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I recently returned to my hometown for Easter and am still here. I've had the chance to talk with neighbors and friends I haven't seen in 13 years. 
Report on the health of a random rural town:

1. The young people all left. It's boomerville now with a major exception*. So the only people from my childhood I spoke with were old people. 

2. The boomers (mostly Republicans) are more racially aware than I remember, but then, I was not racially conscious myself when I left for college. Despite this, they all preface everything with something like; "I'm not prejudiced, but..."

3. *The exception to the rule of vanishing youths is mexicans. There are spics EVERYWHERE. I went to visit a farmer I used to work for and found that the farm was sold to some other guy who doesn't even live there. Mexicans do. A LOT of Mexicans. Like, holy shit, it is a clan there. I would estimate that at least 30% of the children in my town are now Mexicans. Possibly even half. Worse, Koreans and to a lesser extent, smart niggers have bought a bunch of McMansions that now dot the pristine rolling hills of Virginia like buboes on the skin of a woman dying of plague. Plenty of White lawyers also slapped down these tumorous card board houses all over the place. Randomly. But these liberal lawyers do not have children. Only the Mexicans do.

4. LMAO @ the protestant church. It's going to shut down. When I lived here, the protestant church was among the most liberal institutions. Run by a man who loved diversity. I'll bet he is pleased with how things turned out. Not so the Catholic church, which is packed. Packed with mexicans. Fucking hell, how are there so many??

5. As Robert Putnam could have predicted, there is essentially no social activity whatsoever among the WHITE residents of boomerville. There is a pre-K daycare still going and... well, yeah... The guy who did the Christmas rides has retired. So that's gone. The church no longer does the candle light caroling. God I loved that. Maybe the Mexicans will be gracious enough to carry on this tradition for us... oh wait, no. They don't. I have asked around and all the nice things that these tolerant boomers used to get together and do here are gone. The civic association still exists. 
"I'm the youngest man who attends." ~t. 60 year old man
So in a few years, even that will be gone. 
"These people from the cities moved here and don't really interact with the community here. I don't know what happens when we move on." ~t. 70 year old farmer guy
Many if not most of the "people" moving into these McMansions will not even live here for more than 10 years. They will leave and some new invaders will come with just as much connection or contribution to the area.

6. Developers are poised like hyenas to turn my sweet rural home into a strip mall. For decades, the people of my community fought a siege against these predatory developers. And mad respect to them. They were conscious of themselves as rural people distinct from Washington DC metro area, who fought tooth and nail to keep my town from becoming a suburban sprawl. They have great pride in the community.
Yeah, but when they die, that's it. I'm sure the mexicans who live in group homes will take up the torch when the White man dies.

This concludes my rural report.

Things are bleak out here. In just 13 years, a community went from an actual paradise to a write off. My God, I may have rosy glasses, but I grew up in a town where I walked for miles, crossing yards and fields without anyone getting upset. Or raping, murdering, and eating me. Virtually zero crime. Your classic Oh we never lock our doors here type community. We NEVER locked our car. We did lock our house, but my mother was paranoid as hell. 
I used to be able to hide from my abusive parents at other people's houses. Once, for over a week. Which, btw, is highly illegal. But the community protected me. 
Now, if I were a kid and I had to do that, who would I seek shelter with? Some mexicans? Some Koreans that came here from DC? What are they even doing here? Who the hell are they? NO ONE EVEN KNOWS THEIR NAMES, yet they live right next door!

I grew up in an abusive household, yet I still consider my childhood to have been wonderful simply because the community I grew up with were kind, caring, personal, and went out of their way to help you. It was a real life rural meme society. No crime, unlocked doors, happy people... not that many children tbh which is where the problem may have arisen. Incidentally, almost no niggers. I only saw niggers at school.
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Addendum: I do not intend to blackpill. I personally am not blackpilled an neither should you be.
However, I am somewhat saddened by the destruction of my home. In a normal society, a nice community passes on a nice community to their children and grandchildren.
But this is hard to do when your grandchildren are now all wage-slaves living in pods in Washington DC while the developers spew niggers and spics and Asians in to fill the void. That and transient rich scumbags with no roots here and who will never, ever develop roots here.

