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I am a reseller. Half my friends are resellers. When I go to a garage sale or flea market, I know for a fact that a majority of the people picking through the junk of other people's lives like deep-ocean crabs are also resellers.
The supply market for resellers is huge. Go to Ebay and check the listings of various sellers. You'll often see they have thousands of items for sale. All of this is made possible by an ever expanding market of desperately poor people scrounging through the refuse of dying boomers and the dying middle class.
Simply put, this is economic cannibalism.

You see this everywhere. Businessmen buy up a struggling company for pennies on the dollar, sell off all its assets, walk away with millions, and leave the corpse in the hands of the slow witted stockholders. You have the crypto currency pyramid scheme. You have young men who cannot afford to own inventory so they sacrifice 80% of their earnings on dropshipping to make pennies so long as they can sustain an ever expanding customer base. Every single thing is monetized to the fucking max. We do not even need to go over the effect of immigration, which floods the declining labor market with brown scabs. The jews tax everyone to death to pay for all these orc entitlements or spend it all on Israel or on their cousins' art projects in the giant megacities.

Nothing of value is produced. The American economy is a financial speculation market. I'm poor as dirt and so is everyone I know. The GDP grows ever higher yet every time I go shopping, I hear people talk about how they can barely afford to make ends meet and afford groceries. Everyone is in crippling debt with no future and no way out.

How long can this be sustained? I hear people say that nothing will ever happen and any recession will be a nothing burger or just a slow decline. But the level of economic cannibalism is so extraordinary that it's difficult to see the market expand any further. Even organ reselling is technically a thing.

People ask when America will collapse of have a civil war. I am asking how the hell it hasn't collapsed already?
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>>4879 (OP) 
This is the "normal" state of things in a world that has been set up to be a place for the international jew to parasite at the expense of the goyim.
>Everyone is in crippling debt with no future and no way out.
This is by design, of course.
The goal of debt it NOT to be paid back, is for the debt to be eternal, impossible to be paid, so that the debtors and their offspring will be slaves for ever.
If Mussolini and Hitler didn't happen, Weimar and its consequences would have progressed on a very similar path we are on right now.
The path is, of course, complete enslavement of bodies and minds through the technogrid (vaccines, remote control, internet of bodies, CBDC)
All of this is artificially propped and kept up by the globalist jews for their exclusive gain and total dominance..
In a natural environment, value lies in work and in a ethnically and morally homogeneous nation, and wealth and prosperity naturally descend from it (and Hitler managed to achieve).
That's why the jews have turned Hitler into the supreme boogeyman and why they carefully crafted post-WW2 world to prevent the rise of such consciousness ever again..
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>>4882
How is this sustainable? Even if White people are such mindless goyim that they cannot mentally revolt, the economy must eventually collapse. Yet somehow it is still going.
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>>4885
It will be sustainable as long as goyim will not revolt for real - which I don't see happening any time soon.
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>>4887
But what about economic collapse?
There is only so much strain an economy can take.
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>>4888
People losing purchasing power is not collapse. Collapse these days would entail the population simply refusing to participate in monetary functions. 
Theoretically the chances of that would increase as the benefits of participating wane, but that would necessitate people being far more independent thinkers than they are. Most people, by design as the other anon mentioned, are educated in such a way to make any other lifestyle incomprehensible. Most would rather eat bugs and live in pods than entertain the idea of doing something as socially and mentally uncomfortable as leaving the system. Couple that with the fact that the pigs would step up arrests for vagrancy in such a scenario and you're left with only people like us as players. As in those you see active right now are probably all you will ever get.

Personally I have lost faith entirely in Whites as a whole. I believe there may be some who will survive but they will be few in number and easily over run unless the shitskins suffer even worse annihilation. I await death.
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>>4889
Then the only thing to do is to organize while we can and to carve out a small piece of the country for ourselves.
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>>4889
>Personally I have lost faith entirely in Whites as a whole. I believe there may be some who will survive but they will be few in number and easily over run unless the shitskins suffer even worse annihilation. I await death.
That had just described my opinion on the matter since 2020. Whites have been going extinct since the fucking bronze age, and even they, our braver and stronger ancestors, have not been able to stop the jews from infiltrating and subverting Egypt, Persia, or any other early White society. But we, in our arrogant narcissism, think we could while suffering from group-wide hypogonadism, all the while having more luxuries than kings and emperors could dream of. There  was never really any hope to begin with, if it makes you feel any better. We were just deluding ourselves for the past eighty years, many of us growing old and gray, still clinging to that grandiose delusion on our death beds. Simple as that. 

>>4890
Like herding cats, I am afraid. Take a look at what happens when a White man finally snaps and kills a few shitskins, kikes, or even a politician. Part of the movement, under some delusion Trump or Musk could save us, calls him a federal agent. Another half calls them a hero, a dwindling vocal minority of our own movement IMO. Then some soy boy faggot calls him a psychopath. You cannot organize this pile of shit. And if you somehow did, you would have to kill two-thirds of the movement for being degenerate cowards and pussies. Believe me, our ancestors would kill those degenerates for seditious behavior, but here we are. 

It's best to think of Jews as a sort of Great Filter in Enrico Fermi's Paradox of alien life. We never contacted alien civilizations, because like us, they were destroyed by super parasites in their own species. The evidence of this is right in our faces. Jews are Humanity's super parasite. In a depressing way, super parasites bring balance to the universe. If they did not exist, our planet would have been paved over by an advanced, galactic civilization during the Permian Period. It only takes three million years in total to colonize the entire galaxy at one percent of light's speed, a blink in the existence of our planet, let alone our star.
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>>4890
There are several groups attempting to do that right now. They don't advertise a whole lot, however.
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>>4892
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HOLY SHIT THIS JEW FAGGOT DEMORALIZATION NIGGERY IS OFF THE CHARTS
"whites are le doomed goy, th- they're just dooomd goy u cant do anythin" aaaaaaaaahahahahahhaha
KILL YOURSELF NIGGER FAGGOT KIKE, YOU WILL NEVER DEMORALIZE ANYONE EVER AGAIN
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>>4894
I think that specific poster is a bot. It hangs around every board that's on the webring and even some which are not.
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>>4895
Sorry for the V-Tumor pic but its exactly the Jewish Kikery those hook nosed faggots do, they slip in some truth and then fill it with lies.
Think of it like a burger except the patty is rancid rotten meat.
Disgusting sight, this is the most clear post yet just made to demoralize.
What even is the economy?
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>>4894
I was never demoralizing anyone. I am not stopping anyone from taking a crack at saving the White race. There's no physical law of the universe that specifically forbids the White race from being saved. I personally do not see it happening currently, unless future events change my mind. 

Personally, if the White race survives this, it won't be pretty at all. Any future White civilization that arises in the future will have no record of our society or even any societies before it. It would be like an even worse version of the Bronze Age Collapse. There would be no historical record as Whites, both individually and collectively, would be too busy fighting for their very survival in disparate enclaves to even bother with recording history. It would take centuries or even thousands of years for civilization to rebuild. Whether Whites survive or not, Western civilization will die.
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>>4888
>But what about economic collapse?

If you paid attention  the collapse, or for a better understanding, the controlled demolition of current economic landscape has been planned and set in motion by globohomos.
They speak about it openly in their gay meetings like G7, UN and Davos.
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>>4892
>Whites have been going extinct since the fucking bronze age
I have noted a general demoralization over the past couple of years.
The idea that we have been losing since the bronze age is simplistic. Firstly, I have seen the evidence and found no strong reason to believe that the population of Egypt was what we would consider White unless we're willing to include Arabs, jews, and Bedouins as White. I'm sorry but We Wuz Kangs just doesn't make much sense. The language they spoke was semitic and language tends to correlate with race/ethnos.
Secondly, the modern population shows almost no genetic evidence for appreciable European admixture. You can say that the Arabs migrated there but Arabs tend to rape native women. If the Egyptians were Irish, as I have actually seen claimed, it would show up in the genetic record. Just like there is a genetic distinction between north Indian and south Indian. 
In a more general sense, yes there were examples of Europeans going on conquests and ruling enemy races as an elite class. But in this light, it does not appear that we have significantly lost much up until the 20th century. In fact, we have gained so much territory. We gained virtually the entire north American continent, Australia, and southern Africa. Even Argentina and Chile are majority European.
Before the 20th century, we ruled the entire earth itself as an elite class. Now, there were problems caused by the abject, debauched, disgusting treason of our own elites. However, if we consider our backstabbing elites to be White, our race appeared to rule the earth for a long time.

I don't like how you have given up and constructed a narrative to absolve you of the guild for doing so. Had White men of the 16th century held this mentality, we would never have conquered the Americas, explored Africa, or built anything. They'd have just given up because it was hard.

Yes. Fight back against the jews is hard. Maybe it is hopeless. But if we do not try, we are guaranteed to fail.
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>>4893
Then I will do what I can to assist.

>>4898
At this point, I have no idea and I majored in economics.

>>4899
I doubt that but even if that were so, at least there would be no record of this degenerate age to embarrass us in the afterlife.
What we have built will show in the archaeological record for millennia, even if somehow all writing were lost. Our folklore is so dominant that we take for granted that even Asians tell stories featuring our folklore. We all take it for granted but our culture exists and it is all pervasive. Our tastes have in part become the world's tastes.
My point is that even if some event wiped out all records and writing, our culture would still influence the world as a kind of background noise. Our achievements would be distorted, but still recorded in songs, legends, and myths.

