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I've been on a sardine fast the last 3 days and I feel great. Basically I'll eat only once a day while eating one can of tuna (in olive oil) and 3 cans of sardines (with bones and skin) in water with one multivitamin pill and I feel fully satieted the entire day and I've already dropped 4 lbs. On top of it all, I'm fat adapted from 2 years of keto so I have a well of energy all day while working
That's good, but I would imagine you should be careful of your mercury intake.
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>>319665
Sardines have almost no mercury lol
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>>319667
From Grok: 

One standard can of tuna contains roughly 10–13 µg (micrograms) of mercury if it’s light tuna (the most common type), or about 30–35 µg if it’s albacore/white tuna. This is based on official FDA testing data. The imageboard guy’s diet (1 can tuna + 3 cans sardines daily) would deliver a total of roughly 16 µg mercury per day with light tuna—or ~39 µg/day with albacore—which exceeds the EPA’s recommended reference dose for most adults and is not advisable long-term.

Exact FDA Mercury Levels
Here are the authoritative numbers from the FDA’s monitoring program (1990–2012 data, hundreds of samples per category):

Canned light tuna (skipjack, the usual “chunk light” or “light tuna” in cans): Mean 0.126 ppm (µg/g). Median 0.077 ppm. Range: not detected up to 0.889 ppm (545 samples).
Canned albacore (white) tuna: Mean 0.350 ppm. Median 0.338 ppm. Range up to 0.853 ppm (451 samples).
Sardines (for reference, from your previous question): Mean 0.013 ppm. Median 0.010 ppm. Range up to 0.083 ppm (90 samples).

These are among the most reliable large-scale U.S. government figures. Light tuna averages about 10 times more mercury than sardines; albacore averages about 27 times more.

Typical Can Sizes and Mercury per Can
Canned fish weights refer to the drained solids (edible fish after pouring off liquid/oil):

Standard sardine can (e.g., 3.75 oz / ~106 g net weight): ~92 g drained fish → ~1.2 µg mercury per can (using the 0.013 ppm mean).
Standard tuna can (5 oz / 142 g net weight, the most common size): ~85–99 g drained fish (typically ~3–3.5 oz / 85–99 g). Using ~100 g for a realistic average:
Light tuna: ~12.6 µg mercury per can.
Albacore/white tuna: ~35 µg mercury per can.


For the described diet (1 tuna can + 3 sardine cans daily, assuming ~95–100 g fish per can):

Light tuna version: ~12.6 µg (tuna) + 3.6 µg (3× sardines) = ~16.2 µg total mercury/day.
Albacore version: ~35 µg (tuna) + 3.6 µg = ~38.6 µg total mercury/day.

Is This Safe? Comparison to Guidelines
The EPA’s reference dose (RfD) for methylmercury—the toxic form in fish—is 0.1 µg per kg of body weight per day. This is a conservative daily limit with built-in safety margins:

60 kg (132 lb) person: 6 µg/day max.
70 kg (154 lb) person: 7 µg/day max.
80 kg (176 lb) person: 8 µg/day max.

Your guy’s diet exceeds this by 2–2.7× (light tuna) or 5–6× (albacore) every single day.
The FDA/EPA joint fish advice chart classifies:

Canned light tuna as a “Best Choice” — safe at 2–3 servings per week (a serving = 4 oz / 113 g drained) for pregnant/breastfeeding people and children. General adults can have more but should vary their fish.
Canned albacore/white tuna as a “Good Choice” — limited to 1 serving per week.

Daily tuna (even light) goes well beyond these recommendations. Chronic intake at these levels raises the risk of subtle neurological or cardiovascular effects over months/years, though individual tolerance varies (body weight, genetics, overall diet, and selenium intake all matter). Sardines are excellent here—they’re very low in mercury and rich in selenium, which can help bind and reduce mercury’s effects.