I guess the moral of the story is 
1. Never, ever, ever give a single inch to developers. Never allow anyone to sell an inch of land to these spiritual kikes. Resist them to the death. If anyone decides to intentionally make their property look trashy to scare them away, defend them. You have no idea how evil developers are until you see your home town reduced to this state by them. It starts with McMansions and ends with suburban dystopia. 
2. Just be racist. See a nigger? Spit on the nigger. Spit on the Asians too. "Look, Mr. Boomer, if you want to preserve the character of your town, you need to take a stand against the 40,000 Somalians the regime is bussing in here. Yes, I know that makes you feel uncomfortable. But you need to get over this feeling and defend your land"
Found the same thing.

The older generation effectively betrayed the younger generation, who having no options simply fled.
The isolated elderly people then chose to sell living space to foreign vermin in exchange for labor, arse-wiping services. These migrant vermin worked for citizenship not wages, so only lowered wages in the region further and undermine the local workforce.

Conclusion:
Race traitors should have been shot, those who uproot the aryan youth were race traitors.
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>>9012
I wish our ancestors had done so. It's ironic that these same boomers are bitching that their lovely high trust community is dying.
But you and I suffer too. My home is just gone now, at best a shadow of what we had just 10 years ago.
So the fucking Boomers just sell their property and leave these beautiful towns in ruins. Either too expensive for their own sons to purchase property to live there, or too crime ridden to live there.
>>8942 (OP) 
yeah i feel the same, i live in a large village(the size of a small town) somewhere in europe (not going to dox myself) and while i can't really what the racial demographics were like when i was younger (i don't really go out into town very much and i'm still pretty young) but i've seen a increase in non-whites,a year or two ago for example i saw some nigger in full islamic dress( but this is still an anomaly) and my father (who is not racially minded let alone fash or NS)mentioned who he saw two women in mohammedan veils walking down the street (with kids of course) and the majority of of residents in this village are 55-85 years old boomers and there's barely any young people (probably more than your example but still not great) it also doesn't help with the fact that they are bulding some new ugly modernist "homes" that will just be bought up by rich urbanite kike-like cucks that will never step foot in them, but that's my thoughts on all this decline, but it's still much better than living in some city with niggers and muslims roaming the sprawl, but hey there is some whitepill to all this and that while i was on my walk through it i spotted a few NS stickers dotted along the path which goes through the village and the region,
the first NS stickers i've ever spotted in the wild so far in my life, so i hope to see more of them as things get worse,
but that is enough yapping for now, 
Hail Victory and Hail Hitler.
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>>9037
>the majority of of residents in this village are 55-85 years old boomers and there's barely any young people
>they are bulding some new ugly modernist "homes" that will just be bought up by rich urbanite kike-like cucks
Isn't it funny how the same people screaming about how much they want diversity are also the ones working night and day to turn every corner of the earth into identical economic zones filled with brown people?
Or how the European liberals who say how much they are superior to Americans want to turn every corner of Europe into an American style suburb with nothing left of what makes these places distinct from each other or America?
>>8942 (OP) 
Makes me want to revisit the upland south village I grew up in. I haven't been back in several years since I hate my family. Though I noticed via social media that none of my high school classmates have been particularly successful. If they went to college at all they stayed local and didn't make much money after.

Going to a state school where some of the undergrad lectures were bigger than my graduating class was certainly culture shock for me. The final straw was being forced to work on group projects with chinese international students. The jewish professors were insufferable, too. American higher education solely exists to print visas for incompetent foreigners now.

I don't know how I feel about these people who think white flight from the cities is the solution. Unless you can guarantee your kids have a way to make money after high school without assimilating to big city culture you're kind of screwing them imo. We might have to just abandon the core of society altogether and let it collapse in on itself. I certainly don't think there's any way for based people to infiltrate these institutions
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>>9061
You are right, my friend. Most non-white students do not write essays, even. They use Chatgpt to do their bloody school work, hand it into the professor, and pass with flying colors. At an even higher level than intelligent white kids because they use an AI with a higher verbal IQ than a genius European. It sucks, man.

Also, if you think this can collapse, I have even more depressing news. By the time we are outnumbered in our own countries, AI can supplant all our duties; thus, our countries will still have a living standard approaching first world despite the shitskin overload. Our racial replacement is multi-faceted, with immigrants replacing the labor, jews/jeets replacing us at the managerial side, and finally AI replacing the intellectual, technological, and scientific. We were too inventive and merciful for our own good.
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>>9061
Nick Fuentes' more lucid takes involve independently infiltrating the institutions and slowly making society better for White men.
The major problem with this plan is that we're not like jews. We can't just hire fellow White people and know that they will pull their fair share of weight. In fact, we know that many cuckolds will actively try to sabotage their own best interests or fetishize niggers. 