>>4900
What they talk about isn't a collapse though.
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>>4901
The Age of Exploration was almost certainly the height of White power. In hindsight it seems like we overextended. We were too nice to the populations we lorded over (colonizing and collecting resources and taxes instead of taking the land outright by force) in most cases. We also underestimated the breeding ground for jews and other opportunists that global trade would prove to be.
However I think entirely looking over the accomplishments of recent history in favor of our accomplishments in the ancient world is a mistake
>>4902
>What they talk about isn't a collapse though.
Indeed. What they circlejerk about in those Davos meetings are their hypotheses on keeping the control they currently have after the contemporary system inevitably falters. They want to have a new system (technocratic communism it would seem) ready and waiting before the fiat debtworld sees its demise.
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>>4902
>At this point, I have no idea and I majored in economics.
People eat food, right? I guess it starts with that. How many people want the old, racist America? I am one.
>>4903
>We were too nice to the populations we lorded over (colonizing and collecting resources and taxes instead of taking the land outright by force
Capitalism is to blame.
Paying for White settlement is expensive. And once you do, you now have to provide a livable wage to your subjects. Far more profitable to pay niggers beads to mine diamonds.
>They want to have a new system (technocratic communism it would seem) ready and waiting before the fiat debtworld sees its demise.
I see. That's true.
Hopefully, they're so delusional and out of touch that their ivoury tower falls to pieces when exposed to the real world.
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Remember that if the situation was truly hopeless then their propaganda would be wholly unnecessary. Never slacken, never tire, never lose courage and never despair. Anyone who blackpills and says that we're fucked no matter what, and to give up, will be beaten until morale improves. I love you, anons, even if we may not know each other. You're mine and I'm yours, and I won't give up on you so don't you dare give up on me.
>>4885
Simple
You are often too poor to afford to fight and as their end is basicslly dumb dumb evil portrayal of feudalism or technocrstic communism ie terra carta and other projects before and after

But here is a hope for you a bit
Never underestimate empty stomach and think they csn speedrun all of their scary concepts of some scifi tech because deeply they know they can do jack shit to enforce martial law with personel they have
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>>4912
Also just to be sure as grammar is a bitch
>or technocrstic 
Or the technocratic communism
>>4912
The Irish were poor too and they revolted. Though they were not so poor that they were starving. In fact, were they even poor? Sure, compared with the English standard of living, they were poor. However, Ireland was wealthier per capita in 1916 than it had been for centuries and no one was starving. The same is true for the 1960s Northern Ireland conflict.
If you'll forgive my going into a tangent on insurgencies, let's analyze a few from an economic perspective.

The Basque conflict had a similar situation. The Basque were poorer than the average Spaniard but not that poor and certainly not starving. If anything, they were doing better.
On the flip side, the Viets and Chinese who engaged in armed insurrection against the French and Kuomindang respectively were undeniably poor and arguably poorer than the previous generation. idk about starving but they were certainly impoverished. The same can be said of the Taliban/Pashtuns who fought successfully against the USSR and America. Certainly not starving but comparatively poor. Though I doubt that they were poorer than their ancestors.
With the various black insurgencies against colonial and later random dictator rule in Africa, yes, many of them were definitely poorer than their ancestors and many were in the hunger phase.
Back to Europe we have the Corsican separatists, the Greek communists, and various communist terror organizations. The Corsicans were poor, no doubt about it. But were they significantly more poor than their grandfathers? I do not believe so. The Greek communists seem to have been on average less poor than the previous generation. And of course the communist insurgents were either not poorer than their ancestors or middle class kids who wanted to be revolutionaries. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
In the middle east, yes there are many examples of impoverished Arabs engaging in terrorism, Palestinians being a great example. They lost everything. No wonder they're outraged. However, there are also examples of the opposite. Osama Bin Ladeen being middle class, Ali Al Zawahari was a doctor.

While comparative poverty is a rule for insurgencies, becoming poorer is not. Many examples exist of successful (compared to us) insurgencies taking off despite an increase in comparative living standards. Something else is to credit here.
I can think of some examples of insurgents fighting in famine conditions, but the vast majority do not. There is an argument to be made that imposing famine conditions actually harms insurgencies. After all, there was no armed resistance from Ukrainians even when the communist jews began to starve them. 
Conversely, the Romans tried the same disgusting tactic on the Goths and they revolted.

I am reminded of a lecturer on asymmetric warfare who quipped, "Insurgents fight for two reasons. Because they want to and because they can."
This seems to hold true. If a grievanced group wants to fight and they can fight, what is stopping them?
If they want to fight but cannot fight, then they have options, but armed resistance would be prohibitively costly.
And if they can fight but do not want to, then they will suffer whatever humiliations and bizarre rituals their rulers impose upon them until they find their collective backbone to fight back.
>>4892
> Whites have been going extinct since the fucking bronze age
Brother, the white population did nothing but grow for the last several centuries. We outnumbered almost everybody else just a century back.
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>>5062
If we kept having 7 gorillion kids per couple like in the good ol' days, we wouldn't be in this niggermess.
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>>5073
I'm not doomposting, btw.
>>5073
I think there is more to this problem than that.
Firstly, we should dismiss the idea that we can out breed an open border. We gotta deal with the jews.

But there's more to solving this problem than just wishing we'd have more kids. This isn't just anti-White propaganda. We have only to look at China or Korea to see an even worse birth collapse. Is feminism really worse in China than in the UK?
Thailand has a lower birthrate as Canada. Is that really due to the Thais being feminists? I've been to rural Thailand and they are less affected by feminism than rural Americans are.
Iran's birthrate is only slightly higher than the UK. It's way below replacement rates. Again, is this really the result of feminism? In Iran? Really?

Something else is afoot and I frankly do not have a clear theory as to what is causing this. My hunch is that it's more than just propaganda. I used to think that it may also be related to population. As if some sort of hormone kicks in when there are too many people for a land to be expected to sustain. But then why isn't Africa affected? Sure there are loads of open spaces in Africa but what about the urban ghettos? But then again, the White rural birthrate in America is actually HIGHER than the nigger birthrate! That is very good. 
Then I concluded that it must also be economic. It's too expensive to live, buy a house, raise a child. But apparently there is no correlation between real-estate prices and the birthrate. But maybe there are other factors.
Or it could simply be the economic system? Female literacy? Air pollution? Drugs?
Or degeneracy?
There is something seriously evil going on and it is more than just anti-White propaganda. I still believe that there is a correlation between open space and having children.
The more closely a country resembles Holy Terra from Warhammer 40k, the lower the fertility rate is.
>>5075
I don't think there is a singular metric which perfectly correlates with fertility rate. It's almost as if there is a general intuitive feeling which an individual experiences. The answer to a question: Will my children have a future for their children, even if they must fight for it?

If the judgement of that person says "no", then one would have to be evil to start a family while believing that.
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>>5078
That could very well be the case. But what is causing this feeling?
It could be fearmongering propaganda from mass media. Or it could be lived experience. Again, I believe that growing up in a highly stressful urban environment would cause one to feel that the future is bleak.
>>5075
>Something else is afoot and I frankly do not have a clear theory as to what is causing this
Nations you mentioned are a massive shitholes to be honest and since there is always the dissatisfaction with miserable socio economic situation fertile people simply skiddadle away if can and know something and what is left home is creating if any at all something called bad selection or brain drain
Shortly said left away people who are too old or dumb to do something burdening the last people who can do stuff to quit
>Africa doesnt fall into this (someone says)
Yes and no
Yes because we see the nigger hoards in europe and that doesnt need explenation.
And no because of the fact that africa is still a giant anarchistic shithole where nigs just force their way to procreate trough rape and other twisted ways 


Second theory onto this question which comes to my mind can be that there is also a racial component of managment of demographics and socio economic enviroment to keep demographics alive

 >But i said economic factors cannot also play
Houses are not issue in third world if these csn be called lime that the issue is having a full belly and means to not play the oldest song in world called
Infsnt mortality rates no food lol edition
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>>5075
It is probably mutational load.
>>5080
>Nations you mentioned are a massive shitholes
True but so is nigeria and they're pumping out kids. Meanwhile, Sweden is/was a comfy place to live and yet they aren't reproducing.
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>>5097
>True but so is nigeria and they're pumping out kids
However is nigeria stable state where they can hunt you down everywhere for being a bit away from the zionist tribute money collecting or laws or not?
How much of anarchistic hell hole it is?
How much of humanitarian aid comes there?
Csn you live there basically on DayZ videogame style?
How massive is infant mortality there?
Was it stagnating before they got resources from humanitarian aid allowing for population explosion?

I can tell its a lot different compared to sweden
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>>5111
>However is nigeria stable state
Not at all. And the infant mortality is a lot lower than it used to be.
On the subject of increasing the White birth rate, it is a cultural thing. If Whites went back to their roots as a warrior culture, we would have similar or higher birthrates than Africans, as parents would expect half or most of their male children to perish in wars.
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>>5145
Who are we supposed to war against?
Africans?
We could wipe them out with nukes.
Asians? Nukes.
Spics?
Nukes.