Other Factors

Variability: Not every can is average. Some light tuna tests have hit near 0.9 ppm; albacore can be higher. Brands that test every fish (rare) or source carefully are better.
The diet overall: Nutritionally solid in protein, omega-3s, and (from sardines) calcium/vitamin D if bones are eaten. But the daily tuna is the weak point for mercury. Better versions: Rotate tuna with other “Best Choice” fish (salmon, sardines only, anchovies, etc.), or do tuna only 2–3×/week max.
Who should be extra cautious: Pregnant/breastfeeding people, young children, and anyone planning long-term high-fish diets. The rest of the population has more buffer, but “only tuna + sardines forever” isn’t ideal.

Bottom line: One can of light tuna has about 12–13 µg mercury on average; albacore has ~35 µg. The full daily diet the guy described delivers 16+ µg (light) or 39 µg (albacore)—well above prudent daily limits. It’s probably fine short-term for a healthy adult but not a sustainable long-term plan without rotation or monitoring. If he’s doing this, suggest he switch to all sardines (or add other low-mercury options) most days and save tuna for occasional variety. For personalized advice, a doctor or a mercury exposure calculator based on exact body weight/fish brands can help.
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>>319668
Ok, now factor children and women into it, lol because contrary to popular belief, some people need more/less than 2,000 calories a day and don't have to deal with peegnancies. Eating one can of tuna isn't going to kill me.
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>>319672
You said you've been doing it for 3 days straight and I presume you would keep going. I'm just trying to be helpful.
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>>319673
I understand but believe me I've thought of it. I've also thought about the arsenic in fish too but in the organic form it is pretty much harmless
>>319664 (OP) 
>I've been on a sardine fast the last 3 days
> I've already dropped 4 lbs

And you're still full of shit.
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>>319677
Want me to start posting my scale results?
>>319677
>>319678
Are you fucking retarded? It's water weight
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>>319678
Over a month, at least. You don't gauge your weight on less than weekly average basis.
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>>319678
Also, enjoy getting inflammation and cancer from the omega 3
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>>319679
It's not lol and even if some is, I don't carry a lot of water weight due to keto for the last 2 years.
>>319681
It's actually too much omega 6 that causes all that inflammation, moron. Seed oils cause an ingodly amount of inflammation in the body
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>>319680
Also absolute differences are meaningless, either a percentage to total body mass, or absolute weight values are required to estimate weight loss efficiency or if it is happening at all. The more of the body you have, the more it requires energy to upkeep, and the more it can fluctuate in absolute values. Typical weight loss plan is at around 1% body mass per week and naturally slows down.
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>>319682
>It's not lol and even if some is, I don't carry a lot of water weight due to keto for the last 2 years.
Yeah. I'm sure your metabolism increased twofold because you ate shitty fish, bro.

>It's actually too much omega 6 that causes all that inflammation, moron. Seed oils cause an ingodly amount of inflammation in the body
Yeah. Unlike O3 which isn't a PUFA.
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>>319664 (OP) 
sardines aren't healthy
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>>319685
>Yeah. Unlike O3 which isn't a PUFA.
It is a PUFA but the difference is it's not highly processed oils that release highly inflammatory toxins when at high heat or the linoleic acid in Omega 6 which is known to cause inflammation (lol). The western diet in the last 100 years has had an omega 6/omega 3 ratio of 20:1 when at most in human history before this that humans had was 4:1 (and that's not including the ice age where it was flipped on its head out of necessity). Just admit you you're wrong or that you love the taste of seed oils and fuck off
>Yeah. I'm sure your metabolism increased twofold because you ate shitty fish, bro.
You're the moron who honestly thinks that cutting calorie intake by less than half the recommended amount doesn't burn fat lol. Oh and btw, I'm eating over 70 grams of protein a day so I'm not losing muscle mass by having this diet either
>>319699
Sardines are very nutrient dense and much healthier than anything you can eat off of most farms/ranches and for a fraction of the price. Because news flash: the nutritional value of food crops has decreased by 38% because all the majority of farms use for fertilizer is Nitrogen, Phosphorus, and Potassium. This problem could be remedied by using compost but the jews and ultra rich do not give a fuck about our health
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>>319684
>Typical weight loss plan is at around 1% body mass per week and naturally slows down.
This is not even close to a typical weight loss plan and carbs halt fat burning because it is used as fuel instead of fat in the body
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Fat from food is far more calorie dense than carbohydrates/proteins and that is another reason why people report losing more weight on keto than any other diet: because you are consuming less weight when consuming the same amount of calories
>>319703
It literally is from pure calorie deficit at metabolic level (given sedentary lifestyle) or 500 calorie less than your workout load. More than 1.5% may not be realistic, less than 0.5% is difficult to reliably maintain without regular weight distribution checkups and diet adjustment. Diet composition effects barely matters compared to accuracy of calorie estimation in respect to weight loss (but still important for health). Main issue is with  oils - they're very nutritious and most easily underestimated. To be safe, you need to take calorie values of all ingredients before cooking and then add a margin of 10-20% for inevitable errors.
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>>319664 (OP) 
Good job man.
I had a bit of a scare of pre-diabetes right before Thanksgiving last year. I'm usually only about 15-25 pounds overweight, but I'd let it creep up to 40 pounds over last summer. 
Totally out of nowhere, I tested my BG levels on a glucose monitor at a friend's house and it was over 200 mg/dl
I didn't LOOK obese, just chunky, but my liver must've been packing on the glycogen from fructose, and I was acquiring insulin resistance.

