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I don't know. I only look into them if there's a certain mainstreamness and if I feel like it. I.e. Atomwaffen, NSM, blah blah.

I more or less have to ask if some foreign party is zogged or I just find out inevitably.

>>14676 (OP) 
None. If they exist, they are tolerated to exist. Even then, jews have brought the hammer down on public-facing political organizations and no longer tolerate infiltrated normie parties. There's some religious Pagan folk organizations, which are not inherently political, but that's about it.

>>14680
Why do none exist? It was outright illegal to be a communist in Imperial Russia, yet they had the spine to organize anyway. Why is it that we lack the fortitude of communists?

>>14682
They're de facto illegal right now if not outright illegal, with more serious consequences than ever before, all with a population under almost one hundred years of perfected brainwashing and conditioning techniques since the end of World War 2. Where 1 out of 10 men was courageous and redpilled before, we are lucky if 1 out of 1000 is so after 18-26 years of intentional miseducation and propaganda and straight up biological poisoning, from birth. All this in an age where the state can transport enemies to your town and doorstep in a matter of days, along with cutting off your ability to work, eat, or have a roof over your head without a shot fired. This is the type of power that totalitarian states only could have dreamt about.

People will tolerate terrorist organizations or NAMBLA over an organization that says that the right to live around people who look and think like you is inalienable. That should tell you the level of damage that has been done on the general population since the 19th century days of the Communists. It's a corollary that building such a party or sustaining it in such an environment is infinitely more challenging than the ones the Communists faced.

>>14683
If anything this post is understating it because, on top of all the things anon mentioned, there's the apparatus of surveilance that is more omnipresent than ever. Don't believe me? Go out for a walk around town, you'll see a camera in every corner, and those cameras, chances are, have facial recognition software as do most home security ones. All of the above are owned by the government or security companies that work hand in hand with the government. There's also contact tracing to think about, which Covid served as an excuse to test and refine. What's more, algorithms keep track of which sites which users visits and when and how often. You can count on an entire dossier being assembled of you by digital intelligence in real time.  Every electronic device nowadays is a spy device.

Does this mean it's time to give up and resign to the extinction of our race? No. What it means is that we have to be smarter and more clever and cautious than ever before. The great fault in most natsocs out there is that they're still using obsolete methods, literally using recruitment and political activism tactics from the 50s or 60s. That and the fact they treat our struggle as a political campaign when it is a guerilla war against a hostile, genocidal occupying power that enjoys the full collaboration of national authorities. There's still braindead fucks out there (and making a nuisance of themselves in here) insisting we should go on marches and make videos on Jewtube and podcasts without a hint of irony, and not all of them are feds, grifters or derads. They simply don't grasp the gravity of our situation.

>>14684
>The great fault in most natsocs out there is that they're still using obsolete methods, literally using recruitment and political activism tactics from the 50s or 60s. That and the fact they treat our struggle as a political campaign when it is a guerilla war against a hostile, genocidal occupying power that enjoys the full collaboration of national authorities. There's still braindead fucks out there (and making a nuisance of themselves in here) insisting we should go on marches and make videos on Jewtube and podcasts without a hint of irony, and not all of them are feds, grifters or derads.
Iron March and predecessor / successor forums really did nail it by referring to this as movementarianism. For all the horrid reputation of Siegefags (genuinely awful book, nevermind the author), they were also correct that the time for when movementarianism was feasible, was with GLR in North America and perhaps a decade or so more allowance for more strictly ethnic European countries beyond that. I don't see any way out of it except for accelerationism as an extension of the guerilla war already present, and even this will take some true ingenuity to level the playing field.

Your line about COVID reminds me of an additional supplementation as evidence to both of our arguments: the general population (which were always sheep in history) proved themselves during those years to be outright enemy combatants, compared to neutral disengaged masses led by the noose in the times of the 19th century and early-to-mid 20th century. While it does give one a sort of cassus belli to extract resources from them by any means now, plus a disregard for their lives or safety as collateral damage, it's far more sad and depressing to have the reality proven beyond any doubt.

>>14685
>For all the horrid reputation of Siegefags (genuinely awful book, nevermind the author)
I'm more ambivalent about it, but that's a conversation for another day.

