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In which we discuss important topics like:
>will Gquuux beat out Witch for worst Gundam of all time or buck the trend and end up being good
>which anime is the best and why is it G Gundam
>why The Origin's mere existence justifies a colony drop
>how the hell did Tomino get away with Ple 😭
>why the Big Zam should have been mass-produced

Note for the UC geeks: an anon is translating Gundam Senki over at smug/tg/ and has discovered an absolute treasure trove of background material. Ever wanted to know how Char could have ganked Amuro at Side 7 or why Zeon keeps popping up like fucking dandelions decades after the OYW ended? Now you can!
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Name the cast
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>>110
Kazuki Kitamura as Gym Gingham
everyone else doesn't matter
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puru puru puru puru puru puru!
Watched the original trilogy and Char's Counterattack not too long ago.
Are the other gundam titles as good?
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>>173
I liked the other Tomino gundams but some of them are a vastly different experience. Turn A is unique in its conflict and G no Reconguista's story is hard to follow. Victory is the closest to the original trilogy. F91 was nice to watch but is just a single movie in its corner(assuming you don't read the manga of that UC era)
Gundam 0080 war in the pocket is arguably the best non-Tomino gundam.
>>173
Good is relative but some are definitely better than others. Victory is the sequel to CCA/F91, but it was made at a time when Bandai had just bought the series and was pushing to make it more toyetic and Tomino's team simply ran out of fucks to give. It's got some great shitposts and one of the angriest protags in UC, but it's barely touched on these days for a reason. Also don't watch Unicorn it's bad.

Outside of the UC I can personally recommend G for being a wild ride, but it's wuxia Gundam. Turn A is supposed to be good, not sure why it's only remembered for having a Gundam with a mustache and a brown twink who's forced to crossdress at one point for a protagonist. Wing isn't terrible but it turns into an endless soap opera halfway through, I feel like it pretty much coasts on Toonami nostalgia. Witch is the worst Gundam, avoid it.
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I like the new Gundam but I can understand why people hate the modern stuff in it. You could argue about modern tech by saying a Zeon-win timeline sped up the technological progress but the modern culture stuff would be hard to cope using that logic especially since it's UC0085 and Zeta/Double Zeta were 80s culturally.
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>will Gquuux beat out Witch for worst Gundam of all time or buck the trend and end up being good
Gquux could be seventeen hours of a guy giving bland Gunpla reveals while audbily shitting, and I would still like it over Witch From Mercury.
Gquux could have Tomino himself come out of the screen, slap me upside the head, and call me a stupid faggot for even bothering, and I would still like it over Witch From Mercury.
Gquuux could be Gundam Seed Destiny in slightly higher quality, and I would still like it over Witch From Mercury.
It would take a new series somehow literally blowing up my house and killing my loved ones to hate it more than G-Witch. Witch has done irreparable damage to mecha as a whole, made me regret every time I beat off to lesbian hentai, and to this day I wonder if Elliot Rodger had a point. I'd be glad that nigger cattle are coming down from beating off to WFM and are now finally fucking realizing that the show was complete sludge that people only liked because muhdik, but at this point, I view Witch apologists as beyond redemption. They infested the franchise, they can have the rotting corpse it is. God I hate G-Witch.
>which anime is the best and why is it G Gundam
You're right. You're absolutely right. But you misspelled Zeta Gundam.
>>202
What's wrong with Unicorn?
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>>704
Unicorn just don't fit in UC, it retcon so much stuff. Also while Zeta is very good, Double Zeta is double gooder and thus is the goodest Gundam.
G-witch is pretty trash, it could have been good but they wasted all their potential. They turned the anime into some shitty school battle with mecha and only remembered at the end that this isn't Gundam. Also the romance shit in it fucking suck and act as a light for all the mentally ill shipfag mosquitoes buzzing around; Tomino made awfully realistic female characters and that's why it was good even if it was horrible to be around those females.
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>>704
>Witch has done irreparable damage to mecha as a whole
Mecha has been dying for decades. Before you bring up Bravern, I'm pretty sure it would have been finalized as gay robot porn well before they could crib anything from G-Bitch. Superbia > everyone btw
>>706
>Unicorn just don't fit in UC, it retcon so much stuff. Also while Zeta is very good, Double Zeta is double gooder and thus is the goodest Gundam.