I'm sorry but modern technology destroys a warrior society. Winning wars = pushing buttons. The people who would suffer retaliation would be totally unrelated to the people pushing the buttons. Just random civilians also nuked by China or Iran.

Sure, you can say,
>A nuclear war meets the criteria for "half of our youth will die in war"
But I'm not sure we would want to live in that society.
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>>5146
You are retarded if you think that directing a nuclear strike is only about "pushing buttons", and that a warrior society can come solely from swinging swords around.
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 >>4879 (OP) 
Yeah, all the signs of economic collapse are in your face. I took a recent look at the online whore marketplace where any slut can advertise for free, on a whim and its remarkably glutted with amateurs. I realize that doom scrolling prostitutes late at night its a degenerate thing to do but I was waiting for the fire to die down before I went to bed and was not in control of my thoughts. I dont know what to make of this Weimar- like phenomenon. Maybe cost of living is pushing these already debased women to cross the line from giving it away for free to taking all comers. I see it as just another economic index
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>>5219
> online whore marketplace where any slut can advertise for free

I wonder (((who)) created and hosted such a website
>>4879 (OP) 
Why do you and your friends act like kikes if you hate them so much? Buying something for a dollar and selling it for two is Jewish is hell. Reselling should be illegal. It is not compatible with today's times. For example: you buy a game/movie/booik, then resell it to all your friends. That is stealing profit from the creators. It damages the point of copyrights obviously, but when it's not just digital health it's real health. If too many leech literally society falls you know. How long can it last? That depends on how many people copy kikes.
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Maybe our old friends made the new one. The old one was 'Backpage/Cracker' and it was pretty established for a long time but then Donald Trumps wifey got a bee in her bonnet about human trafiking and it got shut down. Thats the story anyhow. The new one was already a slut marketplace but it was AIDS to use. I think the new one you need to have digital ID to contact the whores, but I'm not going to try it out and confirm this, I just browse occasionally late at night when my thoughts stray into such traps. Whores disgust me and there is no way you can know if any woman you meet is not doing this behavior. Thus your options for a wife diminish to unicorns meeting in a forest.
>>5224
>Buying something for a dollar and selling it for two is Jewish is hell. Reselling should be illegal.
>stop reusing things! JUST THROW STUFF AWAY ALL THE TIME!!!!
>that's stealing profit from the creators. (largely jewish owned, globalist videogame corporations)
>MUH COPYRIGHTS!!!!
I hope this is parody.
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>>5148
Okay, so how does a warrior society in the age of drones and nukes work?
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>>5224
Intellectual Property is an oxymoron, when gay nigger communism falls copyright and patent law will fall with it.
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>>5301
Nukes aren't real.

They were just cold war psyop.
>>5303
atomic bombs have literally been dropped you fucking stupid Internet addict lemming
You can literally see the effects of radiation poisoning, which are the same in outer circle Hiroshima and Nagasaki victims as in Chernobyl/other radiation such as the demon core or workplace accidents in Nuclear facilities victims.
Guess what, cartridges aren’t real either, so fellate a sawed-off shotty and pull the trigger.
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>>5303
additionally, why would the System spend money on things that aren’t real
why do both Iran and Israel have nukes
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>>5305
STFU you drooltard. The story of those "Bombs" was only reported by Jesuit agents of the Vatican who spun a story about being witness to the heart of destruction yes miraculously ducking all ill effects dispite ground zero being the only church in japan at the time. The rest of the narrative comes solely from military intelligence.  The whole thing stinks as much as the holohoax, the moon landings and covid.
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>>5306
I dont know and I dont have to know. Dont quote me shit from the official narrative like its fukn fackt
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>>5305
Fake as 9/11
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>>5303
Uh huh. What else isn't real? Missiles? Fighter jets?
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Why do the Japanese believe that they had atomic bombs dropped on them?
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>>5323
Nukes are a psyop. This is known. Maybe if you weren’t so attached to your worldview you might be able to grasp it more easily.
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>>5324
maybe it was a dirty conventional bomb or a firebombing like in Dresden, i dont know. You want some alternative hypothesis or proof and all we got is holes in the official narrative.
>>5327
>Join me in flat earthism bullshit or I'll say you're attached to the system
That is very weak.
>>4879 (OP) 
> How does the economy even exist?
> I am asking how the hell it hasn't collapsed already?
Because people are willing to tolerate it.
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>>5516
NEETaryans just can’t stop winning
>>5318
>Nukes deployed with parachutes
>Never seen that before on any bomb
Then that man had never heared about concept of retarded bombs...
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>>5519
*Heard
Hi OP, luckily the concepts you're talking about have been studied in detail for well over a hundred years.
>Nothing of value is produced. The American economy is a financial speculation market.
It's similar throughout the other Western nations, it's a result of the economy necessarily expanding and chasing markets to exploit as the need for profit keeps going up and up and up. The ruling upper class (business owners of all stripes) will outsource its labor to cheaper sources overseas, especially the 'third world'. A similar thing even happens internally, when your bosses prey on desperate brown immigrants for cheaper labour, just like they did with the polish immigrant, like they did with the chinese immigrants. As you hinted, this is clearly a race to the bottom. It can't sustain forever. There are only so many markets to expand into before the owners of businesses must start cannibalizing their own nation. We can watch this part happening now.

The US, for example, has economic crises every few years. This is considered normal under a capitalist economy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tendency_of_the_rate_of_profit_to_fall

>Everyone is in crippling debt with no future and no way out.
No way out under liberalism. Capitalism is a broken system constantly in crisis, only being held together with threats and enslavement. And now even the blessed Whites and Jews are poor, so long as you're not in the nepotistic top 20%. Liberal capitalism doesn't work.
Fascism didn't supply a solution either. Mussolini's class collaboration (corporatism) was understandable as an idea but they should have known better. Capitalism is a mode of production, not an ideology the state can just threaten with guns. The owner class have power and they know it. So by crushing the workers movement and bringing them to the table, the Fascists removed the class struggle and handed victory to the factory owners - the state can't survive without them. Class collaboration enslaved the state to capital, similar to what you see today in the West.

Someone already posted the DIY/autarky approach. Live on a farm, grow your own stuff, etc. etc., make your own little utopia. They're not the first to try this, just ask the anarchism movement who have been obsessing over this for centuries. Communes are fragile and exist only so long as a neighboring state decides they're not worth invading. When even small countries don't stand a chance against the West invading, your little guerilla commune on the West's home terf has no chance.

The way out is collective action within the labor movement. That's how you stop white scabs joining the brown scabs. That's how you stop your bosses bringing in brown scabs at all; by uniting with other workers and threatening their profits. History shows that this works. The owning class will always try to produce a reserve army of labor, and if you misdiagnose the issue and just kill the niggers, then guess who the new slaves will be? 'All those people you know in crippling debt.'
Don't be a classcuck. You fight D&C by uniting.
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>>6334
>Fascism didn't supply a solution either.

Then how come as soon as economic system was turned from being based on exploitation to being based on LABOR the economy and society immediately and miraculously recovered and thrived under national socialism?
This is literally the sole reason WW2 was waged against European fascists: they stopped the system that allowed the international jewry to feast on European people.
The international jews from the west and from the communist east joined forces for this reason, they succeed sadly, and the result is the extreme turbocapitalist+cultural marxist hellhole we live in today.
Economy is not about usury, real estate, legalized financial gambling or toying with currencies and cryptocurrencies.
Economy is about producing goods and selling them.
The international jew slowly built a system where European whites would not allowed to produce anything (deindustrialization, globalism, delocalization) and they have recently fired the final blow by cutting the source of cheap energy to render very expensive to produce anything at all on European soil.
Your communistic blabbering has no match in reality whatsoever, the root of all evil stands in international jewry occupying the power position on top of international governing bodies as a result of the mass genocide of white people perpetrated in WW2.
White workers don't need to "unite to brown workers": they need to build a system where the jews are not able to dictate power and eliminate non white invaders without NATO faggots coming to bomb them. That is all.

Go be a nigger communist somewhere else.
>>6334
You browns are addicted to BBC and Blacked porn, fuck off back to >>>/leftypol/
>>5306
>additionally, why would the System spend money on things that aren’t real
This guy thinks money is real.
>>5075
I think it's the economic system tbh. If women can work to support themselves, they inevitably become insufferable whores. The solution is simply to ban women from the workplace, which would have the added benefit of making working tolerable again. I can't even begin to tell you how much slack I have to pick up from these bitches who get paid the same if not more than I do
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>>6530
>can't even begin to tell you how much slack I have to pick up
Why do that? I don't know a single person ever fired for playing stupid and sticking very strictly to their job description.
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>>6334
> even the blessed Whites and Jews are poor, so long as you're not in the nepotistic top 20%.
Never met a poor jew. The poorest jew I have ever met was upper middle class.
Maybe there are a few extreme outliers like some raving mad bum who claims to be jewish. 
You're obviously some stripe of communist or socialist or whatever word of the day is used to describe this.
You should reject the lies of the marxists and become a nationalist.
FACT: All labor leaders opposed immigration of non-Whites into White nations.
The reason why is, in addition to the lower IQ of non-Whites, by importing nigger-scabs into White nations, you are destroying the value of labor.
Do you support open borders? Yes or no.
If you do, you are a capitalist bootlicker, no matter what other silly notions you hold. If you support open borders, you are a capitalist.