Unfortunately, we need genuine pro White institutions, organizations of our own to act like an axis for others to branch out into said enemy controlled institutions, or to serve as the political core of Revolutionary organizations later on.
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>>9063
>political
How many times must it be reiterated that there are no political solutions to our plight?
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>>9064
You need to learn to read the full post before responding to one word that triggers you. And for the record, politics encompasses everything. Particularly when I literally used it in the same paragraph as violent revolution.
>>9062
>AI can supplant all our duties; thus, our countries will still have a living standard approaching first world despite the shitskin overload.
I severely doubt that.
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>>9063
Institutions are so important because Whites are not a coherent group and desperately need to become one. It's not impossible to have thriving ethnostates with a small population relative to the rest of the globe, but it does require a lot more cohesion.
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One important distinction to make is to instill in your children that people want to take this from them. They get brainwashed by the media thinking their lives are bleak and meaningless because they don't live in a major metropolitan area where they eat Chinese takeout and go to nightclubs with loud dance music filled with supermodels. That shit basically doesn't exist and as someone who did move out to a major city and did all that I can tell you it's a let down and I yearn for the fields and simple quiet life of the countryside. 

Instill in them that their life is better there and make them see the beauty of it. Pepper in little things like: "You can't do this in a big city!" "Those city slickers would never let you do this!" "Y'know son, if you moved to a city you would be paying $2,000 a month to live in a room the size of your closet with crackheads outside." make them think it's bullshit and teach them to develop a community. Farm their food and trade with their friends and neighbors. Learn to love outdoor activities. There's honestly no reason for anyone to leave these areas other than a false promise of getting some corporate job where they'll make more money than they could dream of and the truth is they'll only be living paycheck to paycheck to be crammed into a little cubicle and live in a broom closet. If you're not getting any richer or more fulfilled by leaving why leave?

When the youth start to stay they can start defending their homes and driving these invaders away.
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>>9067
I do not, unfortunately.

>>9068
Niggers are not an impressive race. Yet organized, even they wield serious influence. This is especially the case due to White people abandoning identity politics. We'd be much better off as a race if we snapped out of this cuckoldry. Of course, we all know ((( who ))) is keeping us weak.
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>>9069
Interestingly, I'm facilitating just this for about 40 children.
>>9072
Niggers don't wield influence, they're just a convenient meat shield for those who do. BLM got shut down practically overnight when the niggers started talking about Palestine.
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>>9069
You're smoking crack m8. The culture in a lot of these rural villages is awful. Just as many meth heads and alcoholics out there as in the city, and the Evangelicals are even worse. Nothing out there pays more than minimum wage anyway. Once I hit 18 I ran for the hills and never looked back

I will agree the city isn't all it's cracked up to be. All the pretty girls are vapid whores and one nigger is enough to ruin an entire neighborhood
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>>9077
Nice dubs
>BLM got shut down practically overnight when the niggers started talking about Palestine.
Truthnuke, but the mind of the /pol/yp is too rotten with niggerporn to even consider kike involvement.
>>9077
It's funny how no one in any ideology takes niggers seriously. Cuckservatives don't even listen to them and have invented their own fantasy land, freedum loving nigger to simp for. Shitlibs speak over them, ignoring niggers entirely other than to use their name to attack us. And most White nationalists just think of them as powerless non-entities who can never do anything to seriously harm us, all agency being attributed to the jews.
I disagree. I view them as a serious threat. Not as rich or powerful as jews, but by far more organized and influential than we are.

Niggers ethnically cleansed hundreds if not thousands of formerly White, peaceful, nice communities over the last 60 years alone. They did this on their own through a thousand means. There is a reason why White people cannot walk through many areas that were once clean and pleasant. This is not an accident or even directed by some kike in New York, but standard tribalism and anti-White direct action. They've created a poisonous atmosphere not altogether dissimilar to the Warhammer 40k Ork fungus hive thing. It is not even a conscious thing that they do, but it is toxic to normal White people.
That's influence.
Furthermore, their political influence is extremely palpable. BLM is still around and more importantly, niggers vote as a block, in lock step. Meanwhile, White people and White people alone stupidly split our energy into many weak factions.