I haven't actually watched Unicorn but from what I know it essentially copypasted a good chunk of The Origin's bad ideas into UC canon. ZZ is too messy for me and the main robot too toyetic for me to call it better than Zeta, though it is good in its own right.
>Tomino made awfully realistic female characters
Haman wasn't realistic, she was actually competent.
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>>709
Haman was too good, I could have fixed her... I meant for awful girls the ones like Recoa who just switch side because the guy's she into won't give her enough attention(basically almost all the girls in Xabungle) and Katejina from Victory is the very similar, Emma Sheen too in a way but she had an actual reason to switch side at first. Most characters in CCA weren't right in the head but Nanai had to compete with some indian space ghost cunny and actual new newtype cunny rival for Char's attention and you can clearly see the sexual tension with her.
Also at the end of the day, Haman after failing to get Char's cock went after Judeau's cock who was half her age. Let's not even go into all the cyber-newtypes and actual schizo like Chara Soon or the Moon Moon girls.
Tomino's girl weren't really waifu-baits nor shipfag baits.

I will admit that my preference for ZZ is mostly driven by Zeon, Haman and the main cast of kid is better than in Zeta for me. Not even Char or Bright could beat Won, but Judeau turned him into a bitch, that's what a real alpha child soldier look like.
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I liked the latest ep. Seeing old characters like the black tri-star and seeing the 'what happened to them' was nice. Remind me of Yazan in ZZ but not as bad. Their jet stream attack is such a classic move that get referenced in a lot of anime, I liked how they just countered it with a similar move but with extra retardation added.
Had a bit of Kamiyu autism  with Machu attacking a policeman, if it was written by Tomino she would have been most likely be beaten just a tiny bit for good measure. That being said, I felt the Tomino influence in how Machu took Nyaa piloting with Shu as NTR. Will she switch side to get Shu's attention only to come back and then being beaten up just like in Xabungle? Time will tell us.
Unmasked Kycilia was in the preview, she should be in her 30s but look older than that. I guess Zeon people have higher testosterone than side 6 people but that also apply to females. It looked like she was flying incognito as a civilian which remind me of Haman. Sadly she doesn't have the same sex appeal or schizophrenic appeal at Haman.
Bask about to repeat what happened to HK in Zeta but inside a colony now. Anyone wanna bet if he will drop it on the moon again?
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>>781
Thanks anon, the FBB of the Universal Century being mentioned reminded me to catch up. Just finished ep 4 and I'm a little disappointed the witch died without having her true identity revealed. For all the world she looked like Mirai living under an assumed name but they went nowhere with it. Using famous people in weird ways is alternate history 101 so not doing it here feels like dropping the ball.
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>>838
I also thought she was Mirai because she had the same weak presence and similar eyes but the hair color isn't the same. Also it would mean her dead fiance wouldn't be that cuck on side6 since we saw him, so it could have been Sleggar or Bright. In my opinion, she could very well literally be Mirai with modernized design and a fake identity or someone made on purpose to give Mirai vibes as a pseudo-cameo because it's there is too much in common to be a coincidence. It will depend on the side6 cuck if we see him with his wife or if he mention his past fiance otherwise I lean toward that she's Mirai in my headcannon until proven wrong.
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>>842
It leads one to wonder though: where's the White Base crew in this timeline? Anyone who was already in the military probably died, either at Side 7 or during the war, but that still leaves a lot of historically important people like Kai who either never "made it" or went in a completely different direction because the thread of prophecy was severed. Amuro is practically guaranteed to show up at some point but it would be funny if Tem somehow avoided getting spaced and was working for Anaheim.
Holy shit this episode was pretty fucking good. I didn't expect the Titan niggers dying so quickly but I actually prefer it that way. Shit was hype when the zeta bgm playing during the psycho gundam reveal. Psycho and Braw Bro are slightly different from the original timeline. I wonder if Sharia Bvll is in the garma faction, a secret Char/Zeon Deikum restorationist/newtype supremacy faction or just his own shit.
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>>851
I agree, though it was a little too Evangelion for my taste. Two things: that was a Kikeroga, not a Braw Bro (though the wired bits were a surprise to me, you'd think they would have wireless psycommu by now) and wouldn't Garma have eaten shit by now with Char being given a free hand?
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Literally me
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>>861
I would report for underage but nobody cares anymore.
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This episode (8th) had an Ideon reference in it. Also since Char survived the zeknova, doesn't that mean Amuro and Char might have survived in CCA?