>You fight D&C by uniting.
You cannot unite with non-Whites who hate you.
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Tariffs wouldn't even be necessary if the abundant amounts of money were shared more equitably across the whole population. But investments funds manage most assets today, the largest companies are filthy rich, the banks are united into one main carter that keeps maintaining debt slavery, and people and small businesses get less and less money.
The US income tax is more than eleven decades old now.
Courtesy of the Jews and their traitorous minions. Any company that goes public will see its shares bought in smaller packets by a full array of banks and asset management firms, all more or less following the same template so that business and trading entities rule the world instead of legitimate leaders subservient to the nations' best interests. Any country that follows the Western model, whether it's White or not, experiences the same pains: ballooning debt, decadence, aging population, lack of money for younger people. For White nations it is even worse because all of this is more or less used as an excuse to organize the slow but inevitable replacement of the indigenous White people. It's extermination at a measured pace.
The Jews and their allies, the Freemasons, have wormed their way into every single major organ of each nation and their respective government, military, culture and industry.
Whether their "Great Work" and Tikkun Olam involves a world war soon, a wholesale reduction of the population or a major global enslavement scheme,  this insidious Jewish race and anyone of power or significant influence who obeys these people in full awareness of their intent need to burn or be put on a rack and die there. No ifs, no buts, no whys. Enough is enough. Once it's started it needs to be done through and thorough.
>>6538
>Never met a poor jew. The poorest jew I have ever met was upper middle class.
>Maybe there are a few extreme outliers like some raving mad bum who claims to be jewish. 
Perhaps a terminally schizophrenic Jew who just cannot even function in society and is a burden to his family. But such a subject would be kept within the family and hardly be seen by the outer world.
I'm in the same boat here regarding my personal experience, whether they're in big cities or in the country side, Jews are never poor, they're never struggling. The poorest one I knew wasn't really culturally Jewish, not even an Ashkenaz. He was chill and had his nice house, a shiksa doing the cleaning and the food. There literally was nothing Jewish in their house. Big enough garden to build two more houses of the same size on it. Those who are closer to the Jewish community hold the best jobs, they use nepotism to shove their kin into companies and stay there while enjoying advantages which are not even necessarily put on paper. It starts with the advantage of being granted help, tuitions and better cash, holiday and travel opportunities with much more ease than what the goyim must put up with against their own HR department.
Mind you the pajeets are doing exactly the same, perhaps even more brutally. Don't even let these pigs get a foot into your company, especially not in a place above other people anywhere in an area where other pajeets are settled. If you have one above you, you'll get more next to you until you feel a pressure to go down while they rise at your expense. What the Jews took time to do, the Hindus do it a thousand times faster.
>FACT: All labor leaders opposed immigration of non-Whites into White nations.
Define "labor leader" please. It can't be CEOs who organize the immigration. It can't be the union leaders who often side with international leftists, Trotskyists in other words.
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>>8613
Labor leaders meaning labor union men such as Samuel Gompers or Dennis Kearney.
Back in the more sane days, labor unions were anti non White immigration.
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>I'm poor as dirt and so is everyone I know.
Can't relate. I'm filthy rich and so is everyone I know.
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>>8628
post p/l
I need to travel by taxi with some frequency. The reasons for that are irrelevant to this discussion, what matters is something I realized during one such trip. I chatted up the driver as usual, and at one point I asked about how the business is doing. He told me taxis are suffering an ever-worsening loss of business due to Uber and similar apps. This reminded me of how Uber has never, in all its lifetime, made a profit, always operating as a loss. Then I thought about how with a taxi all you have to do is hail it and you can always pay with cash, but with Uber the process of calling one and paying for it is almost always conducted through an app. Perhaps this is the true purpose of Uber; money is unimportant, even establishing a corporate monopoly is a secondary priority, a side benefit. The real purpose of Uber is to make it impossible to travel with cash, requiring an app that logs all your movements and financial transactions in order to move around at all. In all likelihood this is in the cards for public transporation as well, and since personal transport is going the way of the dodo, this will be an important part of the overarching plan to establish surveilance state "smart 15 minute cities". The war on cash money is real, and the noose is growing ever tighter.
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>>4882
>they carefully crafted post-WW2 world to prevent the rise of such consciousness ever again..
I'd say they failed there, but with the money they have they prop rotten politicians and obtain control over judges and armies. Do not forget how laws are given by the population far more power than they have, hence why laws influence people because we are wired in our Aryan societies to believe in the law and think it's for good, so we'd rather think that politicians are cheating the law than thinking the law is written against us. ALL politicians I see and hear squabble over minor points and never go at the source of the issue, never even offer a very ambitious new model that would put into question the very existence of those large holdings that are the key to the Jews' control over the world. They are merchants, the worst kind there is, keeping inflating prices for their own gain, sucking the juices dry off economies. These profiteers intuitively need to control all the world's resources through these companies they manage. Nobody even has the courage to say that the entire economical model is defective, or when we get there you can bet it's coming from another communist in disguise who will try to sell the Marxian fraud as the one big solution. It's that frustrating, because nobody can attack the Jews and all the complex parasitic structure they built that hinges on a lot of divisive talk points and ideological fault lines. But the parasite is clever enough this time not to kill the host. The host suffers, some organs partially fail, but the host survives long enough for this torture to keep going. Down the line I still expect the Jews to proceed through a world wide but partial absolution on national debts, to inject enough happiness and leeway into the economy.
>>9831
>operating at a loss
The Jews have so much money that they can afford that so they can attack any economical activity and bring it down, then buy the scraps for nothing. They did that through the whole 20th century to buy all newspapers and drive those that refused to bow down into the gutter. There is no effective protection against unfair pricing because it's both too vague and not applied with enough zeal. Yet it should be easy to define, all a government would need to do is take an average of the poorest and most struggling companies and that alone would already show the minimal threshold prices should be found at, never to be left to drop below that line. Then the government would pick these values and add a little extra percentage to fix the new minimum price. Then Jews also bought the advertising companies, making it hard to newspapers hostile to Jews to get money through ads when the sales revenues alone weren't high enough. In some countries, a system of subsides was put into place, which virtually forced all newspapers wishing to obtain these funds to accept any limit put in place by their respective government. The government being obviously kiked to some severe extent already.
>Perhaps this is the true purpose of Uber; money is unimportant, even establishing a corporate monopoly is a secondary priority, a side benefit.
There always are several aspects to this. Overall, the overreliance on apps is really to get us dependent on the goyphone. Then electronic money. The idea is that down the road, in many years, technology will be so miniaturized that eventually a lot of systems will be held within a device so small that it will be implanted. It will be convenient, cool, faster, all automatized. Lazy bums will love it, geek will shill that crap like it cures cancer. There have already been experiments with this and implants in the hand. The other side to this the control of all aspects of life through the companies. They do not want competition. They want absolute control, which they always get closer to year after year. You spoke of paying with cash, but you won't be able to do that anymore. You need to be traced. Electronic money will show what you bought, where, when, to whom perhaps, and more.
>>4879 (OP) 
It's all fake nonsense, especially so with the "Stock Market"
>>6532
Once you've shown a willingness to pick up extra work it becomes an expectation, especially if you're a white man. Obviously I'll never give two shits about a job again but it's taken me years of being used to overcome my guilt at acting like a nigger
What should I read to better understand the economic side of how I'm getting assraped? 
Any recs?
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>>9847
I don't think you need to read anything now. Corruption is everywhere, ((( gigacorps ))) are the Jews' tools to rule the world, national economies are ruined and drained on purpose against Whites, etc.
Why do you want to read more about what you already know?
You need to move on to the next step, the solution.
Culture, strategy, weapon making, future racial religion, you'll have a wisdom and knowledge that will be highly sought.
Should we abolish paper money and go back to the gold/silver standard? Would it be enough?
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>>9883
Abolishing paper money is a libertarian retarded wet dream. It ignores that in ancient times or even in other cultures, people use objects and materials of a fixed value to practice commerce.
The paper money is a smart system but it needs to be in good hands, and it needs not be limited to paper but needs to include coins too.
Gold and silver are too expensive today to be used as an everyday currency, there is not enough granularity in them.
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>The paper money is a smart system but it needs to be in good hands
Paper money is always a scam.

Giving everyone $1,000,000 wouldn't help anyone. Prices would just go up and everything would be the same as before.

Paper money only makes sense if you want to give the new money to a specific group of people so they have an unfair advantage. There is no legitimate use for it.

And it's not just an unfair advantage for the cartel of bankers who control the money printers. It makes everybody else poorer.

Supply and demand applies to everything including money. When they increase the money supply by 10% then the price of everything goes up by 10% because money is less scarce. That's what inflation is.

They print money out of thin air, give it to themselves and then everyone else pays higher prices as a result. That's how they are fucking you.

Putting "good" people in charge of paper money is like putting "good" people in charge of coin clipping. There is no "good" way to do fraud, it needs to be eliminated.