>I don't see any way out of it except for accelerationism as an extension of the guerilla war already present, and even this will take some true ingenuity to level the playing field.
I'm of the opinion any White man who wants to take up the cause should read extensively on modern surveilance systems, not just electronic surveilance but the tactics police and glowniggers use to spot dissenters and potential threats to ZOG, as well as hit the bricks and get acquainted with every camera in their local area. Their locations, their blind spots, their structural weak points, etc. Study and memorize police patrol routes too. Gauge local police response times. The list goes on and on, but you get the picture. I think the first step of any White revolutionary movement should be reconnaisance of their local operation theatre, establishing clandestine resourse and intelligence acquisition networks, and performing sabotage, theft and social engineering while getting ready for the wetwork phase. And of course, recruitment. Not with pamphlets and visible meeting places, but discreetly, one-on-one and only after extensive background checks.

>Your line about COVID reminds me of an additional supplementation as evidence to both of our arguments: the general population (which were always sheep in history) proved themselves during those years to be outright enemy combatants, compared to neutral disengaged masses led by the noose in the times of the 19th century and early-to-mid 20th century.
Sadly true. I became a borderline misanthrope in those dark years, watching NPCs parrot whatever the idiot box said even if it contradicted what had been said the day before and obeying all sorts of cartoonishly stupid and nakedly tyrannical rules just because it was more convenient to obey, dignity and freedom be damned. I remember punching a wall when I read accounts of NPCs getting vaxed for a fucking donut or snitching on their own family members. As you said, it's bleakly depressing but also greatly alleviates any concerns about collateral damage. I won't advocate for knocking over stores or wantonly killing civilians in the name of the cause (unless they're kikes or shitskins of course) but I won't shed any tears if a hundred White NPCs are killed in the process of e.g. carbombing a ZOG building.

Sometimes I wonder if we won't have to enact a large scale culling of our race even after we've achieved victory over ZOG and eliminated the lesser races.

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>>14676 (OP) 
>A fucking "White Australia" Party with a beannigger front and centre and letting a faggot pornstar into the circle is a bridge too far
Gonna have to hear the tea on this one. I know Joel Davis is a sperg but the rest of the boys seem solid
>>14684
We need to focus on metapolitics. If the Old Glory Club can't find an encrypted messaging app not run by Jews then we have bigger problems. Can't even organize without infosec

>>14686
>Sometimes I wonder if we won't have to enact a large scale culling of our race even after we've achieved victory over ZOG and eliminated the lesser races.
We do, but it's so far in the future beyond so many necessary major accomplishments first,  I don't even really think about it. Depending on which faction of ((( elites ))) wins out in the upcoming years, it seems a (un)natural culling of several or many will happen anyways.

>I became a borderline misanthrope in those dark years, watching NPCs parrot whatever the idiot box said even if it contradicted what had been said the day before and obeying all sorts of cartoonishly stupid and nakedly tyrannical rules just because it was more convenient to obey, dignity and freedom be damned. I remember punching a wall when I read accounts of NPCs getting vaxed for a fucking donut or snitching on their own family members.
I lost everything from it. I wonder some days if I shouldn't have just faked a vaxx card. It definitely made me a misanthrope, but not in an edgy adolescent sort of way—I'm good in my own way around people but I'll always have the idea of them as a potentially very dangerous 'other' in 78-87% of cases in the back of my head probably for the rest of my life. God hates a coward, and I do too.

>I won't advocate for knocking over stores or wantonly killing civilians in the name of the cause (unless they're kikes or shitskins of course) but I won't shed any tears if a hundred White NPCs are killed in the process of e.g. carbombing a ZOG building.
Reminds me of Turner Diaries when Pierce matter-of-factly discusses the collateral deaths which are inevitable with some of the tactics used. I didn't really get it before, prior to 2020-2023, even with the world building therein.

>>14688
>We do, but it's so far in the future beyond so many necessary major accomplishments first,  I don't even really think about it. 
I know, I know. It's just an idle thought that comes to me every now and then and flits away as quickly as it came. My real obsession is finding White men worth recruiting without alerting the authorities.