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>>862
The day you find something worthwhile to do with your time is the day you'll finally overcome your spite and self-hatred.
>>894
>Ideon reference
If there was ever any doubt Anno had a major hand in this that should disabuse you.
>spoiler
Alternate continuity. Assuming you take Unicorn as canon, Char is dead and a fragment of his soul wound up possessing Full Frontal. Otherwise it's a deliberate mystery but extended canon from the 2000s implies they both went to a higher plane of existence, which doesn't actually contradict Unicorn either.
>898
Why would I hate myself? I'm not underage.
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This week's episode has feet. The twist was a disappointment, but I guess Bandai thinks everything has to tie into 0079 somehow or else the UCniggers won't buy the merch for it. Calling it now, this series is the result of Char's Force Newtype ghost trying to fix things after CCA and accidentally a new timeline instead. That's what "I can see time" retroactively means now, Newtype souls can literally transcend time.
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>>953
The alt-timeline/dimension being an actual canon thing and not just a what-if feel like one big mistake. Also feel isekai'd Lalah will cuck brothel Lalah so she's gonna wait for Char for nothing. Also Lalah is a slut, she said she love both Char and Amuro; I remember in 0079 she said to Amuro that nobody love him so she's one crazy bitch as expected from the master himself Tomino-sama.
If Lalah can get isekai, the CCAfags will also come and maybe Haman and Sirocco will come. Spooky shit and what about late UC newtype bullshit? Shakti, another curry bitch, was almost about to kill all of humanity with her newtype power. If she's in this timeline, nothing good can happen and this is why the timeline travel bullshit suck because why can Lalah do it but not everyone else?
>I can see time
I'm also remembering the "history repeat itself" quote, brothel Lalah said that in all of her dreams Char dies from Amuro.
Is there lesbian shit this time too?
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>>956
No, it's 100% pure heterosexual stuff just like Tomino would have wanted it.
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>>957
The stigma that lesbian gundam left will take more years to erase
God this episode alone outdo anything that hasn't by done by Tomino, especially that shitty mercury witch anime.
>>956
Nope, the OP and ED made me fear the worst but there's been no hint of yuribaiting so far and a pretty low chance of it happening in the last few episodes.
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Holy fucking shit
I hit my desk hard when BEYOND THE TIME started playing, took me off-guard but I had hope the CCA fuckers would get isekai'd so I actually wanted to hear that song. But to see the white devil himself was such a kino moment, his MS doesn't look modernized despite how it looked in those flashback episodes.
Also that moment when Char basically did a sailor moon transformation into his 79 outfit. Pure undiluted zeonic kino. He also had his CCA hairs at some point too.
Kycillia is such a bad bitch, she's remind me of a less romantic, less sexy and more jewish Haman.

Huge spoiler here: I almost didn't catch it because the song started playing but this timeline, this world, this universe, it's all created by Lalah. I hope they won't pull a "she was just dreaming in a coma" bullshit, I'd prefer going on with the route of a pajeet child prositute turned god. Even if it's a made-up world doesn't mean the people in it aren't real, just like in that French game expedition33. Also she was always underwater even before the one year war, could she has been there since the beginning of time? Some hidden god lying around, that remind me of Ideon. Considering Anno is a huge Tomino fanboy and Ideon was a massive inspiration for Evangelion I wouldn't be surprised.
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>>983
Who the hell is piloting that thing?
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The final episode told us that Ramba Ral is the true winner among the Gundam males. Won't say more.

>>992
turn out it was just Shuji
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>>1007
It was indeed lulzy and the Gundam Good Ending we never knew we needed, but as is typical with Anno there is so much that makes no goddamn sense if you think about it for even a second:
>If the RX-78 was from the "other side" (the AU where Char dies) why did it turn into bootleg Ideon?
>When the fuck did we learn Challia was working for Artesia/Sayla the whole time?
>Where did Shuji originally come from? Where the fuck is he? If he's in the post-apocalyptic shithole that is late UC things are going to get interesting real fast if they do a sequel.
>What the fuck is up with the white Haro? It seems to know things and activated the psycommu in the GQuuuuuux by itself but that loose end was never followed up on.
>Who or what was talking to Shuji through the Red Gundam, if not Char or Lalah?