1½ months of strict keto and fasting later, and my BGLs are normal again, and I've lost 20 pounds (since last Nov.)

Sardines... Excellent for satiety, but DAMN, you get sick of even eating pretty quickly.
My gals love''em when I open a can though.

>>319665
Mercury becomes an issue when you get into bigger and more long lived fish. Sprats don't accumulate almost any.
It's likely (you) have more Hg in your system than a thousand cans of 'deens.

Another thing to consider:
Seed oils are extremely Inflammatory.
I hit a wall 2 months in since I was still using conventional mayonnaise which is most always soybean or canola oil(RAEPSNEED)
I started making my own with Avocado oil, using a stick blender and a quart soup take out container, and got right back on track with burning off my liver FAT.

If you are the least bit overweight, you might consider splashing out for the $9 Blood glucose monitor, and $9 for 50 test strips. At the very least it's a good thing to have in your First aid chest along with a battery operated blood pressure cuff.
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>>319673
NTA
You generally don't "Sardine fast" for longer than 3-5 days due to diminishing returns. It is an extremely good bio-hack for sending you into ketosis, which in turn, if you maintain a low/no-carb diet, will facilitate you burning fat. You still need to exercise and get good sunlight. I was augmenting my meals with 10,000 IU of D3, 100IU of E, and 4-6 magnesium gummies(500-750mg Mg citrate) as well.
OMAD and 3 day water/electrolyte fasts work wonders too.

This wasn't intended to be a long term diet, at least for me, just a rehab for my insulin resistance and fatty liver. I can eat clean carbs now like homemade bread with almost no BG spike postprandially.
this thread belongs in a /fit/ somewhere, not /b/
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>>319701
>but the jews and ultra rich do not give a fuck about our health

A point of contention here;
they absolutely DO
The same chem companies that produce the AG chems that increase yield but both poison and reduce nutrient levels, often have parent companies that produce the "Palliative Cure" pharma drugs for the afflictions they created in the first place.

It doesn't take much digging to notice that 
Also, STAY THE FUCK AWAY from artificial sweeteners like SucraLOSE.(Splenda)
You have to read all labels these days, since they are jamming this genotoxin into everything now from breads to full HFCS sodas,(RIP Juggalos...eh, whatever)

Sugar alcohols aren't that bad since your body will regulate what it can take on it's own.
>Runs to bathroom clutching ass