>Gold and silver are too expensive today
Gold and silver are not "too expensive" it is paper money that becomes more and more worthless as they print more and more of it.
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>Paper money only makes sense if you want to give the new money to a specific group of people so they have an unfair advantage. There is no legitimate use for it.
You have artificially restrained the use of paper money into a single case of unfair use that you pulled out of your hat.
>And it's not just an unfair advantage for the cartel of bankers who control the money printers. 
Hence why I said it needs to be in good hands. As long as that is true, there is no issue. For one, having the money production authority to be public, in the hands of the nation. That is the Thrid Reich did. Do you have an issue with the sound monetary principles used by the Third Reich?
>Supply and demand applies to everything including money. When they increase the money supply by 10% then the price of everything goes up by 10% because money is less scarce. That's what inflation is.
Not always if the supply is increased precisely when there is a demand of more money when, for example, production increases. It's a resource that needs to be properly managed and balanced.
>They print money out of thin air
Typical libertarian take here. Money is a tool and, yes, a tool can be produced.
>give it to themselves and then everyone else pays higher prices as a result. That's how they are fucking you.
You don't even realize that you're shooting your own foot because the issue is not of money being printed or minted as coins, but its unfair spreading.
Evil people will always find ways to scam people, even with gold, cows or salt.
>Putting "good" people in charge of paper money is like putting "good" people in charge of coin clipping. There is no "good" way to do fraud, it needs to be eliminated.
How grand, but your claim would be much more convincing if you had proven how money printing were a bad thing to begin with.
>Gold and silver are not "too expensive" it is paper money that becomes more and more worthless as they print more and more of it.
So the value of paper is arbitrary and there's no reason for gold to be so expensive? Then okay, let's say the dollar now lines up at 1:1 with gold.
Even when bills were redeemable there simply wasn't enough gold for each citizen.
Today, the USA have a reserve of 8,133 tons of gold. That's 8,133,000 kilos. If the American population is 370 million people, that would be 0.022 kilos of gold per person. Or 22 grams. Perhaps the same amount in silver. What do you want to pay with that? It's either too small for bis expenses or too much for small commodities.
Also good job. You have totally depleted the country's gold reserves in the process and it is now 100% bankrupt.
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>>9896
>You have artificially restrained the use of paper money into a single case of unfair use that you pulled out of your hat.
That's the economic system you live under right now. If you are too financially illiterate to even understand that much then you are beyond fucked.

>Hence why I said it needs to be in good hands. 
Everytime more paper money is printed it makes everybody else poorer. The very idea of paper money is a scam.

>Money is a tool and, yes, a tool can be produced.
Why can't you produce your own money then? What's the difference between you putting $1 on some green paper and a jew at the federal reserve doing it? Why can't everyone just print their own money?

>You don't even realize that you're shooting your own foot because the issue is not of money being printed or minted as coins, but its unfair spreading.
Gold is real. Banks can't create gold out of thin air and spend it. You have to do work to get more gold out of the ground.

>So the value of paper is arbitrary and there's no reason for gold to be so expensive? Then okay, let's say the dollar now lines up at 1:1 with gold.
Before the federal reserve when there was a real gold standard 1oz gold was $20. Now 1oz gold is $3400. That's how much paper money they printed out of thin air and profited from. That's how much they stole from you in the last 112 years.

>Even when bills were redeemable there simply wasn't enough gold for each citizen.
That's because they printed more paper than there was gold. Because paper money is a scam.

>Also good job. You have totally depleted the country's gold reserves in the process and it is now 100% bankrupt.
Jesus christ even marxists are not this clueless about how money works.
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>>9892
I hate to rain on everyone's parade but if your nation literally uses gold currency, you're going to suffer constant bullion crises. If you trade with a neighboring country that does not use gold, although their currency will be worth less than yours, you will end up trading gold for literally paper. Then they will have gold to sell and you'll have paper that is worthless for everything except trading back to them. 
Furthermore, you bring up coin clipping. That would instantly become a problem again the moment you bring back gold currency.
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>>9903
>I hate to rain on everyone's parade
I hate to rain on your parade but governments and central banks hoard and trade gold with each other all the time. The US dollar is still sort of the world currency for everyday trading but vaults of the Chinese or Russian central bank is not filled with worthless paper dollars. Governments already have a gold standard for their peers. The fiat standard is for slaves.

>if your nation literally uses gold currency, you're going to suffer constant bullion crises
You mean the governments and banks will pretend they have more gold than they really do and when it comes time to pay the bill then there won't be enough gold in the vaults? That's called fraud. If your biggest argument against a gold standard is that jews can't scam people anymore then what are you doing.

>If you trade with a neighboring country that does not use gold, although their currency will be worth less than yours, you will end up trading gold for literally paper
Ok I'm going to deploy a very complicated economic maxim so just make sure you are mentally prepared for this. Are you ready? Don't trade your gold for worthless paper.

>you bring up coin clipping. That would instantly become a problem again the moment you bring back gold currency.
Yeah because it's 1525 and nobody has figured out how to add ridges to coins or make portable weighing machines.
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>>9900
>That's the economic system you live under right now.
You're dodging.
>Everytime more paper money is printed it makes everybody else poorer. The very idea of paper money is a scam.
German Third Reich.
>Why can't you produce your own money then?
An individual producing a finite supply of a new currency won't get anywhere. It needs to be adopted at large and to get there, people will ask for this money to be regulated, monitored, for the sake of objective fair trade and to avoid fraud. Soon enough you will find yourself with either a local bank minting its own money or a regional authority taking care of it. Not using gold. Which is fine if it can get there. At a larger scale, it's a nation that shall do it. Money after all is a convenient tool for exchange between different types of work. But by the time you reach the banking level or regional level and enough people have considered your money legitimate, it's not just (you) producing money, it's an old fashioned corporation of some kind. If every retard made his own money, none of it would get adopted and they would die on the spot because they would have no reach and no legitimacy in that competitive environment. Only the wealthy people who could back their money with something, not necessarily gold but power, lands, industrial machines, estate, etc., would have enough might to prop their own money. You spoke of financial literacy but you don't understand the concept of a common means of exchange. A tool needs to be adopted by all the parties involved in the trade and have meaning and value. You need either regional or national authorities to regulate and administer the proper value of a currency. Even when NS Germany issued bonds when the country was on its knees, it needed this currency to be backed by industrialists.
>What's the difference between you putting $1 on some green paper and a jew at the federal reserve doing it?
The better question is why is it better to have a government working for the folk rather than having a Jewish consortium doing it. Look into Mein Kampf, Feder's works and about anyone who denounced usury and fractional reserve.
>Gold is real. Banks can't create gold out of thin air and spend it. You have to do work to get more gold out of the ground.
So what? Humans work to crate value and added value out of things that didn't exist just like that in nature. We even value ideas. But you want to limit yourself to minerals. You think it's the paper that has value instead of what you can do with it. Are you arguing that a tool that is easy to produce and convenient to use is fraudulent and only those that require digging like slaves is worthy of one's attention? That's stupid.
>Before the federal reserve when there was a real gold standard 1oz gold was $20. Now 1oz gold is $3400. That's how much paper money they printed out of thin air and profited from. That's how much they stole from you in the last 112 years.
I gave you a simple number. There is simply not enough gold today. You'd either devalue it to the point where grams can buy bread loaves but then you'd be incapable of buying anything more, or it would be so expensive that a few grams would allow you to buy much much more, but then you couldn't not cut these grams down into manageable and practical coins to buy little things. And since gold would be too scarce anyway, people would automatically revalue it as something precious, so no, you would never get a few grams allowing you to buy small goods like a bottle of shampoo, socks or canned soup.
Besides, if your country doesn't have gold, what you are going to do? Sit on your hands and beg for free shiny yellow shit, or try instead to come up with a common means of exchange that does not need to be backed by gold that you don't possess?
Look up NS Germany in the 30s.
>That's because they printed more paper than there was gold. Because paper money is a scam.
No, it's because there's simply not enough gold to be used in a large economy for all types of expenses. Even Romans had moved beyond gold, silver and salt. And then pretty much all other European nations. Or China. Etc.
>Jesus christ even marxists are not this clueless about how money works.
You have not refuted once that current gold reserves would be enough, if spread over the whole population, to buy all ranges of products in a lively economy, from small things to larger ones owned by individuals for their own use and homes. If you use gold for expensive things, and silver will be close behind, then what will you use to make all the small expenses? You think the local grocery store is going to trade baked bread or syrup for your own eggs or carrots?
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>>9905
>JP Morgan quotation
Debunked by NS Germany.
>I hate to rain on your parade but governments and central banks hoard and trade gold with each other all the time. The US dollar is still sort of the world currency for everyday trading but vaults of the Chinese or Russian central bank is not filled with worthless paper dollars.
Countries literally buy vast amounts of other nations' currencies.
And debt too. And other bonds.
The US dollar remains a currency because it's maintained with a combination of industrial might and brute force through war.
The rest of the post is quite irrelevant because we have now moved to the level of nations dealing with nations instead Muh The People needing a currency to buy pants, potatoes and tooth paste.
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>You're dodging.
You said
>You have artificially restrained the use of paper money into a single case of unfair use that you pulled out of your hat.
What am I pulling out of my hat when this is happening right now. The money in your bank is not real. Jews at the central bank print it out of thin air and give it to themselves. That's what inflation is. That's what the wealth gap is. You work 40 hours a week for fake money that they print out of nothing and then you cry about how poor you are. Wake the fuck up.

>An individual producing a finite supply of a new currency won't get anywhere.
NO. Why can't you print an existing currency like US dollars? Why can't you just go into your basement and print yourself $1,000,000 and then buy a yacht?
<What's the difference between you putting $1 on some green paper and a jew at the federal reserve doing it?