>Reminds me of Turner Diaries when Pierce matter-of-factly discusses the collateral deaths which are inevitable with some of the tactics used. I didn't really get it before, prior to 2020-2023, even with the world building therein.
Yeah, and building up on that there's this part:

>I am sorry, of course, for the millions of White people, both here and in Russia, who died-and who have yet to die before we have finished-in this war to rid ourselves of the Jewish yoke. But innocents? I think not. Certainly, that term should not be applied to the majority of the adults.
>After all, is not man essentially responsible for his condition- at least, in a collective sense? If the White nations of the world had not allowed themselves to become subject to the Jew, to Jewish ideas, to the Jewish spirit, this war would not be necessary. We can hardly consider ourselves blameless. We can hardly say we had no choice, no chance to avoid the Jew's snare. We can hardly say we were not warned.
>Men of wisdom, integrity, and courage have warned us over and over again of the consequences of our folly. And even after we were well down the Jewish primrose path, we had chance after chance to save ourselves-most recently 52 years ago, when the Germans and the Jews were locked in struggle for the mastery of central and eastern Europe.
>We ended up on the Jewish side in that struggle, primarily because we had chosen corrupt men as our leaders. And we had chosen corrupt leaders because we valued the wrong things in life. We had chosen leaders who promised us something for nothing; who pandered to our weaknesses and vices; who had nice stage personalities and pleasant smiles, but who were without character or scruple. We ignored the really important issues in our national life and gave free rein to a criminal System to conduct the affairs of our nation as it saw fit, so long as it kept us moderately well-supplied with bread and circuses.
>And are not folly, willful ignorance, laziness, greed, irresponsibility, and moral timidity as blameworthy as the most deliberate malice? Are not all our sins of omission to be counted against us as heavily as the Jew's sins of commission against him? In the Creator's account book, that is the way things are reckoned. Nature does not accept "good" excuses in lieu of performance. No race which neglects to insure its own survival, when the means for that survival are at hand, can be judged "innocent," nor can the penalty exacted against it be considered unjust, no matter how severe.

Nice digits by the way.

>>14689
Actually, the next several paragraphs are also worth posting.

>Immediately after our success in California this summer, in my dealings with the civilian population there I had it thoroughly impressed on me why the American
people do not deserve to be considered "innocents." Their reaction to the civil strife there was based almost solely on the way it affected their own private
circumstances. For the first day or two-before it dawned on most people that we might actually win-the White civilians, even racially conscious ones, were
generally hostile; we were messing up their life-style and making their customary pursuit of pleasure terribly inconvenient.
>Then, after they learned to fear us, they were all too eager to please us. But they weren't really interested in the rights and wrongs of the struggle; they couldn't be bothered with soul-searching and long-range considerations. Their attitude was: "Just tell us what we're supposed to believe, and we'll believe it." They just wanted to be safe and comfortable again as soon as possible. And they weren't being cynical; they weren't jaded sophisticates, but ordinary people.
>The fact is that the ordinary people are not really much less culpable than the not-so-ordinary people, than the pillars of the System. Take the political police, as
an example. Most of them- the White ones-are not especially evil men. They serve evil masters, but they rationalize what they do; they justify it to themselves, some in patriotic terms ("protecting our free and democratic way of life") and some in religious or ideological terms ("upholding Christian ideals of equality and justice").
>One can call them hypocrites-one can point out that they deliberately avoid thinking about anything which might call into question the validity of the shallow
catch-phrases with which they justify themselves-but is not everyone who has tolerated the System also a hypocrite, whether he actively supported it or not? Is
not everyone who mindlessly parrots the same catch-phrases, refusing to examine their implications and contradictions, whether he uses them as justifications for his deeds or not, also to be blamed?
>I cannot think of any segment of White society, from the Maryland red-necks and their families whose radioactive bodies we bulldozed into a huge pit a few
days ago to the university professors we strung up in Los Angeles last July, which can truly claim that it did not deserve what happened to it. It was not so many
months ago that nearly all those who are wandering homeless and bemoaning their fate today were talking from the other side of their mouths.
>Not a few of our people have been badly roughed up in the past-and two that I know of were killed-when they fell into the hands of red-necks - "good ol' boys"
who, although not liberals or shabbos goyim in any way, had no use for "radicals" who wanted to "overthrow the gummint." In their case it was sheer ignorance.
>But ignorance of that sort is no more excusable than the bleating, sheeplike liberalism of the pseudo-intellectuals who have smugly promoted Jewish ideology
for so many years; or than the selfishness and cowardice of the great American middle class who went along for the ride, complaining only when their pocketbooks suffered.
>No, talk of "innocents" has no meaning. We must look at our situation collectively, in a race-wide sense. We must understand that our race is like a cancer
patient undergoing drastic surgery in order to save his life. There is no sense in asking whether the tissue being cut out now is "innocent" or not. That is no more
reasonable than trying to distinguish the "good" Jews from the bad ones-or, as some of our thicker-skulled "good ol' boys" still insist on trying, separating the "good niggers" from the rest of their race.
>The fact is that we are all responsible, as individuals, for the morals and the behavior of our race as a whole. There is no evading that responsibility, in the long
run, any more for the members of our own race than for those of other races, and each of us individually must be prepared to be called to account for that
responsibility at any time. In these days many are being called.