I am not arguing that we ignore or even diminish the overpowering influence of the jew. However, to treat our competitors as inert non-threats is not just foolish, but counter-productive.
We should point out that niggers wield power and they do because they are organized and because they think collectively, about collective interests. That is a good thing. That is where power comes from. If only White people were half as ethnocentric as niggers or jews or Asians, we would have real countries again.
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>>9077
This. Also niggers are too dumb and disorganized to truly rebel. Imaging a nigger uprising. It would last a month or two at most before infighting took over and the whole thing fell apart. Not even ideological infighting like Whites might suffer from, literally "ooga booga dis my turf nigga"
>>9089
It's true that there are some major problems out here.
Interestingly, apart from a few minor examples and general poverty, I don't remember any drug use in my community. But this may be due to me leaving as a teen. Lucky me.
But yes, my current home features a lot of drug use.

idk, we need a thorough racial cleansing of ourselves as well. Rural life should be idyllic. Striving towards an ideal society is how we get there. And the nitty gritty probably involves rounding up drug addicts and... well, maybe they can be rehabilitated.
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>>9092
I disagree. They are not organized in any way which would help them if not for the jews. 
>They vote the same
Vooting does not matter. At all. Either party elected will continue gibs and use them as a wrecking ball for any ethnocentric enclave they don't like
>They took over inner cities
Sure they can mass up in one area. But who allows them to survive in such areas? jews. They give out gibs to keep them alive. It's not as if the niggers economically dominate these areas they "control". They live on welfare instead of work and all the shop owners are East Asian, Indian, or Arabs. Also look how helpless they are against any group which is not hounded by ZOG - Jeets and Spics run them out of any neighborhood they compete for. 
>If only White people were half as ethnocentric as niggers or jews or Asians, we would have real countries again.
Sure, but that's because we're White. Niggers are not even close to the organized threat that jews and Asians are.
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>>9095
>Vooting does not matter. At all. 
Voting is downstream from ideology. If, tomorrow, 89% of Whites embraced the same kind of ethnocentrism niggers already possess, we would be in such an excellent position that we could regain power without any of the bloody civil war that is now necessary. 
> who allows them to survive in such areas? jews.
Just because jews wield the most power doesn't mean that other racially conscious enemies cannot wield power.

>Jeets and Spics run them out of any neighborhood they compete for. 
That's because they're more racially cohesive. Niggers (the ones in America) are mutts of blacks with a weak identity. But it's still strong enough to dominate White people, which is embarrassing.
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>>9096
>If, tomorrow, 89% of Whites embraced ... ethnocentrism ... we could regain power without any of the bloody civil war
Bullshit, the government is now solidly against us. We would simply be able to win the bloody civil war.
>Just because jews wield the most power doesn't mean that other racially conscious enemies cannot wield power.
I agree, but nigs are the weakest of the racially conscious groups.
>That's because they're more racially cohesive.
I disagree. It's because they're smarter. Arabs especially are viciously competitive within their in-group, but against an outgroup as stupid as blacks they win easily.
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>>9097
A civil war against what? We'd literally just be able to take power. All the cowards in Congress that aren't jews would be facing execution if they didn't switch sides. They always switch sides when the wind blows against them. No one serving jews does so from love of jews. They fear them.

>I disagree. It's because they're smarter
I dispute that. We're smarter too. Yet look at us. The single most important factor in power is organization.
1000 super smart dudes who lack cohesive organization will be obliterated by 100 niggers who act and attack as one. They can take us down one by one, 100 vs 1 at a time.
We must get organized. And we (as a race) must become self aware.
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>>9101
>They always switch sides when the wind blows against them.
And that's why they all have to die. Yes, even the "based" politicians get the rope. You simply can't trust someone so morally bankrupt as to ignore or actively enable the destruction of their own people for personal gain. Their own individual crimes against the race aside we can't afford to have people like that anywhere near the reins of power even in a judenfrei world.
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>>9104
>even the "based" politicians get the rope.
It'd be a lot easier to kill them all after we take power than before.
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>>9121
Sure, but it remains important to do so throughout. We kill them before, during and after our power grab.
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>>8942 (OP) 
To get this thread back on track, how does one build a sense of community and racial camaraderie in a time where most people don't even know their own neighbors?
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>>9122
Cool concept in theory.
All I care about is seizing power. If we can do so with as little destruction as possible, that would be best.
Sadly, we will only take power through a violent revolution. Blood will flow through the streets. The violence will probably last longer than you live. It will not be the short conflict you wish for. 