>Where the fuck did the original Lalah go? She says thank you and then vanishes into the Zeknova. Char is back to his disguised form afterward so did she intentionally zero-sum herself Elder Scrolls style so the GQuuuuuux universe could evolve without her influence?
>Who got cucked in the end with Shuji seemingly choosing Machu before vanishing?
Also it seems blindingly obvious to me that the original ending was going to be Shuji's Newtype ghost breaking the loop by delaying Char on the other side, leading to the version of events we saw in 0079, but the ratings for the early episodes were high enough Bandai told him no leading to the clusterfuck we got instead.
tl;dr we were watching Kingdom Hearts Gundam the whole time, discuss.
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>>1024
in order
Probably because Anno and the rest of the staff are huge Tominofags. It was the Gquux that turned into Ideon/Eva with its black hole bullshit and mouth opening. Ideon just screamed and yelled as he sliced planets without the need of a mouth, now that's pure power.
Shariah is just a newtype autist so basically a true Zeon Deikumfag but he know Char is a nice guy who would never betray anyone so Char is obviously not suited for a leadership position. Also Artesia make sense, she got Ramba Ral and maybe other loyalists. She's a fed veteran and a rare femoid in UC that isn't a sicko so there is a chance the fed glowniggers also supported her.
I think he's some fucker that got picked up in a previous universe. With a limitless of alt-universe, there might be one where the feds or zeon made some schizo cyber newtype that met Lalah.
It's Ide himself, the soul of the moonlight butterfly too, perhaps even the true mastermind behind the Zambot3 incident. Haro at this point is a being that transcend timeline, the fucker is also in other gundam universe.
Probably the Gundam itself, it seem the white gundam was possessed by Amuro's spirit or something. He got pulled in because he's the one that keep killing Char. I don't think it's Amuro himself but rather his feelings and memories. Then again, the fucker might be a cyber retard so it could be made up bullshit until it got serious enough to summon Amuro's soul from another timeline.
Probably went back to her universe and had learn to cope with Char being dead on her timeline(I feel the directors saw E33 and it influenced that rushed ending). I doubt the universe creating bullshit will ever be explain, might be some delusion in her mind that became an actual reality using newtype power from newtypes created in her own delusion or maybe she's just traveling through the multiverses while influencing them. One thing is sure, that Lalah is already from an alt-timeline because in the original timeline she dies unless they dare retcon shit by saying something like 'she prefered to die than have Char die' but I doubt anyone would dare do that. So since this Lalah is already from an alt-timeline, I think it's fair to say that there are other naturally occurring alt-timelines. Personally making timelines cannon ruin Turn A Gundam's attempt at unifying the different series' universes, but I want more out of a Zeon victory setting so I'm conflicted. Also at some point there was a lot of colorful kira kira, reminded me of the moonlight butterfly and the 2nd Turn A OP that goes 'century colors, million colors', it only missed Harry(not Char) screaming UNIVERSE and I would have stood and clapped while I yell SASUGA THE MASTER DID IT AGAIN.
Rose of Sharon Lalah got cucked by the in-universe Lalah and Kycillia got cucked because Char only want nubile girls. I forgot the last scene with the girls at the beach, maybe they are going to find the Shuji of their timeline so that would mean not cucked and at that point I think both girls would just be happy being in his harem rather than fight for his dick. Of course, if there isn't any Shuji in that universe, both girls got cucked by Lalah because that's the one he wanted to protect in a platonic way(imagine being platonically cucked, yabai)
I think it's a huge mess and it might be on purpose, they wanted to cram as much references they could. Including Tomino's non-gundam work and Anno's evangelion(then again the studio worked on the rebuild so it might just be their style at this point). Tomino is known for making crazy endings and the same is true with the original evangelion(havent seen the rebuilds). I'm not saying they went for a clusterfuck on purpose, but whatever they did was too hard and they failed on the execution. So we got random fights all over the place then everyone just understand and then happy ending. I hope they reveal that there is a 13th episode and it goes 'special guest: Tomino' and it's just him in live-action burning drives with the masters of this anime and he goes 'it's not an anime, it's the real deal' followed by him killing Amuro and Char's original seiyuu with him throwing T shaped knive all across the studio. Of course this is just a humble dream of mine, we are forced to endure a perfectly happy ending with no death of any main character.

I'd say we were watching expedition 33 Gundam but instead of a familial dispute it's just Char's sexual life fucking up a whole universe across timelines
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