>>14689
Actually, the next several paragraphs are also worth posting.

>Immediately after our success in California this summer, in my dealings with the civilian population there I had it thoroughly impressed on me why the American people do not deserve to be considered "innocents." Their reaction to the civil strife there was based almost solely on the way it affected their own private circumstances. For the first day or two-before it dawned on most people that we might actually win-the White civilians, even racially conscious ones, were generally hostile; we were messing up their life-style and making their customary
pursuit of pleasure terribly inconvenient.
>Then, after they learned to fear us, they were all too eager to please us. But they weren't really interested in the rights and wrongs of the struggle; they couldn't be bothered with soul-searching and long-range considerations. Their attitude was: "Just tell us what we're supposed to believe, and we'll believe it." They just wanted to be safe and comfortable again as soon as possible. And they weren't being cynical; they weren't jaded sophisticates, but ordinary people.
>The fact is that the ordinary people are not really much less culpable than the not-so-ordinary people, than the pillars of the System. Take the political police, as an example. Most of them- the White ones-are not especially evil men. They serve evil masters, but they rationalize what they do; they justify it to themselves, some in patriotic terms ("protecting our free and democratic way of life") and some in religious or ideological terms ("upholding Christian ideals of equality and justice").
>One can call them hypocrites-one can point out that they deliberately avoid thinking about anything which might call into question the validity of the shallow catch-phrases with which they justify themselves-but is not everyone who has tolerated the System also a hypocrite, whether he actively supported it or not? Is not everyone who mindlessly parrots the same catch-phrases, refusing to examine their implications and contradictions, whether he uses them as justifications for his deeds or not, also to be blamed?
>I cannot think of any segment of White society, from the Maryland red-necks and their families whose radioactive bodies we bulldozed into a huge pit a few days ago to the university professors we strung up in Los Angeles last July, which can truly claim that it did not deserve what happened to it. It was not so many months ago that nearly all those who are wandering homeless and bemoaning their fate today were talking from the other side of their mouths.
>Not a few of our people have been badly roughed up in the past-and two that I know of were killed-when they fell into the hands of red-necks - "good ol' boys" who, although not liberals or shabbos goyim in any way, had no use for "radicals" who wanted to "overthrow the gummint." In their case it was sheer ignorance.
>But ignorance of that sort is no more excusable than the bleating, sheeplike liberalism of the pseudo-intellectuals who have smugly promoted Jewish ideology for so many years; or than the selfishness and cowardice of the great American middle class who went along for the ride, complaining only when their pocketbooks suffered.
>No, talk of "innocents" has no meaning. We must look at our situation collectively, in a race-wide sense. We must understand that our race is like a cancer patient undergoing drastic surgery in order to save his life. There is no sense in asking whether the tissue being cut out now is "innocent" or not. That is no more reasonable than trying to distinguish the "good" Jews from the bad ones-or, as some of our thicker-skulled "good ol' boys" still insist on trying, separating the "good niggers" from the rest of their race.
>The fact is that we are all responsible, as individuals, for the morals and the behavior of our race as a whole. There is no evading that responsibility, in the long run, any more for the members of our own race than for those of other races, and each of us individually must be prepared to be called to account for that responsibility at any time. In these days many are being called.