And given this, we need every advantage, every method of attack we can imagine. One of these vectors with which to attack the system is through its own laws.
You think this makes me a pacifist. You are wrong. I embrace total war and you should too. Total war is not pretending that we can win by engaging in guerrilla antics in the woods for a few years. Total war means organizing, seizing power, preparing for years if not decades before the first cohesive attacks are launched against the regime. Attacking before in random, weak lone wolf attacks will accomplish nothing. Lone wolves accomplish nothing. Only organized violence will achieve the change you and I both need.
>>9140
What I am doing, and I believe everyone else should do is to get involved with whatever local government you have, especially if it is related to children. Children, if you have them, tends to bring sane and normal people together. It seems to be the last thing that brings adults out from their fucking work life or bar dive. Any event that gets kids smiling together seems to work.

In the long term, we need real White nationalist organizations with a long term plan to run sane candidates for local governments. If they have the backing of an actual organization, they will have the manpower and money to easily unseat unfriendly politicians. Most local elections can be absolutely controlled by a small team of a few dozen people making rounds, knocking on doors, and speaking to what is left of social events... which to be fair, is mostly boomers it seems.
It would be easy to do. Most people vote based on name recognition and smiles.
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>>9140
on the internet, 4chan and now xitter are already doing it.
>>9151
>sane candidates for local governments
If you get someone sane to represent White Nationalism, the kikes will either manufacture the consensus that he is insane or the kikes will drive him insane. Likely both. You would need a motherfucker so crazy that the kikes can't drive him crazy.
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>>9094
A few people I knew from high school got addicted to meth. It was about as common as teen pregnancy, so not everywhere but certainly not unheard of either.

There was also a family in my village whose four kids all had some degree of fetal alcohol syndrome. They were pretty nice people though
>>9166
>You would need a motherfucker so crazy that the kikes can't drive him crazy.
Maybe not crazy, but certainly belligerent.
I actually think that Hammer guy is running for office somewhere, speaking of
>>9166
Democracy is easier to corrupt when large masses of people are involved. Condense the electorate into a small community of a few thousand and a relatively small team can win an election through force of will. Never forget that our ideals are popular with most White men. Even women. What's not popular yet is the irrelevant symbols and names. The swastika and the term fascist. Yet deliver our ideals in pure form without any historic baggage and most people are supportive.
>d00d just............ vote!
>d00d just............ participate in party politics!
>d00d just............ deradicalize yourself to present a friendly face!
What's next? Allow niggers and trannies to join so we can show the naysayers we're not like those other mean evil non-inclusive conservatives? Come the fuck on now.
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>>9202
The context of the discussion is getting pro-White leaders into positions of local power. Do you have a better method of getting pro-White men into positions of local power? Let's hear it.
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>>9203
Kill every kike and every shabbos goy politician (read: every politician) and install actual pro-White leaders in power instead of wasting any more time on pointless electioneering bullshit that has given us no tangible gain for the better part of a century and change. Violence is the only thing that leads to any meaningful change. But you know that, and is why you're so desperately shilling derad talking points and arguing for the same old party politics. You deserve death.
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>>9202
Yes it's surprising to me that people still push for this bullshit. This has been tried and it has been proven clearly that it doesn't work, peacecuck demonstrations are also severely innefective and just puts a target on every attendees back where the zogbots put in stingray devices that just autodox every participant. I mean at this point just being a the most "childish" light thug and prankster putting the fear into the traitor vermin would work better.

Meanwhile OP and other faggots on this site is trying to derad us Redditors, yes, redditors. 
Are discussing openly things like
>how to kîll trump, kill fascists, and crash "fascist" anything
>how to best burn teslas, 
>doxing and direct action and pranks against targets they don't like
>shitskin orks talking about how to sabotage and fuck over white people for being white
>even open source software 
Every single fucking day on the internet while glowniggers absolutely 100% DO NOT care about them. 

To all you pathetic cuck niggers out there you seriously need to get a fucking grip. 
Actual redditors are better than you, redditors are more radical than you. 
Redditors openly preach violence on their site every day and zog literally doesn't care. 
Let that sink in.  You know who you are.
Fuck off from this board until you are able to understand that.
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Now finally a few more points for you stupid fuckers who don't take this as seriously as ZOG does.
 