The sheer amount of "Gastrointestinal " and "Crohn's disease" lifetime "medications" commercials attest to this more recent change in diabolical human revenue "farming"
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>>319717
Very true.
But a bit of an expose' on how fucked the "GoyFodder" system is, is appropriate for a singe thread in /b/ since it's pretty good universl info that needn't be relegated just to those concerned with fitness.
JMO
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>>319711
>soybean or canola oil(RAEPSNEED)
Something I noticed recently is processed food packaging that states something vague, like
>contains: soybean/canola/vegetable/palm/gutter oils
Can't even be bothered to explain what sort of industrial waste they're putting into their products? though it might have something to do with those massive container ships and rail lines carrying tanks marked "edible oils" that probably contain residue from all of the above and then some after enough repeated use. Like peanut allergy disclaimers for legal reasons.
>>319718
>"Gastrointestinal " and "Crohn's disease" lifetime "medications"
I've heard enough anecdotal stories from people who seemed to suffer from some mysterious Crone's like condition when eating bread from one country's supermarkets, but then miraculously go into remission after relocating and circumstance is such that they're getting bread from another country's local bakeries. Most people don't move around much or purposely switch up their diet enough to even notice. I think in the USA now most bread would have had glyphosates sprayed on both the genetically modified wheat and the animal feed tier genetically modified soy that they cut the product with... and all of that before someone fucked up the propylene glycol admixture somewhere along the way or there was a calibration issue with the plastic shrink wrap machine on the line that no one noticed adding some extra toxins into the mix for good measure.
>SucraLOSE.(Splenda)
Have also noticed aspartame and acesulfame both listed in fine print as ingredients on bottles of fruit juice that have NO ADDED SUGAR! and 100% JUICE! boldly written on the front of the label. It's a minefield out there.
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>>319850
Hadn't even thought about the container tankers.
I've been on this "Crusade" since before covid lockdowns.

Funny how most people don't even know that Donny Rumsfeld was a CEO on the board of SEARLE­ the makers of Nutrasweet™(aspartame) and rammed it through the FDA during Reagan's first term.
RINVOQ, Humera and EMBREL come to mind for the Pharma-Slide.
>Started for rhumatoid arthritis
>now for Crohn's and Ulcerative colitis
All inflammatory JAK inhibitors.
Hmmmm...
https://youtu.be/jRvLy1JaKgA

https://youtu.be/bzYetKHGEv4

I can just see these poor dupes, eating their Uber Eats Applebees Cramming handfuls of GMO french fries cooked in rancid fryer oil while washing it down with a large diet drink, then stabbing themselves in the gut with a fatty stimpack.
All the while, all they had to do was cook their own foods, use real fats and oils( ones you can get without industrial processes,) and quit HFCS and especially "DIET" or "ZER0" beverages and drink water instead.

But you are absolutely correct, It's a fucking minefield out there.
I was at a store today and just had a hunch that the potato bread hotdog buns on the reduced shelf had sucralose in them.. 
I was right.
You have to check the ingredients Every single time now, I've seen the ingredients list change 3x on the same item in a month once.
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>>319871
>Donny Rumsfeld was a CEO on the board of SEARLE­ the makers of Nutrasweet™(aspartame)
Well, Rummy was quite the clever fellow and proved himself to be very efficient at killing people on an industrial scale when he wasn't slumming it with the likes of big pharma in between more respectable gigs.
<There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know.
>potato bread hotdog buns on the reduced shelf had sucralose in them
The food industrial complex came to market that shit as duel use, serving both as a "sweetener" and a preservative.
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>>319896
>The food industrial complex came to market that shit as duel use, serving both as a "sweetener" and a preservative.
You can add to that a 3rd...As to my point, Chlorinated sucrose has been rigorously tested and determined to destroy gut flora as well as cleave the cell walls that make up the gut.
Add to that the fun metabolic trickery that happens with artificial sweeteners, (*most. Oddly saccharine is pretty damn harmless; but tastes like shit,) where Leptin and Ghrelin cycles of satiety and hunger are disrupted, making for a desire to use more of the product.

Turns out, most all of the claims that were made about safety et al, were fabricated bullshit to speedrun FDA approval.
It's all on page 3 of the PDF from the PDF in my earlier post:
>319718
>" It's not a poison, it's a FEATURE! "
It's also kind of funny that the chemist who "Discovered it" was a Jeet, "vibecoding" chemistry.
He was told to TEST it, not taste it.
Whether used as a preservative or not, it has a tertiary use for Pharma, as I pointed out before.