>something something fraud
So why is it fraud when I print dollars in my basement but not fraud when jews print dollars in a central bank? Paper money is fraud, it doesn't matter who controls the printer.

>why is it better to have a government working for the folk rather than having a Jewish consortium doing it. 
Paper money still has nothing to do with that. Printing new money makes everybody else poorer. It's the same as coin clipping. If you want a government working for "the folk" then tax people straight up instead of debasing the money like a jew.

>So what?
Money needs to be hard to create so people will spend effort creating value for each other instead of creating more money. Paper money is the opposite of that because whoever controls the printer doesn't need to work at all.

>There is simply not enough gold today. You'd either devalue it to the point where grams can buy bread loaves but then you'd be incapable of buying anything more, 
Do you think a gold standard means buying bread with literal gold coins?

>if your country doesn't have gold, what you are going to do?
All countries have gold. It has been used as money for 1000s of years and still is between bankers and governments who understand that paper money is a scam.

>Look up NS Germany in the 30s.
tl;dr Hitler scammed his own people by getting them to preorder cars and then spent the money on tanks instead, enters one (1) war and gets his shit kicked in by commies with 19th century rifles. If you wanted to make a different point about NS Germany then say it directly

>Even Romans had moved beyond gold, silver and salt. 
And then their empire collapsed.

>And then pretty much all other European nations
And how is europe doing? Every modern country is on the brink of economic collapse because of fiat money you retard. Your great grandfather bought a house on a single working class income and you will never own a house. That's because your great grandfather lived under a gold standard and you live under a fiat standard.

>You have not refuted once that current gold reserves would be enough
That's because you don't understand what a gold standard is. You don't need to buy bread with a physical gold atoms to have money backed by gold.

>>9911
>Debunked by NS Germany.
>Debunked
Go back to reddit.

>NS Germany
It's easy to prop up a fake economy for a short amount of time with fiat money. That's what the US did in the roaring 20s. Fiat money is the economic equivalent of energy drinks. You get a boost now and then a crash later. If you try to drink another energy drink before the crash your economy becomes a rollercoaster of endless booms and busts i.e. the US economy for the last 50 years. The fact that NS Germany didn't survive long enough to suffer their first crash doesn't disprove what happened to every other nation and empire that adopted unbacked paper money.

>Countries literally buy vast amounts of other nations' currencies.
The only way to settle an international debt is with gold. Central banks are buying up gold faster than ever because the US dollar is teetering on the edge of collapse. That's why gold has gone up so much in the past few years.

>The rest of the post is quite irrelevant because we have now moved to the level of nations dealing with nations
We've gone from a gold standard for all citizens to a gold standard only for the elites. You need to think about that a little more.
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I don't know anything about gold/silver/etc, when I considered saving my money in the form of gold instead of numbers on a screen, I realized I'd just lose over half of my money due to taxes.

Is that true? How does it work? Do you not have to pay any taxes when trading metals? There's no other way it would make sense to ever buy them.
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>picture
Nobody denied that gold is a refuge and stable investment which value only increases because of inflation. The issue was how it could be used outside of paper (or coin) money since you argued for a complete replacement. I explained why it's not possible. You need a far more granular payment method for everyday expenses and gold is simply not fit for this, nor any other precious resource.
>What am I pulling out of my hat when this is happening right now. 
Okay, I see how you interpreted those words. What I mean is that the slanted case against paper money was forced, as if paper money or any printed bond-like resource could not be used for good. So I accused you of going all myopic on paper.
>The money in your bank is not real.
Which one? The data called money? It's another step removed from gems, for sure, but we give value to all sorts of things because it stems from an agreement between parties. It's a bit like the added value. But the real issue with electronic money is how an electronic crash, a very strong virus, or a press of a button could erase it all in theory (being generous here with the apocalyptic ideas). The worse part being the surveillance and traced exchanges.
Solid money with no nominative tag is certainly far more anonymous.
This said, have you tried Monero?
>Jews at the central bank print it out of thin air and give it to themselves. 
Yes, so what? I told you already, bad hands. It's a reckless use of the printing process. They don't care because they can deflate and inflate as long as they own the politicians, the banks and all regulatory authorities. They could write off the debts tomorrow if they wished to in order to bring back some kind of prosperity, which I really believe that's what they will try to sell along the transition to an all electronic money.
>NO. Why can't you print an existing currency like US dollars? Why can't you just go into your basement and print yourself $1,000,000 and then buy a yacht?
Please, don't give me a "but the Jews do it" because that's simply not the point. To answer your question, you'd be merely creating inflation, albeit very little of it. Totally negligible. Now get a million people doing it and it definitely becomes an issue.
>So why is it fraud when I print dollars in my basement but not fraud when jews print dollars in a central bank?
As expected.
>Paper money still has nothing to do with that. 
It has since a German government working for the people after wrestling the control of money out of Jewish hands (and kicking that spyish Strasser fag) managed to get things right with no gold to work from.
I mean just get yourself acquainted with National Socialist economics at least.
>Money needs to be hard to create so people will spend effort creating value for each other instead of creating more money. 
Being strongly regulated by the state precisely makes it hard to produce for anyone else.
But the importance is not so much how hard it is to produce but how much is made available and to whom. We never had more money created than today yet we haven't seen our salaries align with this since 71 in most Western countries. The two pronged methods used by the Jews was that of a constant devaluation of the dollar and, just as importantly, a hoarding of more than the newly created surplus. The constant devaluation forced other countries to align to the US dollar otherwise they'd hurt their own commercial abilities.
>Do you think a gold standard means buying bread with literal gold coins?
Are you doing this on purpose? You're the one who insisted ditching paper money. A gold standard means you still use fiat money but in theory it's redeemable in gold. Have you tried looking at the value of a 1 oz bullion and then dividing its mass by said value, just to see how heavy and big a single $1 nugget of gold would be? Do you really think this would be practical to use as money, especially when considering how malleable gold is?
>All countries have gold.
NS Germany didn't. It's basic Third Reich knowledge mate.
Look, this thread will keep going on and on because you're simply not educated on the question.
>tl;dr Hitler scammed his own people 
OK fuck you.
Just screenshotting this garbage of a post for posterity. Reported too.
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>>9951
>value only increases because of inflation
Inflation doesn't make the value of anything increase. It is the value of paper money that decreases.

>The issue was how it could be used outside of paper (or coin) money
Do you not understand that gold was money for 1000s of years before jews created the federal reserve in 1913.

>the slanted case against paper money was forced
The western economy has gone to shit since the west abandoned the gold standard. That's just historical fact.

>It's another step removed from gems, for sure, but we give value to all sorts of things because it stems from an agreement between parties
You still don't get it. It costs nothing for banks to create more dollars/euros/yen. More money means less value. If money was backed by gems then they would have to do real labor to dig more gems out of the ground to devalue the money.

>Yes, so what? 
That's why you are poor. That's why it doesn't matter how hard you work or how much you save the price of everything keeps going up. Paper money is a scam.

>I told you already, bad hands.
There is no such thing as "good" hands. Paper money only exists to steal from the people. There is no way to print money without making everybody else poorer.

>To answer your question, you'd be merely creating inflation, albeit very little of it. Totally negligible.
Why should I work 40 hours a week when my neighbor can just print $1,000,000 in his basement and spend it?

>It has since a German government working for the people
If you are working for the people then just raise taxes. You don't need to fuck around with the currency.

>I mean just get yourself acquainted with National Socialist economics at least.
<It's easy to prop up a fake economy for a short amount of time with fiat money. That's what the US did in the roaring 20s. Fiat money is the economic equivalent of energy drinks. You get a boost now and then a crash later. If you try to drink another energy drink before the crash your economy becomes a rollercoaster of endless booms and busts i.e. the US economy for the last 50 years. The fact that NS Germany didn't survive long enough to suffer their first crash doesn't disprove what happened to every other nation and empire that adopted unbacked paper money.

>Being strongly regulated by the state precisely makes it hard to produce for anyone else.
Then people will fight to become a government bureaucrat so they can enrich themselves. The state doesn't solve basic human greed.
>inb4 only jews are greedy once they are gone then my people will only do good things

>A gold standard means you still use fiat money but in theory it's redeemable in gold.
No not in theory. Paper can be a token that is redeemable for gold but gold is the money. Fiat means the paper is redeemable for nothing, the paper is the money. When paper is the money you are a slave of whoever controls the printer.

>NS Germany didn't. It's basic Third Reich knowledge mate.
Wrong. How did they pay for their military rearmament in the 1930s? What were they transferring to Swiss banks in the 1940s? They also lied about their gold reserves to hide the fact that they were rearming.

>Look, this thread will keep going on and on because you're simply not educated on the question.
Tell me what economics books you got all your knowledge from. What should I read to "educate" myself?

>OK fuck you.
Did you not know that? It's basic Third Reich knowledge mate. KdF-Wagen Sparkarte.

>Reported too.
lol cuck
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>>10017
>Do you not understand that gold was money for 1000s of years before jews created the federal reserve in 1913.
Stop. Stop before it gets sillier.
First of all I must preface this with the assurance that I'm aware this is an enormous undertaking that would take a lot of manpower, logistics and of course money. Feel free to ask questions and poke holes into this theoretical exercise otherwise. 