1. Zogbots will attack you (jan6 etc) and blame you even though they instigated on your stupid little peaceful legal protest.
2. You will still go to jail (jan6 etc) and for disagreeing in the future
3. They are itching to kill and poison us with shit like the clot shot
4. ZOG is itching to put you in jail or some kind of a gulag for disagreeing under any possible excuse
5. Jews see you as a "terrorist" for  disagreeing. 

All of these and more are rules that apply even if you're a good goy peacecuck every day of your life. It doesn't matter. Yes. It does not matter. See how they killed millions of the most peaceful white wage workers who were just trying to do their best with the fucking vax and now consider that a force that is willing to do this to 100% innocent people want to do to you.
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>>9205
>Yes it's surprising to me that people still push for this bullshit.
It's not. I've learned to assume anyone pushing that tired old bullshit is either a clueless cuckservative or a derad infiltrator, and in online spaces it's always the latter. both types of men are the enemy anyway.
>>9204
>>9205
>>9206
Fair enough, but violent revolution is simply not going to happen any time soon. There is no impetus for it at all. People are too well fed and entertained. No one save a handful have tried ANY kind of violence in the past decade of being rapidly replaced in every single White country.
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>>9208
>Doesn't get it
>>9208
No you don't get it, bro. If I roleplay really hard on the internet, a freikorps will magically pop into existence.
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>>9210
And that's why you are here shlomo
>Reality is easier to cope with if I pretend everyone who refutes my delusions is a jew
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>>9212
The fact that you're here forced to read things you don't like all day is so fucking hilarious, i would kms ages ago if i were jou
Keep waiting for the Revolution(TM). It's a good thing you didn't get involved with any pro White groups, those are all feds and action is pointless. Real men do what you did and waited for a magical uprising from isolated spergs. You totally won't die as an old man in a 30% White country.
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>>9214
You're so retarded it's funny
>>9204
>Kill every kike and every shabbos goy politician
How many have you killed so far, anon?

>>9205
> just puts a target on every attendees back
>you might be d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-doxed
If you're terrified of being doxed, you will never ever engage in revolutionary violence because the risks involved in actually fighting are far in excess of even the worst that can happen to you if doxxed.

>shitlibs discuss how to burn teslas and kill Trump, why can't we?
Well, I mean, we could discuss revolutionary ideas in round about ways. In fact, many of the threads doing so are mine. 
In fact, I am discussing this now: 
Rule 1: In order to have any hope of successful violent revolution, you need the logistics and organization to support it.

You think everyone who is trying to build the infrastructure to overthrow the regime is a cuck. Yet you are sabotaging the only efforts being made to actually overthrow the jews and in return, you give absolutely nothing and no value. You don't kill politicians, you don't blow up federal buildings, and you don't run around the woods shooting park rangers and civilian aircraft.
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Serious revolutionaries are trying to build the infrastructure to move onto violent revolution. 
Notice how the LARPers do not engage in this debate. All they do is LARP that they are revolutionaries while contributing nothing. If we serious people are cowards because we are trying to achieve concrete goals, what does that make the role playing fools who TALK about violence, yet never engage in it and have no plan to do so?
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>>9229
>>9230
Even you are not escaping the camps or rather what is in store when it comes down to it. No bugged out golem fallacies like appealing to authority or begging the question will help.

You are never getting elected and you will never have broad political appeal beyond being a presence(which isn't bad either but it's a larp considering all the saints have been lone actors).  

The burden is on you because it is PROVEN that the building approach is a faux pas to this end and it is PROVEN that these people always get arrested before anything happens at all or even a revolt just based on pure suspicion and guilt by association.
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>>9247
> it is PROVEN that the building approach is a faux pas to this end
How's LARPing that you're a revolutionary online working out? Any progress yet?

