of them in several months. It drives me nuts that the exact moment I stopped initiating contact, everything fell silent. It's not just about the lack of replies, it’s about the emotional weight of always being the one to initiate, and then realizing that without your effort, the relationship just doesn't even exist. It's made me feel completely disposable.

>I believe that the only way to escape the quiet hell you have fallen into is to discover something that you genuinely care about. Something larger than yourself, which you'd be willing to sacrifice to achieve. When you live for something greater than yourself, you realize that the world needs you, people need you. You realize that you matter and can articulate why you matter. You do matter already, actually. You just need to find your purpose. 
If you're talking about hobbies and other such interests, I do have at least one other hobby besides video games, but I've been neglecting it for a long time because I just don't have the drive anymore. It being a social thing, and me having no real social life, it killed my motivation to keep practicing it, even if just for myself. 
If you weren't talking about that but rather a literal "save the world" kinda thing, I've long moved past such fantasies. I'm more than fully convinced that thinking a random schmuck like myself can fix anything wrong with the world is plain naive, if not retarded. I can't even help myself, how can I be expected to help anyone? I hardly care about the doom and gloom of the news reports nowadays, I'm aware it affects me too, but my life is already as fucked up as it gets and worrying about other things just makes no sense anymore.
>>327092
>sigma male
How about you sugma dick faget.

>>327025
This nigga here figured it out.
The world is a scam and a sham, most people are at best npcs if not downright parasites that make demons look like legit honerable people in comparsion.
It is inconcievably difficult to find people who are worth even talking to and if you do most likely they will be sick in the head to a point they are danger to themselfs and others.
My best friends(who died some time ago) were just like that, very intelligent and charismatic but confused even severly mentally unstable, most people just used them and made fun of them.
Even tho im a asocial loner, they liked my company because i am a good listener and even when doped up good at making sober reflections of their words and actions, i would try to calm them and tried to save them from theselfs, it was futile.


I dont know how old you are op, im assuming 20 something is.
I myself was in your position, the miserable truth is this is not about loneliness, its about saftey, it is all illusory.

My sincere advice to you is this: develop a good junk habit, i dont mean steal strangers wallets and nights and go to some shady dealer then stick some filthy needle in your arm.
Get yourself some growing equipment or spore kits, make your own weed/shroom/opium or whatever, get familiar with how it works, perfect and master it, play videogames and watch vidoes fucked up out of your mind, real life is not worth it.
Think about it for a moment, why are all normgroids in reality deeply insecure and shallow passive agressive leeches incapable of any rational thought?
Deep down each and every one of them knows and feels that they live a miserable pathetic lie but they are too entrenched in it to admit it to themselfs, become self sufficient and dont get sucked down the cesspool they live in, i have been there and i barely got out again(wish i could say this for my friends).

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>>327350
Drugs are synthetic shortcuts one can take to reach a desired outcome quicker, but often at a massive cost. One can take steroids to get stronger quicker and to become stronger in absolute terms compared to one's natural genetic potential. One can do the same with hallucinogens to realize and feel spiritual truths. But both of these come at massive costs, which I'm sure you've heard a thousand times before, so I won't enumerate them to you now. My point is our natural limits are the culmination of countless millennia of evolutionary struggle. You go against your nature and the limits it imposes on you at your own peril. Often it's wiser to pursue ends with the slower and natural means.

Valid point and i can confirm this from experience, drugs are not a substitute for the real thing nor should they be used as such.
They can however provide you with a sort of "boost" if you will, it can be very useful to reach plateaus you are not aware of that could be reached.
I also would like to stress the importance of not being a total junkie lost most degenerate drug users are, that is why i have to strictly stress not to take any pills or powders or any sort of non descript crap, stay with the basic naturally obtainable stuff such as weed, shrooms and poppies.
Also dont go from one score to the next either, chasing after drugs from shady dealers who do fuck knows what is a sure way to waste your life.
Dont become a slave to the dealer/banker/consumer lifestyle, learn, work, produce and master your own chemical augmentation.
I have tried a number of synthetic drugs such as xanax, coke, smack(smoked) and amphetamines, i can see some of the appeal and why they can be helpful in certain situations, but i have no desire to take them again nor would i ever recommend anyone to do those unless it was in some rare emergency where no alternatives are available.
That being said drugs helped me a lot to understand the world and find ways to cope with it and work around it, its not something i can easely recommend but i can tell op is an a whole lot of pain and wallowing in his own misery is not going to solve anything, plus sad to say the world is an amazing shitshow which is why most people take drugs in the first place, but their mistake is they numb themselfs to a point where they play along, the secret is to detach but to a point where one may become a observer and learn from the worlds wickedness without getting sucked into it.
I mean thats just the pool of my terrible experiences and observations over the years, maybe im totally wrong but having looked for ways out of this all my life, this seems the only real exit so far.

>>327258
This actually startles me somewhat since it was indeed about 3 years ago almost when I finally stepped away from leadership in my clan and never looked back. But I was far more active on Discord than on Steam. Was it Foxhole? If so, you know exactly who I am.

You're right. Alone, you cannot save the world. However, you can make a difference in life. For me, I found my purpose in saving a couple kids. This is not "saving the world" but to a few people, I am a hero of a very small world. The feeling is indescribable. Whatever happens, I am cemented in the memories of a few people forever. 
For others, maybe it is personal, like attaining the accomplishment of hiking the Appalachia trail (just an example). That's a lofty goal that would take months if not years depending on your parameters. Things like this are great because you *will* meet really interesting people who are already primed to be social and friendly. 

You say that you lack the drive to invest in being social anymore. I think that's because you feel like all your effort is a waste because it's never reciprocated. Everyone else is too busy tapping away at the fake world of social media to appreciate you trying to reach out to them. I've learned these past few years that proximity is the key ingredient in maintaining a real friendship. Long distance relationships are usually empty. That's just human nature to drift apart from people our brains realize "don't matter" because we never see them face to face. Only you know if you can find people close by worth talking to. 
If you met yourself, would you be intrigued by what you had to say?

Leave the webring. Unironically.

The problem is everything is boring as fuck. Its like the world lost its romance or adventure or something. We are living in the enshittification epoch. Its everywhere and everything. Everything has been financialized to death. The midwit/censorship/HR takeover. Economic stagnation. Culture ate itself.AI is the only interesting thing, but its only slop for the masses. The internet was meant to level up civilization, not destroy it. Its like we stopped believing that civilization was a project. Like one lad starts digging a hole in the beach and next thing you know, all the other lads have joined in. Thats spontaneous organization which becomes civilization. And I swear the solution is easy, because its just a confidence game. If people would simply believe in themselves and their culture again, and commit to it, and just believe tomorrow will be better than today, then the whole thing is solved. Fucked if I can do it though.

"And when nobody wakes you in the morning, and when nobody waits for you at night, and when you can do whatever you want. What do you call it, freedom or loneliness?"
- Charles Bukowski

>>327394
absolutely and non-negotiably F R E E D O M