What I envision is a closed circle economic arrangement. Let's start with Albert, the proud owner of a pig farm. Albert is also a member of a White resistance organization. He sells to all comers, but the lion's share of his product goes to Bob, the owner of a meat packing and distribution business. Bob is also a member of the same organization. He also sells his product to any who will buy, but likewise the greater portion of his wares are sold to Carl, the owner of a butcher's shop and also another member. None of these men advertise their organization membership, they don't even espouse any political affiliation in public, as far as anyone knows they're unremarkable everyday men. They're not overtly affiliated with one another either, as far as anyone is concerned Bob only knows Carl and Albert as casual business associates of his. And of course, any other organization members in the area will buy their meat from Carl if it's feasible and will not attract suspicion.

The idea is that, save for taxes and other avoidable expenses (but I'm sure someone more versed in finances than I can square that circle), most of the money circulating throughout will remain within the organization's coffers. Money comes in but for the most part doesn't get out. Whatever isn't needed to run each link in the chain gets set aside to fill the organization's war chest, but nobody calls it "dues" nor is it written or spoken out loud anywhere. As far as anyone knows, each business owner is simply saving up. This gives the organizations' various business fronts an advantage over other businesses as the latter are busy competing against each other while the organization-affiliated ones thrive on mutual cooperation. Additionally, besides contributing to the organization's funds the member businesses are better equipped to withstand financial hardships that other business owners who only have their own bottom line in mind. 

One issue I can see cropping up is that the arrangement would pose risks to opsec. It doesn't matter, I worry, that most of the participants don't know each other in detail, all it takes is one link in the chain being picked up by the authorities risking a chance they'll blab about being in the arrangement with another business, and from there for the authorities to pull the thread until the entire weave is unmade. Another problem is that none of us can ask for "a small loan of one million dollars" from a family member nor are we backed by international business interests, so we'll have to start really small and growth will be a pain in the ass, on top of the aforementioned issues with the necessary manpower and whatnot. Again, though, if you find other issues or have some suggestions to improve the arrangement, your feedback is very welcome.
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>>10117
Many White business men working together could dominate their market. If they loaned each other money at crucial times with the assurance not that they will get huge amounts of interest, but that the favor will be returned someday, they would be an unstoppable force. 

Also, what of it is opsec isn't 100%? What are they doing that is illegal? Nothing.
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>>10124
Setting aside that pigs will take any excuse to bully, harass, frame and brutalize innocent people (and I don't mean niggers; see Daniel Shaver and Nicole Harper, among many others) the problem is that these men would be part of a chain. If, in the example above, Bob gets picked up for "intolerant behavior", "suspected white terrorist sympathies" or whatever other bogus charge they can hit him with, he will be interrogated. If he's interrogated there's a chance he will blab about his organization membership, and even if he doesn't name names there's also a chance he'll put Albert and Carl in jeopardy, among others. This could be prevented or mitigated by not making each link in the chain know about the others, but then there's the problem that they'll just be average businessmen working alone.
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>>10125
>Bob gets picked up for "intolerant behavior", "suspected white terrorist sympathies"
Ah, if there was an active insurgency, then yes, they would be in danger by being in such an organization. Or really, they would be in danger by being born White. All White people would come under heavy suspicion in such an event and there would be no legal protections. Not even against torture.
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>>10130
That's exactly what I worry about. Even today it's all too easy to get fucked over simply for not kowtowing to the globohomo creed hard enough, see: the bakers who refused to bake the faggot cake. Or if you don't have a token nigger employee (who will not do any work lest he sue you for discrimination and creating a hostile work environment), or pandering to trannies or what have you. I'm not a legal eagle so I'm not sure how to push back against that filth without getting legally shafted, so advice would be welcome. But yes, the biggest risk is that the authorities might take not being enough of a good goy as a sign of dissidence and take the prospective businessman in for questioning. Not sure how to create a protective buffer against that either, besides simply having a good reputation in the local community.
>>5302
>commies are the ones that want copyrights and patents
>not capitalists
Owning property is owning proptery. Commies want to ban owning property. 
>>5300
You're twisting the point of what I said. Stealing digital data is fine becaue it is a seperate economy from the real one the digital economy is however the kike argument for why it harms the fake economy, and it does, is why selling things harms the real economy, of which OP knows, but the point is that 'this is kikeshit'. If the data is old obviously nobody should care about it being copied. 
>>5303
Even if not nobody is ever going to use them. I feel the same way. 
>>5516
It is falling but slowly and would have already fallen if everyone were a spiritual kike like OP and his many normalfaggots kike friends. For example: the USA's standard of living was best in literally 1968. Do normalfags notice this? No. They are too busy chasing money rather than an ethic.
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>>10125
If you live in a country wherein you can be arrested and harassed for having White sympathies, running a business is the least of your worries and you won't get anywhere until you have your own para-military ready to shower cops with lead when necessary.
>>10135
>selling things harms the real economy
That's a good thing.
>this is kikeshit'
You haven't articulated why not throwing things away is jewish.
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Counterfeiting should be a key part of any insurgency's long-term strategy. Not just for the sake of resource procurement, bribery and other practical applications of forged money, but because few things destroy the legitimacy of a government as nuking its currency to the point nobody can buy anything without spending fortunes. Remember the abject poverty and inflation that characterized the Weimar years. Remember it was that environment that allowed Adolf Hitler to seize power. Why not accelerate the inevitable and nuke this fake kike economy ahead of schedule?
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>>10140
>acting like a kike and creating nothing and stealing profit is a good thing
You put words in my metaphorical mouth about the throw away shit thing also. I never virtue signalled that planned obsolescence is a good thing. That's kikeshit too, obviously. You took the thing about copyrights/patents wrong, I meant that it's good to steal data and wrong to steal actual real items in the real economy. Stop being a kike and twisting words around to try to defend your reselling kike behavior as though attacking the economy is a good thing when that's what kikes did in the past with such behavior. This kinda malarky you're doing is further proof that Hilter and the Nazis did not want to do away with Jews but to in fact replace them. My original point read "for example" but did not actually imply that the example was truly wrong as it's a fake economy after all. But why would anyone throw something away for you to resell to begin with? Resellers don't rebuy what was thrown away, they resell things for an even higher price after buying it new. They price gouge. Price gouging is kikeshit and that is how resellers make money. Example: Buying cellphones on aliexpress and marking up the price to resell it on amazon. This should be illegal though I do not give an actual shit about the digital economy because a library is as it does. Even when it's bought used they still mark up the price of course, that's also kikeshit. Why buy it if you're just going to resell it? It's aboslutely kiked and it's literal theft. Pretty sure Hitler hated the theiving Gypsies, but then again clearly not as they just wanted to le replace them :^)

>>10144
Antifa is what allowed Hitler to seize power due to his rise being a backlash  to that revolution that the commies were trying in Germany as the Germans being allergic to equality is clearly an apt description of the condition of being a Fascist. Now ask me if jews believe in equality just because they pretended to believe in communism when they invented it.
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>>10145
>your reselling kike behavior as though attacking the economy is a good thing
So your problem is not that I am taking items that would go into a land fill and selling them back to people. Your problem is that I am harming the economy by taking away profit that would normally go to jews in giant corporations.

Simply put, I think you're unreasonable and stupid and, frankly, kind of jewish. Why would a non-jew have a problem with me taking a tiny amount of profit away from jews? Makes no sense.

> why would anyone throw something away for you to resell to begin with?
Because they're boomers.
>Resellers don't rebuy what was thrown away, they resell things for an even higher price after buying it new
New is not exactly accurate. I buy from yardsales, estate sales, or from batches of consumer goods that got overstocked and are worthless. Normally, this stuff would go into a landfill so that the consumers can buy new from Moshie Sheckleberg's store-mall and David Finklestein's shopping.com.
I allow a few smart people to buy the same items for less than they would pay a jew for.
And you think that's bad why again?

>They price gouge
You're extremely lost. I literally cannot price gouge because the jewish corporations I am competing against are already dominate the market. I can only make a profit by selling for LESS than them. 
If I tried to price gouge, no one would buy from me.

>Buying cellphones on aliexpress and marking up the price to resell it on amazon
Let's say that I did buy cellphones from a chinese company to sell on Amazon. This is literally what EVERY major corporation in America does. Why would that be wrong? 
>because you're charging more than what you paid for!
Dude... if I sold for the same as what it cost me to buy the cellphones, I would not be running a business, I'd be running a charity. In fact, I'd be losing money because I'd have to pay for shipping cost too.

>Why buy it if you're just going to resell it? It's aboslutely kiked and it's literal theft
Dude... what the fuck? Do you think Walmart makes everything they sell? No, they buy it from a Chinese company and then RESELL it at a marked up price so they can profit.
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hey hey guys look. I don't really care what you're talking about matter of fact. This entire thread has to go. There's not gonna be a revolution. shitler is a cuck who did the world a favor by offing himself and there's nothing you guys can do about it. 

Now I'm going to relay this information to "normalfags" so they can see what you idiots are up to. shit even fbi needs to get in here and clean this place up
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Back to an earlier point, how would one go about setting up the arrangement in >>10117 while keeping opsec so even if one link in the chain is taken away and interrogated by the authorities the rest of the chain isn't affected?
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>>10149
Landfills should not exist. Boomers were a mistake and walmarts/etc were a mistake. You just want to copy and take advantage of mistakes rather than change anything. Landfills and corporations are the big gay and you just want to be a little gay but gay is still gay. Yardsales should be illegal what if they are selling illegal things? Very anarchist capitalism, that's libertarian an ideal. 