How many landwhales do you suppose are sucking down gallons of "Diet" drinks, and simultaneously shooting themselves up with GLP-1s and spamming GI drugs?
I'll bet it's MILLIONS.
The preservative angle seems spurious to me, like a PR tack-on to essplain why they are putting it in shit that never needed it before, like full sugar soft drinks.
They've RUINED Faygo.
I'm sure Vernors is next.
The transition from cane sugar to HFCS in the mid 80s is a big part of the cause of today's obesity and health crisis.
Turns out... Much like the AMA saying that T2D is irreversable, Their mantra of "Sugar is sugar is sugar" is bullshit too, propagated by Big AG and promulgated by the doctors and dieticians who were studying the textbooks and studies that the industry itself wrote.
>>319896
>"Sugar is sugar is sugar"
Sucralose is not sucrose. Maybe you weren't clear enough for >>319896

There were preserves for centuries, vegetables soaked in brine or vinegar from various sources, fruits boiled in honey or sugar syrup, meats preserved as confits or just put in ceramic jars, topped with lard or butter to be heated a second time. Now that's mostly outdated, mostly due to nutrition loss during boiling, but still useful for someone trying to be more self-sufficient out of necessity, for fun or to make a statement, lol. 

None were without their downsides, but without refrigeration you make do with what you have.
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>>319915
Who or what are you even quoting?
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>>319923
Why would you ask that?
>>319923
The ADA and the AMA.
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>people on this board/itt unironically defending vegetable oils
If it's put in almost all dry food items (even when it's not necessary), it can never be good for your health. The same that can be said about cramming refined sugar in almost all processed meats. There's also a reason why people think that the Japanese are "bad" at making deserts and that is because people in America/the west are used to cramming as much refined sugar in a desert as possible. The more sugar you eat, the more you'll crave and things you previously thought were sweet enough, aren't sweet anymore when you keep increasing your sugar intake. It really is like a drug
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>>319977
>a reason why people think that the Japanese are "bad" at making deserts
Double checked
My MAN!
>a reason why people think that the Japanese are "bad" at making deserts
Euros have a less sweet palate as well. They joke about their desserts being "Adult Dessert"
*(An easy way to 'member the diff between desert and dessert, is that you ALWAYS want mor dessert than desert.)

Then again...you prolly alreddy knowed that.
I ran a "secret" board /ck/ on OUrChan. It's probably still up.
Me and a Swiss anon just knocking around in there talking Haute dessert like profiteroles and cannelle
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>>319977
That, also, depends.
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>>320153
Apparently small amounts of very dark chocolate (no sugar added) is good for your microbiome in your stomach. Still not a good enough reason for me to eat it though, lol. Also, I think not being at a healthy weight should be a requirement for a dietitian. If you don't practice what you preach, why should anyone take advice from you?
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>>319664 (OP) 
>in water with one multivitamin pill
Be careful about this op. Most "multivitamin" pills are in actuality fake and are petroleum derived while only mimicking real vitamins and created in a lab. Make sure to do your research on the stuff you are buying and make sure it's naturally derived.
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>>319711
>Good job man
Thank you. My ideal weight is 160 but I don't mind if you reach 150. I was 175 this morning when I woke up. 
>1½ months of strict keto and fasting later, and my BGLs are normal again, and I've lost 20 pounds (since last Nov.)
I'm happy for you. Although I don't know for sure, I'm pretty sure I was prediabetic too because I used to have issues in blood circulation (especially the feet), but now haven't had any issues with it anymore
>Sardines... Excellent for satiety, but DAMN, you get sick of even eating pretty quickly.
For me, it completely depends on the can of fish. I tried them in olive oil and they were nasty. I also always buy the stuff that clearly sells the fastest so they aren't sitting in the can as long. I like beach cliff sardines in water the most so far. They come in a can full of water and it really milds out the flavor. I recently ate Wild Planet sardines and I really did not like them at all (although I ate the whole thing). It didn't look right to me and didn't smell right either (it smelled slightly like dirt) but it tasted ok but the texture and look of the fish was off putting. I also did not like how the EVOO tasted very cheap in it and nasty
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>>320155
The difference is it's not included in nearly all processed foods like it is in America
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>>320372
> I'm pretty sure I was prediabetic too because I used to have issues in blood circulation (especially the feet)
Could be,(same anon) a whole LOT of people who are "skinny-fat" have been storing fat in their livers due to over consumption of fructose.
That and the pure evil they are doing with food additives,pharma and AG chems.
People's bodies are REKT, but they won't see any effects until they are YEARS into it.
I don't endorse Keto as "THE" Wae, and many, many midwits are turning it into an Identity, but I do highly endorse clean foods from local farmer,(as much as is possiburu,) and eating the foods that are seasonal to your area.