>>14689
>>14690
What did The Good Captain say long ago?
>A country has the Jews it deserves. Just as mosquitoes can thrive and settle only in swamps, likewise the former can only thrive in the swamps of our sins.

Still, I don't like this thinking too much on the whole, as it veers too closely to victim blaming. The original jews are all but extinct, brutally put down by the Romans, yet their spiritual descendants gleefully pursue the same means which will lead to the same ends.

Excellent paragraphs, by the way. That was precisely what I was imprecisely recalling from memory.

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>>14692
>A country has the Jews it deserves. Just as mosquitoes can thrive and settle only in swamps, likewise the former can only thrive in the swamps of our sins.
Reminds me of the phrase "you deserve the rights you're willing to fight for". As another wise man said, modern man is unwilling to fight for anything except his right to endless debauchery. 

>Still, I don't like this thinking too much on the whole, as it veers too closely to victim blaming. 
There comes a point when a person stops being a victim and becomes an accomplice. If a smoker ends up bedridden and breathing through a tube yet still begs for a ciggy in his deathbed, is he not responsible for what happened to his body? If a couple decide to vax their child even after having all the evidence of rigged trials, horrible side effects and even deaths, and the child dies, all because they didn't want to have to pull Junior out of school and educate him at home, are they not guilty of manslaughter? If drugs have ravaged a community and the dealers have been around long enough that everyone knows their names, their safehouses, the location of their labs and stashes, and instead of lynching the vermin and firebombing their labs and hideouts, they lower their heads, refuse to testify against them, even as their own children lie dead on the street from an overdose, does the community itself, as a collective, not qualify as an accomplice through their inaction and selfish cowardice?

Point is, I'm tired of the excuses. The only victims, the only innocents, are the children who have to grow up in this horrible hell of a world. The adults made a conscious choice. They saw the abject evil staring them in the face, and chose to look the other way, refused to act. No more excuses. The penance a great many Whites will have to endure for their part in aiding and abetting the intolerable state to which our world and societies have been driven to will be severe indeed. There is only one path to redemption and it will not be found in prayers, in parroting mealy-mouthed platitudes about how "there's nothing I could do" or "I didn't know." It will be found in action. If a man joins the cause, joins our ranks, and takes the fight to our racial enemies, that man has redeemed himself. Anyone else? They made their bed, let them die in it. Come the final defeat of ZOG, we're going to remember who joined our struggle when we were at our weakest despite the danger, who played dumb and kept on worrying only about their own pocket, and who snitched on us and aided the zogbots against their own race.

Another Pierce quote:
>How should an honorable man confront evil?
>Should he ignore it, with the excuse that it is not his responsibility?
>Should he ally himself with the evil, because that’s where the “smart money” is?
>Or should he take up arms against it and fight it with all his strength and without regard for the
personal consequences, even though he must fight alone?

>>14682
>yet they had the spine to organize anyway
And ask yourself following
Did they in 1900s have cctv?
Did they in 1900s had digitalization?
Did in 1900s had the police personell as we have in present both in quantity and quality?
Did they had in 1900s 24/7 area cover for immiedate response?

No they didnt

Honestly the fact that they don't exist and can no longer exist due to ZOG thuggery and ever-present surveillance is the reason I am doompilled. I don't think it's possible to do decentralized resistance. It has basically never happened and it will only become more impossible as the US and Europe turn into a gay nigger version of the Chinese surveillance state.

>>14697
Complex systems do not survive the absence of European and Far East Asian genetics. Gay jewish niggers cannot build nor maintain infrastructure. As we dwindle, so does the opportunity to strike as things decay.

>>14698
I do not see the timeline working out for such a thing. In order for it to completely collapse into chaos one would need to see every country be something like 90% goblin, especially because technology will offset the competency crisis to larger and larger degrees.
By the time we reach a superminority White in literally every country on earth, any collapse will see Whites overrun with violence. It will be Camp of the Saints. It's not a survivable scenario.

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>>14699
If it's all oh-so-pointless and we're oh-so-irrevocably doomed, hwy are you here then? Kike.

>>14700
I may have given up, but I'm always interested to hear counter arguments. So far I either get cope (e.g. claiming we'll have postmortem revenge) or name-calling.