> it is PROVEN that these people always get arrested before... a revolt just based on pure suspicion and guilt by association
That is often true. It also looks really bad and it is PROVEN that this leads to greater support for the rebels. Furthermore, if there is a period of political organization, then support for pro-White ideas and organizations will grow. The problem is that we have so far failed to get serious about it. Name a single pro-White political organization that actually tried to get elected. Never been done. Maybe we should try it out at a local level. You can say it will fail but the fact is that any action is better than sitting on our thumbs waiting for "the collapse." The Mad Max fantasy will never come on its own. If it ever is to come, it must be engineered by us. Having the weapon of organization will go a long way towards making that a reality.
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>>9247
>>9248
Also, if my fate is to be thrown in camps and executed by the jews, then you should thank me since I join actual martyrs. Real war is about appealing to martyrdom to inspire future action. If I get legally elected and then arrested and executed, I will rest easy having done more for the cause than 99% ever will.
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>>9248
>>9249
You don't have to take it personally when I am pointing out that it's ironic you came with bad faith arguments to call us LARPers on this peruvian basket weaving board given that the movements you claim aren't largely a LARP but still glowniggers spend years or decades instigating and often actually succeed in getting these movementarians to "buy dynamite", "saw off a shotgun" or something equally silly. After 10 years and millions of dollars and somehow it holds up in court. 

Even though it's 100% entrapment and even though only 1 person buys 1 stick of dynamite they all get a sentence for it. 

This means all these classical movements must be peaceful and can never be revolutionary beyond social clubs. Does that mean they are bad? Maybe not but in your context you are definitely wrong.

If movements weren't a LARP in the context you brought up, they would have succeeded by now in at least one country and would actually be accustomed to handling dynamite and a sawed off shotgun without problems and it wouldn't be a big deal. But it isn't because movements are actually an innefective larp when it comes to modern revolution. Governments have billion dollar black budgets in every country on "tracking and combating hate"(read prevent you from disagreeing/attack you/entrap you and often to completely innocent people illegally for no good reason.) As unfortunate as that is it is the reality in the last decades.
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It's not like we don't have a body of evidence dating back several decades that indicates electioneering and classical political movements have achieved fuck-all. The real problem is that most people, even those who consider themselves redpilled, haven't changed their mindset that we live in nations with rule of law where the sociopolitical game has rules and they're followed; rather than the reality which is that we live under military occupation by a genocidal foreign power with the full collaboration of our morally bankrupt authorities. You can't fight the latter with pamphlets, slogans and marches, you need an underground armed resistance to defeat the occupying army.
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>>9251
There have been absolutely no successful revolutions which did not also have a public face which did
>pamphlets, slogans and marches
Because one supported the other.
>you need an underground armed resistance to defeat the occupying army.
Okay and that army grows from networks of association of men on the ground. Revolutionary forces do not spring fully formed from the ground once things get a certain level of bad.

These groups/active clubs/associations or whatever else you want to call them are ABSOLUTELY necessary. Call them a larp if you want but you cannot just wait for le collabse. It will not happen.

>>9250
>billion dollar black budgets
Okay, a bunch of loosely confederated dweebs on the internet raised $750,000 for a woman who yelled 'nigger'. Are the jews going to arrest all of them for hatespeech? What good are their sooper seecret budgets if a large number of the population can openly call for the deportation of jews and niggers? They aren't as omnipotent as you think.
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>>9250
>You don't have to take it personally 
I don't. I've seen these arguments everywhere from hundreds of people. You know as well as I do that talking about violence online achieves nothing. 
>only 1 person buys 1 stick of dynamite they all get a sentence for it. 
The problem with the (very rare btw) groups that buy dynamite is that they start out as explicitly violent organizations. Sure, they don't spell it out but it is blindingly obvious that if you create a National Socialist militia that plays around with guns in the woods, your purpose is to violently overthrow ZOG. Of fucking course members of such militias purchase dynamite from feds. Those guys are the serious members. Just not the smart members.
Patriot Front proves that you can operate as a pro-White organization without being shut down so long as you take reasonable precautions to keep spergs out of your organization.
We need more such groups. And they also need to stop backstabbing each other like pathetic highschool girls. Focus on the jews. Focus on our actual enemies, not each other.

>>9251
>You can't fight the latter with pamphlets, slogans and marches, you need an underground armed resistance to defeat the occupying army.
And if you research literally any armed resistance in history, it started out as a serious political movement first. This guy gets it >>9252
>hat army grows from networks of association of men on the ground. Revolutionary forces do not spring fully formed from the ground once things get a certain level of bad.
Wiser words, I could not have written.
>>9140
returntotheland.org

https://youtu.be/9kLRzP99QAY
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>>9494
Looks like some sort of HOA crap.
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