Ever notice how all the most fattening foods always are most available right before Winter?
it's almost as if...

>I like beach cliff sardines in water the most so far. They come in a can full of water and it really milds out the flavor.
I'm a fan of the Chiggum o' dat SEE, lightly smoked(from Poland)
BeachCliff makes great smoked kippers though. I had some of those recently. I think most any are good, as long as they don't come from China due to the pollution and food fuckery, and I also avoid the ones in any kind of tomato or paparika, since that's often used to cover up "Slightly off " fish.

I also can't say enough how Vitamin D3 and NOT eating seed oils,(industrial process, pressed seeds are fine,) helps with not TOXO-Loading.

Homemade avocado oil mayonnaise was a game changer for me. I got lucky and found 2 liters of it at Menards for $20. I bought 3.
A stick blender, a room temp egg, a tsp. each of salt vin-nigger, and dijon mustard, and WA-LA!
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>>320380
>Homemade avocado oil mayonnaise

The trick is to slowly draw the oil up with the already emulsified shit.
you do it right and it's better than any mayo youve ever had.
t. i failed several times using COLD eggs...don't do that.
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>>320380
>I don't endorse Keto as "THE" Wae, and many, many midwits are turning it into an Identity
Well, it was the way for our ancestors so I do fully endorse it. The main reason I do is because carbohydrate rich foods are absolutely terrible for satiety and it leads to overconsumption. The body also only stores up to 1,700 calories from carbohydrates as usable energy for the day (which is only good enough if you do absolutely nothing for the day), the rest is getting stored as fat. Our ancestors were also on the Paleo diet with 22% to 40% on the high end of their calorie percentage from carbs. You know what is recommended today? What is recommended today by the apes we call dietitians is 45-65% of all caloric intake from carbohydrates. It's pretty obvious those in power are all trying to make us fat and selling the "cure" with weight loss drugs which kills your body and diet advice from dietitians that keeps people coming back and spending more money on that advice.
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>>320381
ze true modernist uses dish washing liquid as an emulsifier
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>>320385
OOOF!
that would be repulsive.
More likely they use some other DOW™ product, like Gellan gum, or soy lecithin.