Without advertising shekels I don't see how any of you resellers make money anyway when overshadowed by the giga-gay, though I guess your point is 'what is less a faggot, me or them' and the answer is them but only because they were more succesful at being kikes (due to nepotism (unless it's some soulless corporation in which case it's money  might be going to nobody but instead a soulless beast/machine)). 

All this bullshit should be illegal and will be illegal once it hits critical mass. Is that the point? Accelerationism? Go be a traveling merchant while chanting destroy destroy destory I guess. Reselling is price gouging and throwing away things is littering and etc it should all be illegal. 

Not that having an ethical job is even possible to begin with now days or I'd be making clocks or shoes or something. Destroy destoy destroy, go ahead and do it I'm just jealous that it's not back breaking work like my own dystopian position in society as a minimum wage worker in retail of whomst used to be a proud neet. 

>>10156
This is lame and your post/thread on /b/ is lame
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>>10187
>Yardsales should be illegal
What is it going to take, honestly? What will it take for the bubble to finally pop for real, for people to finally realize the emperor has no clothes? What will it take for this entire fraudulent economy of empty air and pointless greed to crash and die?
Is crypto trading the key to exit the pointless rat race our economy has become?
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Stakeholder Capitalism
Schwab claims that it benefits us as it "works for progress, people and the planet" and that under this system we all are stakeholders. It is the concentration of management of all world assets into a globalized system of a high class to own the world, pretending that its power is divided into four groups, two of which are named in a voluntarily confusing way: civil society, which does not include direct control by the people; and international community, which solely comprises international organizations that are again totally removed from our control.
The rest is companies and governments, the latter in most Western societies completely made of often dumb but always corrupt and traitorous puppets.
It's nothing less than a neofeudalism from people who have in their acts proved beyond doubt how much they hate us and either want to enslave us or destroy us.
What is well hidden in all of this is how it ties into Jewish teleology. The most obvious way to explain why is to notice their everywhere presence, notice the control they have on governments, medias, companies, finances, NGOs, and see that while all the other nations of this planet are thrown into literal hells made of glass and concrete, the Jews are enjoying an overall rise of their way of life and power worldwide.
>>10453
Crypto has been thrown into the public to test waters and see how people would be receptive to it.
It's not a tool of freedom. Who wrote the original code? Those who did can crush the currencies.
The blockchain is exactly the system Jews want to control all economies and track every single spending you will do with an amount of power that is hardly imaginable as the currency itself contains all the transactions. If they can feed this to an AI with all the original code and dehashing keys, they can literally know everything from a single room. They always leave a bit of leeway for their darkest operations and to allow a small pressure valve for the most dedicated, and this comes in the form of Monero. It is allowed for the same reason they want to have their own darknet access to secret spending. It's never been made for you, it's all for them and we're just let to enjoy it. So don't trust cryptos ffs. Even if we may have to use them, do never trust them.
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>>4901
>no strong reason to believe that the population of Egypt was what we would consider White
every time i make the mistake of showing up here and reading up on past threads/posts i see a bit more anti-white retardation, next someone´s gonna post that PIE were asians or something and show me some paper written by david reich
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>>10494
So how does one escape the wagie life?
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Some easily digestible reading to explain why we're in this situation.
>>10544
Either you go up and welcome the cucking to get a stressful career where you can give orders, have 12 years old baby girls and snort coke; or you go sideways and you engage in illegal activities which, eventually if you strike big, will make you necessary to group 1 (including politicians); or you walk out and seek a place with taxes so low they're almost irrelevant and you live like a medieval peasant for the most part.
Jews and all the degenerates have perverted the entire economy.
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>>10541
1300 is a long span and we know that within proximity of foreigners, even elites would tend to intermingle with people from a different origin. The fact that for the group studied no such racial drifting or mixing was observed is spectacular and speaks well of some kind of isolation, or at least a protection of the biological identity of that group.
But the fact they were mummified tells me they were of the upper class, which doesn't say much about what their neighbors were, nor their racial makeup.
This said, it may explain how over the course of thousands of years, White enclaves got completely submerged or wiped out and why magnificent structures crumbled because of a lack of maintenance as the skills and intelligence needed had simply vanished due to a weakening of the racial pool.
The conclusion of the analysis is rather simple: the populations got negrified. The cause is once again slave trade and bringing in those apes into ape-free areas.
However, I wish the sampling and database were larger and clarify if the archeologists and scientists think to have sampled a large enough portion of the population to include all possible classes.
>>10563
I take learning a trade isn't enough? Not being snippy, I'm genuinely curious (and worried).
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So close, so close, and yet so far.
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>>10571
You can manage in white rural areas, be it in the US, in Hungary or any other place in Europe. Your purpose is to minimize your dependency on the system and your interaction with coloreds and faggots. But in the end you will still pay taxes to a government that hates you. Yes, I know, you wanted to have a sane, healthy and moral normal life, but the greater the sucess, the greater the pozz. Or at best you may get closer to conservatives who depending on your country of operations may range from lowly cucked (unlikely) to very cucked (very likely) and usually Christian, people who may handle theit trade well but who in terms of politics and spirituality are the equivalent of retards. It really is up to you. I guess you could tolerate a minimal amount of non-Whites, the upper range of the spectrum, those coloreds who can actually behave in society but who owe their existence and presence in your country because all of their racial brethren have to be tolerated too. I'm more or less in this later segment but as soon as some radical and serious fascist opportunity presents itself I'll switch ASAP for it and never look back.
>>10574
Yes, there are a lot of resources that go to waste, yet globally we could even say that peace itself could have been secured centuries ago.
The issue remains, the kikes and their minions.
Walk me through this, because I've been a wagie all my life and I know little of management. How come bulk orders are less easily tracked to the buyer, assuming what I've heard is true at all?
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>>10606
Please clarify.
It all boils down to this: if you order something in bulk, is it actually harder it trace the purchase back to you, and how or why?
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>>10630
Good question. Logic would want that authorities don't go for small fish. Bulk means bigger blip on the radar but if your purchase and shipment are done with totally clearnet methods, neither are harder or simpler to follow as it only takes one purchase to go back to the buyer.
If you want to acquire sensitive material, forcing the package to be divided into smaller ones could help, following different trails and minimizing risks of great loss.
If it's a problem for customs it's hard to say as regulations differ a lot between states and countries.
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>>10636
This post is correct. As an additional precaution you should buy everything piecemeal in different places, rather than buying all of what you need in the same store. And obviously, pay with cash always.
It'd also help to buy sensitive materials and similarly sensitive equipment far from home. Say, an hour or two away.
Almost lost my lunch yesterday when I overheard my boomer supervisor talking to a colleague of his. It's incredible to me that the same boomers who constantly shit on young White men for being "lazy and entitled" and "not wanting to work for a living" are the exact same boomers who in the very next breath gloat smugly about how now they can replace their employees with AI and save themselves a lot of money. Bottom line, it doesn't matter how much you hate boomers because you can never hate them enough.
>>10541
>there is no sub-saharan DNA in Egyptian mummies
Okay. Neither is their sub-saharan DNA in Indians. Are they White too?
>Egyptians showed more ancestry with Near Easterners than present day Egyptians
Yeah? Are you claiming that Arabs are White?
Your position makes no sense and you're claiming I am the anti-White one?
In light of the grim panorama I'm seeing in white-collar jobs, I've decided to both practice a trade and open my own business. Any advice?
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>>10715
Good luck.
Get as much information you can on taxes first and work regulations. Depending on what you plan on doing, really collect as much info as possible to know where to work and settle down, especially if you plan on selling physical goods, it may help. Not so much if selling automobile spare parts, which is a good business and would come very handy for us and floats. Go on forums to read about people's experiences first and also try to spot a network to enjoy some help. The Western economy is taking a nose dive right now and US tax money is being channeled into Israel (I'm assuming you're in the US). Otherwise, if Europe, regulations are so crazy over there that you need to really be careful. Don't jump into it like a tard hoping for the best. I'm not saying expect the worst but you get my point. And get a gun, Justin.
Something I've been noticing in recent years where I live, though I'm quite sure it's been going on for much longer than I've noticed, is that taking odd jobs around the neighborhood is no longer an option for most young White people. On top of people rarely opening their doors to a neighbor because they hardly know or trust anyone living around them, they will not agree to inviting anyone in that isn't affiliated with an official business. Why? Because shitskins have been spending years not only pretending to volunteer for odd jobs in order to rob the residents (even the kids do this) but also because they've taken to a new business model where they injure themselves on purpose and sue the homeowner. The kicker is that everyone knows it's shitskins that do these things, but because everyone is either race-blind thanks to decades of cultural brainwashing or afraid of offending shitskins and being skinned alive on social media, they extend that distrust to all young people, with Whites the most affected by this. The end result speaks for itself. Loss of social trust is a very real thing, with very real consequences.
Since making money with crypto is (supposedly) so time-consuming, could there be a way to use AI to cut out the workload and make passive income?
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>>11008
Wow I can't believe NOBODY has ever thought about this before!
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