*protip= it's in the CREAM

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>>320384
>Well, it was the way for our ancestors so I do fully endorse it.
not entirely.
there was a LOT of root vegetables and honey and other wilted vegetables as well.
refined anything is probably SHIT for you.
But there's nothing wrong with a Man packing on 10-15 pounds in the fall, provided he's gonna work it off by not eating as much during the Spring.
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>>320393
>not entirely.
Yes that's why I said they also did Paleo
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>>320384
>What is recommended today by the apes we call dietitians is 45-65% of all caloric intake from carbohydrates
I'm on your side Anon... Dieticians MEAN WELL but *(most) simply regurgitate the bullshit pushed by ag concerns.
>>320392
no, modernist chefs really do just use dish soap because you only need a drop of it to get the same effect but with 50x less quantity so its unnoticeable in the final product and wont affect the flavor or texture profile like alternative emulsifiers
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>>320396
>no, modernist chefs really do just use dish soap
I don't believe you.
SHOW me a recipe.
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>>320397
its not a recipe, its a technique, theres a micheline chef in the uk that thought he was hot shit using sapindus berries (literally just soap) and everyone laughed at him because everyone was already doing that trick with dish soap
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>>320398
SOunds fucking NASTY I would think that a Michelin chef would respect his ingredients way more.
I sure as Fuck, wouldn't eat a surficant.
Sounds like R*ddit poseur shit to me.
t. Have worked in a ONE STAR
Sardines are unaffordable
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>>320404
They are like $1.50 a can where I live
>>320404
If you can't afford 3 tins for $3.75+ᵗₓ
at a Dolla' Tre", you sir are shopping at a church pantry.
The great thing about a ktosis inducing diet is that your body doesn't want as much.
you can OMAD 6 eggs and 4 slices of cheese,Swiss or Havarti, from ALDI with spices and S&P for less than $1.50/day and not be hungry at all
Personally I'd add a half stick of butter,(2.89/8) for ~.36¢
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>>320408
Havarti is delicious and it's by favorite cheese but dairy drives up hunger so I recommend to keep it to a minimum
>>320340
That requires consideration if that difference shows in chemical formulas or not. What's the actual problem with using artificial vitamin C? It's simple enough to make it difficult to tamper with to make it more profitable. You should be especially careful with vitamin D, for example, it's not as straightforward in its composition. Or maybe there is something requiring explanation what's magical enough in natural/organic vitamins used in labeling.
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>>319701
Composting becomes more troublesome when scaling up. Buying NPK by tonne doesn't.
>>320433
>scaling up
In farm field area. For those who might need that.
>>320431
>You should be especially careful with vitamin D
Different anon, I'm not saying you're wrong, since I've seen D3 in a soybean oil carrier, but I thought Vitamin E was the real danger. It was the cheap Chinese isomers of mixed tocopherols used as preservatives in dog and cat foods that killed a whole bunch of pets.
The best way to get Vit E is seeds and nuts, not a gelcap.
Same likely goes for D3, from sunlight, and fatty fish, beef liver, eggs, and cheese; but due to the IOM,(Institute of Medicine,) fucking up the numbers by a whole order of magnitude, Americans have been WRONGLY told that we only need 1000IU of D3/daily for years, when in reality, it's closer to 10,000 IU in order to keep blood serum levels at optimum levels.
They were very quiet when they updated their numbers. Vit D is a crucial component of hundreds of hormonal reactions, and the same IOM determined that Doses greater than 40000 IU (1000 μg) per day are generally required before high blood calcium occurs.
Who does that benefit? 

I usually take 2 5000UI (Cholecalciferol,) with a meal every other day, less when I get lots of sun.
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>>320436
I was referring to proportions between the mixture between different similar compounds switched from one best bio-available to one that  keeps the longest in storage, generally. Not to fuckups in quantity recommended.

As for your post, this might be related, lol.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0960076015301394
Surprising, or not?
>>320439
>mixture between
*mixture carrying
>>320439
Kids can also take supplements, so some values are picked with that in mind.
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>>320439
KEK! 
NO, not surprising..
I almost posted that too, but I have a bad tendency to over-include-post
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>>320444
Trips. To be clear, it's a problem for me to judge what might be bad will and what might be indecisiveness in some regulations. Rulings by committee and so on.
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>>320450
And I suppose using enantiomers in any supplements would be clear criminal offense. Too obvious to even try for pharma industry.
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>>320450
It is for me IRL with real face to face people, but I've done so much research on the Chem/Pharma/AG and Food business and seen how much of it is tied together and solely for profit, I have a jaundiced eye. 
Not for mistakes, but for how they are "capitalized on" further down the road.
When you see back to back commercials for drugs that treat each other's side effects as the norm, Only the naive would think there isn't rampant malevolence afoot.

To be clear, I'm not calling (you) naive, but we all lived through the covid-CON, and just as it's well nigh impossiburu to understand how humanoids who lack developed pre-frontal cortexes Don't, nay CAN'T think like you do It's hard for a goodwilled person to wrap their head around shit like CEOs of corpos making the decision that they won't issue a recall or compensation for a faulty product or drug until 100K people are dead from it; Let alone even conceive that a group of people would see their product as helpful to selling MORE of their products due to the injuries the original caused.

but that's often what is going on at the top.
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>>320451
FLIPPER BABBYS 4 EVERYONE!
Chirality is a BITCH sometimes.
The back to back comercials I was referring to were a GLP-1 (Wegovy) that was followed up by a gastrointestinal medication.(Rinvoq, i think)

At this point it doesn't seem like most "Doctors" care about anything but throwing a new medication at patients. Last time I saw one,(for a tendon issue,) they ignored everything I said, and stared at a laptop which then kicked out the medications I was supposed to take.
I did not take any of them, but if I had I found out that at least one of them will KILL you if you go off it cold turkey, and when 2020s medical supply crisis was going on, one of those was nearly impossible to get.
I take ZERO medications, and hate even NSAIDs. But I will eat chelated vitamins on occasion.
Being active and eating clean, home cooked food and drinking clean RO water helps significantly.
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>>320455
Not to be snarky on purpose, but isn't your filename similar to how a republic is supposed to work?
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>>320460
cont.
Trust and verify is hard in practice, lol. For lots or reasons.
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>>320460
>Not to be snarky on purpose
It's ok, snarky isn't always bad.
But in this case there is context involved.
that was the anthem cry of all the hylic parrots who kept supporting the narrative of the Vaxx well after all the bullshit started being revealed.
I do trust science, when it is non-encumbered with either political or monetary motives,(difficult these days.) 
>how a republic is supposed to work
Yes, but we haven't had a true republic, arguably since 1860.

Possibly well before that.
>"..If you can Keep it." -Ben Franklin

The ((( money supply ))) is corrupt and usurous, the 2 party system is a farce, and we have a judicial system that is indeed NOT blind, but stacked with ((( SJW Judges ))) and their enablers, and our representatives are corrupted and commanded by AIPAC and other corporate interests, (yeah, I said it, it's NOT all the jews)

That's of course for another thread, but it IS tied into the current state of both heath and food supplies. As I think I posted earlier, Searle got Nutrasweet Rammed through the FDA by Rumsfeld in the Reagan admin, after the Carter admin balked for years; and the current Medical/Pharma/Insurance racket are also tied together and mandate it's desires onto the populace.
>Trust and verify is hard in practice, lol. For lots or reasons.
Indeed.
Perhaps that old chestnut," History is written by the winners" should be amended to: "History is written by those who own the publishing houses, and control the money."
>Echoes IMPLIED

There are still sources out there that are verifiable and honest, but you have to do some serious "Google-Fu" to find them sometimes.
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...*healthcare and food supplies...
>>320455
Now I'm wondering how different is the expected protocol for dealing with mechanical tendon damage and tendon sheath damage. I guess symptoms would be similar as long as nothing really drastic happens.
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>>320433
u could also use manure. u r jus making excuses for lazy ppl and making rich ppl more rich
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>>320433
Why aren't farmers using mexicans to do it then? Oh yeah that's right, because they aren't really even used in our agriculture. Companies instead illegally pay them less money for all the higher paying jobs
>>320527
Haha, using fresh manure is a health hazard. Can't do. Similar rules to composting.
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>>319664 (OP) 
As with any diet it, feels good for the first few days.
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>>320538
As with anything else.
>>320532
pestisides r a bigger health hazard
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>>320538
You might want to look up the keto flu and see how long it lasts and when it begins
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>>320567
Only retards have to endure this...There are ways around it.
TBH, Many of the "Keto" retards I've seen are poasting shit online, and blatantly drinking some Starcucks coffe drink with over 35 g of sugar carbs...
It's a Bio-hack of existing firmware, not a fucking lifestyle.
Fat bitches will always stupidly justify their cravings for salt fat ,(and sugar) but seldom carry out true ketosis, and almost NEVER fast for longer than a day.
t. moar than 5 days and you are wasting your time, Bio-Chemically
>>320566
I wonder what Amish Ordnung says about that.
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>>319987
I'm more inclined toward éclairs. Faithful recipes, without coconut flakes. Certainly not burger substitutes.
>>321045
And also how figurative "race to the bottom" might also fit there.
>>320466
>echoes' detection skills needed
Come on, I'd rather sic some chinks on other chinks, lol.
https://www.mdpi.com/1420-3049/29/5/1106
Or maybe that is another match-pump scheme, who knows?
>>320508
Synovial membranes of both would be affected first, I guess.
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>>321519
Anybody can look it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repetitive_strain_injury
Variety is a spice of life, lol.
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